Outlaw Coke—And Pepsi, Sprite, and Orange Crush Too
"Consumer groups" on five continents are launching a global "Dump Soda" campaign as a way to fight the war on fat. The health nannies, uh, consumer advocates, are not only informing consumers about the dangers lurking in a can of Coke, but want government action as well. According the environmentalist group, the Worldwatch Institute:
The groups launched the Global Dump Soft Drinks Campaign at the Consumers International World Congress in Sydney, Australia, in late October. Their demands include asking governments to require soft-drink producers to stop advertising sugar-laden beverages to children under 16 and to impose a modest tax on soft drinks to fund nutrition and fitness programs. The campaign also promotes the marketing of lower-sugar products, selling existing products in smaller portions, and stopping sales of sweetened beverages in all public and private schools, from elementary to high school.
Can a global campaign for mandatory daily calisthenics in front of everyone's dwelling be far behind?
Whole Worldwatch article here.
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Aren't they overreaching a bit? If they can't get pop machines out of schools, what business do they have imposing all these measures?
Collar me, don't collar me...
Where do I sign up for the two minutes hate?
do these people actually grocery shop? they already DO sell soda (or "pop" north of Peoria) in smaller cans than the normal size. the strange thing is, they're usually more expensive than the larger cans of soda - which is baffling to me. but they're there if you want them.
...impose a modest tax on soft drinks to fund nutrition and fitness programs
Does this mean I get a tax paid membership at LA Fitness?
Who was saying that the fat war was not perpetrated by the left?
Oh ya joe did.
Hey joe, you sir are full of shit.
Don't they understand? Sugar is taking the rap for HFCS!
On a daily basis, I make accurate, truthful claims that people respond to with ad homenim attacks about how I must be wrong, because I'm a partisan. You can tell that what I write is nonsense, you see, because it tends to make the Democrats look better.
And that's a quote, Corning!
We smokers told you who'd be next. Suck it up, fatboys!
I see a lot of movies where powerful industries hire contract killers to take out annoying activists like this (Michael Clayton, etc.).
Where are those hitmen? C'mon, CEO's! Step up to the plate already!
JC (not you, Joe's clone), where did Joe say that? Not doubting, just curious.
J sub D, stop ripping off my schtick!
Yes, I just quoted myself in the response 🙂
J sub D, stop ripping off my schtick!
My apologies for not attributing that line to you, Episiarch. But you did neglect to add the ?. 😉
It's OK, somebody had to say it. So I'll reiterate: suck it up, smoke-hating fatties!
We smokers told you who'd be next. Suck it up, fatboys!
HA! I'm affected by neither!
I just have to wait until they finish with the fatboys and start ragging on us Tennis enthusiasts.
I can't wait for the day I hear something about how all the use of rubber is harming...someone.
What? Coke not healthy? Holy crap, why didn't somebody tell me? I'm gonna sue!!!!
I can't wait for the day I hear something about how all the use of rubber is harming...someone.
The natives indigenous to the Amazon Basin. Rubber plantations are destroying the ecological diversity down there! Too fuckin' late, Reinmoose, you're on the list!
What? Coke not healthy? Holy crap, why didn't somebody tell me? I'm gonna sue!!!!
Yeah, my wife fed our babies Coke instead of breast-feeding. Now we hear this?...
Tennis players often suffer from tendonitis and a variety of debilitating lower-leg injuries. We must put a stop to the carnage caused by this thrill-seeker's sport!
Captain Chaos, you neglected to mention the health care burden they impose on the rest of society.
Let's vote, should tennis players be the next smokers?
TENNIS ELBOW INTERFERES WITH BATIN. WE MUST PUT A STOP TO IT.
AND THE STOOPID KLAY KOURT SEASON.
AND THE STOOPID KLAY KOURT SEASON.
AMEN!
(Since I am in the demographic being attacked, I will divert the attention to a specific segment of my demographic that I don't particularly care for.)
Let's vote, should tennis players be the next smokers?
Actually, serious (or not) predictions on what will be the nannies' next target would be interesting. WHO HAS THE POWER OF PRECOGNITION?
JC (not you, Joe's clone), where did Joe say that? Not doubting, just curious.
IDK like a 2-3 months ago...i think it was about some lady trying to ban trans fat.
Joe said something about how I could kiss his elastic waist panted ass.
So search the archives, joshua. Gotta back up your statements, and that's a good one.
What five continents?
Well, we still have golf don't we?
If their activism reaches the point in which everybody knows about these health effects, they'd need not outlaw it.
ps holy shit coke-cola is bad omg i never knew that!!!!11
pps making coke illegal? isn't it already lolz?!!?!?!?
Not to mention all those greenhouse gases contained within!
So search the archives, joshua. Gotta back up your statements, and that's a good one.
Jesus fucking christ...are you serious?!?!
Fuck an a...i will see you guys in like 3 weeks.
*walks off to the hell known as Reason archives
Yeah, my wife fed our babies Coke instead of breast-feeding. Now we hear this?...
Yeah, because Coke has what babies want: electrolytes!
"Tennis players often suffer from tendonitis and a variety of debilitating lower-leg injuries. We must put a stop to the carnage caused by this thrill-seeker's sport!"
Heh. And all sorts of other injuries. I'm a tennis player and have a shoulder injury. Many of us are hooked on NSAIDs and all sorts of pain meds.
I guess it wont be long before they come for us.... Well, la Revolucion is coming for us.
But dammit, nothing will keep me from playing this Imperialist/Oligarch sport!!!
Actually, serious (or not) predictions on what will be the nannies' next target would be interesting. WHO HAS THE POWER OF PRECOGNITION?
Let me go fire up the crystal ball (I really do have one, 10" diameter, it's a heckuva conversation starting knick knack)....
Can a global campaign for mandatory daily calisthenics in front of everyone's dwelling be far behind.
If these girls show up in front of my doorstep, I would deign to go outside to participate in some exercise.
After that, I'll be in my bunk.
Continuing my 5:31pm post -
... I see, it's getting clearer now, yes, the owners of cars with "oversized" engines.
Found it
joshua corning | May 25, 2007, 1:27pm | #
This is of interest to libertarians...why?
Cuz the left wants to use the government to dictate what we eat, when we eat and how much we eat...much of this is predicated on the communal costs of health care.
joe | May 25, 2007, 1:29pm | #
"Cuz the left wants to use the government to dictate what we eat, when we eat and how much we eat"
Uh huh, "the left."
Think I can get Mike Huckabee to sign my tie-dyed fat pants?
The funny thing is at the time i had no idea who Huckabee was...now...well I still don't.
Comments can be found at this post:
http://www.reason.com/blog/show/120397.html
Actually, serious (or not) predictions on what will be the nannies' next target would be interesting. WHO HAS THE POWER OF PRECOGNITION?
Magic 8-ball says: "Alcohol"
Specifically, malt beverages that aren't beer. And possibly 2-buck chuck wine. Can't have good, cheap booze. It robs the treasury and makes people drive drunk.
And good tastin' liquor makes the youngin' get drunk and have monkey sex.
Actually, serious (or not) predictions on what will be the nannies' next target would be interesting. WHO HAS THE POWER OF PRECOGNITION?
I'll take a shot: video games. Yeah, they've been targeted before, but I'll postulate that they will draw the ire of a new coalition between the health nannies, moralists and the "Buy Nothing" crowd.
The most effective moral panics are those that piss off several different groups of annoying busybodies. Video games contribute to a sedentary lifestyle, which should bring in the obesity tyrants; there's the sex and violence for the traditionalists; they're a fantastic target for the lefty corporate consumer culture protesters. Some shady "doctor" can probably use dubious statistics to link them to an epidemic of repetitive stress injuries and eye problems.
WHO HAS THE POWER OF PRECOGNITION?
No precognition, but I do have the lesser power of groundless speculation. The hardest part is that they're already going after most obvious stuff.
1) Headphones. Already some rumbles about this in the past, but with the increasing popularity of digital music players, this one could take off.
2) Model rockets. The engines contain explosive compounds and are probably carcinogenic if you eat them. Kids may huff the spray paints and modelling glue they use to make them. We're probably one dumbass kid making the national news by leaning over the launch pad from these going the way of decent chemistry kits.
3) MMOGs. Look forward to these getting tagged with causing video game addiction and blamed for people not exercising as much as more games reach audiences beyond the traditional fans of dungeon crawlers. This will take off when some more unfit parents use video game addiction as an excuse for not taking care of their kids.
So Bailey is now a soda denier?
It's well established science that soda causes people to be fat. The shill for Big Soda wants us to ignore it and let people drink their gut busting Coke despite the science.
Specifically, malt beverages that aren't beer. And possibly 2-buck chuck wine. Can't have good, cheap booze.
Plus they're marketed at poor minorities. We have a moral obligation to protect those too stupid conned by corporate drug dealers to think for themselves.
This is sooo easy, no wonder the nanny staters love it.
If this will teach people to stop putting soda into good single malt scotch when they grow up, I'm all for it. But we'll still need the coke to hide the taste of Mekong whiskey and Old Arrak.
Can a global campaign for mandatory daily calisthenics in front of everyone's dwelling be far behind?
That's just silly. With modern webcams, there's no reason a citizen's behavior can't be monitored in the comfort of his own home.
Lamar, I make those claims and others right here on the Bolton thread:
http://www.reason.com/blog/show/123460.html#comments
Scroll down toward the bottom after you ROTFLYAO at the Blah, Blah, Blah, I await your response, Joe gag. Ha Ha. Not funny.
I have plenty to say about pride, truth, accuracy, and my reputation, which remains unsullied despite the best efforts of people like Corning!
This whole thing reeks of Adbusters.
Can a global campaign for mandatory daily calisthenics in front of everyone's dwelling be far behind?
Actually, I have a meeting scheduled with the governor next Tuesday to discuss adding this very item to his platform. But our program isn't global just yet.
The only way to help keep this assault on freedom from reaching our shores is join us in convincing this man to run for President before it's too late.
To hell with soda. Drink beer!
Actually, serious (or not) predictions on what will be the nannies' next target would be interesting. WHO HAS THE POWER OF PRECOGNITION?
They will have to pry my BACON from my cold, dead hands.
One of the ways to help induce foolish behavior that, no, shouldn't be outlawed, but neither should it be subsidized by corporate welfare.
i think having government work (modestly) to repeal the soda empire the US government helped set up after WWII (every GI should be able to get a Coke for a nickel) wouldn't be too bad an idea. i mean, soda is so pervasive because of government intervention in the market so...
but then again, the government can't do anything right ever. so screw that
You guys have no imagination.
Chrome should be a controlled substance.
Actually, serious (or not) predictions on what will be the nannies' next target would be interesting. WHO HAS THE POWER OF PRECOGNITION?
Competitive youth sports.
Actually, serious (or not) predictions on what will be the nannies' next target would be interesting. WHO HAS THE POWER OF PRECOGNITION?
Internet usage
Yup something has to been done.
It's called getting out and about with a push bike and water bottle.
It's called exercise and who knows you might even get to meet other fit people.
"asking governments to require soft-drink producers to stop advertising sugar-laden beverages to children under 16"
I, for one, welcome our new minor overlords.
Hey, I'm a celebrity!
Too bad the "gotcha" quote doesn't actually say anything untrue.
But keep trying, joshua! It's clearly something that matters a great deal to you.
Actually, serious (or not) predictions on what will be the nannies' next target would be interesting.
Guns. Not in the "gun control" sense of supposed crime reduction, but in the "doctors have to report parents who have guns in the house for 'health' reasons" sense.
They'll claim your gun raises their healthcare taxes so they have to take it, even if you aren't a criminal and they can't paint you as a would-be one.
Actually, serious (or not) predictions on what will be the nannies' next target would be interesting.
I think they's continue to work the fat angle. After soda pop, maybe sugar more generally, or maybe fat.
Now that everyone's getting nice and comfy with the concept of taxing substances that supposedly impose costs on the commons (carbon tax, anyone), I think the next move from the nannies will be to start trying to put sugar and fat taxes on foods.
Unable to rely on their own governments to nanny them effectively, the world's fat stupid unwashed cried with relief upon learning that an international coalition of nannies had intervened on their behalf. Help was on its way.
expensive than the larger cans of soda - which is baffling to me. but they're there if you want them.
I'm no expert on the issues of cost-to-market issues of major soda manufacturers, but I strongly suspect that the difference in the amount of soda is miniscule in the cost of the product. You're mostly paying for distribution, packaging, and the manufacture of those tiny little cans, which probably required a newly tooled set of machines at a bunch of bottling plants.
Given that the smaller cans also have a slightly lower demand, the whole thing probably adds up to more cost for Coke to produce the smaller can than it does to produce the normal can- which can ubiquitously be placed on store shelves and dispensing machines-- the latter of which probably haven't been universally adapted to dispense those tiny, but totally cute little cans.
Guns. Not in the "gun control" sense of supposed crime reduction, but in the "doctors have to report parents who have guns in the house for 'health' reasons" sense
Too late. They started this in the late nineties. A few over-active, "activist" doctors started pushing healthcare providers to ask the question about whether or not guns were in the home, even if you were there for say, Oh, I dunno, getting your baby to breastfeed more effectively*.
The idea is that they were taking a "hollistic" view of health, and since guns cause-- I hesitate to even say it-- a "public health" concern, they should be included in statisitcs regarding your sore throat, lumbago, or diabetes.
* - this actually happened to my wife and me during a breastfeeding consult. I shit you not. Guess what my answer was?
TENNIS ELBOW INTERFERES WITH BATIN. WE MUST PUT A STOP TO IT.
Or tax tennis rackets, with the excuse that the money raised will be spent on subsidized whores for those unable to pleasure themselves. The whores, meanwhile, will be taxed to subsidize the purchase of condoms for those too poor to buy their own. The condoms will be taxed to subsidize the social security program that's going bankrupt because people irresponsibly persist in having sexual relations that do NOT lead to the creation of new taxpayers because those selfish people worry that having kids will cut into their tennis time, and thus we come (ha!) full circle.
Or tax tennis rackets, with the excuse that the money raised will be spent on subsidized whores for those unable to pleasure themselves.
Wouldn't that be tennis racketeering?
Not when the government does it, no.
Not when the government does it, no.
Hmph, I would argue especially when the government does it.
No, anything the government does is just fine. Gambling, for example, is evil when you do it with your friends, but Good For The Children when you play the government-approved lottery.
Case in point.
And consumers dont need these food scolds telling them what they can or cant eat or drink its time to tell the wheat grm inhaling wackos to TAKE A HIKE and STAY OUT OF OUR LIVES and OUR REFRIGERATOR