Ted Kennedy, R.I.P.
The New York Times is reporting that the influential, long-time senator has died of brain cancer. ABC has a list of accomplishments from his 46 years in the Senate, while Reuters puts his death in the context of the current health-care battle, which Kennedy called "the cause of my life." And The Boston Globe, in the midst of recounting the senator's outsize role in the last few decades of American politics, recalls his failed Presidential ambitions after a scandal involving a car accident:
Kennedy's White House aspirations may have doomed by his actions on the night that he drove off a bridge at Chappaquiddick Island and failed to promptly report the accident in which a woman died. When Kennedy nonetheless later sought to wrest the presidential nomination from an incumbent Democrat, Jimmy Carter, he failed in his quest. But that failure prompted him to reevaluate his place in history, and he dedicated himself to fulfilling his political agenda by other means, famously saying, "the dream shall never die."
CNN has a roundup of reactions from political notables, including Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Nancy Reagan, and Arnold Schwarzenegger, who is married to Kennedy's neice, Maria Shriver.
Ted Kennedy made frequent appearances in Reason: Nick Gillespie wrote about Kennedy's Serve America Act here, and examined about the evolution of the Kennedy clan here. Jesse Walker asked who killed the Kennedys here. Sam MacDonald wrote about the Patients' Bill of Rights, which Kennedy helped craft with John McCain, here.
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Easier said than done.
Hell of a way to go, but I won't pretend to miss him. His entire career was a disgrace to what's left of our republic.
-jcr
He lasted 40 years longer than Mary Jo Kopechne.
Jesse Walker asked who killed the Kennedys
Apparently, not enough of us....
how long until the "Kennedy memorial health bill"? any bets?
how long until the "Kennedy memorial health bill"? any bets?
Will it include tax-funded scuba tanks for campaign workers?
-jcr
At first but it might be eliminated in committee...
I've got to say, that I'm disgusted with the sycophantic drivel the commenters over on the NYT are spewing. Not one mention there of his victim.
-jcr
De mortuis nihil nisi bonum.
If you can't say ill of the dead in this case, you're just not trying hard enough...
I understand the need to be sensitive when his family is mourning, but his family won't be on Reason's blog.
He involuntarily killed somebody, tried to hide it, and still never paid for it. He stands for everything that is contrary to freedom and prosperity.
Surely, he will not be missed. I hope the same fate for his universal health care plan.
Good riddance.
From Stupid Grandson Theory
That's inspired.
He involuntarily killed somebody, tried to hide it, and still never paid for it. He stands for everything that is contrary to freedom and prosperity.
Surely, he will not be missed. I hope the same fate for his universal health care plan.
True dat. When I heard the news this morning, and all the endless drivel about "Camelot" (after 200+ years of independence, mass media sycophants still want to return to a monarchy!), I thought of that classic line that Jack Nicholson utters after the crime boss is electrocuted in the '89 Batman movie.
"I'm glad your dead! BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!"
I bet the Kopechne family is, too....
I'm glad he's kaput.
46 years in the Senate? Ted Kennedy was an indispensable man,...in his own fevered imagination. He was the opposite of an American Cincinnatus in all aspects.
There has already been talk about passing a health care bill for Kennedy, which is an asinine reason for passing such far reaching legislation. No man is bigger than the Republic.
One might think that Kennedy was dispatched in order to garner sympathy towards passage of the healthcare monstrosity.
If one were apt to conspiracy theories...
.....
.......
Or not...
...........(scary music)
Well, I guess it's time to break out the folk guitar
OWED TO MARY JO
Forty years done come 'n gone since we heard the news 'bout Mary Jo
and Brother Teddy's finally bought the farm while sycophants cry woe
There's a swine flu virus going 'round, but not that many died last Spring
And Obama doesn't seem to wanna deregulate much of anything
With no Teddy, he's trying to make his universal health care pitch
And everyone forgets the water off the Chappaquiddick Bridge...
Drunk fascist dead. Hagiography at 11.
If one were apt to conspiracy theories...
We'd wonder why folks close to the President buy the farm whenever he's in town. First Granny, now Teddy. Hmmmm ...
I can hear that in the key of d minor with the kind of Adirondack/Fall type of phrasing and feel. Adding in the Major 7th every now and again. Not so much for the true Harmonic Minor aspect but more for the higher tension and pleasing resolve.
So Obama's already implementing the death panels?
"the night that he drove off a bridge at Chappaquiddick Island and failed to promptly report the accident in which a woman died."
note the use of the passive voice regarding mjk's death. kennedy was a leech (as are all kennedys) with the kennedy sense of entitlement. if mass voters were too stupid to replace him, dying was the best thing he could do for the country.
hey, teddy, warm enough for you in your new digs?
I can think of no reason, from either a moral or political perspective, to wish that this man would "rest in peace."
The end of the Kennedy era
I gained a point in my dead pool.
can hear that in the key of d minor with the kind of Adirondack/Fall type of phrasing and feel. Adding in the Major 7th every now and again. Not so much for the true Harmonic Minor aspect but more for the higher tension and pleasing resolve.
Actually, I hear more of a post-Beatle McCartneyesque acoustic touch
This is the story 'bout a man named Ted
whose finally dead
from a messed-up head
Poor Ted.
He'd hope we'd forget
about the girl who drowned
at his vacation town
The oldsmobile went down
Big frown
Barry's now worried
'cause Teddy's not here
Backing him up on every left whim
Barry don't worry
'cause Teddy's clan's still here
taking good care of you
Uh-oh...Some guy named Bluto took my guitar and smashed it against the wall.
I'm just glad we did that brain surgery a few months ago! Could you imagine if we didn't do that?! I wouldn't have my new pool house!
Too bad for the future, though, because soon those end-of-life perks will be a thing of the past.
No man is bigger than the Republic.
Yeah, but if Teddy were any fatter, he would have been the exception.
He never paid his due for the Chappaquiddick incident, but he did work tirelessly for the causes he believed in. That deserves props, whether or not you agreed with him. R.I.P.
"He never paid his due for the Chappaquiddick incident, but he did work tirelessly for the causes he believed in. That deserves props, whether or not you agreed with him. R.I.P."
So did Hitler, Stalin, Napoleon, etc.
And yep, I Godwined this shit up propa'!
I'm glad Barack didn't see Kennedy yesterday or the day before while he vacations in the vicinity. The resulting Socialist Realism portrait of that meeting would have been disgusting.
I'm going to go counterintuitive on this one and say the Dems will use his passing as a way to kick the health bill down the road until they can seat their next stooge from Taxachussets.
I knew there was some sliminess from Chappaquidick, but upon hearing of Ted's demise I went and read the Wiki article on it. Holy shit that guy was a scumbag!
In the Kennedy Pantheon, if Roberto "Little Brother is Watching" and man-ho JFK are the filet mignon, Ted Kennedy is the revolting documentary on where beef comes from. Sayonara, prick...
Boo-hoo.....NOT!!!!
...Condolences to his family, but it's impossible for me to feel anything. I'm pretty sure the late Senator never "touched my life" in any way I can understand.
TheZeitgeist:
"I knew there was some sliminess from Chappaquidick, but upon hearing of Ted's demise I went and read the Wiki article on it. Holy shit that guy was a scumbag!"
Forget Wikipedia, here is the definitive Kennedy biography:
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Ted_Kennedy
"One might think that Kennedy was dispatched in order to garner sympathy towards passage of the healthcare monstrosity."
You mean someone slipped some tumor juice into his morning scotch & tonic?
Nevertheless, I wouldn't wish a slow, painful death on anyone*, even a politician.
*OK, there is an extremely select group of people who deserve slow, painful death, but not Kennedy IMO.
If there was an afterlife, I'm pretty sure I know which place most pols would go (hint!- not the place with the clouds). Imagine Ted Kennedy and Jesse Helms spending eternity kissing each other's bare ass.
I cheered when I read the news this morning.
The lion sleeps tonight.
WTF?! The man was personally responsible for the death of an innocent woman. This in itself should indicate not a "Rest in Peace" but a "good riddance".
What, hitting the bong a bit hard? Applying for a job with the NYTimes? Why in the fuck you would want this anti-Liberty piece of shit to do anything but rot in Hell?!!! Absolutely fucking pathetic!
he did work tirelessly for the causes he believed in. That deserves props, whether or not you agreed with him
Bullshit. He was dedicated to expanding the power of government under any pretext that he came across. He would have been a better man if he had been a dilettante.
-jcr
I'm glad Barack didn't see Kennedy yesterday or the day before while he vacations in the vicinity. The resulting Socialist Realism portrait of that meeting would have been disgusting.
Oh, that won't stop some drooling fanboy from painting Barry and Ted nude on a unicorn.
-jcr
His entire career was a disgrace to what's left of our republic.
Not his entire career. In a break with his usual statist inclinations, Kennedy was one of the driving forces behind airline deregulation.
I don't wish the worst for people.
Ted Kennedy was a homosexual.
I long for the day when Casey Serin joins Mr. Kennedy in Hell.
Marshall Gill | August 26, 2009, 8:03am | #
WTF?! The man was personally responsible for the death of an innocent woman
What woman? I've been watching the flowery eulogies on cable news for an hour, and nobody has yet mentioned her name.
So, does this mean that the Dead Kennedys can have a renunion tour?
"Oh, that won't stop some drooling fanboy from painting Barry and Ted nude on a unicorn.
-jcr"
+1
he did work tirelessly for the causes he believed in.
On today's to-do list: ask every liberal I meet to specify *one* thing that Ted did.
WTF?! The man was personally responsible for the death of an innocent woman. This in itself should indicate not a "Rest in Peace" but a "good riddance".
I've never liked Kennedy, but all the people who in the modern era spout nonsense about how Teddy never paid for his "crime" are just being silly.
The guy hid because he was panicked about the political embarassment arising from his accident. Not the legal liability. Because in the late 60's, the pre-MADD era, he faced virtually zero potential legal liability for drunk driving and getting in a car accident involving a fatality. He probably wouldn't even have lost his driver's license.
And all the REAL conspiracy nut stuff about how Kennedy pretended to have an accident in order to murder her - please. No son of Joe Kennedy would murder someone personally. Not when he could just hire it out the way his old man would have.
Also, if there's never been a better time to not watch the broadcast snews, this IS the time.
It's gonna be Dead Teddy 24x7 for about the next week or so. Get ready to to hear how wonderful he was and how we owe him a debt of gratitude. With the appropriately badly soundtracked and soft filtered retrospectives of course, filled with soft plinking muzak.
On today's to-do list: ask every liberal I meet to specify *one* thing that Ted did.
He helped George Bush pass No Child Left Behind, a massive increase in the power of the Federal government to interfere in local education decisions.
Remind the liberals of that. They HATE that.
Moments like this make it a grand time to go to snarky places like Wonkette and watch them immediately switch from mockery to fellating.
If he had public healthcare we would still have him today.
The Kennedys are having a rough month.
He kept his job where he attempted to inflict misery and suffering on all of us through his theft-based political agenda, though, didn't he? And we got to spend the next 40 years hearing what a "champion of the people" he was, didn't we? He didn't pay nearly enough for killing that girl.
My dad used to tell me why he hated Kennedy...back in the '60s or '70s, when the effective tax rate for the top earners in the country was about 90% (thanks to the Democrats) and a lot of people were moving from the U.S. so they could avoid those taxes, Kennedy tried to propose legislation to have them declared legally dead so the government could tax their assets.
"So, does this mean that the Dead Kennedys can have a renunion tour?"
Thread winner
America is a slightly better place today. Good riddance.
I woke up today and the sun was shining brighter, the birds singing more sweetly, and flowers were blooming brighter. Then I heard Ted joined the rest of the Krazy Kennedy Klan in Hell and I understood why.
Granted, what's one woman's life when compared to the good of The Collective? After all, the elite progressive few to have progressed further than us non-progressed cattle are so rare we must forgive them anything to keep them in power over us, to protect us from our own non-progressive stupidity.
May Ted spend eternity trapped in a car at the bottom of a lake of fire.
What Kyle said. Good fucking riddance. He was the epitome of everything that stinks in Washington.
What Kyle said. Good fucking riddance.
Can we spin that into an accusation of racism against you? 🙂
No son of Joe Kennedy would murder someone personally. Not when he could just hire it out the way his old man would have.
Teddy wasnt nearly as smart as his Dad or brothers.
The guy hid because he was panicked about the political embarassment arising from his accident. Not the legal liability. Because in the late 60's, the pre-MADD era, he faced virtually zero potential legal liability for drunk driving and getting in a car accident involving a fatality. He probably wouldn't even have lost his driver's license.
The way I read the summary of events, he was driving to some secluded place away from his yacht regatta party (man of the people!) in a cemetary (good Catholics cheat on their wives in cemetaries) to slip Mary Jo some Honey Fitz sausage, while drunk.
Some cop noticed the car, and he thought it made a bad turn because the driver was lost. When he pulled up to the car - from behind - the occupants of the vehicle noted his presence and sped off, and proceeded to attempt making an Oldsmobile into a boat (remember, it was a YACHT regatta party!).
Kennedy's own fear of being caught with his pants literally down motivated him to panic (while drunk) in his operation of the car as best I can tell, leading to the death of his night's lay. Cold but true. To do that, kill the woman as a result, and insist on mentioning in your canned lawyer-statement the following day that that's what you were NOT doing in the first place...it's pure scum.
Too bad Stern's on vacation this week. He does a great Ted Kennedy impression.
Teddy wasnt nearly as smart as his Dad or brothers.
Alcoholism has been known to have that effect.
-jcr
Too bad Stern's on vacation this week. He does a great Ted Kennedy impression.
Now so does Ed MacMahon.
Damn girl.
Non-union labor stole my comma.
I was listening to the Washington DC area WTOP on my way to work this morning. As part of the drivel on the latest Kennedy's death, some douche yapped on that after JFK was killed, LBJ used his death to build a coalition of Democrats and northern liberals to pass the civil rights act. Dumb fuck - the Republicans passed the Civil Rights act despite a majority of Democrats voting no.
JFK got an eternal flame. Can we get libertarians together to raised money to give Teddy a statue of a taxpayer eternally pissing on Teddy's grave?
Is that the new euphemism for IllegalImmigrant?
Can we spin that into an accusation of racism against you? 🙂
We'll take the niggers and the chinks, but no Irish.
Does that help?
It's amazing how much his health deteriorated, he was such a great athlete in his prime, most noted for swimming, running, and swimming...
I listened to the NPR Morning Edition story on ol' Ted, and they mentioned Mary Jo at least twice. They opened the piece with flowery language about his "accomplishments" in the Senate, yet interestingly neglected to name a single piece of legislation. Instead they featured Barney Frank telling of how powerful Teddy was, and how well-liked.
Similarly, the linked ABC list of "landmark legislation" is rather thin. His work on airline deregulation is strangely not included, though an "impassioned speech" on the Civil Rights Bill is counted amongst his landmark accomplishments.
This guy was a walking, drinking, bellowing example of why we need term limits.
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I heard the CIA gave him brain cancer.
If you can't say anything good about some one, don't say anything. He's dead... good.
He died to divert attention away from the craptastic healthcare bill. His final slimy move to further crappy legislation. The budget and CIA news wasn't doing enough to divert attention.
Someone had to make it a conspiracy.
You killed Uncle Teddy?!
How ironic that this blog is called "Hit and Run" and you've decided to become a Kennedy acolyte today. Give me a break - the man was a crook and a left-wing hack, Reason has no place paying him any deference, in life or death.
Not to get extra cold, well...actually to get extra cold, it would be totally pimp if Senator Byrd were to shuffle out of his mortal coil at this time.
It would just be sweet, sweet justice to see Obama have to take some time off the Kennedy Fellatio tour and - as the first black (well, kinda black anyways) President - pay some homage to the last Senator who was in the Klan...
Go donkey show!
Ted Kennedy: An inspiration to us all to be born into a politically wealthy family. Remember kids: if you're politically connected, quaint things like laws don't apply to you.
This scumbag actually tried to get the governor to change Mass. state law to allow him to appoint a stand in to vote for the healthcare bill. Fuck you, voters, you don't get a say in the matter, says good ole Teddy. The best part: the law he was trying to repeal was enacted in 2004 to keep Mitt Romney from selecting a Republican in the event that John Kerry won the presidency.
Good riddance, you corrupt, drunken good ole boy. I hope you're burning in your catholic hell right now.
From Teddy's "great" 1980 convention speech:
Finally, we cannot have a fair prosperity in isolation from a fair society....Let us insist on real controls over what doctors and hospitals can charge, and let us resolve that the state of a family's health shall never depend on the size of a family's wealth....
We can be proud that our Party stands for investment in safe energy, instead of a nuclear future that may threaten the future itself. We must not permit the neighborhoods of America to be permanently shadowed by the fear of another Three Mile Island.
The son of one the 20th Century's biggest scumbags: always looking out for the little guy.
Can we get libertarians together to raised money to give Teddy a statue of a taxpayer eternally pissing on Teddy's grave?
You set me up a salary and a constant supply of beer, and i'll do the honors. Yo, fuck Ted Kennedy.
They'll be dancing . . . dancing in the streets . . . .
If there were a god enemies of freedom like Kennedy and Don Hewitt wouldn't live so damned long. c-spans is doing a segment on him now and I can hardly hold down the vomit.
Kennedy's own fear of being caught with his pants literally down motivated him to panic (while drunk) in his operation of the car as best I can tell, leading to the death of his night's lay. Cold but true. To do that, kill the woman as a result, and insist on mentioning in your canned lawyer-statement the following day that that's what you were NOT doing in the first place...it's pure scum.
But Dem leadership has convinced me that I am the end result of thousands of years of human moral and intellectual 'progress' in supporting them. They make me feel like I'm a member of the cognitive elite, who the cattle need to protect them from their own stupidity. That feeds my ego, and what is the life of a mere woman compared to my left wing ego? Of course Teddy should be forgiven, for the good he did humanity. And by humanity, I mean my left wing ego.
I'm watching that now James. Luckily I won't have to watch it all day. They'll eventually go back to their scheduled stuff. The calls are quite grand today.
James Ard,
Only the good die young. That's why I should be here 5 billions years from now with the Sun expands to a red giant and consumes the shattered remains of my homeworld.
This scumbag actually tried to get the governor to change Mass. state law to allow him to appoint a stand in to vote for the healthcare bill. Fuck you, voters, you don't get a say in the matter, says good ole Teddy. The best part: the law he was trying to repeal was enacted in 2004 to keep Mitt Romney from selecting a Republican in the event that John Kerry won the presidency.
Yep, and if he had resigned months ago when it became apparent he was gravely ill and could no longer do his job, his replacement would be there now.
Now they have to wait five months, because Kennedy was the type of psychotic megalomaniac who thinks the universe and everything in it ceases to exist when he dies, so instead of acting like a normal human being, he had to hang onto power right until the Grim Reaper showed up.
Yep, and if he had resigned months ago when it became apparent he was gravely ill and could no longer do his job, his replacement would be there now.
Didn't you know that's a tradition of "liberal lions?" FDR, for some demented reason, ran for a fourth term, and we got we deserved because we elected him. The dementia-ridden moron held on just long enough to give Eastern Europe to Joe Stalin at Yalta before finally dying the next month.
And in another tradition of liberal lions, the geriatric ode to socialism died with...wait for it...his mistress. Tee-hee.
Ted Kennedy has been a cancer on the Senate for decades; what goes around, comes around.
I've never liked Kennedy, but all the people who in the modern era spout nonsense about how Teddy never paid for his "crime" are just being silly.
The guy hid because he was panicked about the political embarassment arising from his accident. Not the legal liability.
Science, Fluffy, I bolded it for you. I said he was personally responsible and didn't mention his "legal liability"or the word murder or any mention of Bobby and conspiracy.
The next time there is an article about cops beating the shit out of someone should I expect a post from you about their "legal liability"? Will you defend them for "panicking about their political embarrassment"?
Condolences to his family. I never liked him at all as a politician, and I never understood why people kept voting for him. Even in Massachusetts.
The lapdog media keep referring to Kennedy as a "liberal lion".
That is a load of crap. There is no such thing as a "liberal lion".
He was a liberal leech - just like all the rest of the liberals on earth.
Back to 59 . . . bitches!
I . . . er, uh . . . er, uh . . . I would just like to say that this woman is not my wife, but I am sleeping with her. And I'm . . . er, uh . . . comfortable with my womanizing.
The estate tax WILL come into play here, right?
Howls of derisive laughter...
We'll take the niggers and the chinks, but no Irish.
Does that help?
You meant to say "Micks", not Irish, right?
Gilbert,
You're implying that conservatives aren't parasites and that's just wrong.
Ted Kennedy was a lecherous lush with blood on his hands. The damage he did to this nation is incalculable. Good riddance you fat bastard.
That would be bigoted, so I doubt it. 😉
I'd say I felt bad about his death but I really don't. I almost celebrate it. When he wasn't busy being a degenerate and a murderer, he used his name and his status as an elitist prick to champion causes that have hurt this country. I say fuck him and if his grave was within walking distance of my house, I'd make sure I pissed on it! Anyone want to know how I really feel?
You meant to say "Micks", not Irish, right?
Soes I mis-remembered da line when I posted da udder day. Youse can't blame Ska for copyin mise mistake.
NBC refers to him as the "Lion of the Senate."
Time to tow this lion to the graveyard.
I almost said something inappropriate in the company cafeteria this morning when I saw the news crawl on the bottom of the TV screen.
Fortunately, I kept my celebration quietly inside my head.
Right now, the Presidential Suit is oozing platitudinous praise.
Shut the fuck up, Mister President.
when I saw the news I had a Nelson Munz moment. Ha ha.
I'm not a superstitious guy and don't believe in such things, but that brain tumor was the ghost of Mary Jo.
Soes I mis-remembered da line when I posted da udder day. Youse can't blame Ska for copyin mise mistake.
No, you got it right - the line is Irish. I believe Fred was just elaborating.
The estate tax WILL come into play here, right?
It will, on assets exceeding $3.5 mil at 45% (the highest exclusion amount and lowest rates since Bush's tax cuts); but if he held on until 2010 there would be no estate tax (unless the law changes before then, as is expected).
They haven't mentioned Ted's lack of driving abilities once on MSNBC over the past hour, its just a Kennedy Bukake party over there.
The lefties have to be careful I think on this. They really do believe that Everyone Loves Kennedy(ies) just like them. Their overindulgence in creating his hagiography could disconnect them and their health-grab even more from the popular perception.
If I hear "A Giant of the Senate" one more time, I'm going to find a dog to kick.
He was, more accurately, a midget among dwarves.
Ted Kennedy: Friend of the Working Man.
Give me a fucking break.
It's always easy to spend somebody else's money on the "downtrodden poor".
That fucker should be ground up for monkey chow.
No, you got it right - the line is Irish. I believe Fred was just elaborating.
Cool. Gettin old is da shits. I can never be sure what I remembers is real or not.
It will, on assets exceeding $3.5 mil at 45% (the highest exclusion amount and lowest rates since Bush's tax cuts); but if he held on until 2010 there would be no estate tax (unless the law changes before then, as is expected).
His dying before 2010 proves this superior morality as a man of the little people. He decided to die while the tax was in effect. All praise him.
Good riddance...to bad rubbish. Elitist coward lecher.
Is there a good MSM article comment section we could raid?
All this hagiographic coverage is going to make me ill. The Kennedys were and are a pestilence on our society. I'd be much happier seeing them all drop out of public life, though I don't wish death on anyone. Just retirement.
So is Ted the last (finally!) of Joe and Rose's spawn, or is there still a lobotomized sister chained to a dungeon wall somewhere?
Damn there's a lot of hate here.
Marshall,
I'm sorry for misinterpreting your post.
I'm seeing a lot of "Kennedy never had to pay for his crime at Chappaquiddick because of his family's power!" all over the place this morning and I thought you were one more of those.
My bad.
senator lyin
maudlin televised weeping
down elevator
Edna said:
"the night that he drove off a bridge at Chappaquiddick Island and failed to promptly report the accident in which a woman died."
note the use of the passive voice regarding mjk's death. kennedy was a leech (as are all kennedys) with the kennedy sense of entitlement. if mass voters were too stupid to replace him, dying was the best thing he could do for the country.
Sorry--can't help being a pedantic linguist here, but there is no 'passive voice' in this quote. 'drove, failed and died' are all PAST TENSES, which means the event happened before now. They are not PASSIVES, which often mean the event happened TO the subject. Cute thought, but doesn't work here.
That being said, I too fear the 'Kennedy Memorial Healthcare bill'
The winner is you!
At least Reason isn't deleting unflattering comments about The Ted:
http://meganmcardle.theatlantic.com/archives/2009/08/teddy_kennedy_rip.php#comment-254928
To quote poet Henley: "kick 'em when they're stiff, kick 'em all around".
Few deserve it more than Teddy.
You meant to say "Micks", not Irish, right?
That would be bigoted, so I doubt it. 😉
***
I worked with an Italian guy, years ago, who called himself "The Wop".
Was he guilty of self-bigotry? I'm just sayin'.
Oh, and... shut the fuck up, Tony.
I just want to thank Ted Kennedy for fixing healthcare, that is, making life a little easier for the middle class while screwing everyone else.
Damn, y'all. This is some shameful shit right here.
KT, Shameful? Truthful.
I cam here for an antidote to the claptrap being spewed everywhere about what a great person Kennedy was, and I am not disappointed. I wish Teddy had a journalistic nemesis like Hunter S. Thompson right now. Something on the order of Thompson's rant about Nixon after Tricky Dick died is what we need.
I wonder if Robert Byrd is aware of the incredible coincidence that occured on July 4, 1826?
C'mon, Bobby. Do the right thing.
I knew I could find it.
Something like this is what Teddy deserves.
From 6 years ago, the best piece of 21st Century liberal irony:
And that's the key. That's how you survive what he's survived. That's how you move forward, one step after another, even though your name is Edward Moore Kennedy. You work, always, as though your name were Edward Moore. If she had lived, Mary Jo Kopechne would be 62 years old. Through his tireless work as a legislator, Edward Kennedy would have brought comfort to her in her old age.
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/magazine/articles/2003/01/05/kennedy_unbound/?page=full
Kennedy never did an honest day's work his entire life.
"That fucker should be ground up for monkey chow."
Why do you hate monkeys?
Tough call. I wonder how he'd respond if some Mick called him a Wop.
"Sorry--can't help being a pedantic linguist here, but there is no 'passive voice' in this quote. 'drove, failed and died' are all PAST TENSES, which means the event happened before now. They are not PASSIVES, which often mean the event happened TO the subject. Cute thought, but doesn't work here."
Indeed, using the past tense and saying "Kopechne was killed" would have made Kennedy's guilt more, rather than less, emphasized. (The most blunt would have been "Kennedy killed her," but they never would have dared that.)
How ironic that this blog is called "Hit and Run"
Drink?
I think we should be glad he only killed one person. A lot of our "leaders" today and in recent memory are responsible for many more than that.
I'm not a superstitious guy and don't believe in such things, but that brain tumor was the ghost of Mary Jo.
More likely it was the ghost of that bourbon (or whatever) he liked to drink.
A little googling has turned up this Dick Armey piece (pdf) on cato.org. Seems HIPAA had "unintended consequences" as it was a Republican-led attempt at doing something (reminds me of NCLB) that ended up paving the way for future Democratic dominance of the health care issue, because of the deplorable state of health care in America (teh corporationz!):
It turned out that HIPAA did little to make insurance more portable,
but it did set a dangerous precedent for the federal regulation
of health insurance. We thought we were cracking down on Medicare
fraud. Instead, we turned doctors into criminal suspects, with armed
federal agents seizing their filing cabinets. We felt confident that we
had guaranteed medical privacy and paperless billing, but HIPAA
appears to have expanded bureaucrats' access to our medical records
without a search warrant.
And here's more Kenndy a-fixin' teh healthcare in 1973:
I'm sorry; I meant to write "passive voice," not "past tense." Sorry for the brain freeze that makes my comment gibberish. Let's try it again:
"Indeed, using the PASSIVE VOICE and saying 'Kopechne was killed' would have made Kennedy's guilt more, rather than less, emphasized. (The most blunt would have been 'Kennedy killed her,' but they never would have dared that.)"
If she had lived, Mary Jo Kopechne would be 62 years old. Through his tireless work as a legislator, Edward Kennedy would have brought comfort to her in her old age.
But he didn't, he killed her ass. No "ifs" or "would haves" about it. Its like saying Sally Hemmings and the kids woulda really dug on Thomas Jefferson's greatness except for that, you know, whole slave thing.
I wonder if the "GOD HATES FAGS" troupe will show up for Teddy's service?
Will Robert Byrd ever release his Civil War service records?
Will Robert Byrd ever release his Civil War service records?
Was West Virginia even a state when he was born?
Was West Virginia even a state when he was born?
It was still part of Virginia back then. He opposed the split, since the Confederacy was a more natural home for him.
I cam here for an antidote to the claptrap being spewed everywhere about what a great person Kennedy was, and I am not disappointed. I wish Teddy had a journalistic nemesis like Hunter S. Thompson right now. Something on the order of Thompson's rant about Nixon after Tricky Dick died is what we need.
I eagerly look forward to reading what Christopher Hitchens (never a fan of the Kennedys) has to say. He will almost certainly treat Uncle Teddy the way he deserves to be treated.
Was West Virginia even a state when he was born?
Ironically, West Virginia was the lump ripped off of Virginia by the north during the course of the Civil War. Since Byrd fought for the South, I would have to say he was a refugee at some point.
A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.
He will almost certainly treat Uncle Teddy the way he deserves to be treated.
Nope. Hitch failed us.
But who will be the second and third to go?
Please let one of them be Nancy Pelosi.
And please oh please let it be a Botox shot gone wrong.
Ted Kennedy made frequent appearances in Reason: Nick Gillespie wrote about Kennedy's Serve America Act here, and examined about the evolution of the Kennedy clan here. Jesse Walker asked who killed the Kennedys here. Sam MacDonald wrote about the Patients' Bill of Rights, which Kennedy helped craft with John McCain, here.
Nice way to shill for yourselves there guys. Shorter Suderman: "No criticism in this post of course, but do you mind if I like to some highly unflattering portraits of the Kennedys?"
Stay classy fellas.
The Democrats are, of course, using Kennedy's death to score political points. I see nothing wrong with this. I think it's what he would've wanted, after all.
as long as there are virgins of a certain age to consume, Sen. Byrd will continue to "live."
Stay classy fellas.
We're discussing Kennedys. Why would we need classy to talk about them?
as long as there are virgins of a certain age race to consume
The blacker the berry, the sweeter the juice.
as long as there are virgins of a certain age to consume, Sen. Byrd will continue to "live."
Its like a Weekend at Bernie's sequel in the halls of power in D.C.
Wanna vomit? Just make with the clicky.
Did you know you can see ted kennedy's head from the space station? True fact.
Wanna vomit? Just make with the clicky.
Holy shit, the comments there are golden.
"I can't even read the obituaries today because I just start sniffling and now my co-workers are looking at me getting teary-eyed in front of my computer."
"He did so much to promote women and other marginalized groups. "
"I don't cry over famous people. But when it came out that Teddy was diagnosed with brain cancer, I shed a tear."
"Wanna vomit? Just make with the clicky."
Jezebel comments are great. They really do only allow comments to be posted that agree with them. I posted on a picture of Zelaya's wife about the coup not really being a coup and it oddly enough never got posted. Either way, their tears are delicious.
"He did so much to promote women and other marginalized groups. "
Holy shit.
Now I feel like I have a brain tumor.
Man, I feel like Eric Cartman reading that thread.
"Mm, your tears are so yummy and sweet."
For a magazine called Reason...never mind, we already have a reason to drink.
Here's to hoping my local liquor store has gin marked down 50% on this historic occasion.
"He did so much to promote women and other marginalized groups."
Line of the day.
The classy way to respond, if someone asks you how you feel about the Liberal Lion's passing:
"It would be impossible for me to properly express my sorrow at Ted Kennedy's passing."
You might follow that up with:
"The benefits he's brought to our nation in his long career are immeasurable."
This advice is inspired by a funny email I read years ago about how to write an employment reference for someone who was in actuality a lousy employee. Sarcastic ambiguity can be so much fun!
Everytime I get depressed about the state of the world, along comes a feel good story like this to pick me up.
After checking out the comments over at jezebel via the clickey, a pattern seems to emerge.
There seems to be a psychological profile of women who normally are perceived as "strong" lefty, and feminist...who are total SUCKERS for the most baseless male pigs. Hillary and the Slickster, Liz and John Edwards (and baby makes three!) are a good pair of examples.
I've met a lot of "Kennedy Girls" like that. Kelly O'Donnell would've blown Teddy while the car sank based on her comments via MSNBC (er, KENNEDYVISION) this morning, just a sucker for a pig. I don't get it. I bet Rachel Maddow would go all temp-hasbian just for a five minute tryst with a Kennedy...even TED Kennedy. Yuck.
Have they sobered up the kid and stuck him in front of the cameras, yet?
I read years ago that Mary Joe K was passed out in the car in which Teddy and some floozy left the party. When he drove off the bridge he and the lady got out of the car and walked back to the party, wet but laughing about it. Turned out Mary Joe wasn't missed until later.
I'm not sure if this makes me feel better about him or worse.
Draco: the subtlety is awesome.
oddly it also sounds like the hyperbole that journalists/political class types invariably spew. weird.
I've met a lot of "Kennedy Girls" like that. Kelly O'Donnell would've blown Teddy while the car sank based on her comments via MSNBC (er, KENNEDYVISION) this morning, just a sucker for a pig. I don't get it. I bet Rachel Maddow would go all temp-hasbian just for a five minute tryst with a Kennedy...even TED Kennedy. Yuck.
Alchies don't care that they're drinking the cheap stuff, it's just enough that they have something to drink.
justanothetlibetalLeech | August 26, 2009, 10:27am | #
Damn there's a lot of hate here.
That is liberalese for, 'The truth hurts like a motherfucker.'
That is liberalese for, 'The truth hurts like a motherfucker.'
The light, it burns!
I knew better, SF, but now I'm going to need a new keyboard. Brandybuck, not only is he gone, we get another opportunity to watch the press go insane over a Kennedy death. Dan Rather was priceless after Jr. crashed the plane.
I never realized how charitable Edward Kennedy was as a man. From that jezebel.com thread:
NefariousNewt
11:17 AM
@dreamweave: I think that his bending down, to pick up the most downtrodden American, is his real legacy. He was part of privilege, but he recognized the cost of his privilege as being made off the backs of honest and decent Americans everywhere. He wanted to repay the American people for all that they had given his family. It is that kind of admirable sentiment, that it is expected for those better off to give back to those who are not, that is missing from the current "debate" in this country.
Oh, never mind. Charitable with other people's money. Forgot the kind of people we are talking about here.
In the old feudal days, the lord was expected to do his duty for his subjects. When he wasn't making them work in the fields, fight his battles, live like scum, and so on.
Can you people not find anything nice to say at all about this man? No?
Yeah, me either. Thanks for the laughs.
I never realized how charitable Edward Kennedy was as a man.
Kennedy could do some good; in an oversized, excessive sort of way. When I was stationed overseas my buddy, a chief warrant officer had a relatively minor problem and need help from someone in a Pentagon personnel office. He calls Washington, but for some reason the number he called or misdialed is Kennedy's personal office phone number. My buddy tries to hang-up, but Kennedy asks him to tell him his problem. The next day, an Air Force General calls my buddy and sees to it that his minor problem is taken care of - a model of government efficiency - a General to do an E-4's job because a Senator told him to do it.
What this little tale tells is that government health care will not be rationed by who needs the care the most, but by who you know - or happen to accidently call - what ever the case maybe.
Review the ancient Roman patron-client system. As illustrated in The Godfather novel.
Cancer ate his brain like a big pacman! I hope that it was more painful than drowning in cold water!
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