Banned for Life
The Guardian reports that those Iranian soccer players sporting green wristbands in solidarity with opposition protesters will be banned from professional play for life. A fate slightly better than that which befell Iraqi players under the sociopathic Uday Hussein. As New York Times correspondent John Burns wrote in 2003, Uday was a rather harsh critic of his team members:
After drawing or losing games, players were punished. A missed penalty or other poor play entailed a ritual head shaving at the Stadium of the People, or being spat on by Uday's bodyguards.
A series of poor passes, carefully counted, could result in a player's being forced to stand before the president's son in the dressing room, hands at his side, while he was punched or slapped in the face an equal number of times.
But those were the lesser miseries. Some players endured long periods in a military prison, beaten on their backs with electric cables until blood flowed. Other punishments included "matches" kicking concrete balls around the prison yard in 130-degree heat, and 12-hour sessions of push-ups, sprints and other fitness drills, wearing heavy military fatigues and boots.
The Guardian on the fate of the Iranian team:
According to the pro-government newspaper Iran, four players – Ali Karimi, 31, Mehdi Mahdavikia, 32, Hosein Ka'abi, 24 and Vahid Hashemian, 32 – have been "retired" from the sport after their gesture in last Wednesday's match against South Korea in Seoul.
They were among six players who took to the field wearing wristbands in the colour of the defeated opposition candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi, which has been adopted by demonstrators who believe the 12 June election was stolen.
Most of the players obeyed instructions to remove the armwear at half-time, but Mahdavikia wore his green captain's armband for the entire match. The four are also said to have been banned from giving media interviews.
The fate of the other two players who wore the wristbands is unknown. None of the team members were given back their passports upon returning to Tehran after the match, which ended in a 1-1 draw – a result that ended Iran's hopes of qualifying for next year's tournament.
Karimi is one of Iranian football's best-known stars, having played for the German club Bayern Munich. Ka'abi played for Leicester City for several months during the 2007/8 season. Hashemian and Mahdavikia play for the German teams Bochum and Eintracht Frankfurt.
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"Uday Hussein"
Thank Allah this piece of shit is dead.
Will this keep them out of the Hall of Fame?
I mean Its bad
but..
Wrexham FC do kind of need a manager like Uday
I'm not saying we should kill them
but hey a little bit of water boarding and man I swear we'd be back in the professional league
It really is humiliating being in the Blue square league
I mean really that league is so bad Santanta just went went bust
Uday was a rather harsh critic
That sadistic bastard did not deserve what he got. He deserved much, much worse. Too bad the troops couldn't deliver him alive to the families of his victims.
Cricket now thats a sport
its the other way round
they murder the manager if he doesn't do well
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/mar/25/cricket.sport
"That sadistic bastard did not deserve what he got. He deserved much, much worse. Too bad the troops couldn't deliver him alive to the families of his victims."
but you have to admit he had some balls
I mean what was it?
him versus a whole bunch of Americunts and he took a load of them out
you have to admit that man had balls
and that he could probably turn a lower league team around
I'm not saying he could have been an Alex Ferguson
but he definitely had some motivational skills
None of the team members were given back their passports
None of the Iranian team members was given back his passport.
There you go. Don't let it happen again. We know where you live.
At least they weren't shot?
Did Uday actually kill any American troops?
If my memory is correct, The American troops shot up the house he was holed up in with anti-tank rockets until he and his party stopped shooting and then entered the house. Only his nephew had survived the attack and was killed when he tried to shoot American soldiers coming up the stairs towards the room they were barricaded in.
Did Uday actually kill any American troops?
In his wet dreams.
FAIL, Grammar Mullah. None can be considered either singular or plural, and the latter is more common.
Iranians can get asylum and come play for MLS!
"At least they weren't shot?"
I mean
its bad but you do kind of need some kind of incentive to win a game
these third world countries they haven't got a lot of cash so maybe the fear of a firing squad
It might help
I'm not saying its right or lives up to some kind of utilitarian ideal but
football (*) is football
(*) that game Americunts call football clearly isnt
Football is played with your feet
what Americunts call football is rugby
but its a kind of uber-gay rugby
a long time ago
Americunts were so scared of rugby that they gayed out and decided that it was such a dangerous sport that it should only be played with gaybo pads etc
Rugby is a ubergay sport
invented by ubergay upper class people
but man NFL is like a game of people who are too gay to play a sport invented by gaybos properly
"None" means "not one" Mr. Gacy.
Go back two steps and say five Hail Mohammeds.
Wrong, Grammar Mullah. That may be the etymological source of the word. Look it up, though. In its modern form, it is acceptable, and really more correct, to consider it plural.
none
is very close to the word nonce
@Grammar Mullah
None of your English teachers were very good, apparently.
Here, I looked it up for you. Notice that it dates back to some time before the 12th century. Somehow, in the last 1000 years, it usage seems to have changed just slightly.
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None
pronoun 1. no one; not one: None of the members is going.
Thanks for proving my point, AGH.
Note that all of the banned players were in their 30's, guess that that they don't want to lose their players that are in their prime.
In its modern form, it is acceptable
For wimps, JW. Like "their" has become an "acceptable" substitute for the male pronoun?
I will never surrender! Where's my cigar?
"pronoun 1. no one; not one: None of the members is going."
"None of the members are going." would be better, or "Not one of the members is going."
(*) that game Americunts call football clearly isnt
Football is played with your feet
Who the fuck cares what a sport is called? It's an arbitrary name that often attaches for historical reasons. I just don't get the incessant whining from soccer fans about how "football is played with your feet" as if there's some platonic ideal form of a sport. I swear the typical soccer fan is even more of a whiny bitch than the typical soccer player. You know, the guys who you see at least 15 times a match rolling around on the ground grimacing in apparent life-threatening agony only to be up and running at full speed 30 seconds after their cry-baby antics have failed to draw a call from the ref?
Just get over it and accept that different countries can have different names for the same sport for various historical reasons. It's really not that hard.
The various footballs get their name because you play on your feet, i.e., not on horseback. I.e., it's played by commoners. You idiot.
Taking Bundesliga players hostage because they wore some wristbands is a great way to show the world what a legitimate democracy you are.
I went to a polo match in Santa Barbara, once. Our needs were met by liveried servants, and the common folk were kept most assuredly off the premises. Yes, even the servants were old money.
Unfortunately, FIFA is too fucking gutless to impose sanctions on Iran's FA for allowing political strongarming of the government to run sporting affairs.
It would be pretty cool if all the semifinalists (Spain, Brazil, S. Africa and the US) in the Confederations Cup wore green wristbands in solidarity, but FIFA would find a way to consider THAT an untoward display of politics in the game.
On another note - not that I'm expecting a win - how awesome would it be for the US to reach the final after finally pulling their heads out of their asses in one of the toughest groups I've even seen in a tournament employing group play?
Also, Warty, well said. It needs to be repeated to the asshole-ish zealots among us soccer fans that "football" doesn't mean what they think it means. This includes a fair bit of the English-speaking, Euro-smug world. On the other hand, even as an American, I find it fairly natural to call it "soccer" and "football" interchangeably.
Anyway, it's especially interesting in that "soccer" is a word created by mid-19th century English schoolchildren, yet they keep claiming that it's some American bastardization of the sport (tell that to Australia, Ireland, New Zealand, South Africa, Japan, etc.)
Timon19,
If I didn't already know that the USMNT were small fish, I'd think that there were suitcases full of money involved.
But of course, we ll know that Italy are beyond such things as bribery, right?
heh, I keed. Spain will beat the US. "Class will out" as they say.
Come to think of it, maybe soccer players should just stick to playing soccer.
Oh, I'm about 90% certain that Spain will win by 2 clear goals. But what happened Sunday is why they play the games.
If there were malfeasance involved, then why did the referee send off Rico Clark for an incredibly soft, easy yellow at midfield on his first challenge of the game, then not call a massively obvious penalty against the Italians in the second half. And why did an American (Guiseppe Rossi, born in New Jersey) end up scoring 2 goals for his father's homeland?
Italy just got lazy. They finally started fast (with help from the referee) for the first time ever, then laid a massive egg against Egypt. Each non-Brazilian team in that group played an atrocious game. Italy simply didn't score enough goals.
"him versus a whole bunch of Americunts and he took a load of them out"
Usually, he was taking on 12-year-old girls. And at the moment, he's taking Satan up the ass.
Also, I don't know if being legitimately in the top 20 in the world is being a "small fish".
They're not a top 10 side. That much is clear. But they certainly don't suck. They're actually pretty damn good, but for some reason, no one, either American fan or European fan, seems to be able to come to that conclusion due to a whole set of preconceived notions.
...chronic disappointment? The fact that the only quality team they can beat with any regularity is Mexico?
Well, considering that the only quality opponent they even get to play "with any regularity" is, indeed, Mexico (and who else?), I'd say you just stumbled upon a feedback loop of sorts.
Because of geography, the international calendar and a few other factors (money for both the US and Mexican FAs, primarily), is it any surprise that we play our southern neighbor so often and not, say, Brazil (who has their own priorities, and a fucking punishing qualifying campaign)?
Iran is an evil regime. I don't want to have a war with them, but we should make it our point to to be a thorn in their side as long as they continue to be the tyrannical buttheads that they are...
*When I say "Iran" I mean those in power, I'm sure the people are mostly just fine...
How do we make this Obama's fault?
Lovely, take it out on the soccer players! Makes perfect sense to me. NOT!
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I also haven't been following as much since the last World Cup, so my bad. After checking, I see the results against middling European teams have gotten much better (e.g., beating Sweden, Poland). Seemed like every time we used to play Switzerland, Belgium, Finland, et.al., they would pants us.
Piss off the boss and get shitcanned. Right or wrong they spoke out and took the hit for it. Now go get an AK and start killing goofy government fuckers on motorcycles.
The USMNT gets a bad rap because:
1. Most Americans care little for soccer.
2. The USMNT rarely beats known quality teams except for Mexico, and then only in America.
3. In international play, the USMNT and MLS clubs shit the bed.
Last time I checked Jeonju isn't in the US .
Also, MLS clubs have a won a couple of CONCACAF Champions Cups and seem to be holding their own in the SuperLiga (and the Galaxy seem to do ok in the Pan-Pacific Championship). I'm not saying they're awesome or anything, but shitting the bed is a bit much.
Also, by international play for the USMNT, do you count the Gold Cup in that? We've won the last two.
It was my very own hometown team DC United that won both the CONCACAF Chammpions cup and the Copa Interamericana. Very exciting stuff. Unfortunately, MLS teams have not done as well since then and it has been ten years.
US Soccer doesn't throw around the kind of money that an Italy or even a Brazil can. That's all I meant by "small fish". Of course, look at the teams that the players come from and you are back to seeing USMNT as small fish on the field as well. If anything, it is amazing that they do so well.
It's great that the US has won the Gold Cup a few times, it really is, but we are talking about the CONCACAF here. Right now Costa Rica is doing better than us in World Cup qualifying. I won't dismiss CR players, but that is not a very big country.
Oh, and the Superliga is just not a serious thing. It's basically a series of exhibition games with a cash prize thrown in to make things interesting.
oh my god, I hereby nominate this comments section for the "Most Boring Thread EVAR" award.
Mk, true on lack of success in the Champions Cup, but the MLS teams usually do make it past the quarterfinal stage into the semis, where unfortunately the Mexican clubs usually take them out. And in the Champions League, Houston Dynamo finished second in their group (I won't mention how DC fared 😉 ). Again, I'm not saying MLS is the pride of CONCACAF, but they aren't a joke either.
Here's the thing though, we used to be one of the weak teams in CONCACAF. Winning it two straight years in a row is a testament to how much the program has grown post-1989 (BTW, Paul Caligiuri should be getting a BJ a week for life from the USSF and MLS for his goal against T & T). CONCACAF isn't UEFA, but we have to become the best in our region before we can think about winning a World Cup.
Did someone make TAO read this thread? Hmm...
Costa Rica is doing quite a bit better than EVERYONE this time around...so far. They've also had the most games in that hellhole of a stadium in San Jose. If you'll notice, home field advantage plays a massive factor in CONCACAF, more so than most regions - and the US over the last 3 or 4 cycles has had the best home record in qualifiers, which is saying something. Road teams simply don't win all that often - period.
And is it really any surprise that the Mexican teams still beat the MLS teams in club competition? I mean, the MFL is one of the top 10 richest leagues in the world (and it may be close to top 5). There's an absolute fuckload of money in the Mexican game.
Contrast that with the peanuts MLS is dealing with (but getting better all the time), and it's amazing that we do as well as we do. Hell, our rosters CAN'T have more than 23 players this year. NO team can function in multiple competitions, playing up to 50 matches a season, with that shallow of a squad.
I think beating Mexico in an elimination game in a World Cup in Korea is a pretty significant sign of our relative abilities. When was the last time Mexico won in the US in anything remotely meaningful?
Answer: 1998, not long after we got our first point in the Azteca.
(Don't forget, we also beat those fuckers on penalties on the way to finishing 4th in the Copa America in Uruguay [most definitely not in the US])
nope, no one made me read it. I do it as a service to others, kind of like a movie critic.
Boringest. Thread. Ever.
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I know this thread is long dead, but...
HOLY JESUS FUCKING CHRIST!!!
Dos a Cero to the US over SPAIN!!
Dear Lord, that was incredible!
"Oh, I'm about 90% certain that Spain will win by 2 clear goals"
haha
utterly shocked!
It was truly an amazing performance. Up until the first goal, the US really was taking it to Spain.
I guess the 10% finally won out!
Given their mediocre performance against Brazil and Italy, I would not have guessed they would pull off such an impressive win. I should really start paying attention again.
Well shut my mouth.
Thing is, they didn't really play that bad against Italy. They fully deserved the first goal and the lead at the half, despite playing a man down for the last 15 minutes.
They ran out of gas, and it still took a wonder strike from American-born Rossi coming from the position where Clark would have been to tie it up.
The third goal came in garbage time when the US was stretched pushing for the equalizer. Despite all this, the US had a great chance to equalize and were basically robbed of a 2nd penalty by the usual shitty refereeing.
Were it not for the absolutely ridiculous red card on Clark's first real tackle of the game, that game is totally different.
Now their performance against Brazil was utter shit.
I know this thread is long dead, but...
HOLY JESUS FUCKING CHRIST!!!
Dos a Cero to the US over SPAIN!!
Dear Lord, that was incredible!
Lemme add: That was FUCKING AWESOME!!!! Everyone single player on the US team gave it their fucking all.
Dos a Cero!! ::clap, clap, clap, clap::: Dos a Cero!!
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