F&*@ing Nick Gillespie to Talk About Vulgar TV on CNBC at 1.45PM ET

Foul-mouthed Reason.tv Editor in Chief Nick Gillespie will appear on CNBC at 1.45PM ET today to discuss the vulgarization of the idiot box with the head of the Parents Television Council. The proximate cause for the segment? Either Sandra Bullock smooching Scarlett Johannsen at the MTV video awards or President Barack Obama talking about kicking a-- on the small screen. Or maybe Nipplegate. Or Cher and Bono and Nicole Ritchie cussing on awards shows. Or maybe Clark Gable not wearing a T-shirt in It Happened One Night.

Here's a great moment in vulgarity, though not from the US of A:

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[anarch]

President Barack Obama talking

Bingo.

[inevitable reply]

That's racist.

[Suki]

+1

[ClubMedSux]

How is that racist??? He never once described Obama's talking as "educated," "well-spoken," etc.

[Suki]

You left out clean.

[anarch]

You say clean? I ain't no domestic!

[Suki]

+1

[hmm]

Well ain't that just fuckin' grand.

[The Man]

You fargin' icehole.

[ClubMedSux]

I've never understood what anybody saw in the Sex Pistols. After watching that video, I still don't understand what anybody saw in the Sex Pistols.

[wylie]

An instruction manual for how to piss off your parents. Do kids really need more than that?

[ClubMedSux]

I guess that's the thing. Now that I have kids of my own to piss ME off that kind of immature brattiness just doesn't do anything for me. But at the same time, I still love listening to Black Flag and Minor Threat and there was plenty of youthful rebellion in their music. Of course, even when I was a teenager in the '90s and digging back into all the old punk stuff, I just didn't get the Sex Pistols. I mean, if you're going to be vulgar and abrasive at least have a sense of humor about it like Fear did.

[JW]

My rule is to always have music that is far worse than they regularly listen to. That and educate them on the finer points of punk and rock and roll. So far, it's worked.

[Ska]

Probably that they weren't the Beatles or the Kinks.

[Warty]

I don't understand what anybody saw in Siouxsie Sioux, for that matter.

[WTF]

Debbie Harry always made my pockets tight back in the Blondie days.

Come to think of it, she still does.

[dbcooper]

http://www.inside-rock.fr/IMG/jpg/siouxsie2.jpg

[Warty]

OK, so she was cute when she dressed as a grownup.

[dbcooper]

I suspect Bill Grundy was thinking "my word, I bet she'd pure filth in the sack."

[skr]

I know I was.

[BakedPenguin]

I've always thought "Cities in Dust" was a great song. Other than that, I have to agree.

[Dirty Talk Ideas]

We should teach general ethics to both men and women, but sexual relationships themselves must not be policed. Sex, like the city streets, would be risk-free only in totalitarian regimes.

[Force shits upon Reason's back]

That's because the Sex Pistols were products of their time and looking back from our time you lose the context.

The same way that younger people can have a debate whether the Stones are better than the Beatles, but to anyone that lived thru the 60's comparing the two is laughable.

That said, Anarchy in the UK is still a great song.

[ClubMedSux]

That's what my boss says (who's about 15 years older than I). I guess it just says that much more about the Clash that their music stands up so well when removed from the context of the late '70s.

[Warty]

The Clash were great because they were talented and disciplined. The Sex Pistols were neither. See?

[BakedPenguin]

The Sex Pistols were decent enough with Matlock on bass - he could actually play, and write. Once they got Sid Vicious, who could do neither, it was all over.

[BakedPenguin]

Also, I have to wonder how the Grundy interview would have gone had Vicious been in the band at the time. From the interviews I've heard with him, he used "fuck" as punctuation.

[Joshua]

It's all due to the HBO show Deadwood. There was one episode where I counted* 24 utterances of "cocksucker".

*I didn't actually count, but they said it a lot on that show!

[Ska]

Even the non-English speaking Woo learned to say cocksucker.

[Pedant]

SWEGEN!

[SugarFree]

The greatest line of Deadwood remains:

"He got caught pickling his prick in the cunt-brine of another."

[Ska]

Said by whom to who about whom?

English pedants who want to correct about my use of who/whom suck dick by choice.

[SugarFree]

Spoiler alert for you sissies who always whine.

Swearengen about Bullock when Mrs. Bullock finally showed up. I think, episode 1 of the 2nd season.

[Ska]

AH....I knew it had to be a Swe'ngen line, but wasn't sure about who.

It also just made me think that Bullock's wife is Walt's wife from Breaking Bad (no access to IMDB right now to confirm).

[SugarFree]

You are correct, both roles were played by Anna Gunn.

But, then, I repeat myself...
Gwen Ifill/teabagger thread.

[Ska]

What an incredible thread. Pre-threaded, too, for added nostalgia and win.

[Ska]

Pre-threaded comments.....

[rbenchley]

The greatest line of Deadwood remains:

"He got caught pickling his prick in the cunt-brine of another."

That is a fantastic line, but since we're posting here at reason, I would suggest this one: "I am a sinner who does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."

[pantsfan]

Don't forget the great EB Farnum: "Her gutter mouth, and the widow in an opium stupor. A conversation for the ages."

[pantsfan]

Al Swearengen to Seth Bullock: "Here's my counteroffer to your counteroffer -- go fuck yourself."

[Warty]

The cutest thing about that video is how that atrophied little fucker carefully enunciates 'fucking' like it's dangerous.

[?]

Obama talking about kicking a--

And not just any ass. Folks' ass.

Yo.

[Suki]

He specified the right asses, so it's all good.

[The Gobbler]

DRTFA, but about three days before Obama said 'ass" the Big Media (via Spike Lee) was all talking about how Obama needed to say something really forceful in order to stop his decining approval ratings.

So is The Obama a tool of Big Media or is Big Media a tool of Obama's?

[Suki]

Can't they both be tools?

[Pro Libertate]

It's pathetic that he's called out for not showing enough anger then feels the need to fake some anger on TV. I'm going to replace the phrase "empty suit" in my dictionary of colloquialisms with "Obama."

Incidentally, those who were upset about him not losing his cool were wrong. A leader or senior executive should never lose his cool. Ever.

[Suki]

They do in movies.

[ClubMedSux]

You hear the same crap in sports... Everybody wants some Vince Lombardi foaming at the mouth running around the sidelines/dugout/bench. Nobody seems to stop and think if their boss yelling at them would make them a better worker or not.

[Pro Libertate]

At least in sports emotional play might make sense some times. Losing your cool in crises in the business or political would is not a leadership virtue.

Unfortunately, it appears that Obama doesn't give a shit/doesn't get shit more than he's cool and collected.

[Tim]

People wanted Captain Kirk but they ended up with Mr. Spock. Fascinating...

[Death Panelist]

Any use by President Obama of the word "folks" can be blamed on the previous administration.

[capitol l]

I'd love to find the toady that first told a politician to use the word "folks" as a way to "connect with the voters". If anybody deserves to be tarred and feathered, it's him.

Does anyone actually say "folks", other than when making fun of politicians?

Also, it seems that there is a correlation between the number of times a politician says "folks" and the acuteness of their disconnect with reality.

[Anomalous]

Somebody I work with uses "folks" without irony (which I don't think he's capable of). It's quite annoying.

[bob]

I know we do in the South. White folks, Black folks, Old folks, Young folks. Some white folk even proudly call themselves coon ass.

[capitol l]

I wonder if Obama said "folks" every other word when he was surrounded by yuppies in Chicago, or if W. used it so liberally in his term papers at Yale and Harvard?

[l0b0t]

Wow, that was a disappointingly short, uninformative segment. Is that sort of format normative on that show/network?

[ed]

At least it was perfunctory and superfluous.

[Rhayader]

I hate the very term "vulgarity". Such a stupid, baseless concept.

[Pro Libertate]

How common of you.

[Groovus Maximus]

It's his natural state of being.

[Rhayader]

I don't get it.

[Groovus Maximus]

How pedestrian of you, Rayader!

"Natural", in this case, is synonymous with "unsophisticated", ergo, "common".

[Rhayader]

OK, and what exactly is common about my initial comment? Not that I really care, mind you, but now that you're answering I may as well continue asking.

Also, I didn't walk to work today, so that pedestrian thing is way the fuck off base dude.

[Pro Libertate]

Vulgarity, derived from the Latin vulgaritas (commonness; the multitude).

[Tim]

The English are better at it than we are.

[JW]

Quite the vulgarian, aren't you?

[Otto]

You're the vulgarian, you fuck!

[bonewah]

Your the vulgarian you fuck!

[Pro Libertate]

Some here are adept at the Vulgarian Mind Meld.

[Suki]

PL, Vulgarian Mindfuck.

[David]

Those kids are such ... punks!

[MP]

OT: Is there something funny embedded in the current set of posts? When I scroll down in any browser (FireFox, Chrome, or IE), it locks up. Maybe this is a Flash issue?

[Banjos Kick Ass!]

Oh for the love of fuck Nick! Why the fuck would you want to fucking waste your mother fucking time talking about stupid cunt shit like fucking vulgarity when a cocksucker like you can just tell all these asshole licking fuck faces to just read the comment section of reason online if they want to know what the fuck vulgarity is.

[BakedPenguin]

BTW, Nick - congratulations. This is a big fucking deal.

[Charles Johnson banned me]

Vulgarity for shock is shlock.

[OO=====D]

WHAT'S MY NAME!? WHAT'S MY NAME!? WHAT'S MY NAME!?

[Enough About Palin]

This is worth swearing about:

Obama Wastes Millions of Taxpayer Dollars on Personal Entertainment

While much of the country is struggling to pay their bills, the President and First Lady are partying like rock royalty. The collection of talent that has made the pilgrimage to the White House to entertain Obama and friends is nothing less than amazing: Bob Dylan, Stevie Wonder, Tony Bennet, Paul Simon, Marc Anthony, Herbie Hancock, Martina McBride, Queen Latifah, The Foo Fighters, Faith Hill, and recently foot-in-mouth Paul McCartney to name a few.

How much does this world-class entertainment cost? Assuming the artists themselves forgo appearance fees, I highly doubt Paul Simon would perform with just a karaoke machine as backup.
Professional equipment needs to be brought in - sound engineers, stages, lights, etc? Even small scale performances by these artists can be very expensive.

Add booze, food, security, invitations, social secretaries, wait staff, and hangers on to the tab and the price for one of these events could easily top $75K. With over 27 concerts hosted thus far, the total cost to taxpayers is in the millions of dollars.

The executive branch does not provide detailed information regarding entertainment expenses, however, it has been estimated the Obamas spent at least $10 million on "drunken White House parties" in 2009 alone.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/23988

[Atanarjuat]

I doubt this scandal will go anywhere, but it is infuriating.

[juanita]

Great video.

[heller]

God dammit i got handled.

[Groovus Maximus]

DeCloak'z Law strikes again!

[God]

Stop handling yourself:-)

[Suki]

+1

[God]

Suki, you are my favorite daisy in this mud

[AlmightyJB]

Muhammad and Jesus are fucking cocksuckers.

[Mark D]

Parents Television Council: "Sex and Violence on TV is bad, Sex and Violence in the Bible is good" "Sorry kids you can't watch "Burn Notice", but you can watch Mel Gibson's "The Passion of the Christ" for the 100th time."