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The Button-Down Mind of Adolph Hitler

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Still more evidence for the Roth Effect, the idea that reality is simply far too weird for novelists to credibly portray it in fiction:

[Adolph Hitler] would often break from the serious nature of waging his campaign to "pull the legs" of his entourage of generals and hangers on.

His favourite victim was the Luftwaffe chief Herman Goering, who was notoriously fond of awarding himself medals and decorations.

According to the book by the last surviving member of his bunker, Hitler recounted how Mrs Goering found her husband waving a baton over his underwear in the bedroom and asked him what he was doing.

"He replied: "I am promoting my underpants to OVERpants"", Hitler then joked.

Hitler was said to be so proud of his joke that he had medals made from gold and silver paper for Goering to wear on his pyjamas.

On another occasion he noticed his official photographer Heinrich Hoffman had drunk too much and told him: "Don't stand to near the fire Heini—you might burst into flames."

These laff-riot lines come from a book to be published later this year by "Rochus Misch, 90, the telephonist in the Berlin Bunker where Hitler spent his last days before killing himself in April 1945."

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Random question: Does this change Pat Buchanan's opinion of World War II?

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  1. Ah, I remember those deleted scenes from Downfall. The director’s right, they would have ruined the tone.

  2. Random question: Does this change Pat Buchanan’s opinion of World War II?

    No. Pat always thought Hitler was a scream. This only adds fuel to the flames.

  3. So…evil genocidal maniacs are people, too.

    So what?

    (Entirely apart from the pointlessness of humanizing a monster, from all reports on Goering’s megalomania, the promoting underpants joke isn’t half-bad.)

  4. Will this book be banned in Germany?

  5. Adolph Hitler?

  6. Will this book be banned in Germany?

    Undoubtedly.

    Those who ban history texts are condemned to be bored out of their skulls in history class.

  7. “He replied: “I am promoting my underpants to OVERpants””, Hitler then joked.

    I expect this is funnier in German. I also wonder whether that shouldn’t be “ABOVEpants”, since that would more closely match the naming of German ranks.

    …”Rochus Misch, 90, the telephonist in the Berlin Bunker where Hitler spent his last days before killing himself in April 1945.”

    And, of course, in the original German the bolded text is only one word.

  8. So, Mel Brooks was right and everybody else was wrong?

    HA! Now see who is having the last laugh!

  9. Nick,

    Shouldn’t this thread be merged with the one after it?

  10. nah that aint to bad.

    probably was: Ich f?rdere meine unterhose zu ?berhose!

    i thought the joke was ?bermensch related

  11. Nibble, excellently done.

  12. Nietzsche discussed the uberpants in Also Sprach Fruit of der Loom.

  13. I always figured Adolph was more likely to be a prop comic rather than an insult comic. At least he wasn’t an observational comic.

    “Vat’s ze deal mit airline food?”

  14. Also Sprach Fruit of der Loom

    All crotches so far have created something beyond themselves; and do you want to be the plum-smugglers of this great flood and even go back to the man-thong rather than secure your little man with diginity? What is the jock strap to the boxer brief? A laughingstock or a painful embarrassment. And the tighty-whitey shall be just that for the fancy nuthugger: a laughingstock or a painful embarrassment…

  15. This proves the inherent danger in crappy humor (fear “Newsbusted” if “conservatives” retain power, IOW!).
    JMR

  16. Epi, Nutrasweet —

    Fucking LOL!

  17. I thought Hitler was into ethnic jokes?
    This changes everything!

  18. I laughed at the joke. Does this make me a nazi?

    hold me i’m scared

  19. hold me i’m scared

    “Fear is the mother of morality.”
    – Friedrich Nietzsche

    Purge yourself, Josh. Live free.

  20. Leave it to the Nazis to completely misunderstand and misappropriate Nietzsche’s uberpants concept. It’s given uberpants a bad name ever since.

  21. And the connection to Bob Newhart is what? The way he makes Don Rickles laugh?

  22. Wenn ist das Nunstruck git und Slotermeyer? Ja!…Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!

    “My dog has no nose.”

    “How does it smell?”

    “Awful!”

  23. They thought they would find Nietzschean unterpants in Paraguay, but only discovered in-breeding.

  24. WOW! Who knew that libritarians had a sense of humor?

  25. And the connection to Bob Newhart is what?

    Tenuous at best, but I’ll admit the thought of Adolf talking on the phone to an imaginary person–pausing, stuttering, blinking–just cracks me up. Dress Eva Braun up like Suzanne Pleshette and you’ve got a surefire hit.

  26. Who knew that libritarians had a sense of humor?

    Everybody except assholes like you, troll.

  27. NutraSweet, this kind of inbreeding?

  28. Onion article, in case you’ve never seen it:

    New Nietzschean Diet Lets You Eat Whatever You Fear Most

    “By conquering your Fear, by eating it in Heroic Portions, by laughing at that Fear which you have eaten, one avoids the Eternal Recurrence of cyclic ‘Yo-Yo’ Weight Loss and Weight Gain,” Nietzsche wrote. “And in so doing, one transcends Thinness. One discovers that he need not dwell forever on the chill, Wind-swept Borderland between Thin and Superthin.”

  29. I always hate when someone tries to explain a joke, so I won’t do that here. I will say, though, that knowing the German terms for military ranks (especially during the Nazi period) makes that a lot funnier. This will be such a bizarre thing to say: that was excellent wordplay from Hitler.

  30. Epi,

    Close, but without Steve Guttenberg.

    Biography had a show on Elisabeth F?rster-Nietzsche and they spent the last 15 minutes on Nueva Germania. Hydrocephalic kids with owl-eyes, so pale you can see the veins in their faces. So much for pure Aryan blood.

  31. Hitler was a better dancer than Churchill; Hitler was a better dresser than Churchill; Hitler was a better painter than Churchill: he could paint a whole apartment in one afternoon, two coats!

  32. At last, the foundation built by Hogan’s Heroes can be added to by the new sitcom, Hi, Hitler! Next week, see a very special episode where Adolf and the gang have to deal with Blondie’s life-threatening illness.

  33. Hogan! Hoooooooo-GAN!

    Seriously, those guys probably got it more right than any number of earnest dramas.

    It took me years to appreciate the kind of brass, not to mention genius, that was necessary to sell Hogan’s Heroes as a prime-time network comedy. Fortunately, Bing Crosby Productions was up to the task.

    Across town, it took another iconic yet iconoclastic, creator-owned enterprise, Desilu, to bring us Star Trek.

    Perhaps a pattern involving the conditions necessary for the development and promotion of brilliant outliers begins to emerge … and if not, I’m just happy for those two instances of television “getting it right.”

  34. “At last, the foundation built by Hogan’s Heroes can be added to by the new sitcom, Hi, Hitler! Next week, see a very special episode where Adolf and the gang have to deal with Blondie’s life-threatening illness.”

    I can’t wait for the very special 2 part episode of Hi, Hitler, when Adolph, and Heinrich trick Herman Goering into showing up for his intervention by telling him he’s getting a medal.

  35. I expect this is funnier in German. I also wonder whether that shouldn’t be “ABOVEpants”, since that would more closely match the naming of German ranks.

    My conjecture is confirmed, I think, by the Google translation of a Finnish post

    Adolf Hitler’s humor, and other bad diktaattorivitsej?

    Recently, Ilta-Sanomat reported himself to Adolf Hitler’s “told jokes natsikavereistaan”, in at least some fresh muistelmateoksen. One example cited from other sources to us the field of the men already familiar with the story of G?ring kalsareilleen by doing something incomprehensible rituaalia marsalkansauvallaan (kaksimielisten r??vitt?myyksien amateurs informed that the last word should be at this point consists of the letter). When the wife wonders what G?ring right is in the process, Marshall is responsible ylent?v?ns? Alushousut p??llyshousuiksi. Vitsi operates in Germany a lot better, because there are words Unterhosen and Oberhosen – and prefixes Unter-and-Ober is also used to rank the name of things such as “deficit” and “overzealous”.

  36. Hi, Hitler will also have an eponymous drinking game associated with it. Like Hi Bob, but with Nazis.

  37. Mel Brooks was right: Hitler is one funny dude. Compare him with mass-genocidal monsters like Mao and Stalin and it’s no contest. Did Stalin ever say anything funny? No. Could Pol Pot carry his own sitcom? Doubtful. But with the right cast, edgy writers and an attractive co-star, Hitler could rule the Nielsens.

  38. Maybe it should be an HBO series, where evil edginess and naked women are par for the course.

  39. Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha. Mein Gott, Adolph! You’re a gas!!

  40. I’m thinking Jason Alexander as the Fuehrer.

  41. And calling it Make Room For Hitler.

  42. Investers wanted.

  43. “… but with Nazis.”

    I get it.

    Kind of like…Our government is based on the US Constitution…. but with Nazis.

    Try our new __________ (fill in the blank), now with more Nazis.

    Things go better with Nazis.

  44. “Things go better with Nazis.”

    Because if they don’t, they are told there is a gun in the desk in the adjacent room and they should go in there and do the “honorable” thing, or go before a firing squad.

  45. Woodard says his clients have included rockers Kurt Cobain, Iggy Pop and Beck

    One of those guys committed suicide, one’s a Scientologist and one turned out alright (but then again Bowie’s that cool). I’m just saying. Don’t buy a Dreamachine.

  46. Maybe to forestall the inevitable outcry, it could be Hitler in an alternative universe, where he is an Austrian-born psychologist who lives in Chicago. Same personality, same everything, except that he doesn’t invade other countries or kill people. And he’s a psychologist. G?ring could be an airline pilot who lives across the hall.

    I think Bob Newhart would make an excellent Hitler.

  47. Maybe it should be an HBO series, where evil edginess and naked women are par for the course.

    Not naked! Hottie Nazi fetishwear, with 5″ spike heeled boots.

  48. Pro Libertate,

    He could work for a comic book publisher. That Newhart show did not run long enough for folks to notice it was on, or something.

  49. Not naked! Hottie Nazi fetishwear, with 5″ spike heeled boots.

    Max Mosley, that’s the guy’s name. There was a thread on here back in the day.

  50. Nein! Ze Bob Newhart Show! Vit ze dentist! Is it safe?

  51. “I just flew in from Nuremburg, and boy are my arms tired!” (rim shot) “Try the bratwurst!”

  52. Hey Guy!

    Hows things shakin’ down there on the orange line?

  53. Hows things shakin’ down there on the orange line?

    I rarely go near the Orange line, unless I am driving one of the Organic Hydrocarbon Powered vehicles of mine.

    I am on the Blue and Yellow lines.

  54. Nein! Ze Bob Newhart Show! Vit ze dentist! Is it safe?

    Don’t forget Howard Borman, Flight Engineer! Could be the Hermann Goering character.

  55. The airline pilot across the hall? Didn’t I mention him, at least obliquely? Of course, if he’s named Borman, we may have another Nazi candidate for his role.

  56. PL,

    He was not a Pilot, just a Flight Engineer, but yea, I missed where you mentioned him already.

    I still would prefer a Nazi version of Bob, that one deserves another shot.

  57. Incidentally, going with the Bob Newhart title reference, my son and I are real fans of Salman Rushdie’s “Haroun and the Sea of Stories,” in which the key villain, Khattam Shud, is literally the shadowy embodiment of the banality of evil.

    I have always hoped to see a faithful animated version of this story someday, and I sometimes wonder who would be the ideal voice actor to bring each character alive. From Rushdie’s description of K.S. as “clerk-like” and nondescript in appearance and voice, I long ago decided that this animated feature needs to be made while Bob Newhart is with us. His voice is Khattam Shud’s if any real person’s could ever be.

  58. I spell my first name with an F, not a PH, you dumk?pfe!

    Menjou used a PH, and added an E for extra fruitiness. But good Germans use a fucking F.

    Why people can’t get this right, I don’t know. To go down in history as evil I can live with (so to speak). But to go down as a fruity French Adolph is too much to bear.

  59. I hear Mugabe’s a big practical joker.

  60. I hear Hitler’s nickname for Goering was “Turd Blossom”.

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