Reason Livestream on Bill Clinton and Marriage

Tune in here for at 3:30pm EST for a live broadcast of reason staff chatting with Nicky Grist on the Alternatives to Marriage Project and John Gartner on his new book, In Search of Bill Clinton: A Psychological Biography.

UPDATE: Short delay, but we'll be starting in 10 minutes.

UPDATE: Sorry gang. Technical difficulties are deep-sixing the livestream. We'll post the chat in its entirety after we're done.

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[Guy Montag]

Alternatives to Marriage Project?

If that is not a trick title I heart it already.

[phalkor]

how do you "tune in"

[Guy Montag]

phalkor,

Sorry, Timothy Leary took the checklist with him to the grave. Sorry.

[TV Guide]

EST? It's Daylight Savings Time. Maybe that's why I ain't seeing shit on this thing.

[Pro Libertate]

A very common mistake. I'm always taking EST out of contracts and replacing it with ET.

[While we\'re waiting...]

Judge Suspends Sen. Stevens's Trial
Politico's Josh Breshnahan reports:

Judge Emmet Sullivan suspended the corruption trial of Ted Stevens (R-Alaska) today after he found out that federal prosecutors had not turned over all their evidence to Stevens' attorneys.

Prosecutors disclosed this morning that they hadn't given defense lawyers exculpatory information from an FBI interview with Bill Allen, the Justice Department's star witness in the case. Allen, the former CEO of Veco Corp., an Alaska oil services company, has testified that his former company, with Stevens' knowledge, paid more than $180,000 to cover the costs of renovating Stevens' home in Girdwood, Alaska. DOJ alleges that Stevens did not report the gifts from Allen, Veco and others on his annual financial disclosure reports. Stevens has denied the charges.

Allen reportedly told an FBI agent that Stevens would have paid the full cost of the renovations if he had known about it, information that prosecutors did not share with Stevens' attorneys until near midnight on Wednesday.

Judge Sullivan has scheduled a hearing this afternoon on whether to declare a mistrial.

Also, the Washington Post reports this interesting exchange at the Stevens trial:

In court yesterday, Allen said Stevens -- who, at age 84, is running for reelection to a seventh Senate term -- never paid for the work.

Allen also said he never sent Stevens a bill for the renovations, which Veco documents valued at tens of thousands of dollars in labor and material. In 2002, Stevens sent Allen a handwritten letter asking for a bill for a new first-floor deck installed by Veco employees.

"You owe me a bill. Remember Torricelli, my friend," Stevens wrote, referring to a campaign finance scandal involving Robert Torricelli, the former senator from New Jersey. "Friendship is one thing. Compliance with the ethics rules, entirely different."

Stevens added that Allen needed to contact their mutual friend Bob Persons, who was monitoring the renovations because the senator spent so much time in Washington.

When he met with Persons, however, Persons told him to ignore Stevens's request for an invoice, Allen testified. "Bill, don't worry about getting a bill" for Stevens, Allen said Persons told him. "Ted is just covering his [expletive]."

A month later, Stevens again requested a bill. But Allen ignored that, too. He said he didn't want to charge Stevens a dime for the work.

[Guy Montag]

UPDATE: Short delay, but we'll be starting in 10 minutes.

10 minutes from when?

[Pro Libertate]

From now, Guy.

[Guy Montag]

Now now, or then now?

(ACK, forgot those lines from Spaceballs!)

[SugarFree]

Is there going to be a liveblog of the VP debates? I have bile I need to spew.

[Guy Montag]

UPDATE: Sorry gang. Technical difficulties are deep-sixing the livestream. We'll post the chat in its entirety after we're done.

Groovy baby!

[Mike Laursen]

Does anybody find it disturbing that the slideshow on the Alternatives to Marriage Project home page has a picture of a guy hugging his dog? What is their ultimate agenda, anyway?! Huh, huh?

[Pro Libertate]

From now, Guy.

Hey, looks like Stevens may get a mistrial. What a surprise.

[Episiarch]

Is there going to be a liveblog of the VP debates?

You're going to watch? Are you feeling OK?

[Guy Montag]

Epi,

Have you no faith? I predict the liveblog will be Weigelicious!

[troy]

It is difficult to grok a sentence with the words Bill Clinton and marriage.

[Guy Montag]

troy,

Actually, we really don't know what sort of marriage arangement the Clintons have, now do we?

For all we know, all of this stuff that has been proven and the rumored stuff is all perfectly within the scope of what they find acceptable and it really is not any of our business.

No, you stereotype-throwing folks, I am not joking either.

[SugarFree]

You're going to watch?

Only if I have you guys to snark with about it. My stupid wife is at some stupid conference attending stupid seminars about being stupid.

[Boston]

Well tonight you really have two options. Listen to the idiocy of Sarah Palin or the idiocy of Ron Darling. Tough one.

[Episiarch]

Only if I have you guys to snark with about it

You won't have me. I am going to go out for a while and then watch Always Sunny.

[SugarFree]

You are officially a worse person than my wife.

Congratulations.

[Boston]

Wait,

you mean to tell me that you two aren't married?!?!

[Dagny T.]

My stupid wife is at some stupid conference attending stupid seminars about being stupid.

She won't bring you back a treat unless you behave, crankypants. Don't you want a nice coffee mug from Minneapolis?

You are officially a worse person than my wife.

Unless your wife is the Princess of Darkness, that was a given.

[Episiarch]

You are officially a worse person than my wife.

What do I win?

you mean to tell me that you two aren't married?!?!

Ha!

Unless your wife is the Princess of Darkness, that was a given.

Well, she married him. Maybe he sold his soul to her?

(rubs chin)

She could be a lesser succubus.

[SugarFree]

succubus

I am 100% sure she's not anything like that.

[Episiarch]

She never does that for you, dude? That's sad.

[BakedPenguin]

She never does that for you, dude? That's sad.

Ha. Now we learn the real reason for his nickname...

[Episiarch]

Ha. Now we learn the real reason for his nickname...

And the fucker probably left work before seeing it. Damn you people who actually can leave work at 5.

[SugarFree]

Oh, just kidding. I mean, nothing compares to your mom's blowjobs, but I get by....