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Politics

You Won't Get a Mormon President, But As a Consolation Prize…

Jesse Walker | 2.4.2008 4:00 PM

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If McCain manages to take the Republican nomination, this will be the first American presidential election in which both major-party candidates are sitting senators.

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Jesse Walker is books editor at Reason and the author of Rebels on the Air and The United States of Paranoia.

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  1. prolefeed   17 years ago

    You Won't Get a Mormon President, But As a Consolation Prize...

    ... You Get Hosed.

    Thanks, voters.

  2. Jamie Kelly   17 years ago

    And this is worth noting because ...

  3. Paul   17 years ago

    With campaign finance reform, this is surprising how?

  4. Jamie Kelly   17 years ago

    If McCain and HRC manage to take their parties' nomination, this will be the first American presidential election in which both major-party candidates have different sets of genitalia.

  5. fishdinner   17 years ago

    Yeah....and the Giants were supposed to lose yesterday too!

  6. Get info now, ask me how   17 years ago

    Both whoever the Dem candidate is and McCain are extremely vulnerable on one specific issue, which non-cosmotarian Ron Paul supporters could use to greatly reduce their support.

    That would thereby increase the chances of a RP independent run.

    Don't expect Reason to try to encourage anything like that, however. Gotta keep those invitations to TNR cocktail parties comin'.

  7. Ramon Rozas III   17 years ago

    Actually, this is pretty big because for the last three decades (or more) governors seemed to have a huge advantage over senators in the presidential race. In fact, the last Senator to get the White House was, if I am guessing right, JFK.

  8. just another whiner   17 years ago

    And this is worth noting because ...

    And your comment was worth making because ... ?

  9. creech   17 years ago

    Santourm read Ron Paul out of the Republican Party on O'Reilly the other night. So RP may as well leave, run Independent, and spoil the GOP's election dreams.

  10. Jesse Walker   17 years ago

    the last Senator to get the White House was, if I am guessing right, JFK

    Your guess is correct.

  11. fyodor   17 years ago

    If I got my stats right, the last four sitting senators to be nominated, each one since Kennedy, have all lost -- all to incumbent presidents! None of those incumbents had ever been a senator. There was also one former senator in that time, who lost, too. Four of these five were Dems...

  12. Jamie Kelly   17 years ago

    the last Senator to get the White House was, if I am guessing right, JFK

    And besides his tax cuts, he was a useless sack of shit who got brain stains on the street.

  13. Pro Libertate   17 years ago

    Ford got in, albeit indirectly, as a member of the House of Representatives.

    What's interesting to me is how god awful the candidates from the Senate usually are. This year is no exception, of course.

  14. joe   17 years ago

    Jamie Kelly, I knew Glenn Danzig. Glenn Danzig was a friend of mine. And you, soul-mouthed troll, are no Glenn Danzing.

    President's bullet-ridden body in the street
    Ride, Johnny ride
    Kennedy's shattered head hits concrete
    Ride, Johnny ride

    Johnny's wife is floundering
    Johnny's wife is scared
    Run, Jackie run

    Texas is an outrage when your husband is dead
    Texas is an outrage when they pick up his head
    Texas is the reason that the president's dead
    You gotta suck, suck, Jackie suck

    President's bullet-ridden body in the street
    Ride, Johnny ride
    Kennedy's shattered head hits concrete
    Ride, Johnny ride

    Texas is an outrage when your husband is dead
    Texas is an outrage when they pick up his head
    Texas is the reason that the president's dead
    You gotta suck, suck, Jackie suck

    Arise Jackie O, Jonathon of Kennedy
    Well, arise and be shot down
    The dirt's gonna be your dessert
    My cum be your life source
    And the only way to get it
    Is to suck or fuck
    Or be poor and devoid
    And masturbate me, masturbate me
    Then slurp it from your palm
    Like a dry desert soaking up rain
    Soaking up sun
    Like a dry desert soaking up rain
    Soaking up sun

  15. SugarFree   17 years ago

    Jamie Kelly,

    If McCain and HRC manage to take their parties' nomination, this will be the first American presidential election in which both major-party candidates have different sets of genitalia.

    Boy, the Clinton campaign sure has got you fooled.

    The McCain one as well. (Hint: It looks like an unopened rose...)

  16. Charles   17 years ago

    Why doesn't Adblock work on reason.com anymore?

  17. J sub D   17 years ago

    If McCain and HRC manage to take their parties' nomination, this will be the first American presidential election in which both major-party candidates have different sets of genitalia.

    Jamie Kelly -
    I gotta disagree with ya there. I'm pretty certain that previous candidates did not share the same set of genitalia. [/quibbling jerk]

  18. R C Dean   17 years ago

    In fact, the last Senator to get the White House was, if I am guessing right, JFK.

    Well, not counting LBJ.

  19. Jokester   17 years ago

    I'm pretty certain that previous candidates did not share the same set of genitalia.

    Overheard durng debate: "Excuse me! I believe I have the genitalia now!"

  20. Brian Courts   17 years ago

    Well, not counting LBJ.

    I think they were talking about sitting senators.

  21. Jesse Walker   17 years ago

    Yes, sitting senators.

  22. The Wine Commonsewer   17 years ago

    My 11 year old boy thinks its just perfect to refer to people who aren't terribly bright like this:

    You are SUCH a Mormon.

    Sort of like Bugs Bunny calling you a Maroon.

    His mother and I try to discourage this. I occasionally smirk. Mrs TWC does not.

  23. The Wine Commonsewer   17 years ago

    prole wins the thread out of the gate!

  24. Brian Courts   17 years ago

    My 11 year old boy thinks its just perfect to refer to people who aren't terribly bright like this:

    You are SUCH a Mormon.

    So, perhaps we've already had a Mormon president?

  25. Warty   17 years ago

    I thought about posting the lyrics to Bullet the other day, but didn't for some reason. Now my thunder is stolen forever.

  26. Paul   17 years ago

    And people think joe is too uptight to smoke weed.

  27. anonymoose   17 years ago

    TWO sitting senators! No-Doze sales will skyrocket during debate season.

  28. R C Dean   17 years ago

    My 11 year old boy thinks its just perfect to refer to people who aren't terribly bright like this:

    You are SUCH a Mormon.

    Some basketball player in Utah for the NBA playoffs years ago (Barkley? Shaq? No idea) would greet people "Gooood Mormon!".

    Probably easier to get away with when you're 6'8" and weigh 240 pounds.

  29. dj   17 years ago

    LBJ was VP before being President, as was former House member Gerald Ford. Despite having a pile of wannabee presidents in the Senate every four years, only two have become president in the last hundred years. Governors & Generals are the order of the day.

  30. Chris Potter   17 years ago

    Well, since 1900 we have:

    T Roosevelt - VP
    Taft - VP
    Wilson - Governor
    Harding - Senator
    Coolidge - VP
    Hoover - VP
    F Roosevelt - Governor
    Truman - VP
    Eisenhower - NATO Commander
    Kennedy - Senator
    Johnson - VP
    Nixon - ex-VP
    Ford - VP
    Carter - Governor
    Reagan - Governor
    G H Bush - VP
    Clinton - Governor
    G W Bush - Governor

    So we have 9 VPs, 6 Governors, 2 Senators, 1 NATO Commander. The governor obsession is a relatively new thing, and could reverse itself quite easily. Being VP is the best stepping stone to the "big chair", it would seem.

  31. Chris Potter   17 years ago

    Also, we went from 1932-1976 without electing a governor, the same time length which we haven't elected a Senator (1960-2004).

  32. Jon   17 years ago

    Yay?

  33. Brian Courts   17 years ago

    So we have 9 VPs, 6 Governors, 2 Senators, 1 NATO Commander. The governor obsession is a relatively new thing, and could reverse itself quite easily. Being VP is the best stepping stone to the "big chair", it would seem.

    Actually T. Roosevelt, Truman and Johnson were all incumbent presidents when they each won their one and only presidential election. That reduces the VP numbers a bit since it is arguable (perhaps even doubtful) whether any of them would have won an election simply as a sitting VP. What it shows more than anything is the power of incumbency.

  34. Jumbie   17 years ago

    SugarFree | February 4, 2008, 4:36pm | #

    Jamie Kelly,

    If McCain and HRC manage to take their parties' nomination, this will be the first American presidential election in which both major-party candidates have different sets of genitalia.

    Boy, the Clinton campaign sure has got you fooled.

    The McCain one as well. (Hint: It looks like an unopened rose...)

    Waitasec, if BOTH of em are fooling us as to what they have under the hood, then Jamie's statement is correct!

  35. Marty Busse   17 years ago

    Chris Potter-

    Hoover wasn't VP. He was Secretary of Commerce. Charles W. Dawes was Coolidge's Veep.

    So that's 8 VPs, 6 Governors, 2 Senators, 1 NATO Commander and 1 Cabinet Secretary.

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