"What's grandma doing walking the streets with a loaded gun?"

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It's no secret that New York City has some of the nation's strictest gun control laws. But there are a lucky few residents permitted to exercise their 2nd Amendment rights. Harlem grandmother Margaret Johnson is one of them:

This pistol-packing granny, who shot a man she accused of mugging her in her wheelchair, wishes she had finished the job—because now, he's suing her for millions.

"I'm a peaceful person. I wish that I had killed him," said Margaret Johnson, 59, whose grandfather, Ellsworth "Bumpy" Johnson, once ruled Harlem's underworld and was immortalized in several hit movies….

Johnson and her landlord, the Lenox Terrace apartment complex, are being sued for $5 million by Deron Johnson, 48, a man with a lengthy rap sheet.

Margaret Johnson, a retired city bus driver who has a dislocated hip and a ruptured disc, said that in September 2006, she was sitting in her motorized wheelchair at Lenox Avenue and 133rd Street when Johnson tried to snatch her purse and gold chain.

She pulled out her licensed .357 Magnum and fired a round into his left elbow. Cops grabbed him moments later.

Whole New York Post story here.

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  1. Too bad her aim wasn’t better.

    What’s the guy claiming? Intentional infliction of ballistic distress?

  2. Yo, fuck Deron Johnson AND his gimp elbow.

    Were i a judge, and this case came before me, i’d rule that Margaret Johnson should shoot him in the other arm just for being such a dipshit.

  3. There was a suit like this in Britain, involving a house burglar. The burglar won.

    To my mind, that makes this case a canary in a coal mine. If this asshat wins, we know this country is circling the drain.

  4. My buddy lives in Lenox Terrace…

  5. Where can I get tickets to the ship to New Zealand?

  6. I wish more stories like this got the press they deserve.

  7. It should be noted that Johnson denies the mugging and was acquitted on all charges.

    Although, he admits to kicking a dog, so he’s hardly in the running for Harlem Citizen of the Year.

    Although, the dog was a Shih Tzu, one of 6 breeds recognized as ‘punt dogs’ by the Kennel Club.

  8. At trial, Deron Johnson, who has nine previous arrests, denied being a mugger.

    He said he kicked the woman’s Shih Tzu, Malika, after it attacked him, and the gun-loving granny shot him.

    He was acquitted.

    Don’t let that stop the comment fun though. He’s got a rap sheet, so he’s probably guilty, right? Right?

  9. See? A Black man is being oppressed by a gun toting fanatic and you support the fanatic.

    Why not repost the cartoon of the white cops shooting the monkey?

  10. They don’t explain how she got an unrestricted permit. I’m assuming it was through connections of grandpa’s. Nobody–and I mean nobody–gets NYC unrestricted pistol permits except celebrities (like DeNiro, for instance), politicians, and connected people.

  11. And if the cops arrested him “moments” later, it is possible the shooting was entirely unjustified (as she was in no danger). It matters what they mean by “moments”.

    Reading between the lines (in an armchair unjustified way, to be sure, but no less than anyone else here) she saw him kick a dog, got angry and shot him, and then said he was mugging her. And just out of curiosity, was it her dog?

  12. Ah, a shih tzu. Well, then, fuck the dog.

  13. And if the cops arrested him “moments” later, it is possible the shooting was entirely unjustified (as she was in no danger). It matters what they mean by “moments”.

    Right on!

  14. And those cops were probably in a Union too. Unions defend America.

  15. She touched off a round from her .357 magnum while sitting in her wheelchair? How far backwards down the sidewalk did she go?

  16. She touched off a round from her .357 magnum while sitting in her wheelchair? How far backwards down the sidewalk did she go?

    She could have hurt other innocent minorities with her reckless Annie Okley actions.

  17. Orienting the incentives so that it’s in citizens’ interest to finish the job, rather than just defend themselves, is probably not a good thing.

  18. ‘They don’t explain how she got an unrestricted permit. I’m assuming it was through connections of grandpa’s.’

    Of course! Only reliable, upstanding citizens from good families like hers should have the right to carry guns.

    ‘”What’s grandma doing walking the streets with a loaded gun?” the [alleged thug’s] lawyer said, claiming that Lenox Terrace failed to protect his client.

    ‘”They should have known they had a tenant walking around with a loaded weapon,” he said.’

    So, assuming that the woman shot the guy for kicking her dog, a couple questions still remain:

    (a) Suing landlords because they should have taken away a tenant’s legal firearms – nothing wrong with *that* legal theory!

    (b) So you’re walking along, and you see this woman with a gun. Sure, she’s in a wheelchair, but she’s fondling her piece. Then her tiny dog starts growling at you or trying to nibble at you. The sensible thing to do in that situation is just walk away. OR, you could do what this guy claims to have done, and kick the armed woman’s little dog. Real MENSA material here!

  19. He was acquitted.

    Acquittal means that the prosecutions case wasn’t strong enough to override the presumption of innocence. Muggers rarely leave enough evidence to build a decent case on.

    Not that that makes him guilty either. It’s a basic he said/she said case.

  20. I may have fired off an f-bullet a little too soon up there, having not read the article. If he didn’t actually mug her, then sucks for the dude.

    However, in general, guys who try to mug old ladies in wheelchairs deserve whatever’s coming to them. This is mitigated only slightly if they kick a shih tzu in the process.

  21. But what about the Palestinians? Where is MNG on this?

  22. Tofusushi,

    I always applaud your efforts every time I read a comment of yours that is actually humorous or insightful.

    As you may have noticed, that never happens.

    You are an insipidly boring twit lacking both wit and wisdom. Was it a severe head injury, excessive lead ingestion as a child or an extra 21st chromosome that resulted in you being such a lame-assed troll?

  23. Have you ever been to a party where the hosts’ kid won’t go to bed? He runs up to you and asks you to look at his new Hellboy action figure, he tells you a joke about a pig and a duck, and he talks about his friend Aiden that rode in a big truck one time. He’s having the time of his life and is completely oblivious to the look on everyone else’s face that wishes he would just go to bed, or that his mom would finally usher him away. That is TofuSushi.

    I have loved H&R for years under one handle or another. The comments here practically made me a libertarian. I loved joe, too, and even Dan T back in his day. I will probably never be able to give it up entirely with or without you, but I’ve gone from living on this board to checking in twice a week, so I’m begging you, TS: please stop. I can’t install a filter at work, so there you are, on every thread, amusing only yourself. You are a one-man argument against the free market by being so unavoidably irritating.

    I know it’s feeding; I know it’s probably for naught; I know it’s a threadjack. But I’m desperate. Clearly (IMO) you are a libertarian having fun, but you are driving people away from the site, something we can ill-afford. I won’t gloat or claim responsibility. I won’t chase after you with a pitchfork. I will just be glad to have my favorite blog back. Please?

    My apologies to everyone else for the post.

  24. Orienting the incentives so that it’s in citizens’ interest to finish the job, rather than just defend themselves, is probably not a good thing.

    It is commonly believed that you’re far better off in court if there’s only one version of events. This is why the Mozambique and similar drills have such enduring popularity.

  25. Hi FrBunny! Still bashing minorities I see.

    Have a nice day.

  26. Man, this story is a Johnson-fest. I’m outta here.

    FrBunny: I have long been an advocate of responsible moderation. Trolls should not be ignored or tolerated. Nothing short of Carthagenian DoS attacks will suffice.

  27. Have you ever been to a party where the hosts’ kid won’t go to bed? He runs up to you and asks you to look at his new Hellboy action figure, he tells you a joke about a pig and a duck, and he talks about his friend Aiden that rode in a big truck one time. He’s having the time of his life and is completely oblivious to the look on everyone else’s face that wishes he would just go to bed, or that his mom would finally usher him away.

    To this point I thought you were making a metaphor about shih tzus. Then you spoiled it with:

    That is TofuSushi.

    Not that you’re wrong or anything. That is TofuSushi.

  28. Bunny, why can’t you just skip posts that you find annoying? Why let it ruin the board for you? That makes no sense. I still post here even though the horrible, horrible NutraSweet bedevils me constantly. I can’t let him win, you know?

  29. It’s a good thing she wasn’t a cop, or Reason would have a lengthy article about how she shot him just for fun, and the whole government covered it up… Just sayin’.

  30. “Walking The Streets”? Did Joe Biden write this post’s title?

  31. feed a fever, starve a troll.

    it’s not hard, folks.

    but yeah this is an odd case.

  32. Epi, I know you’re right, and posts about annoying posts have to be even worse. Like I said, I’ll keep trying.

    As for SugarFree, I’d be insufferable too if I couldn’t have a lunch entirely of Pixie Stix now and then.

  33. I’d be insufferable too if I couldn’t have a lunch entirely of Pixie Stix now and then.

    You just knocked a man’s faulty pancreas, daaaaaaamn

  34. My pancreas is weak. It deserves to be mocked.

  35. It’s not your pancreas that’s being mocked.

  36. Is she single?

  37. I really love that this grandma had a gun. Although in and of itself that’s nothing.

    I really love that she had to pick like the most badass gun in the world. How can you get shot in the arm with a .357 and STILL have an arm?

    That’s pimp.

  38. Grillmaster Nick’s Levels of Justice:

    Crime: Kicks Shih Tzu or Pomeranian or other gator bait dog (eagle bait in Alaska) — Punishment: Shot in arm.

    Crime: Kicks a real dog — Punishment: Shot in offending leg.

    Crime: Mugs old lady in wheel chair — Punishment: Spends rest of life in wheel chair.

    So, if all he did was kick the dog, justice served. If he mugged her, too, he got off light.

    Crime: Sues apartment complex for action of tenant — Punishment: Disbarred.

  39. “Hi FrBunny! Still bashing minorities I see.

    Have a nice day.”

    Dear TofuShitStain,

    Please go home and fuck your mother again. And remember to pull out this time.

    That is all.

  40. Have I mentioned that I’m a minority? Because I am.

  41. “Bunny, why can’t you just skip posts that you find annoying? Why let it ruin the board for you?”

    It’s like trying to fall asleep with a drippy faucet. Or better still on a hot night where every few minutes the smoke detector beeps.

    Just when you begin to finally doze off..BEEP.

    It’s why I don’t come here often. It’s just too annoying.

  42. TofuSushi@1:11pm,

    Are you going to respond to yourself five times now and annoy everybody?

  43. Tofu is annoying, but eminently ignorable. Seriously. I just cruise by its posts.

    FrBunny, just suck it up and come on back!

  44. “Have I mentioned that I’m a minority? Because I am.”

    Another happy Mongaloid!

  45. Bye All. Will try again next week.

  46. What my grandfahter and father said are ringing in my ears trhis morning. and what they said was, “If you are going to use your weapon against someone attacking you or breaking in, son/grandson, empty 6the clip in his ass and make sure he is no longer alive, or else the sumbitch will sue you till you wish you were dead. Moral of the story. Shoot to kill and keep shooting to all thats moving is the flesh where the bullets are striking!

  47. “Have I mentioned that I’m a minority? Because I am.”

    The only troll on the boards?

  48. Crime: Sues apartment complex for action of tenant — Punishment: Disbarred.

    Seconded.

  49. Ha ha hahaha. Some thug got his, and now he’s trying to cry wolf.

    Well this isn’t as bad as the thief that fell through an 80 yr old woman’s skylight window in CA several years ago, and sued her for damages and won.

    Or what about the man who was being robbed, and his dog finally got in the house, tore the thief to threads….

    Animal control put the heroic dog down, and the thief sued for millions. Winning.

    I wouldn’t miss.

  50. SpongePaul, my dad says that, too!

  51. “”Have I mentioned that I’m a minority? Because I am.””

    Fortunately, you trannies are not yet a protected class.

  52. Now, now Buffy. Those poor souls born intersexed are not “trannies.”

  53. BakedPenquin: If this asshat wins, we know the country is circling down the drain….

    Win? In Harlem? I don’t think so and hope not.
    Go Granny go!

  54. I find TofuSushi to be amusing personally.

    I mean it is not like most the posts here aren’t clutter anyways.

  55. “…empty the clip in his ass and make sure he is no longer alive, or else the sumbitch will sue you till you wish you were dead.”

    What’s to stop the family of the deceased from suing you?

  56. What’s to stop the family of the deceased from suing you?

    Because if the perp ain’t testifying, its your word against, er, nobody’s. Hard to bring a lawsuit without even one witness.

  57. What’s to stop the family of the deceased from suing you?
    ___________________________________________
    Not a thing, but, there is only one version of the story, the one you told to the cops. so there is no he said/ he said going on. just an official report from the police. and if it was justified, the other family would have a hard time making a case. Shooting to kill just makes everything easier, from your story, to the police report, to the courts.

  58. Shooting to kill just makes everything easier, from your story, to the police report, to the courts.

    Unless you live in a place where you’ll be attacked by the State for using excessive force aka you fired a weapon at another living creature you had no intention of eating in accordance with state health department guidelines.

  59. Fine, I admit it. I’m a spoof troll.

    Sue me.

  60. Getz lost 50 million in a lawsuit by one of the guys he shot.

    In NYC, defending from a mugger might not prevent you from civil liability. Unless your a cop or well connected.

    “””” Nobody–and I mean nobody–gets NYC unrestricted pistol permits except celebrities (like DeNiro, for instance), politicians, and connected people.””””

    True.

  61. I really love that she had to pick like the most badass gun in the world.

    Feh. .454 Casull uses .357 magnum rounds just to touch off the primers. If she’d had a real handgun they’d still be looking for the arm, and the muggeralleged mugger would have been eviscerated with his own elbow fragments.

  62. I’d like to see Deron Johnson removed from this planet…and slowly.

    The retard can’t even rob a lady in a wheelchair, and then he has the temerity to sue?

    I hope the NY Post runs a giant picture of his face with the word ‘SCUM’ above it. I would acquit anyone who took him out.

  63. Every law abiding grandma should have at least a 357 in her skirt, with lazer sites so they don’t miss. Punks that molest grandmas should all be killed.

  64. This Suit had better be dismissed. If it went down the way the lady claims. Then to hell with the scum bag perp.

    The very moment this bag of trash put the idea in his head to rob the lady, is the very moment his rights went out the window. END OF STORY!!!

  65. That’s why ya aim for the head !!

  66. Go Granny Go!!! The dirt bag should have no rights left at this point…

  67. Well,he should have learned by now not to mess with you sweetie!Whatthe blazes is it gonna take to get through to the criminals?
    Don’t worry,look behind you.There are eighty five million of us on your side.

  68. BESIDES BLOOMBURG, THIS IS JUST ANOTHER REASON THE BIG APPLE SUCKS……

  69. This is certainly a case showing the benefits of lethal force. Had the attempted felon been killed by Grandma she’d not have to deal with this!

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