Darwin Dating: Survival of the Cutest?

Darwin Dating promises to weed out ugly people as unfit for meeting. To that end, Darwin Dating lists a number of disqualifying characteristics. These include, mullets, acne, out of proportion noses and ears, too long back hair, saggy boobs, hairy feet and mid-digital hair. Whole list here. According to the website:

Darwin Dating has been created to better the lives of attractive people and to encourage them to find other attractive people with whom they can breed.

Started as a joke in April 2006 by Michael Fox, a 26-year old advertising salesman from Sydney, Australia, Dawin Dating is not the first website that aims to winnow out ugly ducklings. The pioneer in this field is BeautifulPeople (turn down the volume before clicking).

As The Scientist reports:

Along with a head shot, profiles on Beautifulpeople give brief descriptions of the member, with stats like height, weight, and whether or not the person owns a car. There are no other criteria, such as Darwin Dating's list of no-nos, except a minimum age of 18, a 14.95 UK pounds ($30 US) per month fee, and a clean harassment record. (Applying to Darwin Dating is free.)

Only one in five make the cut at Beautifulpeople whereas half of applicants are deemed fit at Darwin Dating.

Just one question to the would-be Darwin Daters: If ugly people are so "unfit," why are there so many of us?

Comments

[thoreau]

Just one question to the would-be Darwin Daters; If ugly people are so "unfit," why are there so many of us?

Clearly this is a flaw in evolution, and hence proof that there was a designer.

With really bad taste.

🙂

[dhex]

DEMAND KURVE

also some women like hairy knuckles just ask tom selleck OH YOU CAN'T HE'S COVERED IN NAKED LADIES.

[Akira MacKenzie]

Well, given how much sex I've had in the last 10 years (that is to say, none), I fear that he might be on to something.

I mean, come on, have you met an attractive person who couldn't get laid?

[Another Phil]

Just one question to the would-be Darwin Daters: If ugly people are so "unfit," why are there so many of us?

According to Seinfeld: alcohol.

[Taktix?]

Just one question to the would-be Darwin Daters: If ugly people are so "unfit," why are there so many of us?

One word:

Alcohol

[Taktix?]

Dammit another Phil!

[Warren]

Just one question to the would-be Darwin Daters: If ugly people are so "unfit," why are there so many of us?

WTF Ron? Seriously, isn't biology suppose to be your bailey-wick? (hee) Only the Alfa male gets to breed. The rest of us just are just 'also rans' in the completion for genetic immortality. There may be thousands of us, but only the one most superior is fit to reproduce.

[JasonL]

Query:

What is the appropriate context for using the Demand Kurv mock argument? I get the gist, but not the specifics.

[Number 6]

Ron- It helps to be rich or have a big wang.

[The Wine Commonsewer]

just ask tom selleck OH YOU CAN'T HE'S COVERED IN NAKED LADIES.

Dhex, I now have cranberry juice all over my monitor got dam it.

[Brad]

Just one question to the would-be Darwin Daters: If ugly people are so "unfit," why are there so many of us?

Isn't the answer to this: because of the influence of governments and churches that forbid polygamy, thus artificially forcing the less attractive women to hook up with less attractive/less wealthy guys as opposed to becoming wife #8 of some wealthy and/or attractive dude?

In other words, government (in one form or another) messing up the perfect of "free market Darwinism?"

At least, that's what Robert Wright told me ... roughly.

[The Wine Commonsewer]

Ron- It helps to be rich or have a big wang.

But if you can't get a date who is going to know you have big chota? Well, you could use a trench coat I suppose. Advertising is what you can tell Officer Friendly.

[Warren]

It helps to be rich or have a big wang.

The latter part of that statement is false. Having a big wang provide zero help in getting laid. The reason is, there is absolutely no way to effectively convey that information in a non-repulsive manner.

[John]

Darwin Dating doesn't have people without defects, just rare defects. They don't mention hunchbacks or men with third testicles.

[Grotius]

Just one question to the would-be Darwin Daters; If ugly people are so "unfit," why are there so many of us?

Because beauty isn't the only trait via which "evolutionary success" is garnered.

[ChicagoTom]

The latter part of that statement is false. Having a big wang provide zero help in getting laid. The reason is, there is absolutely no way to effectively convey that information in a non-repulsive manner.

Via a Myspace page? Or SKINNY jeans ? OR SPANDEX!!! 🙂

[ChicagoTom]

or men with third testicles.

Fantastic! I have a shot!!

[Warren]

...men with third testicles.

That's not a defect, that's a feature. [Zing]

[Randolph Carter]

Indeed, the fact that I have a galaxy-size huge wang has not helped me very much. But maybe that's because it's so big it has its own gravitational pull, which kind of scares the chicks.

[Taktix?]

The latter part of that statement is false. Having a big wang provide zero help in getting laid. The reason is, there is absolutely no way to effectively convey that information in a non-repulsive manner.

Alas, my daily struggle...

[Warren]

CT,
All those methods are female replant, unless of course you're fronting a band. Then everything you do is hot, the more vulgar the better.

[fyodor]

Just one question to the would-be Darwin Daters: If ugly people are so "unfit," why are there so many of us?

As a hedge against overpopulation? Like...homosexuality?

[SugarFree]

My wife is way hotter than me.

Nope, that's it. Just wanted to brag.

[Karen]

Ron, the reason there are still ugly people is conveyed in the joke that came out when they started the supermodel egg bank and the Mensa sperm bank, "what if it gets his looks and her brains?"

Oh, and I'm completely bummed that on one of the few days I'm home and can comment, I can't think of a single appropriate Big Thing for Bailey to shill for on this thread.

[Warren]

Karen wins

[Karen]

Okay, now that I've read the comments posted by Taktix and ChicagoTom, I know exactly what Big Thing Bailey is shilling for this time.

[SugarFree]

Karen,

Big Fugly?

[Warren]

OH! But there's a penalty on the play.

[thoreau]

Right now I'm listening to AC/DC.

Guess which song.

[Taktix?]

Yeah! Some actually reads my comments!

[highnumber]

Karen,

Comments by ChicagoTom and who?
It looked like you mentioned two names, but that other one was totally unfamiliar. You must be referring to something you read somewhere else.

[Reinmoose]

see, the trick about having a giant wang is that if you're able to do even one chick then she'll tell all her friends, and they'll want to experience it.. and so on, and so forth...

[Roz]

The term is NOT Ugly...It's undesirable.

I've been undesirable all of my life...and as soon as I got a chance 2 get married...I jumped on it. Didn't wanna stay alone.

[M]

There are no other criteria, such as Darwin Dating's list of no-nos, except a minimum age of 18, a 14.95 UK pounds ($30 US) per month fee, and a clean harassment record

Please rush instructions on how to harass cleanly so I can... Oh, wait, I'm supposed to be learning that here, right?

[SugarFree]

Bathe before you stalk. It's just plain polite.

[pdog]

You realize that the female gender considers looks far less important than males do.

[SugarFree]

Go tell that to High School me. He'll snort Diet Coke out of his nose for you.

[Son of a!]

The female gender are less willing than males to admit that they consider looks important.

[Reinmoose]

You realize that the female gender considers looks far less important than males do.

That would explain the guy that my best friend is dating.

I think, actually, pdog, the phenomenon you're describing applies only to a sector of the female gender that typically has low self esteem when it comes to their looks, and so undervalues looks all together.

[steveintheknow]

You realize that the female gender considers looks far less important than males do.

Not my wife. I am totally hotter then she is. Cause', like, she wouldn't have it any other way.

[Warren]

Reinmoose,
the trick about having a giant wang is that if you're able to do even one chick then she'll tell all her friends

You would think so wouldn't you. But no. She will tell them about every pimple on you're ass, every cigarette burn in your upholstery, even diagram all your sex maneuvers. But a woman will never mention that you have a large penis to anyone, ever.

[Episiarch]

But a woman will never mention that you have a large penis to anyone, ever.

That's because, if you later break her heart/cheat on her/piss her off, she can tell everyone you have a tiny schlong. If she had told anyone that it was a baby's arm clutching an apple, then she couldn't use that weapon.

See? I know everything about chicks.

[BTS]

The reason is, there is absolutely no way to effectively convey that information in a non-repulsive manner.

I think this is (marginally?) untrue. It's come up in conversation before with and hasn't really been awkward, then again, for some reason 5 guys found out via that avenue, while only two women did. Though I suppose that me not being hung like a horse kinda queers the whole premise of the first statement, as long as "that information" means being exceptionally well-endowed rather than being relatively normal. Oh, and Warren is dead right, too.

Still, to quote Ron Jeremy: "Most women aren't size queens," so having a big dick may not help you get laid.

[Atabrat]

They should take that act to the Galapagos and see how far it gets them.

[smartass sob]

see, the trick about having a giant wang is that if you're able to do even one chick then she'll tell all her friends, and they'll want to experience it.. and so on, and so forth...

Unless she has an even larger, motorized version of her own that she keeps in the drawyer of her bedside table.

[BTS]

*before with multiple people
Damn, I can't proofread

[BTS]

And to clairfy, everyone asked, I never volunteered.

[ChicagoTom]

see, the trick about having a giant wang is that if you're able to do even one chick then she'll tell all her friends, and they'll want to experience it.. and so on, and so forth...

Yes, exactly. That is exactly what happened with me. All the ladies wanted to experience my giant wang! Yeah, that's it. That's the ticket.

[Edward]

If ugly people are so "unfit," why are there so many of us?

Advances in medical science and social welfare.

[Pro Libertate]

I think a certification service for those of you still in dating mode is needed. One that verifies various qualities and stamps each potential datee with its certification. There could be certification levels, ranging from A+ to D, with those failing to achieve the minimums required for certification being simply labeled, "Unfit".

[TLB]

Here's a fun experiment I did a few years ago. Yes, it was a bit sick, but someone has to do things like that.

[Number 6]

As for the big wang/getting laid thing: In the Marines, I had a Sgt. who had a huge wang. I know this because he showed it to everyone. In fact, on at least one occasion, he got laid by standing on a hotel balcony overlooking a crowded beach and displaying the goods. Apparently, variations on that gambit were frequently successful for him.

[Larry Edelstein]

All hail dhex; "NAKED LADIES" really got me!

[Postmodern Sleaze]

"I mean, come on, have you met an attractive person who couldn't get laid?"

Yes, I see him in the mirror every morning.

Being a tall, skinny guy with great cheekbones and perfect features doesn't mean a whole hell of a lot if you're also a completely insecure son of a bitch. Hence I haven't been laid in over a year.

[D.A. Ridgely]

The commercial success of such enterprises is mind boggling when you consider that physical attractiveness is the one and only thing you can pretty much size up about a total stranger at first glance. I mean, just how stupid do you have to be to be unable to find people who are as attractive as you (supposedly) are?

[pdog]

if you're also a completely insecure son of a bitch.

exactly. good looks help get you in the door, sure, but they aren't as important for females. how many young hot men do you see paired with a rich old hag? now compare that with the trophy wives you seen. but absent money... i've seen an average balding man in his 30s hook up with a pretty 20something girl because of his balls, confidence and charm.

[J sub D]

D.A. Ridgely - It appears to me that the problem, for customers of this variety of service, is that all of the attractive people they know, unfortunalely also know them.

[Bubba Gump\'s Best Buddy]

DAR, that is really a great summation.

Stupid is as stupid does

[J sub D]

but they [good looks]aren't as important for females.

I know that's true. Every woman i've ever had a relationship with was better looking than me. Of course the bar is not set that high there, but still...

[The Wine Commonsewer?]

All the ladies wanted to experience my giant wang! Yeah, that's it. That's the ticket.

I dunno Tom, Shelley W saw you lick your eyebrows and swooned. 🙂

Gad that's so vulgar. Sorry Karen.

[tlxtftrf]

Completely unrelated, but apparently texas D.A. is a child molester and NBC is in trouble.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070628/ap_on_re_us/sex_predator_sting;_ylt=AhNE9d4JjBtJREB_NnL2et5vzwcF

[The Wine Commonsewer?]

but they [good looks] aren't as important for females.

Dang good thing. Course copious quantities of wine helps ease things a bit. But when they wake up [the morning after].........there was this one girl that figured if the fat guys could sue Mickie Dees for getting fat she could sue Robert Mondavi Winery for waking up in my bed.

[Paul]

These include, mullets

Doh! That takes out Lynwood, Kent, Federal Way and Sumner.

[The Wine Commonsewer?]

tlxtftrf, Odd the way Yahoo reported that, it's old news but there is NEW news in the story. The new news should be the story not the old news. But it isn't.

[Inquiring mind]

Where's Herrick when we need his, er, testimony?

[NoStar]

"...there was this one girl that figured if the fat guys could sue Mickie Dees for getting fat she could sue Robert Mondavi Winery for waking up in my bed."

TWC,
How IS Mrs. TWC these days?

NoStar

[Another Kevin]

From my experience seeing my big-wanged friend get laid copiously; I have a theory on "big package gets you laid more".

Essentially, having a big one makes you more confident in sexually charged situations. Even if the pretty thing at the bar has no idea the size of your package; you still approach her with confidence because you've "got the goods".

Not that it really matters in the end; but it is an additional feature that increases one's sexual confidence and THAT shows.

Coupla lines do that too, or so I've heard...

[Todd Fletcher]

The level of self-esteem on display in this thread explains a hell of a lot about the fortunes of the libertarian philosophy.

[NoStar]

"Not that it really matters in the end,..."

Another Kevin,
I dunno, somehow I think it just might.

NS

[barflypaperhanger]

Coupla lines do that too, or so I've heard...

Like "Come here often?"

Never worked for me.

[Neu Mejican]

NoStar

69 provides no evolutionary advantages

[J sub D]

The level of self-esteem on display in this thread explains a hell of a lot about the fortunes of the libertarian philosophy.

What is being displayed is humility and self deprecating humor. Attributes common in intelligent, secure people. With the exception of ____________, _____________, & ____________ that describes reasonoids.

Y'all fill in the blanks. I don't need the guff.

[Not ________________]

And losers. Don't forget about losers.

[The Wine Commonsewer?]

How IS Mrs. TWC these days?

Why NoStar, WHATEVER do you mean? 🙂

Mrs TWC is in Salt Lake City (due back Friday night) so I'm the semi-official house dad.

She took her sling shot to take on the Goliath NEA and their minions who are trying desperately to undo Utah's recently enacted school voucher program. It is a long but interesting story and I hope she has as much luck beating up those guys as she did beating up Rob Reiner and his tobacco tax money here in the Golden State.

Scozzzy Me, that's her just now on the cell phone.

I'm back, sorry. In the end, we may not win, but each victory keeps them at bay for a while longer.

[The Wine Commonsewer?]

From my experience seeing my big-wanged friend get laid copiously; I have a theory on "big package gets you laid more".

There's an old story that Lenny Bruce used to get chicks to sleep with him by telling them how small his package was. His was apparently average (I never peeked) in dimensions and the strategy seemed to work.

[M, shilling for Big Sewer]

Yo, pop y'all over to TWC's blog and scroll down to the cute video on June 26. Many pretty ladies.

[The Wine Commonsewer?]

he got laid by standing on a hotel balcony overlooking a crowded beach and displaying the goods

I knew a guy who did that as well. He got three years probation, a $500.00 fine, credit for time served, and a nice spot on the online sex offenders list.

[Lenny Bruce]

Not quite, old man. I said that I told dates right away that we wouldn't be able to do it because I'm too big. Worked every time.

[Grand Chalupa]

Isn't the answer to this: because of the influence of governments and churches that forbid polygamy, thus artificially forcing the less attractive women to hook up with less attractive/less wealthy guys as opposed to becoming wife #8 of some wealthy and/or attractive dude?

In other words, government (in one form or another) messing up the perfect of "free market Darwinism?"

Makes sense. The future will belong to the more evolved overmen of Utah and Saudi Arabia.

[The Wine Commonsewer?]

Hey Shilling for Big Sewer, thanks for the shout out. Much obliged.

Danny! Bring a bottle of decent red and a couple of glasses. Martoonis for the rest of 'em.

[The Wine Commonsewer?]

Lenny I stand corrected. Got Dam CRS. Ruins a good story every time. 🙂

[Lennny Bruce]

Lenny I stand

On three legs, like me?

[ignoramus]

What's CRS?

[The Wine Commonsewer?]

CRS = Can't Remember Shit

Sorry for not linking or something.

[The Wine Commonsewer?]

I didn't link or something because I have CRS

[Rick Barton]

I'm looking for a cute nerds dating club. My ideal gal might be one who is really cute but would rather be on time to the philosophy club or to sci-fi con even if it means leaving with hair that's not completely dry yet.

[ignoramus]

Which stands for what?

[Aristotle]

My ideal gal

How's that approach working for you, Plato?

[Rick Barton]

Aristotle,

Well, it does once in a while, and between those times, hope springs eternal.

[The Wine Commonsewer?]

Which stands for what?

If I say I screwed up the Lenny Bruce story because I have CRS it literally doesn't make sense if you write it out in full; as in: .....because I have Can't Remember Shit. So you have to use the abbreviation and use it as if it stands for a real disease of the brain like Alzheimers or a fake one like Sometimers.

[M]

Then there's Waldheim's disease, when you can't remember you were a Nazi.

[Karen]

Someone ought to start a dating service that introduces the guys who look for Filipino mail-order brides to the women who write to death-row inmates. Of course, the membership would include a "spay/neuter" requirement.

Oh and TWC, I more or less started the, er, topic, so I can't complain. Besides, you were really funny. That makes up for an awful lot.

[J sub D]

Someone ought to start a dating service that introduces the guys who look for Filipino mail-order brides to the women who write to death-row inmates. Of course, the membership would include a "spay/neuter" requirement.

Karen - That was cold, cruel and displayed a complete lack of empathy. Two thumbs up.

[Rick Barton]

I would also find a punk rocker with flowers in her hair appealing- Like the sensibility expressed in this song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr9rMqkG9h0

Here's whay I wrote about the song on YouTube and just now re-posted it:

The song is about wanting to embrace both the rebellious and anti-authoritarian spirit of punk with the rebellious and loving spirit of hippie flower power. Very nice. A political philosophy that comes closest here is libertarianism. It's pro peace, free enterprise capitalism, and civil liberties. Of course, not all the thing that she sings about that characterizes 69 and 77 are good. It's much better now that we have computers. Among other things, they enable us to come together at this splendid place in cyberspace

[Rick Barton]

My real faves are libertarian gals. One of my reasons is cuz in some ways they're alot like other gals, cept more so...

[crimethink]

If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
Go for my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you

fan video

[crimethink]

here's that link again

[crimethink]

OK, my links are getting messed up somewhere in the tubes. click on my name for the video.

[Grotius]

thoreau,

From David Hume's Dialogue Concerning Natural Religion:

In a word, CLEANTHES, a man who follows your hypothesis is able perhaps
to assert, or conjecture, that the universe, sometime, arose from
something like design: but beyond that position he cannot ascertain one
single circumstance; and is left afterwards to fix every point of his
theology by the utmost license of fancy and hypothesis. This world, for
aught he knows, is very faulty and imperfect, compared to a superior
standard; and was only the first rude essay of some infant deity, who
afterwards abandoned it, ashamed of his lame performance: it is the work
only of some dependent, inferior deity; and is the object of derision to
his superiors: it is the production of old age and dotage in some
superannuated deity; and ever since his death, has run on at adventures,
from the first impulse and active force which it received from him. You
justly give signs of horror, DEMEA, at these strange suppositions; but
these, and a thousand more of the same kind, are CLEANTHES's
suppositions, not mine. From the moment the attributes of the Deity are
supposed finite, all these have place. And I cannot, for my part, think
that so wild and unsettled a system of theology is, in any respect,
preferable to none at all.

[Rick Barton]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whIVkHR1rUI

H&R's very own fyodor did a groovy take off on that theme!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whIVkHR1rUI

[Rick Barton]

Oops-I double posted the link. I knew that that acid that I did 30 years ago would catch up with me!

[Mulliga]

Thankfully, even the ugliest people don't look too bad when they're in their twenties - it's sort of like a consolation prize from God.

[Col DuBois]

Mulliga: Unless you get married to a girl in her twenties, and then she reverts to her true nature. Consolation prize? More like bait and switch if you ask me.

[The Wine Commonsewer?]

My real faves are libertarian gals. One of my reasons is cuz in some ways they're alot like other gals, cept more so...

Problem is, there's only 37 of them and half of them can't cook. Zing!

[dodges a rotten tomato]

[holds up a sign that says IRON MY SHIRT BABE]

[dodges another round of rotten produce]

[The Wine Commonsewer?]

Crimethink, my dad walked around the house singing that song from the day it was released. I always figured it had a real deep meaning for him.

My mother was quite lovely and he drooled after her from the time he first laid eyes on her at 14 until they were married. His advice to me? Marry someone you like, looks ain't that important and you'll learn to love her.

That only carries so much water for IMO if there ain't no sizzle the rest doesn't fall into place no matter how nice she is.

The down side to that theory is sometimes the sizzle is so hot you get burned.

[The Wine Commonsewer?]

Rick Barton: TWC suspects that you like that song because Sandy Thom is a hottie.

The term punk rocker is almost quaint. Strange how things too hip become so archaic.

[Sean Mitchell]

Just one question to the would-be Darwin Daters: If ugly people are so "unfit," why are there so many of us?

Because Darwin got it wrong: It is NOT survival of the fittest; it IS
survival of the adequate.

[Gene Trosper]

Just one more piece of evidence demonstrating that eugenics is making a comeback.

[The Wine Commonsewer?]

Hey Gene, This thread is dead so you may not see this. But how the heck are you?

[Comic Book Guy]

Inspired by the most logical race in the galaxy, the Vulcans, breeding will be permitted once every seven years. For many of you this will mean much less breeding, for me, much much more.