Reason Morning Links: No Federal Grants for ACORN, Federal Raids in NYC, Shoe Thrower Freed

- Federal agents raid homes in New York City as part of anti-terror probe.

- Iraqi shoe thrower released, says he was tortured while in prison.

- House will discipline Rep. Joe Wilson (R-S.C.) for hectoring Obama.

- New York City will extend smoking ban to parks and beaches.

- Senate cuts off federal aid to ACORN.

Comments

[Nick]

In other news, Barack Obama doesn't care about black people.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/15/obama-calls-kanye-west-jackass/?loomia_ow=t0:s0:a16:g2:r1:c0.059116:b27718712:z0

[Naga Sadow, Progressive]

Nick,

Stop creating an enviroment of fear and learn to love the HOPE and CHANGE.

[!]

Federal agents raid homes in New York City as part of anti-terror probe.

Let the terrorist apologists begin their defense. Just dust off the stuff they were saying about the 'Buffalo Six' and change the dates.

[Rich]

"We're not the British parliament for a reason," said Kristie Greco, spokeswoman for House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn (D-SC)."

Ah, yes ...

[Rich]

The mayor said his anti-smoking agenda includes glaring, "with not a particularly nice look," at smokers gathered outside buildings.

Let the fights and lawsuits begin.

[smartass sob]

New York City will extend smoking ban to parks and beaches.

What are the control freaks going to outlaw next - chewing gum?

[SugarFree]

joe | October 17, 2008, 2:47pm | #

God bless ACORN, out there registering 13 million new voters. They're doing God's work in some of the toughest neighborhoods in America.

Have fun gagging on the rest of the thread.

[@]

Federal agents raid homes in New York City as part of anti-terror probe

Let me guess: the terrorists were smoking.

[Naga Sadow]

SugarFree,

I'm not even gonna bother clicking on it. With Joe's name in there it has to full of FAIL.

[Tomcat1066]

SugarFree,

What? Helping a hooker and her pimp evade taxes is God's work. Right?

Next, they plan on helping child porn rings develop cohesive corporate strategies to help take their business to new heights.

[Xeones]

Have fun gagging on the rest of the thread.

Man, sometimes i forget what an ass joe was/is. An utterly, blindly, partisan hack ass.

[How Big is Your End of Life Fo]

"http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/15/obama-calls-kanye-west-jackass/?loomia_ow=t0:s0:a16:g2:r1:c0.059116:b27718712:z0"

"West told Leno he's going to take some time off to reflect and that "it was rude, period."

"I need to, after this, take some time off and just analyze how I'm going to make it through the rest of this life"

STFUKW!

[How Big is Your End of Life Fo]

"God bless ACORN, out there registering 13 million new voters. They're doing God's work in some of the toughest neighborhoods in America."

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

[John]

Good one Suger Free. That is why Joe doesn't post here anymore. He knew that once his side was in power, he was going to be calld to account for all the bullshit he put out. He didn't have the stomach for it. You watch, after the Dems get kicked out of power and he no longer has to defend their actual actions he will be back.

What is amazing about the Acorn thing is that they apparently have gotten another person in NYC to agree to help a pimp. First, what are the chances that you get three people in three offices within a month to agree to do that unless the whole organization is utterly corrupt? When it broke with just the woman in Baltimore, I felt that it was kind of unfair to paint ACORN by the actions of one person. But, if you can get three people in three different offices to do the same thing, something is systematically wrong with the organization. And they apparently got the ones in NYC after the story of the first two broke. Does ACORN do anything but help pimps set up shop?

[!]

What? Helping a hooker and her pimp evade taxes is God's work. Right?

Latest news is that the MD prosecutor is going to investigate FOX News for not informing the subjects they were being taped. Nothing on bothering toe poor innocent ACORN people.

Does this joe person work in MD?

[How Big is Your End of Life Fo]

"Does ACORN do anything but help pimps set up shop?"

They do voter fraud good.

[Solanum]

SugarFree, do you object to Salvation Army bell ringers?

Getting people to do what they should be doing anyway, in order to make our society a better place, is a noble pursuit.

---------------------------------------------

There is very little more noble than bringing our democracy closer to the high ideals we set for ourselves.

God blass ACORN for all that they do.

Jesus tappdancing christ. You owe me a new monitor, SF.

[Rich]

Does ACORN do anything but help pimps set up shop?

Sure.

[Jaosn WOods]

Wow, once again lloks liek the Feds have WAY too much spare time on their hands!

Dink
http://www.web-privacy.de.tc

[!]

Jesus tappdancing christ. You owe me a new monitor, SF.

Clicking through on his links is like playing Russian Roulette, with a semi-auto.

[SugarFree]

Two more reasons he's too sissy to come here anymore:

Take a ride on the sanctimony pony, now with more semantic hair splitting.

(For extra points: Spot joe's profligate sockpuppet. Hint: He argues against him, feebly, and is the only one who laughs at his bitter-hack jokes and disappeared at the exact same time joe did. (Episiarch spotted it long before me.))

joe | October 16, 2008, 11:06pm | #

ACORN is a wonderful organization. They've registered millions of people. It does not bother me in the slightest that they are very occasionally the victim of canvessers who falsify forms.

You see, an organization with a few bad apples is perfectly OK.

[prolefeed]

Surprisingly, the vote wasn't unanimous. Apparently ACORN offering help evading taxes to a pimp and prostitute wanting to set up a brothel with underage illegal immigrant girls isn't a deal-breaker for everyone in the U.S. Senate.

Standard libertarian disclaimer -- I'm all for lowering taxes, and legalizing prostitution, and allowing immigrants and employers to freely enter into employment contracts without interference from the Feds. The underaged girls part and giving tax money to ACORN? Not so much so.

The Walk 'O Shame (the 16 NAYs and Not Voting):

NAYs ---7
Burris (D-IL)
Casey (D-PA)
Durbin (D-IL)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Leahy (D-VT)
Sanders (I-VT)
Whitehouse (D-RI)

Not Voting - 9
Burr (R-NC)
Byrd (D-WV)
Coburn (R-OK)
Graham (R-SC)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hutchison (R-TX)
McCain (R-AZ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Vitter (R-LA)

[John]

"ACORN spokesman Scott Levenson claimed the tape was done by a right-wing group with political motivations.

"What this is is a hit piece," Levenson said. "This is a doctored tape, an edited tape. What ACORN has a 15-step process that is required to get a loan. These people didn't get a loan, they didn't fill out an application to for a loan."

CBS 2 tried to talk to O'Keefe, but he refused to answer any questions. We also haven't seen the entire tape, so we don't know if it was edited. Still, the Brooklyn District Attorney's office is investigating."

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/acorn.pimp.prostitute.2.1182630.html

The tape is doctored. It's a hit piece. The bitch made me do it!!

[Warty]

I'm reminded of Oswald claiming the photos of him posing with his Carcano were fakes.

[Xeones]

For extra points: Spot joe's profligate sockpuppet.

BDB? Huh.

[Solanum]

Maybe joe was right. How is helping pimps put more hot underage teenage sex slaves on the streets a bad thing? God bless ACORN -- they fly on the wings of angels!

[How Big is Your End of Life Fo]

"they fly on the wings of angels!"

Did I ever tell you you're my hero?
You're everything, everything I wish I could be.
Oh, and I, I could fly higher than an eagle,
for you are the pimp beneath my wings.

[Tomcat1066]

You ever notice you don't hear people trying to take down other groups who try to help the poor, like Habitat for Humanity? Could it be that they are focusing on ACORN because they're corrupt as hell?

Nah. Can't be. Must be racial instead.

[John]

Come on tomcat1066, you know as well as I do if you went to Habitat for Humanity and asked them to build you a brothel to house your underage Central American sex slaves, they would be down with that. I mean that is how they roll right?

[J sub D]

House Democratic leaders have decided to formally discipline Rep. Joe Wilson, R-S.C., on Tuesday for his jeer last week at President Obama during a joint session of Congress.

Joe Wilson lacks manners and respect for decorum.
Joe Wilson will be slapped with a "resolution of disapproval". That'll teach him for sure.

Charlie Rangel is a tax evader/thief.
Charlie Rangel is still chaircritter of the Ways and Means committee.

Nice to see Nancy has her priorities in order.

[How Big is Your End of Life Fo]

"Could it be that they are focusing on ACORN"

I strongly dislike ACORN, but to be fair, when I watch these tapes, what I see is simply ghetto culture caught on film.

[Kolohe]

Yeah, I don't agree that BDB is joe's sockpuppet; I've seen him elsewhere on the intertubes.

For that matter, there's been a fairly sizeable changeout on who posts here regularly now from those who did two years ago.

[How Big is Your End of Life Fo]

"For that matter, there's been a fairly sizeable changeout on who posts here regularly now from those who did two years ago."

The women left.

[John]

Jennifer left. But I believe Dagny is female. There never were a lot of women commenting on here.

[John]

And also Hazel Meade, whoever or whatever she is, posts a lot. I think she is a female, but not sure.

[SugarFree]

We still have FrBunny, Hazel, Dagny, Suki, Browyn, and stubby. Jennifer still shows up.

Naga's about 40% girl.

[John]

"We still have FrBunny, Hazel, Dagny, Suki, Browyn, and stubby. Jennifer still shows up.

Naga's about 40% girl."

And Pro Liberate is a catcher to pitcher Episiarch. That ought to count for something.

[The Angry Optimist]

Do we have a trans woman trapped in a trans man body with a leather/Cleveland fetish out there?

Aw, yeah - Warty. I forgot.

[@]

Lots of people left to manage their own lonely, insignificant blogs.

[SugarFree]

Most of our trolls whine like little girls...

[SugarFree]

OK. That was unfair to little girls.

[!]

what I see is simply ghetto culture caught on film.

Racist! 🙂

[John]

"OK. That was unfair to little girls."

I have a seven year old niece who could kick Chad and Tony's ass without breaking a sweat.

[Tomcat1066]

How about "whine like little my wife"?

[!]

We still have FrBunny, Hazel, Dagny, Suki, Browyn, and stubby. Jennifer still shows up.

Naga's about 40% girl.

SF, are you trying to get shot by Suki talking about Naga that way?

[Tomcat1066]

Ok...THAT makes no fucking sense.

Let's try that again:

How about "whine like my wife"?

[!]

Tomcat1066,

Which law were you demonstrating? I wish someone would put up a user's guide to the laws of H&R for those of us who are still green.

[Tomcat1066]

That's the Law of Typing While Talking to Idiots. 😉

[SugarFree]

I ain't a-scared of her. Probably just have some sort of girlie gun anyway.

[!]

Sounds like it is Tomcat's law now. Do a pretty writeup.

[?]

Must be racial instead.

It is.

ACORN is run by and for the benefit of the "White Power Structure," black chumps are over-represented among the chumps they use to do it, and they throw them up as human shields to shout "Racist!" from behind whenever they get caught being criminals.

Looting in blackface is "racial."

[How Big is Your End of Life Fo]

"Racist! :)"

Not really. If you live in a world of pimps and gangbangers and drug dealers, they don't seem out of the ordinary when they come looking for help with a mortgage. They're just your neighbors.

[SugarFree]

John,

I'm pushing for a niece, myself. My sister-in-law's getting married in October. We're hoping they get started soon. I'm going to teach her to kickbox, curse and gamble.

[John]

"I'm pushing for a niece, myself. My sister-in-law's getting married in October. We're hoping they get started soon. I'm going to teach her to kickbox, curse and gamble."

Reasons why I want a daughter.

[How Big is Your End of Life Fo]

"kickbox, curse and gamble"

If you really cared about the kid, you'd teach her how to throw an ax.

[!]

SF,

I ain't a-scared of her. Probably just have some sort of girlie gun anyway.

Um, I hate pointing this out from a book (when it is mine), but she (well, not her, the character she helped with) killed a woman and a transexual in Suki III with her fiance's 1911 .45. The link is to the Google preview. But she does carry a Walther .22 magnum in her purse.

[P Brooks]

Most of our trolls whine like little girls...

Don't you ever get tired of ridiculing Santorum's daughter?

[!]

PB,

LOL! Win!

[Mark]

There probably aren't a lot of female commenters on H 'n R because there aren't a lot of female subscribers to reason. I think 90% of the readership is male, between the ages of 20-45, and more likely to have a subscription to Wired then The National Review or The Atlantic Monthly.

[Spartacus]

"God bless ACORN, out there registering 13 million new voters. They're doing God's work in some of the toughest neighborhoods in America."

This is even more impressive when you consider that there were only 700,000 people living in those neighborhoods.

[SugarFree]

Don't you ever get tired of ridiculing Santorum's daughter?

No. No, I don't.

Do you think Tony has a doll that he dresses in matching outfits with?

[tekende]

Beside the point, but man, the NY Post has one of the worst website designs I've ever seen.

[!]

Do you think Tony has a doll that he dresses in matching outfits with?

Back to the phone sex thread from yesterday already are we?

[Xeones]

Naga's about 40% girl.

XXXYY, to be precise.

[P Brooks]

Do you think Tony has a doll that he dresses in matching outfits with?

Paul Krugman Action Figures are not DOLLS!

[How Big is Your End of Life Fo]

"Do you think Tony has a doll that he dresses in matching outfits with?"

I love it when he and his doll dress up like Wednesday Addams. It's the pig-tails that do it for me.

[How Big is Your End of Life Fo]

"Paul Krugman Action Figures are not DOLLS!"

Like hell they're not.

[Abdul]

I nearly always disagreed with Joe, and he was strictly partisan, but he added a little contrast. One of the nice things about H&R is that it's not an echo chamber.

[SugarFree]

Paul Krugman Action Figures are not DOLLS!

I agree. No dolls a have a Keynesian Stimulus grip and Nobel prize-firing rocket launcher. And few dolls vibrate and can be run through the dishwasher.

[How Big is Your End of Life Fo]

City Hall's biggest pension doesn't go to a police superintendent, fire commissioner or even an alderman.

It's paid to a former steamroller operator named Dennis J. Gannon.

But Gannon's City Hall pension - $153,649 a year - isn't based on what he was paid as a steamroller operator and foreman for the city's Department of Streets and Sanitation.

Instead, Gannon took advantage of a little-known state law that allowed him to base his taxpayer-supported pension on his much-larger salary as president of the Chicago Federation of Labor, a private organization that represents more than 300 unions affiliated with the AFL-CIO.

And he didn't even have to retire as the federation president. He's still in that job, which paid him $215,484 in 2007, the most recent figures available.

Thanks to that law, Gannon now collects a city pension that's nearly three times what he made at City Hall. He began collecting that pension five years ago, when he was 50. By the time he turns 70, that city pension will have paid him a total of more than $3 million.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/1769029,CST-NWS-pension14.article

[Atanarjuat]

? Federal agents raid homes in New York City as part of anti-terror probe.

Last line of the article:

Authorities said there were no arrests.

[Nick]

Glad it's not a total sausage fest.

[Solanum]

Paul Krugman Action Figures are not DOLLS!

Does it come with a fluffy, anatomically correct cat?

[mitch]

Abdul,

I think Joe was also more of an intellectual, or at least addressed ideas and used data more, than some of the current lefty commenters here.

[How Big is Your End of Life Fo]

"Does it come with a fluffy, anatomically correct cat?"

No, but it does cum IN a fluffy, anatomically correct cat.

[Joette]

No, not a complete sausage fest. I'm always lurking but rarely posting because by the time I get to an article someone's usually already said what I wanted to say, and said it better than I could have...

[SugarFree]

I have always suggested that the opposite of a sausage fest should be referred to as a "clambake." Urban Dictionary has finally agreed with me.

[Art-P.O.G.]

Yeah, joe was a little more, say, articulate than Tony. In a good way and in a bad way. I can't help but like the guy even though looking back he said some pretty terrible, arrogant stuff.*

*Wait a minute, isn't that what the internet's for?

[alan]

The link is to the Google preview. But she does carry a Walther .22 magnum in her purse.

Sweet Jesus!

[tankrunner1123]

Cant we all just get along?

[Art-P.O.G.]

Sounds like you have a life, Joette. Unfortunate, that. 😉

SugarFree: I like it.

Also re: your BDB theory, I don't know if he was joe's sockpuppet or not, but if he was that would put joe in the running with Lefiti and LoneWacko for the H&R saddoe (human tragedy) championship.

[Pro Libertate]

I'm a what? I could swear there's name for that comment. . .projection?

As long as partisans go out of their way to excuse the obvious bad acts of their fellow travelers, we're going to have corruption, fraud, and deceit as our government's principal characteristics.

ACORN is a bad organization, with plenty of instances of disturbing behavior, whether it be in shady electoral practices, race-baiting, coercion, providing advice to illegal businesses, etc., etc. To dismiss all of the questionable practices they've performed over the years is more than a little Machiavellian. As noted above, there are plenty of legitimate groups that have similar politics that are nowhere near as tainted.

[How Big is Your End of Life Fo]

"Sweet Jesus!"

What the hell is that thing?

[Joette]

Oh, and I intended to say, in an attempt to be somewhat on topic, is that smoking at "athletic fields", most of which are in public parks, in Port Orange FL (just south of Daytona Beach) has been illegal since about 2004 -- presumably because the children might see it.

[alan]

Abdul | September 15, 2009, 10:48am | #
I nearly always disagreed with Joe, and he was strictly partisan, but he added a little contrast. One of the nice things about H&R is that it's not an echo chamber.

It is not his ideology that makes me glad he is no longer around, it was the bad faith he encapsulated almost everything that he wrote. I once saw him on another message board using arguments that he would never use here given he would have been called out and squashed to persuade someone that morally inept vileness underlined the philosophy of Libertarianism. It was always truth be damned with joe so long as my side wins, and I can't respect that.

[SugarFree]

How Big,

He's building his own Gauss Rifle.

[John C. Randolph]

Paul Krugman Action Figures are not DOLLS!

P Brooks wins the thread. Well done.

-jcr

[alan]

What the hell is that thing?

It's a built it yourself rail gun! Here are some pics because the better ones at that site are not showing up for me at this time.

[Warty]

leather/Cleveland fetish

Don't tell me that you can imagine the Terminal Tower dressed up in leather without getting a raging boner, faggot.

[Naga Sadow]

Xeones,

When I figure out what XXXYY means you'll regret that comment.

SugarFree,

Only 40%? That's actually a higher percentage than I'm used to hearing.

[John]

Warty, Naga, and Pro Liberate show up late and shack fists in rage.

[Art-P.O.G.]

It was always truth be damned with joe so long as my side wins, and I can't respect that.

Wouldn't that actually make him the greatest heel in H&R history?

[SugarFree]

I wonder what the three of them were doing to each other before they got here. Ew.

[Pro Libertate]

I was in deep meditation, preparing to be annoyed.

[Warty]

We were not fisting each other in a shack, John. You fucking pervert.

[Tomcat1066]

Sounds like it is Tomcat's law now. Do a pretty writeup.

Tomcat's Law: Whenever you write something incomprehensible by anyone with a fully functioning brain due to being distracted by people who don't have fully functional brains.

[alan]

Wouldn't that actually make him the greatest heel in H&R history?

I'm trying to think of someone who may rival him for that title, but no one comes to mind at this time. MNG has been acting more pissy than usual of late, but at times he keeps his ego in check, and comes up with an honest gem here and there. Chad is pure evil, but he is not on here often enough to rack up joe's score.
Yep, we gotta give the prize to joe.

[alan]

Oh, and Michael C. Moynihan deserves a mention. I'm looking forward to the great Gaza shoot out between him and MNG one day. It is bound to happen. It has to happen. Don't let your popcorn supply go to zero because that will be the day it happens.

[Solanum]

The gun threads are where joe really shined. His complete ignorance on the subject didn't stop his smug certitude on gun mechanics and legislation. The semantic contortions he'd go through ranged from embarrassing to just downright bizarre.

[!]

SF,

I like to think that I have a decent imagenation and I do thingk that women's purses will be even larger in the future than they are now, but I cannot write with a good concience a 5' 6" 115 lb. woman lugging a railgun around in her purse.

[!]

Oh, and Michael C. Moynihan deserves a mention. I'm looking forward to the great Gaza shoot out between him and MNG one day.

Where would you rather live? In Gaza or Queens?

[!]

I like to think that I have a decent imagenation and I do thingk that women's purses will be even larger in the future than they are now, but I cannot write with a good concience a 5' 6" 115 lb. woman lugging a railgun around in her purse.

Too much to correct. Someone count up the various rulez I hit and let me know if I scored a hat trick?

[troy]

Yeah, joe was a little more, say, articulate than Tony.

I hope Tony isn't black. I got in trouble by Herr Joe for the audacity of applying the adjective articulate to that amazing all-round asshole Obama.

And as much as many of us might wish, Joe isn't coming back. There'd be threads with 400+ posts going back to January shoving ever god damned stupid thing Obama did in Joe's face. Even Joe couldn't handle such an avalanche of shit.

[SugarFree]

Where would you rather live? In Gaza or the troposphere of a blue giant star??

[Troy]

Reasons why I want a daughter.

My daughter and I already have plans to go to Vegas for her 21st birthday. I can't wait.

[Pro Libertate]

SugarFree,

It depends. Do I have superpowers, including invulnerability?

[Abdul]

My daughter and I already have plans to go to Vegas for her 21st birthday. I can't wait.

Visit the local ACORN office and see if you can get a good price for her.

[!]

Where would you rather live? In Gaza or the troposphere of a blue giant star??

Gaza, it is closer to the IDF guys and gals who will protect me.

[Xeones]

troy, joe has come back recently -- twice, i think. Whenever Epi or anyone called him on, basically, his entire history on this site, his only response was to bitch about "changing the subject."

[Anonymous]

I think that this has relevence to the joe discussion. (Somebody interested might want to amend this entry to include that link.)

Excerpts:

I don't like the idea of a handful of rich, connected activists even thinking they have that sort of power over the Democratic Party. Then, I thought about Barack Obama's campaign setting so many fundraising records from small donors, and it hit me: this is a chance to make a stand, to really demonstrate that the Storming the Gate strategy can work.

"Death Panels": throw-away line, or crypto-theocracy?

Oh, and btw - the sole woman on the court was the justice who made the rest see how their own experiences in other circumstances are not directly applicable to the question of this search of this girl.

Overall, a pretty convincing thrashing of the arguments conservatives have been making about Sonia Sotomayor and the judicial process in general for the past month.

[TrickyVic]

But why is the right so upset about ACORN lying yet rarely have a problem when cops and prosecutors lie?

[!]

But why is the right so upset about ACORN lying yet rarely have a problem when cops and prosecutors lie?

True conservatives get upset about that too.

[Les]

True conservatives get upset about that too.

Too bad there are so few of them, then.

[!]

Too bad there are so few of them, then.

Yes, that is sad.

[TrickyVic]

"""True conservatives get upset about that too."""

I rarely see conservatives take the anti-LEO side. Even with all of Radley's reporting. They may fault policy written by the other team, but they rarely come out against bad police behavior.

[Troy]

Visit the local ACORN office and see if you can get a good price for her.

$100.00. Do I hear $100.00? $90.00? $80.00? Ok, how about $75.00 and I will throw in all my Starship CD's?

[Troy]

I think that this has relevence to the joe discussion. (Somebody interested might want to amend this entry to include that link.

There is a reason.wikia? Coolness!!! Who do I have to blow to get on that?

[J sub D]

I rarely see conservatives take the anti-LEO side. Even with all of Radley's reporting. They may fault policy written by the other team, but they rarely come out against bad police behavior.

John (commenter here at H&R) meets most definitions of a conservative (he's a GOPer w/ some libertarian leanings) and he is more than willing to call cop and DA illegal behaviors assholish and illegal.

[SugarFree]

Who do I have to blow to get on that?

Warty. So you may want to reconsider.

[!]

Warty. So you may want to reconsider.

Does he have to do the real experience or just the way you and Epi do it?

[SugarFree]

All I saying is that they call him Warty for a reason.

[Troy]

Warty. So you may want to reconsider.

You are right. Last time, it took like a week to get the fish taste out of my mouth.

[John]

Thank you J sub D.

[John]

All my neighbors are harmless suburban liberals. I talked to a lot of them about the incident in PG County where the cops shot the guy's dog. None of them supported the cops in that instance, but none of them seemed to bothered by it either. They all just kind of shrugged it off.

Honestly, my crazy redneck relatives in Kansas are the only people I know who have a real dislike of cops. Liberals, while not on the wrong side of the issue, seem all to often to be agnostic about it.

[!]

Of the last three presidents, wasn't the one who pretended to be a little connservative the only one who was not going to "put more cops on the streets?"

[hmm]

How odd, not really, that both Democrat Senators from Illinois voted not to stop funding.

[JB]

'God's Work' is now selling children into sexual slavery.

Maybe Joe left the board to go work for the Catholic church?