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Perhaps the only people who don't like the hit movie Slumdog Millionaire are those who compete against it at awards shows. After all, it's already cleaned up at the Golden Globes, and the BAFTAs, and it's poised to repeat these feats at the Oscars.

The film follows an Indian orphan named Jamal who grows up and hits it big on the famous game show Who Wants to be a Millionaire? In important ways, Slumdog tells the story of India itself-a poverty-stricken underdog with its own rags-to-riches tales. British rule ended in 1947, and the economic woes America faces now are nothing compared to the widespread malnutrition and starvation India faced then.

Indians were enthusiastic about self-rule, but "the problem was that the Indian political leaders had this very Fabian Socialist idea," says Shikha Dalmia, a senior analyst at Reason Foundation and native of India. "And that completely thwarted the entrepreneurship of the country."

For decades would-be entrepreneurs staggered under the weight of corruption and bureaucracy. Want to import a computer for your business? You'd have to get permission from a bureaucrat. Want to sell food from a small cart? You'd need all kinds of licenses. 

But in the 1990s, India emerged as a high-tech powerhouse. What changed?

"In the 1990s India started liberalizing its economy," says Dalmia, "and it did three things: cut taxes, liberalized trade, and deregulated business." Although they failed to cut the kind of red tape that entangled Slumdog's orphans, the reforms did make it easier for more Indians to start businesses and hire employees.

"One IT company doesn't just employ computer professionals," says Dalmia. "It also needs landscaping services, cleaning services, and restaurants. There was this tremendous spillover effect that allowed people to lift themselves out of poverty."

Since the early 1990s, India has cut its poverty rate in half. About 300 million Indians-equivalent to the population of the entire United States-escaped the hunger and deprivation of extreme poverty thanks to pro-market reforms that increased economic activity.

Yet here in America we're turning away from market reform. Says Dalmia, "It's just this great conundrum that at the same time that deregulation and markets have produced such dramatic results in India, they are falling into suspicion in America." Dalmia's prescription for India is at odds with what politicians have chosen to "stimulate" the United States. "What India needs to do is continue apace with its liberalization effort, but expand it to include the poor. Release them from the shackles of government corruption and government bureaucracy."

"Slumdog Thousandaire" is written and produced by Ted Balaker. The director of photography is Alex Manning.

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  1. “In the 1990s India started liberalizing its economy,” says Dalmia, “and it did three things: cut taxes, liberalized trade, and deregulated business.”

    Indians are just cowboy capitalists living in yesterday’s world. The future is countries like Japan, France, the UK and Germany that practice humaine forms of socialism. Places like India, Singapore and the Celtic robber Ireland have no future in this world. –

  2. Where are my Friday Unfunnies?

  3. Hiding from your cruel and cutting comments.

  4. Slumdog is a good movie, but let’s put the blame where it squarely belongs and that is on Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi. When he took over though “Peaceful Means” there was a possibility to industralize the textile manufacturing business. India had long been famous for silk and cotton. He said it would be better, and employ more people, if the large mills were not allowed and millions of spinning wheels and hand looms were kept busy. That gave Norma Rae Webster something to complain about. Had Gandhi not lived, or had he made the right decision, India would be rich and Norman Rae would have been a Slumdog.

  5. I seriously need a good thread to distract myself from being massively hungover…

  6. Ivan,

    You mean the movie wasn’t really the whole truth about Ghandi? I am shocked shocked.

  7. domo,

    Let me help:

    Post-Racial, My Ass

    My gut reaction is that this ought to warrant being questioned by the secret service to make sure the cartoonist isn’t actually threatening assassination here.

    (Note to would-be zomg free speech naysayers: I have been a member of the ACLU for the better part of a decade).

  8. SF,

    1. You have the wrong thread.

    2. Please go back to the other thread and repost with a better explination. I can’t tell if you object to the cartoon or not.

  9. I am somehow not shocked at all that the guy was an ACLU member. Considering the groups shoddy record on civil liberties, you know?

  10. SF,

    1. You have the wrong thread.

    Rule #1 of Hit and Run
    There is no wrong thread – especially if you are discussing zombies.

  11. John,

    I was just help entertain domo. The other thread did a good job already of taking apart all the assumptions you have to make to read that cartoon as racist.

    But, as for what I think… a good rule of thumb is that the comment I post from another forum is usually the one I think is the stupidest.

  12. Who would win in a fight: a 200 pound chimp, or a fast zombie?

  13. Also, the fact that SF goes to feministing is disturbiing.

  14. beat me to it Warty

  15. John Says: “Indians are just cowboy capitalists living in yesterday’s world. The future is countries like Japan, France, the UK and Germany that practice humaine forms of socialism. Places like India, Singapore and the Celtic robber Ireland have no future in this world.”

    First: It’s “humane” — do Indians have to teach you everything?

    Second: Are you talking about the same Japan that is coming out of a Lost Decade by once again cutting spending and lowering the high debt-to-GDP ratio that had stifled it’s economy through the 1990s?

    And the same France which has an unemployment rate in the double digits and is experiencing a net emigration to other countries, including, presumably, Ireland?

    And the same Germany that after years of stagnation has been finally forced to cut public sector jobs to get its deficit under controls?

    And the same England whose National Health System provides notoriously inferior service and is still going bankrupt (if that term has any meaning in a socialist system)?

    O.K. Thanks for your “humaine” insights.

  16. a 200 pound chimp, or a fast zombie?

    Did zombie used to be a feminist? or the chimp?

  17. SF,

    Forgive my confusion. I didn’t think you would have a problem with the cartoon. That is what puzzled me.

    Warty,

    The Chimp every time. Chimps are monsters. There is a reason why our ancesters left the forrests and moved to the savanahs; the chimps kicked our ass. This may be an urban myth, but I have heard that pound for pound a chimp is four times stronger than a man. That means a 200 lb chimp is equivilent of an 800 pound in shape man.

  18. Also, the fact that SF goes to feministing is disturbiing.

    I do want has to be done. If you want to call me a hero… well, I’ll try and be humble.

  19. SDesi,

    I was being sarcastic. Sorry to suck you in. You are absolutely correct.

  20. Did zombie used to be a feminist? or the chimp?

    Nothing can survive against a feminist zombie. The shrieks alone will kill most men.

  21. John,

    Forgive my confusion. I didn’t think you would have a problem with the cartoon. That is what puzzled me.

    And forgive me if I sounded like a dick. I’ve been up since 1am and the clues I try and inject to confirm jocularity sometimes falter when I’m sleep-deprived.

  22. ‘Who would win in a fight: a 200 pound chimp, or a fast zombie?’

    Probably a draw, in the sense that the chimp would soon be able to kill the zombie, but in the meantime the zombie would be able to get in at least one bite, turning the chimp itself into a zombie. This assumes, of course, that despite its superior speed, the zombie has merely human strength.

  23. Chimp v. Zombie

    The chimp. A full grown chimp can dismember a healthy man (they are all muscle.) A zombie, even a fresh one, wouldn’t be much of a problem. But what if the chimp could get the zombie bug? A fast zombie chimp, strong and able to climb? We’d be roundly fucked.

    The only thing on our side? Zombie tigers hate zombie chimps. And that’s not opinion, that’s SCIENCE!

  24. Max, we were both so right, I think we stunned them.

  25. Who would win in a fight: a 200 pound chimp, or a fast zombie?

    I don’t think you quite understand how strong chimps are. I’ve worked with pigtail macaques, and they are relatively small and dangerous enough. Chimps can–literally–rip your arms off. The chimp would tear the zombie apart. But…if the zombie got a bite in, we’d have a zombie chimp.

    A fast zombie chimp would be the ultimate killing machine, second only to a fast zombie elephant.

  26. Actually, when I think about it, a fast zombie sperm whale would probably take the cake.

    ZOMBIE DICK

  27. Zombie sharks with jet packs.

  28. I love fridays

  29. Zombie orcas would destroy zombie sharks.

    You know what I want to see? Zombie kittens.

    I CAN HAZ BRAINZ?

  30. OK, so what if the fast zombie chimps get into Jurassic Park? Could they team up to take the T-Rexes? What about the velociraptors?

    Fuck, zombie raptors. We’re fucked.

  31. I never got the whole “chimps are cute thing”. They always looked like be nasty, mean sobs to me, athough a chimp in a suit is always funny. It never gets old. Even Gorillas are not cute. They are awe inspiring. Your zombie silverback, now there is a monster worth fearing.

  32. At least I’m distracted, but i feel like a zombie chimp pulled my arm off and beat me with it last night. Russian Vodka Room – ugh.

  33. Fuck, zombie raptors. We’re fucked.

    The only saving grace is that they would lose their pack-hunting instinct. I much more fear the zombie T-Rex or Allosaurus.

    Of course, what I most fear is Zombie Real Holographic Simulated Evil Lincoln.

  34. Look. It’s severely off-topic, so just ignore it if you don’t want to go… but…

    Our Feminist Ideals vs. Our Feminist Lives

    It’s them talking about living up to their own ideals. The number one complaint? That they don’t correct the people around them enough when they perceive sexism.

    Can you imagine if you thought your number one problem is that you don’t kvetch and harangue people about libertarianism enough, droning on and on about it to people that have heard it all before? If you thought your biggest problem is that you are not monomaniacal enough? Mind-blowing.

  35. Zombie Real Holographic Simulated Evil Lincoln

    Me too. That guy’s a mega-dick.

  36. Look, NutraSweet, you may be sleep-deprived, but that doesn’t excuse your attempts to derail my Futurama tangents with your Fisting…uh, Feministing tangents.

  37. SugerFree,

    These are the same women who bitch and whine about never getting dates and when they do get dates how their men are always boring. Imagine dating a woman whose biggest concern in life is making sure she harrangs the people around her about sexism enough. Hell these chicks can’t even be lesbian. Even dykes won’t put up with that shit.

  38. My number one problem is that I make myself tolerable to be around, I dunno about y’all.

  39. It’s so cute that you think that, Warty. The smell alone…

  40. Me too! My partner is a feminist, but he definitely gets sick of me always pointing out the things in our society that are sexist, racist, classist, heteronormative, etc. I often get the “here she goes again…” vibe from him, which upsets me, puts a strain on our relationship, and also stifles any potential for intelligent discourse on the matter. So, I’ve been silencing myself more, which is not good and not very feminist, I know.
    Also, sometimes I feel bad about my body.
    Also, sometimes I enjoy watching really un-feminist television or movies, even though there are countless ways in which I recognize that they are offensive.

    Fave so far – Odds her boyfriend dies from suicide?

  41. John,

    OK, seriously, last one I swear…

    These are the same women who bitch and whine about never getting dates and when they do get dates how their men are always boring.

    Why are so many of my 30-something, powerful, independent, educated, successful, working female friends single?

    Gentlewomyn! Start your rationalizations! Run, run from the obvious!

  42. domo,

    Touchy, mouthy, defensive, with body image issues and a propensity to watch/read stuff that makes her feel guilty. Doesn’t that sound like a dream woman to you? I bet self-loathing men are lined up around the block to date her.

    This is the kind of woman who can’t understand why the boyfriend that “needed space” when he broke up with her gets married 6 months later.

  43. To be slightly serious here, domo’s quoted example is a person who has determined that everyone else is wrong except her.

    Yeah, that’s exactly the kind of person you’d want to date.

  44. Worth it to get a login there and troll? My hangover is GONE!

  45. Two zombie feminists, one skull

    Think about it.

  46. domo, don’t you know that Vicodin is the best hangover cure?

  47. Feministing’s banhammer is like feministing’s love, fast and hard.

  48. almost 11 am and no friday funnies. Have we killed it with our combined hate? Have the FF’s wilted under our collective dissaproving glare?

  49. things in our society that are sexist, racist, classist, heteronormative,

    I have my chin on the muzzle; all I have to do is get my toe on the trigger.

  50. No vikies in my cab – i usually use old fashioned aspirin.

  51. That’s better Futurama-ing, NutraSweet.

    I have my chin on the muzzle; all I have to do is get my toe on the trigger.

    Uh, an 18 inch barrel doesn’t require toes at all. What the hell are you using, a trap gun?

  52. I was thinking more along the lines of posing as over the top bitchy fem – just to see how far I could go and get approval.

  53. trap gun… LMAO

  54. domo,

    Study the posts of SarahMC (she’s on Jezebel too.) None of them are more crabby and doctrinaire. She’s like a Women’s Studies course that taught itself to post.

  55. Speaking of trap guns, I’ve been thinking about getting a Saiga 12. Does anyone have one? I’m thinking it would be a blast to take it to the skeet range and freak the shit out of the rich fucks there with their $20,000 engraved Benellis.

  56. Some of us take trap and skeet seriously, Warty, you fucking asshole. By the way, that sounds like a great idea.

    And they’re usually engraved Brownings.

  57. Uh, an 18 inch barrel doesn’t require toes at all.

    18 inch barrel? Do you support your H&R habit by robbing 7-elevens?

  58. 18 inch barrel? Do you support your H&R habit by robbing 7-elevens?

    18 inch barrel is legal under the 1934 NFA. Anything less is a sawed-off and gets BAFTA on your ass. I have a Winchester 1300 with the 18.5″ barrel.

  59. My partner is a feminist, but he…

    So much wrong with this phrasing.

  60. Men can be feminists too, Nick. What are you, some sort of heteronormative sexist jerk? Huh? Is that what you are?

  61. Where the fuck is Urkobold when you need him?

  62. Wherever ProL has gotten himself to.

  63. Reason’s busy pushing its own ideological agenda with a perfectly good movie.

    And if you don’t like Obama, you’re a racist.

  64. SF–Is Feministing how you punish yourself for becoming a librarian? Surely there are other methods that cause less permanent damage and reduced scarring.

  65. Men can be feminists too, Nick. What are you, some sort of heteronormative sexist jerk? Huh? Is that what you are?

    Apparently.

  66. Speaking of the joe-duplicate up there, since apparently has left us, whatever happened to Jennifer? You never see her anymore.

  67. Since when did joe leave. Didn’t he post yesterday on the cartoon thread?

  68. As for Jennifer, I think she got her own blog.

  69. “Since when did joe leave. Didn’t he post yesterday on the cartoon thread?”

    REad that thread. Sometime last night, he makes a very dramatic show of leaving. What is Jennifer’s blog? I never agreed with her but she was a better liberal presence than Joe ever was.

  70. John,
    That could have just been a joe-spoof. It happens. I’ve been guilty of it on two occasions (both of which were a long time ago.)

  71. A long time ago, relatively speaking, of course. To long-time posters it probably seems fairly recent.

  72. JW,

    I find their cluelessness hilarious. Their hypocrisy is so bold and naked, I can’t help but laugh. They’ve been sort of quiet lately, but V-Day always sets them off.

  73. Economist,

    I don’t think so. Joe is really hard to spoof. I have gone back and forth with him more than anyone here. I think it was him. If it wasn’t him, it was the best spoof I have ever seen.

  74. Huh, so joe did leave.

    Well, screw him. He was getting obnoxious and shrill to point of self-parody.

    Actually, ever since the election, he seems to have given up actually arguing in favor of essentially saying, “We (the left) won. Nyah nyah! Suck on it!”

  75. Man she lists urkobold as a favorite link. I am not sure what to say to that.

  76. So I read it over, and basically joe’s leaving because he’s pissed off that people here are arguing against the bailout and suggesting that government actions contributed to the housing bubble (with a lot of hyperbole thrown in).

  77. John,
    Who lists Urkobold as a favorite link?

  78. “Actually, ever since the election, he seems to have given up actually arguing in favor of essentially saying, “We (the left) won. Nyah nyah! Suck on it!”

    True. There are plenty of people like Chicago Tom and Warren who give a half way reasonable version of the Democratic position without engaging in the kind of shenandigans that Joe did.

    Joe is not a dumb guy. He just won’t give any ground and winds up making a parody of himself. Just once, if he would say “that is a good point but what about this?” he would be a lot better off.

  79. domo,

    if you do decide to go on there, please write: ‘Don’t ever change, you gals are my comic relief’ Sit back and chuckle at the sounds of the Guiney hens swarming.

  80. Jennifer lists urkobold as one of her favorite links. What happned to the Jennifer I used to know?

  81. Alan,

    How about just the lyrics to that Billy Joel song “Don’t Go Changing”?

  82. How about just the lyrics to that Billy Joel song “Don’t Go Changing”?

    I got me mum an ipod knock off for Christmas, and I bought a Joel Greatest Hits collection as part of the musical selection. I have been dimissive of Joel for decades now, but I realized upon listening that I really liked everything before ‘Uptown Girl’, and hated everything after. It is like Christie Brinkley was some kind of Uno like undead anti-muse who killed the man’s creativity.

  83. Christy killed Joel’s career. He was done. He actually had some talent. He was a very clever lyricist. His songs really tell stories and are often quite funny. Very few song writers can do that. Then when Brinkley came along he just got pathetic.

  84. Uno

    Ono, of course.

    Uno, I remember a group of us at fifteen, one other guy and two girls, we all sucked at poker so we played Strip Uno instead. One girl in particular, she wasn’t a little skinny thing but an Italian beauty with curves and ripe melons. Damn.

  85. My wife, sister- and brother-in-law and I play a lot of cards, especially spades. We found out the hard way that it you play Uno strategically (rather than just slapping down cards when you get them,) a single hand can last 3 hours.

  86. which thread is joe’s farewell on?

  87. What will I do now that joe’s gone? I know longer get to enjoy the daily enlightenment of his posts! I can’t live in a world where joe doesn’t post on H&R! We have what might be called a Cartman-Kyle relationship (even though I’m usually right, while Cartman, my counterpart in this analogy, is usually full of shit).

  88. domoarrigato,
    That would be on the “See monkey, go berserk” thread.

  89. which thread is joe’s farewell on?

    Monkey-thus-Obama cartoon thread.

  90. Where’s my fucking credit for pushing him over the edge, you assholes?

  91. Obviously, to bring back joe’s daily enlightenment, we’ll need to start agreeing with him more.

    “Come on people,
    let’s be people now.
    We need to all agree
    with joe, people, now.
    Come on people,
    let’s be people now.”

  92. Episiarch,
    Don’t take credit, everyone knows John pushed him over the edge!

  93. So has anyone seen this movie yet? Does it live up to the hype?

  94. “Where’s my fucking credit for pushing him over the edge, you assholes?”

    Wow that is a good point. That is one hell of an accomplishment. My hat is off to you. I did everything but call the guy a child molester and could never put him over the edge.

    In all fairness I think you were just the straw that broke the camel’s back. Joe, for all of his faults, is smarter and more honest than your typical liberal. For that reason, I am sure his BO disillusionment is hitting him harder and sooner than most. His leaving, I think, is just a symptom of that as much as anything.

  95. Joe, for all of his faults, is smarter and more honest than your typical liberal.

    That’s a strange view to have of a guy who was absolutely unable to admit to any mistake or fault (either his or those he supported) and would twist harder than Chubby Checker to do so.

  96. “That’s a strange view to have of a guy who was absolutely unable to admit to any mistake or fault (either his or those he supported) and would twist harder than Chubby Checker to do so.”

    That statement says nothing about my opinion of Joe and everything about my opinion of liberals. I didn’t say Joe was smart or honest. I said he was smarter and more honest than most liberals. There is a difference.

  97. I, for one, am sorry to see him go. He was quite fun to argue with – and was usually quite reasonable – even if he never admitted he was wrong. You always knew when you scored, he’d start talking about something else. RIP

  98. Everything wrong with the modern liberal is pretty much summed up in that vilest of philosophies: utilitarianism.

    (Which I was bitching about one time, but accidentally typed “unitarianism.” Don’t really have a beef with them.)

  99. To go back to the thread topic. Damn Indian women are hot.

  100. Damn Indian women are hot.

    Agreed. Except for the ones they send to my campus though, they all look like marmosets. I mean, WTF India? Why you gotta hate like that?

  101. India wisely exports their ugly chicks and keeps the hot ones for Bollywood and outsourced customer service jobs. You can’t fault them for it.

  102. My wife works with a young Indian woman named Shamir. She is about five feet tall, beatiful hair and skin and curves that don’t end. I think it depends on what part of India they are from. The ones from the North seem to be the hot ones.

  103. Ah, sort of like Kentucky and bourbon then. Have fun with your Maker’s. Snerk.

  104. Damn Indian women are hot.

    I had an Indian girlfriend way back in my mid-20’s and yes, she wuz damn hot. Pretty much open to most things sexually; there was a definite “make the man happy” vibe, even though she was very westernized and highly educated. I can’t say I complained and have had a serious thing for them since.

    I ran into her a few years ago (twice in 3 weeks, and never before or since) and she looked as good, if not better, than she did 15 years earlier.

    One thing about Indian women, tho’ is that they tend to have squared-off butts. It’s the strangest thing.

    There’s a ton of them at GW University and they tend to travel in packs and most are fairly hot, so I guess this is where the hot ones are going.

  105. John,

    If that’s true, then why are the ugly Southern ones hairy?

    Yo, fuck Darwin. Hair + Heat? Intelligent design FAIL. Evolution FAIL.

    so I guess this is where the hot ones are going.

    [shakes fist at JW]

  106. “I had an Indian girlfriend way back in my mid-20’s and yes, she wuz damn hot. Pretty much open to most things sexually; there was a definite “make the man happy” vibe, even though she was very westernized and highly educated. I can’t say I complained and have had a serious thing for them since.”

    And you didn’t convert to hinduism and marry her why? If I had been you, I would have been throwing my steaks out the window and putting up idols all over the house.

  107. Where’s my fucking credit for pushing him over the edge, you assholes?

    You get the love for it, dog, no worries.

    joe *could* be reasonable, but more often than not he was too interested in being an obnoxious ass-clown to score points. That, and his dog-whistle-racism creds were tiresome.

  108. “joe *could* be reasonable, but more often than not he was too interested in being an obnoxious ass-clown to score points. That, and his dog-whistle-racism creds were tiresome.”

    No kidding. You need some people to disagree to make the conversation interesting. But Joe was never interested in discussing things as much as he just wanted to score partisian points.

  109. I thought joe was on a cruise. He’s never coming back?

  110. Naga, go read this thread.

  111. And you didn’t convert to hinduism and marry her why? If I had been you, I would have been throwing my steaks out the window and putting up idols all over the house.

    She was actually 7th Day Adventist; she grew up on an British university. We talked about getting married, but I was entirely too young and way too stupid to be involved in that kind of thing. I still kinda kick myself, but c’est la vie. She ended up marrying some Indian slacker and divorcing him after 2 years. She liked the white boys better.

    If that’s true, then why are the ugly Southern ones hairy?

    She was from the south, Puna, and wasn’t too hairy. Still, she would rub off most of her body hair with a pumice stone. Verrrry smooth skin. But alas, not all of the hair, knowwadimean, knowwadimean. This was the 80’s after all.

  112. Naga,

    joe | February 19, 2009, 9:20pm | #
    I’m just visiting.

    This thread is reminding me why I bailed.

    joe | February 19, 2009, 9:43pm | #
    @ Courtjester:

    So…would I show this to a colleague that you would identify as African-American

    Oh, isn’t that precious?

    Yup. Out of here.

  113. Still, she would rub off most of her body hair with a pumice stone.

    I’ll be in my bunk.

  114. “Still, she would rub off most of her body hair with a pumice stone.

    I’ll be in my bunk.”

    Best post of the day. So, JW, you wouldn’t have you know taken any videos of her doing this, you know just for old times sake that you might want to you know post on yourtube or anything would you? Just asking.

  115. Am I the only one who thinks its funny that joe, err, lost it on the “See Monkey, Go Berserk” thread.

  116. Now RC, what if joe is black? he’ll get offended…

  117. Sorry John. No vids, just memories. Precious, fun-filled memories to fill my unhappily-married-in-my-mid-40’s-with-exhausting-children life with longing and bitter, bitter resentment.

  118. I understand JW. I understand all too well.

  119. R C–I hadn’t even thought of it that way, but yeah, that is funny.

    He’ll be back. Mark my words.

  120. RC,

    I think it could have been any thread. I am telling you it is BO dissillusionment syndrome. As St. Theresa says, “Prayers answered cause more tears than those that are unanswered”.

  121. JW, I’m going to list your mistakes.

    1. Marriage.
    2. Children.
    3. Children.
    4. Children.
    5. Marriage.
    6. Children.

  122. I understand JW. I understand all too well.

    Yeah, I keep asking myself, I married an American woman, why exactly, when there are all of these fabulous mail-order brides available? It’s OK, just be my loving and non-judgmental wife for a couple years and *then* you can go off and be a prostitute or whatever.

    I could really go for a little Asian-style make-the-man-happy these days. Just for a couple weeks, I swear!

    :::sigh:::

  123. JW, I’m going to list your mistakes.

    Oh, you don’t have to. I list them all the time. Those, plus a few more doozies.

    I’m going to go out and buy something either large and electronic or small and fast this weekend, assuming the wife lets me.

  124. “Yeah, I keep asking myself, I married an American woman, why exactly, when there are all of these fabulous mail-order brides available? It’s OK, just be my loving and non-judgmental wife for a couple years and *then* you can go off and be a prostitute or whatever.”

    Two words man, Russian bride. It really is a business transaction for them but it would be a nice few years. I am starting to think that marriage is going to have some interesting issues as time goes forward. For most of human history people were dead before they were 50. Even then most men who lived a long life went through a couple of wives who died in child birth. People just were not married very long and if they were they lived in one area and there wasn’t much temptation.

    Now I am not a believer in singularity. But I do think it is possible that our lifespans could go up to say 150 or 200 years before in my lifetime and that even if they don’t get that high the quality of life for say a 95 year old will be a hell of a lot higher then than now. So are people really going to stay married a hundred years? Can you do that?

  125. So are people really going to stay married a hundred years? Can you do that?

    It only feels like a hundred years, John.

    I do know a few couples who have been together for 50+ years and all I can do is stare blankly at that statement.

    I maintain that once you turn 40, you’re only waiting to die.

  126. So are people really going to stay married a hundred years? Can you do that?

    I was depressed enough already today. Thanks.

  127. Oh, pish-posh. I’ve been with my wife 17 years and I’m a complete asshole. I’d be perfectly fine spending a 100 years with her. Hell, I’d look forward to it.

  128. “I maintain that once you turn 40, you’re only waiting to die.”

    I think that is a bit strong. My parents were married for 37 years before my mother died and they didn’t act like they were dead. But they also had separate lives and interests to some degree. But 37 years is not a 100. Not to sound like Hugh Hefner or anything but I think the monogomous model is going to evolve over the next century.

  129. SF–You chose wisely. Me? Not so much.

    Now we’re even for the Indian girlfriend.

  130. JW,

    My wife is like Marty Shottenheimer. Shottenheimer went 11-5 every year and got to the playoffs but never could win a game. Now how can you fire a guy who wins 11 or 12 games every year? But what about the Super Bowl?

  131. Jesus Christ, JW, who did you marry? But more importantly, WHY?

  132. John–I’m just being cynical, sorta. I’m in a period of my life where it’s filled with “have to” (to quote Parenthood). I’m living it for my kids now, not for me. It’s important, but not all that fun.

    It’ll turn around eventually as they grow up and move away and I’ll get to indulge in self-fulfillment once again, but right now, I don’t have a very sunny outlook on things.

    That, and only 5 episodes of BSG left. What the fuck am I going to watch now? I’m down to just House and Lost.

  133. Jesus Christ, JW, who did you marry? But more importantly, WHY?

    Why? I’m kinda blurry on that. I may need a session or two to recover the repressed memories.

    My wife is like Marty Shottenheimer. Shottenheimer went 11-5 every year and got to the playoffs but never could win a game. Now how can you fire a guy who wins 11 or 12 games every year? But what about the Super Bowl?

    Now, all I can do is picture you married to Marty Shottenhiemer. Kinky.

  134. JW,

    Fringe is getting better. Californication on DVD will satisfy a craving for (non-porn) adult TV. You could hulu the first epi of Dollhouse and catch up. It’s doomed, but it will pass the time. And, no matter how bad I feel, The Venture Bros. makes it all better.

    And I’m a lucky motherfucker wife-wise. I don’t mean to gloat. I mean, our biggest marital strife is that she doesn’t think it’s a good time for me to by a used sports car. “The pain, the pain.”

  135. I’m out. Thank you all for a fine week of funny.

  136. Episiarch | February 20, 2009, 2:47pm | #

    Jesus Christ, JW, who did you marry? But more importantly, WHY?

    SarahMC?

  137. Fringe is getting better. Californication on DVD will satisfy a craving for (non-porn) adult TV. You could hulu the first epi of Dollhouse and catch up. It’s doomed, but it will pass the time. And, no matter how bad I feel, The Venture Bros. makes it all better.

    Californication? The Duchovney thing? Huh, I wouldn’t have guessed that to be any good. I may just go out and buy the Venture Brothers DVDs after all. Thanks for the idea.

    Yes, you are lucky in that arena. Fucker.

  138. she doesn’t think it’s a good time for me to by a used sports car.

    I have a fleet of used sports cars.

    It’s ALWAYS a good time to buy a used sports car. Tell her I said it’s okay.

  139. Got to give props to epi. But many of us deserve some credit. Lord knows, if I thought writng every other letter initalics pissed him off I would have been willing to do it.

  140. I’m going to go out and buy something either large and electronic or small and fast this weekend, assuming the wife lets me.

    Few things are faster than a .308 slug newly liberated from its case via the miracle of explosive combustion. And they’re small, too!

    Yes, I’m obsessing over my search for an M1A Scout.

  141. What the fuck am I going to watch now?

    Two words: Mad Men. Get the DVD/Blu-Ray. Worth it.

  142. Speaking of shows, there is a new procedural with a really dumb idea as its basis, pairing a cop with a writer of detective fiction. Apparently, there is suppose to be some give and take, and the detective is female and the writer male so I guess the network (ABC?) is banking on there being some sort of chemistry between the two that will sustain an audience’s interest. There is one big flaw in this, besides the lame premise, the actress playing the detective is pretty fucking ugly. I rarely comment on women in the negative attraction range, if you are skinny enough, I don’t really care and I will likely have no problems even dating you, but, damn, they are paying buck to the cross eyed, weirdly shaped nosed girl that always gets overlooked at the Ranch when the John does his picking.

  143. While on the subject: one thing I noticed about this actress but forgot to point out. She has short hair, and that certainly doesn’t help. White girls, listen: ninety percent of you cannot pull off short hair because your skulls have the symmetry of a banged up potato. You need all the hair you can muster to hide this fact.

  144. There is one big flaw in this, besides the lame premise, the actress playing the detective is pretty fucking ugly.

    Are you talking about that one with Captain Tightpants (Nathan Fillion) coming up on ABC? I thought the woman was pretty damn cute. Never heard of her before, but she seemed easy on the eyes.

  145. Two words: Mad Men. Get the DVD/Blu-Ray. Worth it.

    Good advice. I caught one ep and liked it quite a lot, but I couldn’t manage to catch it on again. (This was pre-DVR)

  146. I agree with you JW. I think the chick in that show is pretty damn hot. The show looks stupid but there is nothing ugly about her.

  147. whaaa -?

    You guys are playing with me. Her eyes are way too close together. She looks like an twelve year old boy with a bit of palsy.

  148. “Now RC, what if joe is black? he’ll get offended…”
    He isn’t. And in my own experience, most black people aren’t as keen as joe to get offended by cartoons in newspapers.
    “RIP”
    He’s not dead, he’s resting!

  149. alan,
    What are you saying!? Are you blind, man?

  150. Of course globalization has improved the state of the third world; it’s done so at the expense of a viable American middle class.

    It’s for popes, angels and history to decide the righteousness of that.

  151. Liberals would go, “Bah! More trickle-down economics.”

    Reason needs to release a video related to the “Bush Regulatory Kiss-Off” article.

  152. Hey, Sandra Bernhard! Where have you been all these . . . oh, you’re not Bernhard, you’re that, uhm, hot actress, er, could you stop waving your arms around like that, those kids are crying. They think you are a skeleton or a ghost or something.

  153. Actually, this picture of her (Stana Katic) is pretty fucking hot

    Note the long hair that softens both the forehead and the odd fall off in her otherwise angular jaw line displayed in the last picture.

  154. alan–Your past few posts are going to make me doubt your credibility from here on out. Your legitimacy on H&R is in deep, deep danger with this line of thinking. This could actually make you our new joe.

    She’s hawt; short hair, long hair, brazillian, whatever. You’re just going to have to deal with it.

    And dear God has Sandra had an assload of work done, if that’s indeed her. It doesn’t even look like her.

  155. They Liberulized the Indian economy??!?!?!!!! Now teh evul corpurashuns have got teh power

    Whats wurst is that now the Indjuns have big corpurashuns like Tata

    http://www.tata.com

    and Mittal

    http://www.arcelormittal.com

    and they’re makin cars for Indjuns

    so you might think thats good that the Indjuns are gettin richer but actually,
    hmmm

    It’s bad for the enviroment,

    so Indjuns should stay poor!!!!!!!!!

    goddamn corpurashuns

  156. JW | February 21, 2009, 1:13pm | #
    alan–Your past few posts are going to make me doubt your credibility from here on out. Your legitimacy on H&R is in deep, deep danger with this line of thinking. This could actually make you our new joe.

    Dude, just asks the chicks, presentation is everything.

  157. oh, almost forgot,

    This could actually make you our new joe.

    The way joe was treated by a lot of H&Runners, including at least one editor that he was pretty abusive to, that would make me the alphadawg.

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