The maverick leftist Brendan O'Neill groans at the latest protests in the U.K.:
Probably the most striking thing about last week's student demo against the Lib-Con government's cuts and tuition fees agenda was not the protest itself – which, like all youth protests, was loud, bracing and had some good points as well as bad ones – but rather the sad-dad effect. It was the way in which university lecturers, teachers, journalists and middle-class parents – the respectable adult world – gave a vigorous nod of approval to the demonstration, fantasising that it was some kind of genetic or educational extension of their own inner youthful radicalism….I remember when it was considered embarrassing if your mum phoned a mate's house to check if you were okay during a sleepover. But to phone the cops to find out, in the words of one demo-approving dad, 'when our children will be home'? That's the death-knell of radicalism right there.
The institutions of adult society effectively gave children permission to be on the demo. Some headteachers made no effort to prevent their pupils from leaving school premises, with the head of Camden School for Girls even hinting that she admired her school's 200 bunking protesters. For some in the teaching and university worlds, it seems, this was less a 1968-style revolution than a kind of educational field trip, an extension of those citizenship classes in which children are taught about the importance of voting and community activism. As one adult observer said, 'many un-enfranchised schoolkids showed virtually no interest in politics', but this demo 'changed everything'. Maybe they'll get that A* now.
What this adult sanctioning and glee over Wednesday's demo really reveals is an adult world that now pushes its children to do its political work for it. Teachers, university workers and journalists, like many others, are concerned about the Lib-Cons' cuts agenda and the future of British society more broadly. But lacking any serious ideas, bereft of an effective language in which to articulate and pursue their concerns, they hide behind groups of children instead, hoping that the young ones' fresh-facedness, their energy, their implacable anger (at least as excitedly talked up by the adult observers), will land a political blow where their own ideas and ideals have failed.
So journalists describe the protest as a 'children's crusade', a combination of innocence and anger, in an attempt to present it, and the specific anti-Lib-Con ideas that they hope are driving it, as beyond question, as an utterly un-ignorable stand against Cameron and Co. After all, who would want to challenge, far less mistreat, 'the Harry Potter generation', with their cute placards saying 'Dumbledore wouldn't stand for this shit'? A group of academics and journalists wrote to a newspaper about the importance of protesting against the government's 'cuts to state support for higher education' – but they presented themselves as 'parents of sixth-form school students concerned at the tactics adopted by the police at the demonstration'. Here, grown-ups are trying to turn kids into ventriloquist's dummies for their own political agendas – and trying to warn off the state and the Lib-Con political machine by effectively saying: 'Don't touch the kids, their protest is pure and childlike!'
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Hate ta shit in yer Cheerios, mates, but as I recall from me piss poor Yank education, the "Children's Crusades" did na end well for the wee ones...
...unless you consider tens of thousands of children starving to death, being enslaved, cold bloody murdered, raped/forced into prostitution, or just vanishing without a fucking whisper to be a great idea for you kids?
Why don't you just call them the New Kids On Hitler's Block or Stalin's Stupid Stepchildren? At least with those shitty legacies they'd have a better fucking chance then what went down in the Children's Crusades...
Sometime during high school I figured out that modern liberalism was not rebellion but a full embrace of state power. I would imagine that these kids in the photo believe themselves rebels despite agitating for the status quo of endless entitlements. Gimme gimme gimme.
It perplexes me that anyone can be converted to libertarianism by Ayn Rand. In fact, reading Atlas Shrugged made me start to doubt my liberty leaning philosophy because it made it seem so trite and unrealistic. Then I just realized that Ayn Rand is a shitty writer.
I became a rugged individualist in the womb. That's why I ripped up my mother's tubes on the way out. I refused to share even those humble accommodations with another.
I had no father. I infested my mother's womb through retroactive force of will. I pulled myself up by my own bootstraps; I have no idea where all you zombies came from.
Aren't these kids a little old to believe in Santa Claus/Father Christmas?
Heck, I wish they had hung tea bags from their hats, so the elite would be damning and ridiculing them instead of pandering to a near-universal demand for free lunches.
If the elves don't make it, Santa don't take it!! Even I can't make the laws of economics go away! (I just exploit the differently heighted to get freebies for the kiddies.)
What this adult sanctioning and glee over Wednesday's demo really reveals is an adult world that now pushes its children to do its political work for it.
By having the kids carry signs that say
FUCK FEES
FREE EDUCATION NOW
The establishment should give them what they want- Stop paying everyone in the education establishment I'm sure that they'll educate for free for the children.
I gotta give Max credit. The more I read that line, the funnier it gets. A quick breakdown:
It would be better if great thing A happened, than terrible thing B. A and B have nothing to do with each other. Mass contempt for government has nothing to do with this story (the protesters have quite the opposite). Where does the bomber comment come from? Can you really fault a society for "spawning" one bomber out of every 40 million? I'd say the U.S. has a low bomber to non-bomber ratio compared to a lot of countries.
This postmodern blurring of logic and relevance plus the misspelling of loner earns this one an B+ in Douchebagging 102.
Tuition fees will rise to "$14,500 in 2012 -- a substantial rise from the current cap of $4,735"
The protest is over the tripling of fees-they have a point in that the rise is excessive. I'm going to London today; it will be interesting to see the story firsthand.
The protest is over the tripling of fees-they have a point in that the rise is excessive.
The fees aren't excessive unless they exceed the cost of providing the education.
Now, if you think the cost of providing the education is excessive, well, I think you're probably on the opposite side of this debate than you think you are.
It's akin to ripping off an elastoplast or slowing pulling it. It's still got to come off. The money just isn't there to pay for it. So, either you need less people going to uni, the overall cost of uni to decrease, taxes on everyone to increase, or the people who go to uni footing more of their own bill.
Pick one. I know which one (or 2) makes more sense to me.
I have never understood students protesting fee hikes. Because the students don't pay the fees. Those tiny few exceptions who do pay their way through their education are too busy working nights to bother with a protest.
The article is informative, not as a well reasoned piece describing the irrational beliefs of the participants but as a window inside the irrational perceptions of those like the participants.
The "maverick" author is only upset by the reactions of the adults; annoyed that they are approving of the ignorant demands of the children.
Actually, I think that Hogwarts did have a fund for kids who didn't have any money, but it was very small, and those who could afford to pay had to pay. So Dumbledore did stand for that shit.
So journalists describe the protest as a 'children's crusade', a combination of innocence ignorance and anger selfishness,
There. That's better.
What these little brats need is a good dose of the Tossed Salad Man in their schools.
Hate ta shit in yer Cheerios, mates, but as I recall from me piss poor Yank education, the "Children's Crusades" did na end well for the wee ones...
...unless you consider tens of thousands of children starving to death, being enslaved, cold bloody murdered, raped/forced into prostitution, or just vanishing without a fucking whisper to be a great idea for you kids?
Why don't you just call them the New Kids On Hitler's Block or Stalin's Stupid Stepchildren? At least with those shitty legacies they'd have a better fucking chance then what went down in the Children's Crusades...
"Free education now"
I remember the days when I thought money grew on trees. It was fun.
I dunno. I kinda wish they'd free education. They are talking about the tyranny of state-run education, right?
Individual responsibility is the real counter culture.
Sometime during high school I figured out that modern liberalism was not rebellion but a full embrace of state power. I would imagine that these kids in the photo believe themselves rebels despite agitating for the status quo of endless entitlements. Gimme gimme gimme.
Wow, it took me until the end of college.
A friend loaned me some libertarian propaganda, and I was hooked.
Middle of college for me. Rand. My parents were disappointed.
Middle of college and Rand for me as well.
Were your parents disapoint?
It perplexes me that anyone can be converted to libertarianism by Ayn Rand. In fact, reading Atlas Shrugged made me start to doubt my liberty leaning philosophy because it made it seem so trite and unrealistic. Then I just realized that Ayn Rand is a shitty writer.
I became a rugged individualist in the womb. That's why I ripped up my mother's tubes on the way out. I refused to share even those humble accommodations with another.
You must have been the spermatocyte that played by his own rules and smoked cigarettes out behind the vas deferens.
I had no father. I infested my mother's womb through retroactive force of will. I pulled myself up by my own bootstraps; I have no idea where all you zombies came from.
Expect to recruit yourself into the Time Corps, beware of sympathetic old bartenders.
Aren't these kids a little old to believe in Santa Claus/Father Christmas?
Heck, I wish they had hung tea bags from their hats, so the elite would be damning and ridiculing them instead of pandering to a near-universal demand for free lunches.
If the elves don't make it, Santa don't take it!! Even I can't make the laws of economics go away! (I just exploit the differently heighted to get freebies for the kiddies.)
What this adult sanctioning and glee over Wednesday's demo really reveals is an adult world that now pushes its children to do its political work for it.
By having the kids carry signs that say
FUCK FEES
FREE EDUCATION NOW
The establishment should give them what they want-
Stop paying everyone in the education establishment I'm sure that they'll educate for free for the children.
I'd like to see Americans show the same mass contempt for government instead of spawning the occasional loaner who sets of a bomb.
Do you mean that bank officers are becoming terrorists?
occasional loaner? I think they're pretty common, hell we're swimming in debt!
What?
Think of it as the opening line of a paranoid leftist poetry jam. "It doesn't matter what it means, man. It about how it makes you feel. Dig?"
It about how it makes you feel.
I dig.
It makes me feel bored and annoyed.
That tingling feeling means that it's working.
I thought he was talking about how all the "bombs" in the US are loaners from the gummint.
Despite whatever drivel he was attempting express, the sentence as is just begs to be diagrammed.
I gotta give Max credit. The more I read that line, the funnier it gets. A quick breakdown:
It would be better if great thing A happened, than terrible thing B. A and B have nothing to do with each other. Mass contempt for government has nothing to do with this story (the protesters have quite the opposite). Where does the bomber comment come from? Can you really fault a society for "spawning" one bomber out of every 40 million? I'd say the U.S. has a low bomber to non-bomber ratio compared to a lot of countries.
This postmodern blurring of logic and relevance plus the misspelling of loner earns this one an B+ in Douchebagging 102.
Sorry, I've been crying a lot lately.
it's a good look for you, improves your prose
Anti-semite!
Tuition fees will rise to "$14,500 in 2012 -- a substantial rise from the current cap of $4,735"
The protest is over the tripling of fees-they have a point in that the rise is excessive. I'm going to London today; it will be interesting to see the story firsthand.
The protest is over the tripling of fees-they have a point in that the rise is excessive.
The fees aren't excessive unless they exceed the cost of providing the education.
Now, if you think the cost of providing the education is excessive, well, I think you're probably on the opposite side of this debate than you think you are.
Rather,
It's akin to ripping off an elastoplast or slowing pulling it. It's still got to come off. The money just isn't there to pay for it. So, either you need less people going to uni, the overall cost of uni to decrease, taxes on everyone to increase, or the people who go to uni footing more of their own bill.
Pick one. I know which one (or 2) makes more sense to me.
Here, grown-ups are trying to turn kids into ventriloquist's dummies for their own political agendas
That's never happened before.
I have never understood students protesting fee hikes. Because the students don't pay the fees. Those tiny few exceptions who do pay their way through their education are too busy working nights to bother with a protest.
"...their protest is pure and childlike!"
*adolescent brit stamps feet*
WAAAHH I WANT IT NOW MOMMY!!
*holds breath for like 12 seconds regains breath and resumes crying*
The article is informative, not as a well reasoned piece describing the irrational beliefs of the participants but as a window inside the irrational perceptions of those like the participants.
The "maverick" author is only upset by the reactions of the adults; annoyed that they are approving of the ignorant demands of the children.
Actually, I think that Hogwarts did have a fund for kids who didn't have any money, but it was very small, and those who could afford to pay had to pay. So Dumbledore did stand for that shit.
Until Snape killed him.
Yeah, he was too dead to stand for it when Snape killed him.