More False Optimism on Iraq
How many mulligans should we let Iraq war boosters take?
Gen. David Petraeus says the Iraq war is going well, and I believe him. I believe him the way I believe the coach of a perennial football doormat who, every August, assures fans he expects a winning season. Coaches don't get paid to admit they're bound to lose, and generals who are tasked with military missions don't get paid to announce that they can't get the job done.
Petraeus is, by all accounts, an experienced, capable and intelligent commander. So when he says that "the security situation in Iraq is improving," the natural impulse is to trust his battle-seasoned judgment. The Bush administration encourages this notion by suggesting that the opinions of military commanders are the only sound guide to policy.
But if high-ranking military officers are a good barometer of the future, I have a question: Where are the generals who told Americans when things were about to get worse in Iraq, as they have over and over? Which of them warned that insurgent attacks would steadily proliferate in 2005, after elections that were supposed to quell violence? What guy with stars on his shoulders forecast that Iraqi civilian deaths would double over the course of 2006?
Who told us that last year's military strategy of "clear and hold" would fail—as even the administration admitted afterward that it had? Who predicted that the average number of Americans killed each month this year would be 34 percent higher than last year?
Not the top brass, which has consistently taken an optimistic public stance since the beginning. In November 2003, Gen. John Abizaid, head of U.S. Central Command, said achieving victory would require hard work but said "it will be done." In November 2004, Marine Lt. Gen. John Sattler said we had "broken the back of the insurgency." In March 2006, Abizaid assured us, "We are winning." Three years ago, Petraeus himself said that "18 months after entering Iraq, I see tangible progress."
Despite all these cheery soundings, things didn't improve. That's why this year, the administration was forced to increase our troop strength in Iraq by nearly 25 percent in a desperate attempt to reverse the debacle. If the generals had been right about trends in the past, the surge would not have been needed.
Petraeus once again detects signs of progress, but it all depends on your definition of "better." His graphs and charts indicate that insurgent attacks and Iraqi civilian deaths have declined significantly since December 2006. What he doesn't mention is that they are still higher than they were in the first three years of the war.
By March 2006, 60 percent of Americans said the war was going poorly. Yet all Petraeus claims to have done is lower the carnage to the level it was then—a level most people found unacceptable. If this is progress, then treading water should be an Olympic event.
Likewise, his plan to withdraw 30,000 troops by next summer would merely mean reverting to the number we had before the surge. Assuming he's right, we'll have spent a year and a half making an arduous journey from Point A to Point A.
It's not even clear his figures can be believed. Numbers provided by the Iraqi government, according to the Los Angeles Times, indicate that the slaughter of Iraqi civilians has actually grown since the surge began. An Associated Press count determi ned that the civilian death toll in August was the second-highest monthly total this year.
Given all the talk about subsiding violence, you'd expect Iraqis to notice. But a new poll conducted by ABC News, the BBC and the Japanese broadcaster NHK found that only 11 percent of Iraqis think overall security is better today than it was before the surge. Even in Anbar province, commonly hailed as our greatest success, 62 percent of locals say the situation is bad.
If confident predictions by generals could be taken as gospel, this war would have been over long ago. But the totality of evidence gives no more reason to think we will do any better in the future than in the past. Given the choice, it's better to have commanders who believe they can overcome any adversity than commanders who are easily discouraged. But sometimes, as we have learned repeatedly in Iraq, optimism is just another word for self-delusion.
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The Iraq story has become incredibly boring. Nothing ever changes. Did anyone really care what General whatshisname had to say?
Anyone remember Mission Acomplished
I am very fatigued with the debate over Iraq, and I am tired of my country being so polarized.
I am very fatigued with the debate over Iraq, and I am tired of my country being so polarized.
Just wait for January 2009. When Hillary is sworn in, the sound of flip-flopping will be deafening. I just hope Hannity doesn't kill anybody when he makes his U-Turn.
I have a poll going on how long Hilary will be in office before the GOP starts blaming Iraq on the Democrats.
I'm putting my $$$ on two weeks.
Any takers?
"Just wait for January 2009. When Hillary is sworn in"
I just threw up in my mouth a little bit.
Taktix: Are you sure you didn't mean "I have a poll going on how long Hilary will be in office before the GOP starts blaming failure in Iraq on the Democrats."
There is something very erotic about a woman with power, and nice pasty kankles.
Can we call her Billerly ?
The generals who disagreed were forced out.
BakedPenguin,
Taktix: Are you sure you didn't mean "I have a poll going on how long Hilary will be in office before the GOP starts blaming failure in Iraq on the Democrats."
At this point, I would posit that "failure" is implicit when assigning "blame for Iraq," but fair enough.
However, the GOP will likely bring up the ghost of the male Clinton Presidency as justification for assigning blame to Hilary.
Come to think of it, the GOP might try to pin failure in Iraq to Hilary after the primaries.
They'll say something like "Bill Clinton's ineptitude forced Bush's hand" or something. Mighty Zeus, I don't think I can handle another election season...
NOTE: I am in no way a fan of HRC. Like many others, I was looking for apartments in New Zealand yesterday.
"Where are the generals who told Americans when things were about to get worse in Iraq, as they have over and over?"
Good question. I don't know the answer, but the phrase "way off the mark" springs to mind. What ever happened to that guy?
Is it still called polarization when one side has such a lopsided majority?
The only place the happy talk is making any difference anymore is in Washington.
"Is it still called polarization when one side has such a lopsided majority?"
Good point.
I'm not fatigued of my country being so polarized. I AM fatigued by so many witless warmongerers playing their equally witless bases for saps.
The whole thing is just really embarassing.
Hopefully the difference in strategy is changing things. More casualties isn't necessarily a bad thing if our new offensive shows the citizenry we're finally serious about winning. Had we fought the war like we were at war from the beginning things might not have been as bad.
Had we fought the war like we were at war from the beginning things might not have been as bad.
But we didn't. I submit that if the U.S. military had done what was necessary to pacify and then unify Iraq, the U.S. citizenry would never have stood for it. GWB got us into a no win situation and still won't admit it. It take a big man to admit when he's wrong. That says a lot about the president in my mind.
Full disclosure, I voted for him in 2000. Not 2004.
Has anyone been reading NRO on a regular basis? The main page is effectively just war propoganda. And bad too.
Sure, just a little shock and awe, and everything will be fine.
It seems pretty obvious that Rule #1 is "Keep this thing going until January 09." They'll provide as many trivial concessions, hearings, and dog-and-pony-shows as necessary to achieve that goal.
Does al-Qaida think killing Sunni leaders is going to endear Iraqis to the jihad? Their brutal tactics are backfiring and the possibility of al-Quida ever wielding power in Iraq is slipping fast. Soon, we'll be able to focus exclusively on the radical Shiites.
why, thank you, joe.
[whisper whisper]
oh. well, gosh darn it. "shock and awe", not "aw shucks".
/soft whirring sound as scooter backs away
There has never been a possibility of al Qaeda weilding power in Iraq. The American occupation was the only glue holding together the Iraqi Sunnis and the foreign jihadists. Once that occupation ended, the al Qaedists became hunted men.
You're just realizing that now; I've been telling you that would happen for three years.
James, do you remember what the US military did just before the Anbar insurgency turned their guns on al Qaeda?
They left Anbar, that's what.
""" have a poll going on how long Hilary will be in office before the GOP starts blaming Iraq on the Democrats.
I'm putting my $$$ on two weeks."""
I'll give it 4 weeks.
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Taktix - I think you're right about the blame game, but I think they'll be cagey enough to wait until the public has other reasons to loathe Hillary before they try that. As dumb as the american electorate can be, I don't think the pissed anti-Iraq 65% will forget the last eight years right after the election.
It'll take at least four months.
4 weeks? Are you kidding me? Hillary will be blamed as soon as she is elected. Well before she takes office. Possibly before election night. Come on, people. The clock is ticking. The hawks don't have a lot of time to spare before scapegoating.
Hillary will be blamed before she was elected.
These people have already made it quite clear what they think of debate and the democratic process during wartime. If Congressmen talking about what disposition of our forces best protects our national interest causes the death of American troops, a presidential candidate doing the same thing might as well set off the suitcase nuke herself.
I have a poll going on how long Hilary will be in office before the GOP starts blaming Iraq on the Democrats.
What else would you expect them to do? The job of Republican and Democratic officeholders alike to get elected and stay that way. You don't do that by blaming yourself for anything. Maybe I'm cynical, but I view partisan politics as a form of Kabuki badly in need of more makeup.
...I view partisan politics as a form of Kabuki badly in need of more makeup.
Considering how annoying it is to listen to, perhaps Noh might be a better referent.
"I have a poll going on how long Hilary will be in office before the GOP starts blaming Iraq on the Democrats.
I'm putting my $$$ on two weeks.
Any takers?"
What makes you think they will wait till she takes office?
Has anyone been reading NRO on a regular basis? The main page is effectively just war propoganda. And bad too.
I used to read The Corner, but it basically became Kathryn Jean Lopez's Uninterrupted Stream of Blither?, so I stopped.
I'm curious, though: which war is the propaganda for? The current one in Iraq, or the future one with Iran? Mix of both?
We get the politicians we pay for, good and hard.One wolf, two sheep. What's the last good administration anyone can remember? I'm 70 years old, must be before my time.
"""We get the politicians we pay for,"""
Sarcasm?
They have been getting raises but the quality has not improved.
""What's the last good administration anyone can remember? I'm 70 years old, must be before my time.""
Probably was, if a good administration ever existed.
We get the politicians we pay for, good and hard.One wolf, two sheep. What's the last good administration anyone can remember? I'm 70 years old, must be before my time.
The Coolidge Administration seems pretty enlightened, in retrospect.
What is with this site? It's like it has been taken over by the anti-war movement.
And the anti-war people here are every bit as ideologically intolerant and ahistorical as the most hysterical of left-wingers.
No wonder libertarians are so marginal in American politics.
No wonder libertarians are so marginal in American politics.
Drink!
The country has been taken over by the anti-war movement, h.
You want to know who's marginal in American politics?
Iraq War apologists.
Actually, the Chairman of the Joint Chief GEN Eric Shinseki said before the war that we'd need around 300,000 people to accomplish this war effectively, which contradicted the Bush administration's opinion.
In gratitude for his honest opinion, Donald Rumsfeld publicly humiliated him, then forced him out. The other generals learned to keep their mouths shut after that.
Dear UC:
Petraeus saw what happened to Shinseki.
It's very sad, the Commander-in-chief and Rumsfeld are the incompetent ones who should have been fired. Rummy's out, but were still stuck with a dumb guy. We're all sick of it.
Who says were getting out? No, seriously... which front runner says we are leaving Iraq and the AREA? 60,000 more or less to remain in the area. people talk about no debate going in... there seems to be no debate about leaving 60,000 there (like, what are they going to be doing...and what Arab country wants to host American raids into Iraq?)
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