Open Thread and Weekend Bonus Links: Imaginary Arms, Peep Dioramas, and an Amusing Story of Fecal Contamination

• The VA has returned reporter David Schultz's audio equipment, and says the department "regrets the incident."
• The winners of the Washington Post's annual Peeps Diorama Competition.
• Jacksonville police detective who also provides security detail for a local megachurch subpoenaed Google to uncover the identity of an anonymous blogger who has been critical of the church's pastor.
• Great headline: Woman has developed an imaginary, but useful, third arm.
• State environmental agency spends ten years investigating fecal contamination of local creek, discovers its own sewer pipe is part of the problem.
• Former Reagan administration official Bruce Fein–who called for the impeachment of Bush and Cheney–says Obama's positions on executive power are even worse.

Comments

[NCDan]

This is the best single political cartoon I've seen on this subject. Hope you all enjoy it.

http://i.somethingawful.com/u/petey/comedygoldmine/2009a/march/deephurting/a1pics/editorial_20090212.jpg

Just cut and paste the link into you browser's window.

[Brian Sorgatz]

If only that woman could use her extra arm to punch Obama in the nose.

[Dagny T.]

Rich also wants to know why Hinson revealed his name to the church despite finding no wrongdoing.

Good question.

Yo, fuck the Jacksonville po-po.

[J sub D]

Open Thread and Weekend Bonus Links:

What a great idea!
Somebody should have thought of it earlier. 😉

[Kolohe]

State environmental agency spends ten years investigating fecal contamination of local creek, discovers its own sewer pipe is part of the problem.

Well, shit.

[Naga Sadow]

Open weekend thread is back? Sweet!

[Naga Sadow]

The enviromental story isn't there but the comments can be viewed. Interesting just to read em'.

[J sub D]

My late wife and a friend once took a few boxes of peeps, took a bit out of each one and stuck the remainder onto another friend's car.

Peeps may have myriad uses, but even as a five year old I knew than consumption wasn't one of them.

[anarch]

So long as the lady with the phantom limb shows that bearing arms is necessary to the security of a free State...

[J sub D]

Right Hand, I'd like to introduce you to Left Hand.

Millions of dollars worth of work associated with the new baseball stadiums for the Yankees and Mets was performed by companies that New York City avoids doing business with because of prior allegations of corruption and ties to organized crime.
...
Two of the three contractors, Petrocelli and Interstate, were not paid with city funds. But both the ballpark projects were overseen by the New York City Economic Development Corporation and together received roughly $2 billion in public subsidies.

[anon]

Can this woman...pleasure herself with her third arm? It really is important scientifically.

Here's what I've been doing this weekend!:

"In the contextual fear condition, we will lesion the hippocampus in one test group, leaving the dorsal striatum intact. In the other test group in this condition, the dorsal striatum will be lesioned while the hippocampus is left intact. In the cued (tone-->shock) fear condition, the same is done, leaving two groups with either the hippocampus or dorsal striatum (but not both) lesioned compared to the controls. We then train these groups in either a contextual-fear or a cued-fear manner. To do this we condition them either to a specific environment where we shock them into conditioned contextual fear, or we classically condition them with tone-shock pairings. We subsequently measure their fear-conditioned responses, which here will be the amount of time spent freezing by the rats, a behavior which is a reliable bio-genetic response to aversive stimuli. Hopefully, this will help illustrate which regions are important in which function. "

God bless double dissociations!

Fuck my psych class.

[kevrob]

The first thing that came to my mind, as well as a Boing! Boing! commenter's, was Gil hamilton, by Niven.

Kevin

[Dagny T.]

Right Hand, I'd like to introduce you to Left Hand.

Yeah, what's so special about this 3-handed woman? Ain't got nothing on the many-tentacled monstrosity that is NY bureaucracy.

[raivo pommer-www.google.ee]

raivo pommer-www.google.ee
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EUROPE

German industrial production has suffered its biggest annual fall since the country's reunification in 1990, leading a slump across the eurozone as manufacturers bear the brunt of the recession.

Output fell by 23.2% in February from a year ago, following an annual decline of 21.4% in January, according to figures from the economy ministry.

From Greece to Finland, production fell in countries across the 16-member euro area and showed little sign of picking up any time soon, dealing a blow to recovery hopes. Italy's output fell by 20.7% - its steepest drop since the statistics began in 1990. It has been in recession since spring last year.

The figures followed hints from the European Central Bank president, Jean-Claude Trichet, that eurozone rates could be cut from 1.25% to 1% in May.

German production fell by 2.9% from a month ago - the sixth month of declines - following January's 6.1% slump. The recent collapse in orders points to further weakness in coming months, the economy ministry said.

The German economy, the biggest in Europe, contracted by 2.1% in the last three months of last year - its worst quarter since reunification. The industrial figures suggest an even sharper decline in the first three months of this year.

[Bronwyn]

O common, raivo. It's the weekend. Give the spam a rest.

[BlueBook]

Open weekend threads are hawt. The third arm reminds me of the stories in The Man Who Mistook His Wife For A Hat.

[Episiarch]

Herr Pommer wins the thread.

Former Reagan administration official Bruce Fein-who called for the impeachment of Bush and Cheney-says Obama's positions on executive power are even worse.

Thanks for nothing, GOP. You stupid fucks cheered on your guy getting too much power, as if the Presidency would never change hands. What's the only thing worse than the President? The next President.

[cuernimus]

This is my favorite peep related link ever; the conclusion is especially hilarious.

And NCDan, that cartoon is awesome, thanks.

[Brandybuck]

Wow, talk about a whipping boy! Now the GOP is even getting blamed for Obama! I wonder what part of Rove's devious brain thought of that atrocity.

[the innominate one]

obviously, the woman with the 3rd arm has been blessed by the Flying Spaghetti Monster. he has given her one of his many noodley appendages. praise be!

[the innominate one]

oh, and I want Mrs. Cottontail (= FrBunny) to know I'm thinking of her while I watch Zack and Miri Make a Porno, written and directed by the auteur Kevin Smith

[Jerry]

Ugh, now Reason mag wants me to keep drinking during the weekends. I don't think my doctor approves of that.

[Orange Line Special]

Here's some interesting things:

* My tea party coverage.

* A few days ago, Dick Morris said Obama created a "global economic government".

* And, for something funny, is Michelle Obama sending a secret message to the Dem/libertarian base?

[Elemenope]

Epi, how 'bout that T:SCC finale?

[the innominate one]

This one's foryou, LoneWackOff

[Suki]

Everybody is listening to Tammy Bruce right now, like me, right?

[Fist of Etiquette]

The Washington Office of Bureaucratic Tree-Huggers fixed their link; Reason should fix its.

[Hugh Akston]

noname already got it but you can't say it enough.

Shut the fuck up, LoneWhacko!

[Nick]

Third arm. Bah! My third leg has had an imagination all it's own for years.

Democrats are good people. Why can't you be content to live with good government for a Hope? I'm sick of depressing stories. I bet you never write about Al Gore saving polar bears.

Shut the fuck up, LoneWhacko! If I didn't want communism, I wouldn't have voted for a communist.

Now everybody's doin' it. I need a new gimmick to separate me from the lame impostors.

#

Bring it on bitches............

10...9...8...7...6...5...4..3...2...1...

[Anonymous]

You fuckers are just trying to ruin it, aren't you?

Also: I nominated "State environmental agency spends ten years investigating fecal contamination of local creek, discovers its own sewer pipe is part of the problem." as H&R's new tag line. All in favor post banalities, all opposed limp-wristedly protest the banalities by pointing out that government really does have a reason to be in that business but that it just went too far.

[hmm]

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aL0jFzKptwwg

"April 2 (Bloomberg) -- Harvard Business School, stung by criticism that it hasn't prepared alumni to cope with the economic meltdown, will dissect its performance using a practice it employs to examine corporations in crisis. "

The first paragraph says it all. Failed group intends to use those that may have helped teach failure and the methods that may have perpetuated failure to examine the reasons for failure. Classic palm on forehead.

In other news Wharton, Stanford, and MIT laugh their asses off.

Question:
How do you quote and link here. I fail at the internet.

[robc]

kevrob,

Ditto. Although Gil could reach thru solid objects. And lift cigarettes and shot glasses.

[Art-P.O.G.]

Ugh, now Reason mag wants me to keep drinking during the weekends

Revealing. I only used to drink on the weekends. Ah, well, acknowledgement is the first step to recovery, or something.

P.S. Playing the drinking games at work is the shit!

[Art-P.O.G.]

hmm,

Just google "HTML tutorial" or something.

[P Brooks]

"We became concerned enough to ask law enforcement, 'Is there the ability to find out where this is coming from?' " Blount said.

Why didn't he just ask JEEEEZISS?

What a bunch of fucking loathesome scumbags.

[P Brooks]

My idea for a Peeps diorama: a group of Peeps "aggressively interrogating" a chocolate bunny.

[VM]

the innominate one | April 11, 2009, 5:55pm | #
obviously, the woman with the 3rd arm has been blessed by the Flying Spaghetti Monster. he has given her one of his many noodley appendages. praise be!

4:12 says it all...

[BakedPenguin]

P Brooks, in addition to the peeps using "enhanced coercive interrogation techniques" on the bunny, you could have a peep prosecutor withholding exculpatory evidence, and a peep medical examiner manufacturing bite marks on a peep victim. Round out the diorama with the whole set.

[JLM]

I don't know whether to laugh or cry about the Obama admin's approach to the state secrets issue. On one hand, everybody that spent the last year worshipping every shit that the messiah took like it was a pot of gold completely deserves this. You can all choke on your "hope and change". By the way, your messiah is in the process of escalating one of our hopeless wars in the middle east, and just went to the plate for another emergency spending request. I hope this opens some eyes.

On the other hand, I have to live with it too. This was one of the few things that I thought he might be a little better on that the last idiot. Fuck me too, I guess.

[hmm]

It won't open any eyes for a lot of people. Remember this is still Bush's fault. He has managed to not own a single thing since Jan. 20th. The one thing he is starting to own is the market turn around. Of course that came after a week or two of cautious waffling. He will own the successes and denounce the failures and questionable moves as responses to Bush for the next year and the troglodytes will swallow it.

(this isn't to say Bush didn't screw enough shit up, but once you buy the house and change the wallpaper, it's yours not the former owners)

[hmm]

Third arm lady has a career in Japanese tentacle porn ahead of her.

[P Brooks]

What the hell- we should probably include a Peeps SWAT raid, complete with dead pets (what sort of pets do Easter Bunnies have?), and handcuffed baby chocolate bunnies, awaiting the arrival of Child Protective Services, face down on the floor.

[..]

Open weekend thread is back? Sweet!

Chatroom quality so far. Maybe more is less.

[BakedPenguin]

Yeah, Lonewacko, no one here has insulted Mexicans at all. I can see why that would bring you down. Here's an idea: why don't you fuck off and go to Michelle Malkin's blog, where your bullshit about Atlzan and Obama's missing birth certificate will be given a (far too) credulous welcome.

[Taktix?]

The one thing he is starting to own is the market turn around.

Is it just me, or are do all incoming presidents face the last guy's "recesssion?" when in office.

Obama has the Bush recession, Bush had the Clinton recession, Clinton had the Bush I recession, don't know about 1988, and Reagan had the Carter near-collapse.

With the exception of 1980, all started between 4-6 months before the new POTUS, and all ended about 4-6 months afterward.

Could the downturn be attibuted to the markets' fears of a soon-changing business environment? Are downturns beneficial to a new administration in office?

I would try to claim it's all an illuminati scheme to get certain people elected, but I know better...

[..]

Is it just me

Yes and no.

[raivo pommer-www.google.ee]

raivopommer-www.google.ee
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OIL IRAQ

With security in Iraq improving, international oil companies are quickly moving in, often with little or no fanfare. Hanter Gasser, Royal Dutch Shell's (RDS) top executive for Iraq, recently spent a week in Basra, site of the country's biggest fields, checking on a joint venture Shell is starting with the Iraqis to find commercial uses for the gas that is flared off during oil production. Gasser says Iraq burns off enough gas to power two countries the size of Jordan.

Iraqi police officers protecting oil installations north of Basra.
Shell is one of about 30 oil companies, including ExxonMobil, Chevron, and BP, that are pursuing licensing agreements with Baghdad. Iraq intends to boost production in seven fields holding an estimated 44 billion barrels of reserves, more than a third of its total. Those agreements are supposed to be awarded in a few months. "We have high interest in Iraq, and we are waiting to see the terms," Gasser says. Iraqi oil production, at a low 2.5 million barrels a day, is just where it was before the war. If Iraq produced anywhere near its targeted 6 million barrels a day, it could change the industry's dynamics and curb talk of a looming shortage.

[Naga Sadow]

I don't know who or what this Raivo guy is all about but . . . he is funny. No point, just a random paragraph cut and pasted on the thread. He could be one of the greatest trolls ever. I don't even have a put down for him. Truly, a soon to be legend on these here intertubez.

[Silentz]

You read his posts Naga?

Usually if I see a wall of text posted by a non-regular, I don't even bother. It's usually spam. If not, someone will inevitably summarize and I'll save myself the brain damage.

[Naga Sadow]

Silentz,

This is the first one I've seen in English. I'm to lazy to try Google Translator. I must admit I was a bit curious after about 20 of his posts. Does it even qualify as spam? He's not selling anything. He's not pimping a blog. It's just a random paragraph. I thought it was funny.

[EJM]

Naga, all the background you need is here.

And, on a completely unrelated note, "Taiwan man sentenced for selling 'cursed' house".

[J sub D]

And, on a completely unrelated note, "Taiwan man sentenced for selling 'cursed' house".

Superstitious nonsense? Yes.
Fraud? Yes as well.

Seems to me that beause "I ain't afraid of no ghosts" I can get a good deal on a house in Taiwan.

[Enough About Palin]

I just did my Minnesota State income taxes.

I owe them $79,which is fine by me. But here's the thing - I am instructed to send my income tax return to the state via the enclosed envelope (but not a w-2. Instead, they have you write your w-2 info on a separate form to be included with the return).

Then, in a separate envelope not provided, I have to send my $79 check to an entirely different address. On the back of this envelope, I wrote that asking people to send their return to one address and their tax payment to another address was bat shit crazy.

Even though I know it won't make a difference.

[ev]

ravio is indeed a strange creature.

he switched from deutsch to english like three days ago after much protest.

the mystery continues.

in other news my fist has become lodged up my ass.

[MNG]

I don't know much about Michelle Malkin other than every time I've seen her she seems like somebody trying to outdo Coulter as the right's diva supreme.

But does she really take a hard line against immigration? I mean, I'm looking at a photo of her, and it just strikes me that, perhaps, she probably cannot draw a straight ancestral line back to Colonial America...

I guess though EVERYONE in this nation should have the same problem opposing immigration as Malkin would have...But as an empirical matter it just sparks a disconnect in my admittedly tired (traveled all weekend) noggin...

[P Brooks]

Ummmmm...

Fuck the internal Revenue Service.
I downloaded at least 100 pages of forms and instructional materials yesterday, and I'm a loooong way from the finish line.

I guess I'm going to have to file for an extension, in order to further plumb the intricacies of Form 1045. Maybe if I read Publication 536 fourteen or fifteen more times, its mysteries will be revealed to me.

If the Presidential Suit wants to do something truly useful, he can take a break from propping up the investment banks and hedge funds, and put the fucking tax parasites out of business.

Har de fucking har.

[jtuf]

In principle, President Obama is maintaining that victims of constitutional wrongdoing by the U.S. government should be denied a remedy to prevent the American people and the world at large from learning of the lawlessness perpetrated in the name of national security and exacting political and legal accountability.

So, Obama is using the same logic Nixon used.

[Paul]

written and directed by the auteur Kevin Smith

Ah, thanks for the warning. I can now scratch this one off my list of movies to see. Or, add it to my list of Kevin Smith movies to never see-- which is pretty much all of them. Yes, that includes Clerks.

[MNG]

One thing about Bruce Fein, that guy calls 'em like he sees them...He's like the anti-hack.

[MNG]

Kevin Smith is highly over-rated, but he did write a smoking good couple of Green Arrow comics.

[Brett Stevens]

Fecal Contamination... I have their first album. Great stuff.

[BakedPenguin]

MNG - yeah, all of us had ancestors who moved here at some point after reaching homo sapiens status. I don't necessarily see the issue as one of hypocrisy - I just think she's wrong.

If you an insight into the same mindset, come to central Florida. I can't tell you how many douchebags I've heard say something like: "Well, I've been here for a year, and this growth is really terrible. They need to do something about it." IOW, now that I'm here, bar the gates.

[Suki]

Paul,

Ah, thanks for the warning. I can now scratch this one off my list of movies to see. Or, add it to my list of Kevin Smith movies to never see-- which is pretty much all of them. Yes, that includes Clerks.

Is the number 37 that shameful to you?

[Suki]

MNG,

I must have not seen or listened to Malkin as much as you. I have heard her complain about illegal immigration and IIRC her family immigrated legally, like mine.

Then again, I am not who you were responding to because your post is the only one with Malkin or immigration in it.

[John C. Randolph]

In the "credit where credit is due" vein, I'll commend Obama for letting the Navy do the mission for which their service was created. Three perps down, no Americans hurt.

I'd love to know what kind of range the snipers were dealing with. Three shots, three kills, on the open ocean? Great work.

-jcr

[BakedPenguin]

Suki, I referenced Malkin upthread, replying to a Lonewacko sockpuppet.

[MNG]

Baked
You'll find Suki is a dumb lil' bitch regardless of what has been said, what the topic is, etc.

S/he's like that dog down the road, grrr, and I'm like the mailman, Yeah bitch, I'm threatening everything you think is important and all, just move aside a bit while I put this letter in your master's box and I'll be on your way champ...

[MNG]

As to Malkin, I just read her Wiki page.

She was born to parents who were here on student visas.

Ok, as the odd "anti-immigration liberal" on this site I will say, FUCK HER.

Your dad and your mom's foriegn ass are in the country on some bullshit visa and they breed and you happen to pop out the vagina here and you are a U.S. citizen? Fuck that, big time.

For THAT person to then turn around and hate on those poor bastards that try to get into our country, and yes imo ruin it, is total and massive bullshit.

And I see her husband stays home with the kids while she works...yeah, that fits with the conservative bullshit we hear all the time, yet she pedals such shit...Suck it Malkin, you tool...

[Art-P.O.G.]

@MNG...

...misogyny...misogyny....

[Kolohe]

Ah, thanks for the warning. I can now scratch this one off my list of movies to see. Or, add it to my list of Kevin Smith movies to never see-- which is pretty much all of them. Yes, that includes Clerks.

Is the number 37 that shameful to you?

Personally, I find Paul's view of Smith somewhat askew.

[Kolohe]

You'll find Suki is a dumb lil' bitch regardless of what has been said, what the topic is, etc.

@MNG...

...misogyny...misogyny....

The truth about women on the internet: There are no girls on the Internet. Even the Nazis knows that there's no girls on the Internet.

[Paul]

Personally, I find Paul's view of Smith somewhat askew.

I was mildly amused by Clerks 2. That's the only bone I'll throw Smith. He's like Tarantino, except worse, because Tarantino did make a couple of good movies, and then promptly went way downhill as a parody of himself.

As a good friend of mine once wrote about one of Tarantino's grindhouse abominations: "It's motorcycles and hot chicks, how can you screw that up?"

But I digress. We were making fun of Kevin Smith.

[Paul]

In other news, U.S. Navy discovers lightly armed men in dinghies on the high seas are easy to defend against.

[BakedPenguin]

MNG, Sounds like you and Suki have had it out once or twice. I must have missed those threads.

Inre: Malkin, I just think she's an idiot. And a disingenuous one, at that. I don't know how someone who can write this can go out to spout the crap that she does. I'm thinking it's the piles of money available for shill.

I think it was FrBunny who made the point that every character in Kevin Smith movies sound like Kevin Smith. While that's not the case 100% of the time, it's true enough to seriously detract from his movies. Also, I'll give FrBunny the benefit of the doubt, because she is funnier than Smith ever was or will be.

And Taratino is a one-trick pony. Massive violence, a (for a time) unique editing style, and... that's about it. He was all about how the story gets told, rather than what the story was. Once people got used to the way he told his stories, they realized he ultimately had nothing to say. Maybe he'll come out with something that will prove me wrong, but I doubt it.

[Art-P.O.G.]

MNG, Sounds like you and Suki have had it out once or twice.

Heh heh. True. Good thing it's not middle school, or you know how I'd read the situation.

The lady with the "3rd arm" makes me think of the trailer for that movie Special.

Also, here's a belated "shut the fuck up, #!"

[BakedPenguin]

The lady with the "3rd arm" makes me think of the trailer for that movie Special.

Oddly enough, it made me think of Boxing Helena. Not sure why.

[Kolohe]

Oh, I'm board with saying that both Tarantino and Smith are one trick ponies - but it's a heck of a trick.

'Everyone sounds like [the author]' is the exact same criticism one can level at Aaron Sorkin. And many people don't like him for just that reason. But it never really bothered me (except toward the end of West Wing, where a near complete cast change out did indeed make it a little obvious that he writes almost entirely in one dimension)

Also, never saw Clerks 2 as just the idea of that movie strikes me as the moral equivalent of 'The Phantom Menace'.

[Paul]

Also, never saw Clerks 2 as just the idea of that movie strikes me as the moral equivalent of 'The Phantom Menace'.

I, like every other Generation X slacker kind of enjoyed Clerks after I saw it in the theater. Then, months later, after thinking about, I started to dislike it. That dislike grew, then I got a chance to see it again and I couldn't help but being vaguely irritated by the story arc, the dialog, acting, horrible camera work and poor editing.

Kevin Smith movies are like Spike Lee movies: They don't age well over time.

For the record Spike Lee is a talented filmmaker, although I think less of his efforts in 2009 than I did in the nineties.

A friend who like Clerks and had seen Clerks 2 convinced me to see 2 and said he thought I'd like it better. He was right. I found it tolerant and in some places genuinely funny.

[Orange Line Special]

You know the recent "burn books!" vid? Anyone else think the person who shouted that was a plant and Alex Pareene, the HuffPost, Andrew Sullivan, LGF, and others are just spreading an obvious smear?

[matt2]

Shut the fuck up, Chris Kelly.

[TrickyVic]

""""The intelligence detective opened the criminal investigation Sept. 29 into the identity and "possible criminal overtones" of the blog, fbcjaxwatchdog.blogspot.com"""

Intelligence detective? The oxymoron of the 21st century. America is really going down the crapper.

[R C Dean]

I'd love to know what kind of range the snipers were dealing with. Three shots, three kills, on the open ocean? Great work.

I think it was close range. But, to be fair, they were shooting through the portholes on the lifeboat, and both boats were in motion.

I'm wondering what weapons they used. I'm hoping they unlimbered their Barrett .50s for this. Just to be sure.

[Paul]

I'm wondering what weapons they used. I'm hoping they unlimbered their Barrett .50s for this. Just to be sure.

25-30 yards. Either a crossman pellet gun, or a .22 rifle.

[Isaac Bartram]

I've heard 90-100 feet.

Still a hell of a shot from one pitching deck to another.

And I'm assuming they used the standard sniper rifle which I believe is still a heavy barelled bolt action chambered in .308 Winchester (7.62 NATO). Very similar to your deer rifle, especially if you own a Remington 700.

[Isaac Bartram]

Whatever they used, I'm still impressed.

While the shot was only 90-100 feet (the lifeboat was on a towline) reports are saying there was a severe chop and it was getting worse.

This would be impressive if it had been only one shot. But to get the timing and target identification just perfect for three simultaneous shots is just short of superhuman.

[Suki]

MNG,

You are every bit as bright as you write, I am sure.

Please stop calling yourself a Liberal? You give us a bad name and I am sure someone is leaving a bad taste in your mouth.

[raivo pommer]

raivo pommer-www.google.ee
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SLOW- MOTION

Federal regulators on Friday will privately begin telling the 19 largest US financial institutions how well they performed in stress
tests to assess their soundness.

Regulators trying to stabilize the financial system also will release the test methodology they used, which could provide clues about which banks may be in trouble - but also could could unwittingly roil the industry.

The results of the stress tests won't be publicly released until May 4.

The slow-motion rollout is intended to blunt market reaction to the news of which banks are healthy, which ones could fail if the recession worsens and which need more money to survive.

News reports, including a confidential outline of the tests first reported by The Associated Press this week, have led analysts to start handicapping which banks could fail. The speculation will intensify with Friday's release of the test methodology.

``I'm worried about the overreaction - people selling every bank short and pulling out all their deposits and hiding their money in the mattress,'' said Scott Talbott, a lobbyist with the Financial Services Roundtable, which represents the biggest financial firms.

Regulators are striving to release enough information about the stress tests to inspire confidence. But they don't want to give analysts so much detail that they can run their own tests on the banks before the official release of results.