Corruption

Obama's 'My Pet Goat' Moment

Why did it take Barack Obama 48 hours to renounce Rod Blagojevich?

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"I was appalled and disappointed by what we heard in those transcripts," Barack Obama said Thursday about the documented misconduct of the governor of Illinois. That's right. He was appalled. And it only took him 48 hours to realize it.

If the U.S. attorney is to be believed, we had Rod Blagojevich talking about auctioning off Obama's old Senate seat. We had him trying to extort a newspaper. We had him trying to parlay a tollway project into a $500,000 contribution from a highway contractor. We even had him trying to shakedown a children's hospital.

The reaction from fellow Illinois Democrats was swift and severe. Lt. Gov. Pat Quinn demanded that the governor step aside. U.S. Sen. Dick Durbin urged the legislature to call a special election to fill the Senate seat. Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan proposed to ask the Supreme Court to disqualify the governor from carrying out his duties.

But Obama had a "My Pet Goat" moment, freezing up in the face of the shock. "I don't think it would be appropriate for me to comment on the issue at this time," he said. "It's a sad day for Illinois." You'd have thought the Bears had failed to make the playoffs.

That was the first day. The second day he was only slightly less tepid, with his office issuing a statement saying, "The president-elect agrees with Lt. Gov. Quinn that under the current circumstances it is difficult for the governor to effectively do his job and serve the people of Illinois."

Would it be "difficult" for Blagojevich to serve the people? Yes, kind of like it was "difficult" for the Titanic to continue its voyage. Understatement is one thing. What Obama exhibited was more like lockjaw.

By Thursday, he sounded like the agent of change that we remember: "We have to reclaim a tradition of public service that is about people and their lives and their hopes and their dreams, and it isn't about what's in it for me. And I think the public trust has been violated. Let me be absolutely clear, I do not think that the governor, at this point, can effectively serve the people of Illinois." Would it have been reckless to say that when the story first broke?

In the taped conversations, Blagojevich expressed hope that he could get a Cabinet position if he gave the seat to Obama aide Valerie Jarrett but later fumed that "they're not willing to give me anything except appreciation." Another aide, David Axelrod, now says he was wrong when he said last month that the president-elect and the governor had discussed possible appointees. But Blagojevich's comments suggest that someone from the Obama camp was communicating on the matter.

If that's so, it doesn't prove that Obama is just another crooked Chicago pol. But it is a reminder that though he is not of the Democratic machine, he has never been exactly against it. Former congressman and federal judge Abner Mikva said of Blagojevich, "You don't get through Chicago like Barack Obama did unless you know how to avoid people like that." Note the verb: not "challenge" but "avoid." His approach to old-style politics was wary coexistence.

Obama's risk-averse reaction confirms he is sometimes too cautious and cerebral for his own good. That flaw has occasionally surfaced before. Asked in one debate what he would do in the event of a terrorist attack, he offered, "Well, the first thing we'd have to do is make sure that we've got an effective emergency response, something that this administration failed to do when we had a hurricane in New Orleans." Hillary Clinton begged to differ: "I think a president must move as swiftly as is prudent to retaliate."

This is the downside of what is best about Obama: his careful, deliberate approach to decision-making. In the normal course of events, it's far superior to the impulsive style of John McCain, which gave us Sarah Palin and "today we are all Georgians."

But Obama came to public attention because of a speech, at the 2004 Democratic convention, that showed he was capable not only of clear thought but of genuine passion. This week—in the face of a scandal involving his state, his party, and his Senate seat—that passion was absent.

You can understand why a shrewd, ambitious young state senator would be reluctant to renounce the political culture and the political establishment that spawned Rod Blagojevich. But can someone tell Obama he's been elected president?

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  1. Oh please!

    He didn’t denounce the guy fast enough for your tastes?

    Maybe he was busy. Maybe he was tired. Maybe his aides were trying to calm him down from the obscenity laden rant that issues whenever the guy’s name came up.

    We want presidents to move slowly and deliberately. In fact the slower, the better! Inaction would be perfect! And here we have a magazine claiming to be libertarian (everyone drink!) publishing an article criticizing a president for not acting quickly and decisively!

    Talk about not knowing what’s good for them…

  2. He had to figure out what his response should be and it took 48 hours for him to have enough of a reaction sample.

    Considering how much the American people have allowed themselves be pushed around, truly, that’s probably the reaction he should have. Hell, if we’re drinking Kool-Aid and think he really is “change” we won’t care about the gov’s pay to play scheming. But if we get pissed at yet another in your face, business as usual crooked pol, then he has to say something else. And, it probably should be that way; our elected representatives should represent the public’s views if it’s within the law. Problem is most of our representatives have been willfully ignorant of right, wrong and legal for so long that most Americans seem to have forgotten how to hold their feet to fire.

    Obama’s reluctance to pigeon hole himself is simply what we’ve let him get away with.

  3. Can’t Chapman find something a little more substantive to piss and moan about?

  4. Steve Chapman just analogized 9/11 with Rod Blago.

  5. a speech, at the 2004 Democratic convention, that showed he was capable not only of clear thought but of genuine passion

    Oh, please. The guy’s got a pretty good line of feelgood blather, but passion? Give me a break.

    -jcr

  6. Still waiting for the other shoe to drop, or at least fly over Obama’s head.

  7. shoe to drop, or at least fly over Obama’s head

    That Bush moment was funny as hell but Obama seems to have a horseshoe in his ass. Any shoes that might be thrown at him will likely be a perfectly sized pair of Hermes loafers.

  8. too unsubstantive, didn’t read.

  9. Boring – Obama knows that many of his fellow Illinois pols are corrupt. No evidence he’s corrupt himself. Who cares if he took 48 hours to denounce Governor Unpronounceable? Touchy-feely crap.

  10. Flash – President-elect Barack Obama: Still a politician today.

    Film at eleven.

  11. There is plenty to criticize Obama about, but lacking passion is not one of them. “Passionate government” makes me think of several things, none of them good. I want government which is listless, and incapable of action as much as possible. This at least theoretically allows the free market to serve the needs of people. Once government decides to do something it invariably crowds out all the competition. Obama’s risk aversion might be his best attribute.

  12. Obama’s risk-averse reaction confirms he is sometimes too cautious and cerebral for his own good. Maybe in a political sense, in terms of controlling the 24-hour news cycle, but he’s not a candidate any more. In two weeks, is anyone going to remember that he came out with this statetment two weeks ago Thursday instead of two weeks ago Tuesday?

    People on the right said the same thing about his reaction to the financial meltdown and the bailout bill. John McCain, boy, there’s someone who jumped right in and reacted quickly, jetting back to DC and issuing statements about how awesomely he helped lead the negotiations that led to the deal on the bill – right before it collapsed. Man, didn’t Obama look indecisive and flat-footed?

    Uh, no, that’s really not how it worked out, is it?

    That flaw has occasionally surfaced before. Asked in one debate what he would do in the event of a terrorist attack, he offered, “Well, the first thing we’d have to do is make sure that we’ve got an effective emergency response, something that this administration failed to do when we had a hurricane in New Orleans.” Hillary Clinton begged to differ: “I think a president must move as swiftly as is prudent to retaliate.”

    Just wow. Look at what you’re complaining about. Just wow.

  13. “Just wow. Look at what you’re complaining about. Just wow.”

    Look, you can take your time to pull people out of rubble, and you can always hire more cops and firefighters. But if you don’t bomb the shit out of some place that has Muslims immediately, the terrorists will have gotten away with it.

  14. People on the right said the same thing about his reaction to the financial meltdown and the bailout bill. John McCain, boy, there’s someone who jumped right in and reacted quickly, jetting back to DC and issuing statements about how awesomely he helped lead the negotiations that led to the deal on the bill – right before it collapsed. Man, didn’t Obama look indecisive and flat-footed?

    Uh, no, that’s really not how it worked out, is it?

    The huge difference here is that people could be honestly confused about what to do (if anything) during the credit crisis. It is really unbelievable that an Illinois pol would be confused as to whether Blogojewahwah is bent like a sickle.

    That aside, I think this “issue” is as stupid as is humanly possible to produce. I know this is crazy, but perhaps he didn’t pay much attention to the story because he was too busy *transitioning a government*.

  15. Come to think of it, Obama hasn’t condemned the Chicago fire either, nor promised retaliation against O’Leery’s cow.

  16. LMNOP,

    It is really unbelievable that an Illinois pol would be confused as to whether Blogojewahwah is bent like a sickle.

    I don’t think it was confusion, I think it was deliberate.

    The Monday and Tuesday statements are what you say when you’re trying to get someone to resign. Leave him a face-saving explanation, “These accusations have made it impossible for me to carry out the duties of my office.”

    The Wednesday statement is what you say when you realize that he’s not going to resign, and he’s going to have to be pried out of office with a crow bar.

    If you come out with the fire and brimstone right away, and describe resigning as what he should do because he’s guilty, you’re guaranteeing that he won’t resign on his own.

  17. Abdul,

    The descendants of the Chicago Fire victims should be getting reparations. If Mrs. O’Leary’s descendants can’t pay, then Congress needs to shoulder its responsibility and pay the money itself.

  18. John McCain, boy, there’s someone who jumped right in and reacted quickly,…

    Surprise, joe says “Look! Over there! Don’t look at my Dali Bama, look over THERE!!!” when someone says something negative about Obama.

    You can’t have a corrupt political machine such as IL, come from there, and not have at least danced with the beast. It’s not so big a surprise, he’s from Chicago and they have corrupt politicians there and he’s scared to stir the beast. He may not be “of” it, you say, but he came through it. It’s sad, but this is the way the democrat party works. It’s rather funny to see them flail about trying to eat their young when 90% of them would have done essentially the same thing, though most probably not been so blatant about it.

    I know, let’s get Rahm to mail him a dead fish. That’ll solve everything.

    This is “Change” we “need.” Get used to it.

  19. Surprise, joe says “Look! Over there! Don’t look at my Dali Bama, look over THERE!!!” when someone says something negative about Obama.

    That whooshing sensation on your scalp, Other Matt?

    Don’t worry about it.

    Maybe if you weren’t so obsessed about political parties, you might have been able to grasp the really obvious point I was making about different styles of reacting to news.

    But since you’re not, all you can do is wonder what king of crafty point I’m making about Democrats.

    Yawn.

    BTW, I love it when people write “Democrat Party” and then accuse other people of partisanship. Really convincing.

  20. I’m joining the chorus of “Too Unsubstantial, Didn’t Read” henceforth known as TUDR. I suspect we may have to use them again the next time Steve waxes about such nonsensical issues as this, or the BCS…

  21. There’s seven minutes I’ll never get back.

    Why oh why does Reason insist on running Steve Chapman?

  22. Yeah, I hate that “Democrat Party” thing too.
    Especially after hearing Cong. Bob Brady repeat it several times on a Philly talk show recently. Oh, by the way, Cong. Brady is chairman of the Philadelphia Democrat Party.

  23. “But Obama … he was capable not only of clear thought but of genuine passion. This week-in the face of a scandal involving his state, his party, and his Senate seat-that passion was absent. ”

    Seems clear passion was needed in this case, followed by genuine thought. If only he were more than Pres elect he could have put out wanted posters and decks of cards.

  24. Shorter Chapman:

    “Waaaaah, waaaaah, waaaaah”

  25. This kind of partisan hack BS belongs on WND or FOX.

    Does anyone (who isn’t a partisan trying desperately to make a point that isn’t there) really feel that the 9/11 attacks and Rod Blagojevich are in any way on the same level or incident?

  26. That’s not the Rod Blagojevich I knew.

  27. This kind of partisan hack BS belongs on WND or FOX.

    I don’t think this is partisan hackishness, so much as media self-involvement.

    He didn’t come out and make a big show of feeling our pain right away. Barack Obama ranting and raving and denouncing Blagojevich would have made great footage. Instead, we get this boring, deliberate, measured response, like he’s trying to throw cold water on this bombshell!

    No Drama? What fun is that?!?

  28. Come to think of it, Obama hasn’t condemned the Chicago fire either, nor promised retaliation against O’Leery’s cow.

    What do think Morton’s was for?

  29. Oh please!

    He didn’t denounce the guy fast enough for your tastes?

    Given that he ran as the Hope and Change Candidate, with vague promises of reform and clean government, he should have denounced him years ago.

    The fact that he didn’t just adds to my conviction that he is ethically inert. I really don’t expect any better of him.

  30. As someone said (Mark Steyn?), when you start your political career in a terrorist’s living room, what’s a little graft?

  31. As someone said (Mark Steyn?), when you start your political career in a terrorist’s living room, what’s a little graft?

    Gee, think you could work the phrase “Democrat Party” in there somewhere?

    This is who thinks Obama has a problem here – people who are STILL mouthing talking points from the McCain campaign.

  32. We have to reclaim a tradition of public service that is about people and their lives and their hopes and their dreams, and it isn’t about what’s in it for me.

    Who is naive enough to swallow that tripe? Politicians are in the business for themselves. Having the state enforce your will on others is not altruistic. Financial and ego boosting rewards are probably at the top of the list of what pols seek.

  33. Politicians are in the business for themselves.

    Like Ron Paul and Jeff Flake?

    Or just the politicians you disagree with?

    “Everybody does it” is what the Rod Blagojeviches tell themselves.

  34. But it is a reminder that though he is not of the Democratic machine,

    Where is he getting this “not of the machine” nonsense?

    Blago is a non-machine Democrat. His father-in-law is a machine Dem and they hate each other; the Madigans are machine Dems and the mutual hate is there, too.

    Being corrupt doesn’t make you a machine Democrat.

  35. i haven’t renounced blagojevich yet. wanna write an article about that? after all, it seems you have some free time to kill…

  36. Blago is a non-machine Democrat. His father-in-law is a machine Dem and they hate each other

    They do now, but the father-in-law, a Chicago city alderman, was Blagojevich’s original political sponsor. It was only after he became Governor that they had a falling out.

    Blago is very much a Chicago machine pol.

  37. Like Ron Paul and Jeff Flake?
    Yep!

    Or just the politicians you disagree with?
    Nope, all of them. Guess what, I distrust the motives of cops too. Even the “good ones”.

    “Everybody does it” is what the Rod Blagojeviches tell themselves.
    And they’d be correct. Of course there are limits to what the public (and the law) will put up with. Quid pro quo is beyond those limits.

    And yes, my opinions of Saints Obama and Reagan are much the same.

  38. OK, at least you’re consistent.

    I think it’s worthwhile to distinguish between the honest and the corrupt, or you’re just helping to normalize corruption.

  39. Blago was THE machine candidate, but basically walked away from his “debts” to the machine and ran with it. Hence the fallings out with his father in law and other politicians. He’s as dirty and bent as they come, and the reason that there was a push for a consitutional convention in Illinois – so that we could create a means to recall elected officials like him.

    My read of Obama’s delay in substantial response was checking to make damn sure that he knew what his people had done and what contacts there had been before he put himself out there and committed himself to saying that there had been no substantial contacts. If you get out and state something like that, if you are wrong, it will crush people’s belief in your honesty, which is one of the largest assets he has. He didn’t want to risk that asset in haste – if he said nothing happened, he wanted to be certain of that first and not be in a position of either admitting he lied/was wrong or trying to cover it up after the fact.

  40. My read of Obama’s delay in substantial response was checking to make damn sure that he knew what his people had done and what contacts there had been before he put himself out there and committed himself to saying that there had been no substantial contacts.

    I still don’t see why, on day one, he couldn’t have made (a) a full-throated denunciation of Blago and the corrupt political culture in Illinois, (b) an unconditional promise of full cooperation from his staff with prosecutors, (c) a statement that he would have an internal investigation done to see if any unauthorized contacts were made, and (d) a promise that anyone who was found to have done anything even arguably unethical would have the bus backed over them until they were a red smear.

    A little anger over this would go a long way. His pro forma (and, as it happens, false) statement that none of his people had talked to Blago about the Senate seat was a pretty clear signal that this kind of thing just doesn’t really bother him that much.

  41. I’d say the long pause came because Obama and the B-word have a long relationship, and Obama was reluctant to ditch such an acquaintance until it became obvious that no other course of action was politically feasible. And because he didn’t want to jeopardize relations with the B-word’s allies, until most of those allies distanced themselves.

    You know, the same way Obama handled the Rev. Wright deal.

    That being said, having a president who doesn’t make impulsive decisions is perhaps one of the least dislikable things about the upcoming Obama presidency. In fact, I’m fervently hoping that taking a slow, measured approach to things, rather than frantically jumping into a series of misguided New New Deal blunders, is what happens when Obama takes office. Or, to paraphrase:

    “Hope for very little change you can believe in!”

  42. This kind of partisan hack BS belongs on WND or FOX.

    Chapman endorsed Obama IIRC. Certainly this article is a waste of time and way off base, but partisan hack[ery]?

    Put the safety back on.

  43. I still don’t see why, on day one, he couldn’t have made (a) a full-throated denunciation of Blago and the corrupt political culture in Illinois… Softer language left open the possibility of Blagojevich resigning, which would have been the best outcome. “Can no longer perform the duties of his office” is a good face-saving line for the resignation press conference.

    (b) an unconditional promise of full cooperation from his staff with prosecutors, (c) a statement that he would have an internal investigation done to see if any unauthorized contacts were made, and (d) a promise that anyone who was found to have done anything even arguably unethical would have the bus backed over them until they were a red smear.

    On Day 1, at the time of the press conference, there were no accusations of wrongdoing for him to answer, or announce he would investigate. Come to think of it, there still aren’t.

  44. Oh, and regarding Bush’s “My Pet Goat” moment: oh, what a better world we would live in if that moment of sober reflection had lasted for years, and Bush had slowly and reluctantly taken action in Afghanistan, and not at all in Iraq. I mean, really, “Something has happened! We must act NOW NOW NOW! And worry later whether that was a good idea!” is the preferred response of government libertarians look for?

    I wish people were saying things like, “That fucker Bush took forever to make up his mind and take action. Always dithering and refusing to do anything in response to a crisis. Can you believe he didn’t do ANYTHING about the bank crisis?”

  45. “R C Dean | December 15, 2008, 10:58am | #
    As someone said (Mark Steyn?),”

    You lost me there.

  46. I think it’s worthwhile to distinguish between the honest and the corrupt, or you’re just helping to normalize corruption.

    So do I. I never meant to infer that all pols are corrupt, rather that all pols are self-serving. Professions of altruism is aimed at suckers.

    See Mitt Romney for the most glaring example.

  47. While I’ve never been an Obama supporter, it seems to me that dispassion is exactly what you want in a person deciding policy. Passion leads to knee-jerk, emotional responses as opposed to well thought out, rational decisions.

  48. We want presidents to move slowly and deliberately.

    We do? I’m so confrused…

  49. “Moving slowly and deliberately” != “Sitting there crapping your pants”

    I saw that video. Did you?

  50. I’m not a regular to this site, but I’ve got to ask, judging from this one article, are you sure “Reason” was the best title for your magazine?

  51. Ron- Don’t assume that this crap is the typical Reason article. It is typical of this particular writer.

  52. Yes, he should have come up with an over-the-top knee-jerk reaction. Why would a pol want to get all the information and come up with an informed, measured response.

    Next time, he should immediately suggest bombing Illinois.

  53. “Moving slowly and deliberately” != “Sitting there crapping your pants”

    I saw that video. Did you?

    Sure did. Still think Bush swiftly and decisively dragging us into Iraq is a good idea?

    A little more fear of consequences by Bush (aka “crapping your pants”) would have been a GOOD thing, IMO. Timid, fearful, and prone to inaction beats bold, fearless, and dead wrong.

  54. prolefeed,

    We didn’t invade Iraq for 18 months after 9/11. He marched us into war slowly and deliberately. And going back to the PNAC letter of 1998, the architects of this war marches us off to it slowly and deliberately over the course of five years.

    And also too, that was not the look of someone fearing the consequences of pursuing the wrong course. That was the look of someone who had effing clue what was happening.

    Look, I appreciate your point – slow, deliberate, level-headed decision-making beats flailing about in an effort to DO SOMETHING. It’s a fine point, but Bush being paralyzed in front of the classroom that day is not an example of deliberation.

  55. Joe: The Bill Ayers connection is something that legitimately bugs some people. Sure the right has run with it from ‘questionable’ to OMFG TERRORIST, but that doesn’t make it a manufactured issue.

    That said:

    Why are people conflating issuing a statement with actually doing something. Who the hell cares what politicians SAY??? Why is that still even a blip on the radar compared to what they DO???

  56. Granite,

    The “started his political career in a terrorists’s bedroom” is a manufactured outrage.

    He didn’t start his career there. People stating such a thing are dishonestly blowing up whatever legitimate issue his contact with Ayers raises into a bogus accusation.

  57. “A little anger over this would go a long way. His pro forma (and, as it happens, false) statement that none of his people had talked to Blago about the Senate seat was a pretty clear signal that this kind of thing just doesn’t really bother him that much.”

    See, that’s why I voted for him – he doesn’t get angry. Nothing seems to bother him. Sure, I’m pissed off about this whole thing, but I don’t understand why my soon-to-be president should be. People always want to relate to their president (He’s angry and so am I! I wouldn’t mind having a beer with him!). I don’t. I want exactly what I’ve gotten with Obama so far.

  58. There are some things you shouldn’t have to take time to think about.

    Reporter: “Mr. Obama, what do you think about your friend Blagojevich selling your senate seat?”

    Obama: “Uh, I’ll have to consult with my advisors on that, talk with the Chicago machine, stick my finger in the air, see if there are any pictures of me and Blago together. I’ll get back to you in a few days if the story hasn’t died down.”

  59. I would like to know that it has taken two years plus to comply with Constitutional Law to Ratify his Citizenship and eligibiltey to be President. and IF he is sworn in, will he use Our Bible or his being a Muslim, Quran ????

  60. More whinning? Do you always go around telling other people what they should do, when? Perhaps on Obama’s scale of priorities he had more important things to focus on, like the economy. Of course in the eyes of the right, there is nothing more important than the frenzy styled feeling they get when a possible scandle like this develops. We realize how needy the desperation of the right is these days.

  61. Joe,

    Don’t you have a regular job, or was this your day off?

    btw, did you miss the post above which indicated the PA Dem guy also calls it “Democrat Party”? I don’t understand why calling it so is ipso facto partisan.

  62. Avoid ??? Obama worked on Blago’s first run for Governor … he not only didn’t avoid the guy he stepped up to the plate and worked hard to get the guy elected …
    What exactly does Obama have to do with someone to get labeled a friend or associate or supporter ?

    Between Wright, Ayers, Rezko and Blago he’s been waist deep in the slime with the worst of Chicago politics, radical (ex-terrorist) educators and racist churches/pastors.

    How many time can he wave his hand and say, “These aren’t the droids you’re looking for” before some journalist just laughs in his face.

  63. Blago was mad because Obama wanted to delay the payoff for two years so it wouldn’t look like a pay off.

    We’re Making A List

  64. Yep. Obama is real busy lining up crooks to work in his administration. Like Bill Richardson.

    Crooks R Us.

  65. Mark says people want to relate to their President.

    So Mark are you a crook too?

  66. While I’ve never been an Obama supporter, it seems to me that dispassion is exactly what you want in a person deciding policy.

    So true. Obama needs to go slow when filling the cabinet in order to decide the best crook for the job. He puts them out for bid and then makes his decision base on: ubi est?

  67. It’s THE Pet Goat, stupid.

    Did Bush condemn Vitter, Craig and Stevens? No? Does anybody care? No.

  68. what is best about Obama: his careful, deliberate approach to decision-making

    You mean waiting until he’s checked with whoever it is “above his pay grade” before making a speech?

    Yeah… you call it “what is best”, I call it “failure to lead”.

  69. Same Ole Crap, new leader.
    ,

  70. A better question would be:
    Why did it take YOU, Steve Chapman, a whole 72 hours to get the Villager memo, and offer up this silly bullshit bit of “reporting”? Seriously, dude, if yer gonna start sucking ass with the rest of the MSM clowns, yer gonna need to be quicker on the draw than this sorry effort.

  71. The reason it took Barak Hussein Muhammed Obama 48 hours to give an answer is, because he has to think and give an answre that wouldn’t incriminate himself. Remember, he IS Part of the Chicago Crime Machine, also a well trained ARAB AFRICAN INDONESIAN MUSLIM, an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT. He can’t produce any documentation of being a Natural Born Citizen is, Because he ISN”T. His Paternal Grandmother was there in Kenya, Africa when he was born and THAT has been documented through the NEWS Media. IF he is legal, WHY are the Hospitals in Honolulu gaurdeD, WHY has Kenya put Gaurds on anything to do with OBAMA ???? STOP THIS INAUGERATION, IT’S A fraud TO gAIN cONTROL of our cOUNTRY. WHY hasn’t more been said about his Love of OUR Country, WHY doesn’t he Respect OUR Flag ??????

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