What Sort of Health Care Reform Does Scott Brown Actually Support?
At this point, exactly where Scott Brown stands on health care policy is a matter of significant interest. He ran against the Democratic reform plan, but he also spoke favorably of the Massachusetts' system, which is virtually identical to what President Obama and Congressional Democrats have proposed.
In a press conference just a few minutes ago, Scott Brown mentioned in passing that he supports some kind of basic plan for everyone, but was against the Medicare cuts, tax hikes, and massive spending now being proposed. He followed this answer by letting another reporter know that he hadn't slept much—the implication being that he could really use a couple hours of shut eye.
Presumably, the first answer stemmed from the second, because it doesn't make much sense. Policies that employ the machinations of government to expand coverage cost money. But it might also be a signal that Brown is open to some kind of scaled-back compromise plan. I can't think of what that would be, but I'd guess Democratic leadership is making every effort to find out.
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I’d guess that, number one, they’re admitting that the argument of “why should Massachusetts pay federal taxes to provide benefits nationally that are already provided at the state level by state taxes” has some salience. MA arguably deserves a special kickback more than Lousiana, Nebraska, or Florida.
We’ll see. He is likely to join the Snowe-Collins Yankee Republican caucus, no one should be surprised by that.
The dude is a cosmopolitan model. I don’t think he has any clue what he supports. But I do know he will put his finger to the wind and figure out what he should support in his own interests.
I’m assuming he isn’t a moron.
He’s got to know that if he turned around and voted in favor of any healthcare reform proposal his goose would be cooked.
And he’s up for reelection in 2012.
NOW can we turn on him?
“Presumably, the first answer stemmed from the second, because it doesn’t make much sense.”
Suggested rewrite: “Presumably, the first answer stemmed from the fact that he is a Republican.”
I mean, it’s official Republican doctrine that Medicare benefits should not be cut, at all, ever, and that taxes should always be cut, forever. I’m sure that any and all Republicans who know anything about health care know that isn’t going to work, but right now all they care about is a stick with which to beat Obama, and this is a stick that’s working.
Back to Brown. Here’s the deal for him: do whatever you want for the rest of the country, but Massachusetts doesn’t have to pay for it. Oh, and give Massachusetts an extra $25 billion a year for having invented Thanksgiving. And maybe guarantee a trip to the Super Bowl every three years for the Patriots. Deal? I think so!
I do believe I learned late last night that for health policy Brown stands for the compulsory serving of asparagus at breakfast.
Or perhaps I dreamt it.
He’s got to know that if he turned around and voted in favor of any healthcare reform proposal his goose would be cooked. ab workouts for men without equipment | effective ab workouts for men
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I’m sure that any and all Republicans who know anything about health care anything know that isn’t going to work
FTFY
Well, Alan, your man says and claims to believe impossible things on health care as well. None of President Obama’s utterances on health care make sense or are logically consistent.
Suggested rewrite: “Presumably, the first answer stemmed from the fact that he is a politician.”
Of course, go one level further down, and the polls reveal that the average voter wants contradictory things on health care as well. President Obama was happy to promise contradictory things when running for office or selling his plan, but he can’t actually achieve all of them.
The thing is, Alan, is that if you’re opposing something you don’t have to have all your members and reasons be logically consistent. Ask a defense attorney. Particularly when you’re opposing a proposed policy that is self-contradictory and full of lies.
Yes, I have no doubt that if Democrats “fixed” the bill so that it didn’t cut Medicare, Republicans would pivot to opposing it based on increasing the deficit. But the reason that they could do that is because the bill is being sold on the basis of a pack of lies– that it doesn’t cut Medicare and doesn’t increase the deficit and adds benefits and all sorts of other things that rely on trickery like matching up the revenue from 10 years with the spending from 6 in the budget window.
Rationalization Round-up.
He ran as the anti-Pelosi, anti-Reid, anti-big-spending-liberal. His “#41” mantra is not insignificant. But is he an empty vessel, a spoiler only? Maybe so, but I’ll take it at this point in the game.
“the Massachusetts’ system, which is virtually identical to what President Obama and Congressional Democrats have proposed”
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Both are SHIT.
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If he can help get the folks in Ma in a federal safety net, then Massachusetts can get rid of that expensive Masscare and let others help them pay for their healthcare.
That is so cynical and plausible I think I’m going to be sick.
What is Brown going to do when
obamacare=romneycare? Point at himself and howl SOCIALIST! ?
The guy is freaking proud of romney care and his help enacting it fer cryin out loud. Y’all need to pull your heads out of your asses. Mark my words, libertarians will rue the day they supported this naked ass dude.
We will have a stronger national security apparatus and masscare for all.
I man really. Does’t the MA plan give a tax break to Union members? Does the MA plan cover Medicade costs 100%in some MA jurisdictions but not in others? Who writes this blathering shit???
Who writes this blathering shit???
Pssst: check the byline.
So how did Suderman do last week? Anything in the top five?
And let’s not forget the important detail that the MA plan is, you know, a state plan.
Right. Which means that if the citizens of Massachusetts want to do it to themselves, I’m less concerned if it doesn’t affect me, and people can move freely back and forth between states.
Federalism isn’t perfect for libertarianism, by any means, and sometimes short-term centralism can benefit freedom, but over the long term freedom of movement and federalism benefit liberty.
He has enough time to disappoint.
seems cracking the table was the best thing i did for healtcare reform.
Hopefully he supports reform along federalist lines, that states should decide for themselves if they want to implement mandatory health insurance plans. That’s the only way the USA can work, we should celebrate the regional differences and outcomes. People are free to move elsewhere if they don’t like the state they’re living in.
You liberterrorians are all for federalism as long as it doesn’t allow laws that keep children from being shot and women from being battered.
Right.
When I mentioned last week in another forum that Brown would probably vote for the _next_ healthcare bill, Republicans came crawling out of the woodwork to call me a fucking idiot. Even this little old blue haired church lady was flinging shit at me.
The only thing good coming out of this election will be a big whopping dose of schadenfreude for me as I tell the world “I told ya so”.
Say hi to the new boss, same as the old boss.
He’s a Federalist. He’s o.k. with state implementation of universal health care but not federal.
Alexander Hamilton was a Federalist too.
How can you “scale back” the current bills. They are utterly watered down as it is. Even if they passed, we would still be the most right-wing nation in the industrialized world by a wide margin….and we would still be overpaying by a wide margin.
Sen. Brown is a very good friend of the President. What the republicans don’t realize is that he will agree with almost the whole healthcare bill. Yep, the basketball court will be played upon. And Obama will win. Brown gets it fully and he will do his best to protect and further this nation as Harry S. Truman wanted us all to protect our own.
A quote from Brown being guilted to by Meredith Viera:
“BROWN: Well first of all, you’re misrepresenting. I never said I was gonna do everything I can to stop health care. I believe that everybody should have health care, it’s just a question on how we do it. Do we do a one size fits all plan? Do we allow the states to actually get more involved and do what we did?
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/g…..z0dD3qQGjz”
As a Scott Brown voter, I do fear he’ll jump on the next big pile of mess heaped together by the Democrats, but I’m hoping the Republicans as a whole come back with a counter offer first – eg, break the health care-job connections, either override state health insurance mandates or convince states to minimize and consolidate them, etc.
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Wanted to share an interesting op-ed by CEA head Gary Shapiro that takes a look at the current state of politics and health care reform, http://bit.ly/5O9IqG
the basketball court will be played upon. And Obama will win. Brown gets it fully and he will do his best to protect and further this nation as Harry S. Truman wanted us all to protect our own.