The Education of Stevie Nicks

For those uninterested in Somali pirates and radical students occupying buildings at the New School, it has been a pretty slow news day. And seeing as it's Easter weekend, why not a post about Stevie Nicks and her deep hatred of technology? Well, sure. Via the Huffington Post, the Fleetwood Mac singer tells the AP that technological progress is killing our children and preventing the younger generations from fully appreciating the genius of "Tusk."

"I believe that computers have taken over the world. I believe that they have in many ways ruined our children. I believe that kids used to love to go out and play," Nicks says in her famously smoky voice. "I believe that social graces are gone because manners are gone because all people do is sit around and text. I think it's obnoxious."

Nicks does own an iPod, but she prefers to listen to music -- which includes her new CD, "The Soundstage Sessions"--on a boombox. (The CD also comes packaged with a DVD.) Better yet, give her a cassette version and she'll be in musical heaven. "It sounds better and you'd be convinced," she says.

We've all heard the case of the back-to-vinyl ethusiasts, but casettes? A full 35 years after joining Fleetwood Mac, Nicks concluded that it was about time she wrote crappy songs about guilty boxers and credit default swaps:

AP: Have the nation's economic troubles inspired you musically?

Nicks: Absolutely, I want to go home and write Bob Dylan songs, I want to go write radical, rebellious "let's try to make it better" songs. I'm very affected by everything going on. When I do get finished with this Fleetwood Mac tour, I will absolutely write about the political situation, which I have never done before. I have never actually been very political before, and I'm starting to feel more political every day. So, pretty soon, governor (laughs).

Friday bonus video: Check out Lindsey Buckingham's sweet afro in this 1977 performance of "Dreams."

Comments

[Pro Libertate]

What do you expect from her? She's a witch.

[[e-mail]]

yo, fuck Stevie Nicks

[JD]

Entertainer who makes living entertaining people fantasizes that people really care what she thinks about non-entertainment-related topics; exposes ignorance in public. Details at 11, now sports.

[brotherben]

Just read another piece about Lindsey Lohann trying to get the rights to do stevie's life story. Stevie said "over my dead body." Said Lindsey needs to get off the drugs, then she'll talk.

[Kevin]

'cause Stevie's never done any drugs herself.
Pot, meet kettle.

[Vanessa]

Stevie all but destroyed herself with drugs. That was an education for her and something Ms. Lohan might want to pay attention to.

[Suki]

And seeing as it's Easter weekend Not the only thing going on this weekend Mister Gentile 😉

Thank GAWD that Stevie Nicks never acted like some sort of Woman Power Goddess. She would fit right in, don't get me wrong, but the dumbass cart is already full.

brotherben,

What? That is bizare! But I do find LL to be oh so cute on or off drugs. I have never seen a bad picture of her. But the bio thing? Too strange.

[Troy]

Just read another piece about Lindsey Lohann trying to get the rights to do stevie's life story. Stevie said "over my dead body." Said Lindsey needs to get off the drugs, then she'll talk.

Stevie, considering you've snorted enough coke to impact the GDP of certain latin american countries, give her a break.

And hey, maybe Lohan is just studying for the role.

[Suki]

Let's not go all crazy on the anti drug wording, k? Abusing yourself with anything including drugs is bad for you, no doubt. But the drugs did not do it, the people taking them did.

[ed]

"...kids used to love to go out and play."

Poor kids still do that. And by "poor" I mean kids who don't own cell phones and XBoxes. But when was the last time you saw a child reading a book for pleasure? Maybe that's what Mizz Nicks is getting at. More probably she's just another entertainer who should never be taken seriously.

[Paul]

I uhh, never mind...

[Hugh Akston]

But the drugs did not do it, the people taking them did.

Right. Blaming the coke for Stevie Nicks' idiocy, self-absorption and lack of talent is like blaming gremlins for your whoring.

[Suki]

is like blaming gremlins for your whoring.

She did that too? My grandma's generation was pretty wild!

[James Butler]

I'm with Paul.

[stuartl]

Given that Dreams is one of her most comprehensible songs (Edge of Seventeen takes impenetrability to new heights), I look forward to her Dylanesque protest songs.

Just like the white winged dove...
Sings a song
Sounds like she's singing...
Ooo... baby ooo... said ooo

[stubby]

My tween years coincided with FM's pinnacle. I loved Stevie's whole ethereal Mabinogian fluttery witch thing, and I would've gone around dressed like the cover of Rumours all the damned time if my mother hadn't loved me. I wanted to name my daughter Rhiannon.

Years went by. Stevie went solo and made the video for Stand Back and I remember thinking "Wha....? Was she always that awful?" Yes, yes she was. Was Christine McVie always lovelier and saner and more competent and just generally less awful? Of course. Life is unfair.

And has Mick Fleetwood always looked like Terry Pratchett?

[dead_elvis]

Cassette tapes? Really?

I guess the years have robbed her of her hearing.

Tapes are one of the things that make me want to go around telling the younger generation "you have no idea how good you have it."

[stubby]

I've already explained the ancient mysteries of hair rollers that don't heat up ("but where do you plug them in, Mama? How do they curl your hair??"), hair dryers that you can't hold in your hands, and telephones with round dial-y things to my daughter. She's vaguely aware of what a record is, but I don't think she's ever seen a cassette. Me, I have genuinely fond childhood memories of 8 tracks, but they have nothing to do with quality of sound.

[EJM]

For those uninterested in Somali pirates...

But, for those who are interested in Somali pirates, I direct you to (among others) Reuters Africa, AlertNet, ReliefWeb, allAfrica, and VOA.

[Suki]

But, for those who are interested in Somali pirates,

Only if they use safe words.

[Bronwyn]

Cassettes, hell yeah! I've still got at least a dozen of my old mix tapes stashed in the car and around the house.

Nilsson's The Point was much better on cassette than on CD.

Also, hey! The girls are here tonight!
*waves*

[John]

Tusk is an outstanding album/CD and showcases the very considerable songwriting talent of the bands members, some of its best songs are by SN.

[Brett Stevens]

"Entertainer" means distant from reality but also a marketer of happy illusions, not displeasingly complex realities.

Just like politicians.

Perhaps we should rethink this whole "democracy" and "open markets" thing, because in the hands of idiots, it seems to reward illusionists.

[stubbylibrarian]

John: I agree. I almost included a disclaimer that, while she never could sing worth a damn, Stevie can be a wonderful songwriter. I had to pop over to Itunes and download Landslide after I started posting in here.

Stevie's version even, not the DC's, even though Natalie Maines is a much better singer.

Suki: made me snort. well played.

[JP]

It's not nice to make fun of addle-pated has-been pop stars by reporting what they say.

[Art-P.O.G.]

Suki: made me snort. well played.

+1. And OK, weird echo. Didn't Mellencamp also claim that cassettes sounded better than CDs? Too lazy to link...

[Suki]

Didn't Mellencamp also claim that cassettes sounded better than CDs?

I think you are right.

Isn't there a home for aged rockstars?

[stubby]

I think Stevie is a genuine, old-skool hippy who longs for simpler times and lost youth - and don't we all. Mellencamp is a whiny little pussy who doesn't sell as well as he did before this here Internet thingy came along and destroyed the old business model, so he has to support himself, his model wife and his passel of kids on nothing but millions in royalties and the money he gets from selling out to large auto manufacturers even though he's all about the little man, man. Life's never been easy for aging rock stars, but now it's not just the drugs and the STDs taking their toll, now it's the money, and that shit hurts.

[Art-P.O.G.]

Wait, I guess he just said the sound quality of CDs wasn't better than that of cassettes. I shrug at that, but the rest of thae corresponding paragraph was truly dumb.

[Waldorf Teacher]

But when was the last time you saw a child reading a book for pleasure?

Daily.

[Art-P.O.G.]

Good points, stubby...and also, the knowledge that Bob Seger is better at selling out to auto manufacturers and Bruce Springsteen is better at being John Mellencamp has to bother The Cougar some.

[Jack McHugh]

I never could stand Nicks' whiny, tremulous voice and songs.

Christine McVie now - there was power and beauty and fun and inspiration. How about a little "Don't - stop - thinking about tomorrow!"

(Or maybe some "You, you make lovin' fun." 🙂 )

[MNG]

But CD's are more easily damaged than cassette tapes. That's my beef with them.

[max hats]

And the random personal vendetta of the day is. . .

[Art-P.O.G.]

But CD's are more easily damaged than cassette tapes. That's my beef with them.

Fair enough, but you can convert your CDs to digital files (and not pirate them if you want!). Best feature ever.

[John C. Randolph]

But CD's are more easily damaged than cassette tapes.

Are you serious? Tapes jam, they get kinked, and they wear out with repeated playing.

-jcr

[Art-P.O.G.]

And the random personal vendetta of the day is. . .

Alpha 60.

[Art-P.O.G.]

The digital formatting of the CD was fairly revolutionary, after all. And the ability to change tracks. I almost forgot to mention that.

[dhex]

"But CD's are more easily damaged than cassette tapes. That's my beef with them."

true, but on the other hand, if you actually take care of the cds it takes years to really fuck them up. now? rip once, done. it's like having a really nice printed backup.

[pigwiggle]

Cassette tapes? Really?

I think people are nostalgic about the flaws of the media they came up with. A few weeks back I read a story about a some double blind listening test that found kids that grew up listening to low quality mp3s now prefer the hiss and tick of low bit rate mp3s. I like the click and pop of vinyl, and the old tin can sound of old time radio serials. Not that I cam up with that, but it certainly ads atmosphere.

But CD's are more easily damaged than cassette tapes. That's my beef with them.

If you don't baby them, they get dirty and ruin the head. A dusty CD isn't going to ruin your equipment. Most of my CD collection has seen a read one time. The time it was ripped to my hard drive.

[MNG]

If I throw a cassette to the floorboard of my car and a CD to the same, which is going to get messed up faster and more?

Art-P.O.G.'s point is granted though.

[MNG]

Oh, c'mon guys, it is MUCH easier to damage a CD than a cassete.

I mean, c'mon.

[MNG]

Spingsteen's song for The Wrestler is pretty good though...

But of course, that movie is pretty good...

[dhex]

it's easier to damage my paperbacks than my hardcovers, too. but i don't throw them around or pour milk over them while yelling "TAKE THAT MICHAEL MOYNIHAN YOU SEXY BEAST YOU!" so they stay in good condition.

same thing with my cds. 🙂

[MNG]

Urrr, Ok Dhex, that's just fucking stupid.

Please try again.

[stubby]

In every car I've ever had with a cassette player - cheap or mid-range (I don't drive expensive), foreign or domestic - the cassette player eventually began eating my tapes. Every one. The CD player in my car is long past its prime, and sometimes it doesn't want to load a CD, but it never eats them.

[Art-P.O.G.]

(Sigh) Poor 8-tracks with no one to defend them.

[pigwiggle]

if I throw a cassette to the floorboard of my car and a CD to the same, which is going to get messed up faster and more?

And that dirt stuck to your cassette eats every subsequent cassette you play across the same tape head.

I have more than 200 CDs ripped and compressed with *lossless* FLAC, right at my fingertips in my car. Each and every time I play it, it's the same 1s and 0s. In fact, with as cheap as storage has become, there isn't much point in compressing that WAV. Digital media - period.

[MNG]

What's the point of buying strawberry flavored anal lube , once you use it it still tastes just like shit.

[Dave W.]

1. Cassettes have nice built in compression which means that certain songs or albums sound better on cassette. Or to put it another way: certain songs or albums are well-written and produced for cassette. Damn The Torpedoes by Tome Petty is one. Rumours by Fleetwod Mac is another. Anything by the Cars. From a wildly different genre: Bee Thousand and Alien Lanes by Guided By Voices. Of course, Bee Thousand and Alien Lanes were recorded on cassette, but not everything recorded on cassette is tailored for the medium as nicely as these.

2. Some albums that were not recorded with the cassette in mind probably would have been better if they were. The Hives Veni Vidi Vicious comes to mind. So does that You're A Woman lp by Death From Above 1979.

3. All that said: I hate tape hiss and I hate Dolby noise reduction. I am glad to have mp3s and CDs and no noise.

4. Here is the record where I personally made the big jum to digital recording:

http://farceswannamo.blogspot.com/2007/12/if-not-why-not-lp-2003.html

[Suki]

I see that John Cougar and Stevie Nicks are not the only crazy old coots who prefer inferior technology.

Is MNG commenting from his VAX?

[Orange Line Special]

Her voice isn't that bad. The problem with her persona is the hick component. Yeah, sorry for saying what I feel.

Here's FM before Nicks. They were just a wee bit different.

[Art-P.O.G.]

LoneWacko, I'd like to complement you on commenting on something other than your idee fixe.

[parent of a 7-yr old]

But when was the last time you saw a child reading a book for pleasure?

Daily.

Me too.

[dhex]

Urrr, Ok Dhex, that's just fucking stupid.

not even a teeny tiny smile? a little one?

no?

i'll pray for you.

[KrisK]

awwww enuff Stevie hatin' - she was never exactly an intellectual but we who post comments on blogs aren't in much of a position to critique others for their circular ramblings -- or penetrating insightful comments either. Are you a person? You get to speak to whomever will listen. The other way is communism...

and Stevie WAS hot. The hottest woman in America in the mid 70's... well, between her and Lynda Carter...

[Mom of 4]

But when was the last time you saw a child reading a book for pleasure?

Daily.

Me too.

Ditto.

They read (copiously), they get dirty, they ride bikes, they play in the swimming pool, they ride horses and play softball, board games and cards. AND they play video games, chat with friends on the Internets, play online role playing games, draw on paper AND in Photoshop/Gimp, etc. etc. etc.

[Art-P.O.G.]

Are you a person? You get to speak to whomever will listen

Yeah, but you see, we're just part of that dialogue...Stevie...computers don't create the inequalities in parental guidance that any given child will receive...the circumstances are largely pre-existing and non-contingent on technological access. Pre-existing, I say! It's all about adaptation to these circumstances and factors, or as Bowie might say, Ch-ch-ch-changes.

See, we can be cordial.

[Sam Grove]

Reminds me of audiophile claims of the superior sound of tube amps.

Carver (Carver amps) measured some tube amps, dick with a transistor amp, used it in blind audio comparisons, audiophiles couldn't tell the difference. At least, that how I remember it.

[Sam Grove]

And here it is recounted at wikipedia.

[Art-P.O.G.]

I don't want to pile on, because MNG probably get more shit than he deserves, but I'm afraid dhex's comment was funny. And if we can't laugh at ourselves every now and then, I don't know how we can make it through life.

DISCLAIMER: I have no sense of humor about myself.

[Art-P.O.G.]

gets* as in Art-P.O.G. gets an editor.

[Syd]

I always liked Stevie Nicks. She's not an intellectual heavyweight, but she wrote some nice songs and seems like a genuinely pleasant person. And she does have a point; it would be better in children would actually go out and play with other children rather than sit at home interacting through the internet.

I doubt that she'd have any particularly insightful comments on politics, but neither do most of the posters on this forum.

[Tony]

Well I know I could go for some coke right now.

Anyway I've got more important things to do than read these comments, so I'd just like to say that Fleetwood Mac is the fucking bomb and anyone who says different is a plutocratic whore.

[Art-P.O.G.]

I doubt that she'd have any particularly insightful comments on politics, but neither do most of the posters on this forum.

Oh, snap!

I'd just like to say that Fleetwood Mac is the fucking bomb

Good band.

I've got more important things to do than read these comments

You ain't got to lie to kick it.

[?]

I stumbled across some still shrinkwrapped '70s British cassettes of the first few Queen albums a couple years ago, and they do sound better than the CDs. Same for the early Replacements albums, because the CDs (either issue) are so awful. And the first-issue cassettes of Loveless are mysteriously good, too.

Happens.

But Stevie Nicks is just high on cheesecake.

[Spotted Toad]

Stevie Nicks should be frog prepped.

Computers and technology didn't wreck the lives of her grandkids' generation. Arrogant, greedy baby boomers like herself did. :-p

[Justen]

Cassettes don't sound better by virtue of being cassettes, and they sound crappier with each play through because magnetic tape degrades through use. I do agree that the re-mastering, including noise cleanup and volume normalizing, that is done on older albums when converted to CD or digital does sound terrible, but that's a recording trend rather than a feature of the medium. It's actually tough to find old music in its original intended form, with all its subtleties and recording artifacts that give it that warmth and depth that modern music often lacks. LPs will serve you a lot better than cassette tapes though if you are looking for that experience, and you can do your own direct -to-digital conversions from old albums if you don't like the treatment they get on re-release.

Anyway, governor, hah, just what we need. A washed up luddite hippie. Don't get me wrong, I love a lot of Stevie Nicks' music, but I can't decide if that's frightening or funny. "In today's news, Governor Nicks has imposed a state-wide internet and cell phone ban" riiight.

[Suki]

Art-P.O.G.,

I don't want to pile on, because MNG probably get more shit than he deserves, but I'm afraid dhex's comment was funny.

Maybe he loses something in the translation between current English and ancient Greek?

[Porky]

As i recall this is the same Nicks that kept insisting her implants had poisoned her even though medical tests kept showing that there was nothing there. What Nicks believes is irrelevant as it has nothing to do with the actual evidence. Like Santana's views on dope and Cruise's views on Prozac this is just more evidence that talent doesn't guarantee intellect.

[Prescriptivist]

You get to speak to whomever will listen

whoever

[dhex]

there are good remasters and bad remasters. the remastering done for unknown pleasures, for example, is amazing.

[whiskeytangofoxtrot]

As Homer would say - "The Internet...is that thing still around?"

[James Ard]

I'd put LaGrange in the bad remaster camp. Frank Beard must have hypnotized Billy and Dusty to get that drum line in there.

[Bronwyn]

Alright, so which one of you losers posted "Frog Prep" in my Livejournal blog?

71.247.179.139
New York

Hrmmmm

[Suki]

New person question: So, is this were we hang out on the weekends until they post something new Monday?

[SugarFree]

Alright, so which one of you losers posted "Frog Prep" in my Livejournal blog?

A serious examination of who the "loser" is in this scenario is warranted. I guess you need a place for your goth poetry and Supernatural slash fiction, but come on.

[Brett Stevens]

Computers and technology didn't wreck the lives of her grandkids' generation. Arrogant, greedy baby boomers like herself did.

Death to the boomers... the children of the 1920-1930s flappers and other vapid people. Only three generations past them letting in the Irish, Slavs, I-talians, etc. Only two past the Civil War.

How quickly this country changed, and without a thought for the consequences.

[Bronwyn]

Well that was mean, SF.

[kevrob]

What a recording sounds like often has a lot to do with the media the artist expects to deliver it. Some folks thing Beach Boys records sound best in mono, because Brain Wilson is deaf in one ear and can't hear stereo, so that is his true mix. Supposedly, some 60s record producers would optimize the mix of their 45s to the limits of AM radio. If it sounded great on the radio, it would sell.

It could be the case that LPs pressed on the best vinyl, played on the best sound system really do sound better than the CD version, even if the source for the CD isn't a botched remix of the original performance. I'm willing to bet that the CDs and mp3s I listen to today outperform the crappy all-in-one turntable/receiver/cassette deck I spent a week's minimum wage pay on in 1978, though.

BTW, ed, if kids don't read books, explain Harry Potter, Twilight and even the work of Dav Pilkey.

Kevin

[Libertymike]

MNG-

dhex could have said the same thing to me. It would have been just as funny.

[Bart]

Wait, Rubin Carter was guilty? Christ... I've got nothing to hold on to anymore

[SugarFree]

Well that was mean, SF.

Don't try your mom guilt on me. 😛

[Bronwyn]

Damn. I'm ashamed that my guilt-fu is so weak.

[Thomas]

Not Even...

[Naga Sadow the Progressive]

No shame, SugarFree? Why do you hate women?

[ed]

BTW, ed, if kids don't read books...

I didn't say they didn't read books. I asked when was the last time you saw one doing it. I was in a waiting room full of kids yesterday for two hours. They fidgeted. They texted. They phoned. They bounced off the walls. Not one of them spent any time reading anything. Your results may vary.

Anyway, the best sound reproduction I've found is a bone hitting a stump. Very realistic.

[Naga Sadow]

ed,

Maybe it was the material at hand. I don't know who has been publishing "Highlights" for all these years but that magazine blows. Plus, maybe they were just stupid kids that don't read. To small a sample size and what not.

[Art-P.O.G.]

ed,

Or maybe the kids were just using Kindle 2s.

[Ken Shultz]

Most book reading is a waste of time. A lot of what kids read is no better than television.

Even well written fiction.

I mean, most sex is a waste of time too, and I'd actually rather spend more time doing that, it's just that people talk about the reading kids do like it's better than something else...

And I'm not just talking about the Sci-Fi and vampire fantasy. I read a bunch of Dostoevsky late in high school. That "Grand Inquisitor" chapter led to an idea or two, but it took a long time to stumble into that. I read a lot about the French Revolution, so now I know a lot about the French Revolution. Who cares?

I might as well have been watching Gilligan's Island.

[brotherben]

krisk said: "and Stevie WAS hot. The hottest woman in America in the mid 70's... well, between her and Lynda Carter..."

Stevie wasn't as much hot as she was desirable.

Now if ya wanna talk about Emmylou Harris...

Here it is 30 years later and Emmylou is still the finest woman in this, or any other universe.

[MaterialMonkee]

Teh Mac have been shite since Peter Green walked off
Barring the Stones and the Rretty things
Peter Green's mac really was the best brit blues band

Man of the world, black magic woman, albatros

Clapton, Page, Winwood etc don't have anything to compare

On the music tech luddite thing
I hate to admit it but I'm in the other camp

I came of age listenin to Dub and Hip hop so

Nothing will ever top vinyl!

CD's suck

[MaterialMonkee]

"hottest woman in America in the mid 70's"

Had to be Betty Davis

just for the Dirty lyrics!
and those blines

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GWikmANtgM

[SugarFree]

Bronwyn,

Don't get down on yourself. I have a thick hide from my mother. Not even my wife's death glare can do much to me at this point.

[MaterialMonkee]

"Fleetwood Mac is the fucking bomb and anyone who says different is a plutocratic whore."

Depends on the Mac

Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-ELydnDgKY

absolutely rocks

Post Pete-Green Mac

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wwttxW5hMg

shite uber-bollocks

[Dagny T.]

I guess you need a place for your goth poetry and Supernatural slash fiction, but come on.

Awfully quick to jump on the Livejournal hate-train, aren't we, Sug? As if you never posted some angsty poetry there once upon a time.

[Bronwyn]

I've never even come across any goth poetry or slash fic. Guess I travel in the wrong LJ circles. The most exotic thing going in my circle of friends is Seattle burlesque.

SF, tell your wife that I've found verbal guilt-trips to be far more effective than death glares.

And if any kids are reading Kindle2s, I'm going to simply explode from jealousy. I spent about an hour last night, cruising through the Kindle store and searching for titles at Project Gutenberg.

$0.79 for Asimov? Fuck yeah!

[SugarFree]

As if you never posted some angsty poetry there once upon a time.

You said that was just between us! [runs sobbing from mean Dagny]

[Episiarch]

I'm a little late to this party but frankly I'm appalled that there are people who thing McVie was better looking than Nicks.

And NutraSweet, you, of all people, should not be giving anyone shit. Remember the debacle when you tried to pitch your idea for

[Episiarch]

You know, using the touchpad in the lounge leads to screwy things.

I was trying to out you for your idea of a goofy show where all the characters were food and some fat guy (representing you) lived next door and interacted with them. How stupid.

[Dagny T.]

You know, using the touchpad in the lounge leads to screwy things.

I think what you meant to say was: "Cocaine's a hell of a drug."

[Suki]

BS,

Only three generations past them letting in the Irish, Slavs, I-talians, etc. Only two past the Civil War.

Thank goodness you approve of the gooks, slopes, chinks and zips.

I can sip my home made white whiskey with pride.

[Suki]

I mean, most sex is a waste of time too,

You need a new girlfriend boyfriend partner.

[cramoft]

Carver (Carver amps) measured some tube amps, dick with a transistor amp, used it in blind audio comparisons, audiophiles couldn't tell the difference. At least, that how I remember it.

Sam Grove is right the listeners could not tell the difference between the Carver amps and a tube amp. But, until the Carver amps or any other transistor amp was redesigned to used FET's that was not true. FET's can be made to perform and sound exactly like a tube.

[plutosdad]

They had videogames when I was a kid (by then we had the atari 2600) but our parents only let us play a little then told us to go out and play outside. Same with my other friends. No reason parents can't do the same today.

And CASETTES? WTF? Maybe she's still on the drugs.

[Hugh Akston]

Isn't there a home for aged rockstars?

Sure there is, VH1.

[BakedPenguin]

I believe there was a time when tube amps did have a noticeably warmer sound than transistor amps. Since I'm old enough to (barely) remember tube amps, though it could just be one of those unreliable memory things you hear about in Balko's columns.

Anyway, now I have Guitar Port and Sony Acid Pro 6. I can call up any of a hundred amp sounds (or build my own) on the former, and then layer multiple tracks of guitar, bass, and drum machine on the latter. All for the price of about an hour or two worth of studio time in 1990. But yeah, this technology is terrible. *cough*

And Material Monkee, if you want to compare Green FM with Buckingham / Nicks FM, then play Black Magic Woman (or Albatross, or Oh Well) vs. The Chain, Sara, Go Your Own Way, Hypnotized, or Rhiannon. Don't pull up some middling shit off of Tango in the Night and pretend you're comparing apples to apples. I'm sure I could find some crappy Bluebreakers or early Green FM tunes that wouldn't hold a candle to any of the later ones I listed.

[BakedPenguin]

My bad - Hypnotized was post-Green, but pre-Buckingham/Nicks

[ray butthead]

Must be a slow news day. Picking on Stevie Nicks and linking to a crazy homemade conspiracy site? I thought this was a news site of some legitimacy. Next, you'll be recommending Atlas Shrugged as a guide for living. Oh wait...

[Art-P.O.G.]

@ ray butthead

Oh, snap!

[hmm]

Mildly retarded musician making stupid comments. Nothing to see here. Move along

[Taktix?]

Mildly retarded musician making stupid comments. Nothing to see here. Move along

Won't entertainers have more influence now that Kal Penn was just hired to a completely useless position and is being compensated on my dime?

Just sayin'

[Huff n Toke]

Let's see, we limit how much TV our kids watch, ditto for computer use, and they read and play outside and we do lots of things together. Maybe the issue is one of parenting and not technology.

[Naga Sadow]

Taktix,

What? Really? I predict a new movie, "Harold and Kumar go to the White House". It will include Cheney and his shotgun, Obama's dog, Mary Beth Buchanon, SWAT, IllegalMexicans, Hugo Chavez and, of course, lots of weed.

[Taktix?]

Maybe the issue is one most issues we've given up our freedom for are ones of parenting and not technology.

Fixed!

[B]

Cassettes? Fuck those. Eight-tracks are the ultimate listening experience.

[MNG]

"Eight-tracks are the ultimate listening experience."

Hey B, somebody beat you to that joke upthread by DAYS.

[Audrey the Liberal]

I wonder how people can clam to be so certain of Rubin Carter's guilt (or innocence) after all this time?

[R C Dean]

But when was the last time you saw a child reading a book for pleasure?

Both of my nieces are compulsive readers. For this reason alone, I have no fears for their respective futures.

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