Don't Talk About the Lawyers!
Micheal Ray Richardson, we Hardaway knew ye:
The Patroons have suspended Richardson for the rest of the CBA championship series for comments made to the Albany Times Union on Tuesday.
Before Tuesdays game against the Yakima Sun Kings, Richardson made anti-Semitic comments to two reporters in his office when discussing the contract general manager Jim Coyne had offered him Monday to coach his team in the CBA and USBL.
"I've got big-time lawyers," Richardson said, according to the Times Union. "I've got big-time Jew lawyers."
When told by the reporters that the comment could be offensive to people because it plays to the stereotype that Jews are crafty and shrewd, he responded with, "Are you kidding me? They are. They've got the best security system in the world. Have you ever been to an airport in Tel Aviv? They're real crafty. Listen, they are hated all over the world, so they've got to be crafty."
And he continued, "They got a lot of power in this world, you know what I mean?" he said. "Which I think is great. I don't think there's nothing wrong with it. If you look in most professional sports, they're run by Jewish people. If you look at a lot of most successful corporations and stuff, more businesses, they're run by Jewish. It's not a knock, but they are some crafty people."
As Steve Sailer points out, these are actually anti-Semitic compliments. The aptitude of Israel's defense mechanisms is pretty well known thanks to our debates stateside about terrorism. Richardson probably damned himself with some extra gay jabs after the Jewish comments, so he'll be punished regardless, but the P.C. enforcement of basketball authorities is a little intense right here.
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Oh man, that's the funniest antisemitism dialog I've read in a long time.
Now one can get in trouble for pro-Semitic remarks? Just finished Sen. Webb's book about the Scots-Irish: he mentions that more than 70% of those of the Jewish persuasion have college degrees, while less than 30% of Evangelical Christians do. Let's tar and feather those who repeat inconvenient facts.
The reporters should have followed up that little gem with a question about his finances.
All stereotypes are true. Even the positive ones.
I think the Patroons should be suspended for *their* anti-semitic views. Apparently, they think it's OK to censure and punish someone for saying nice things about us Jews. It's obvious they want us kept in our place.
How'd you get so smart, Creech? Eating all that matzo?
Hey, I'm not saying that like it's a bad thing. There's a reason you people control the media, the stock market, and the government.
Can complimentary stereotypes be racist? Why, yes, yes they can. Not really a hard concept to get your head around.
I don't know what you mean by that, joe.
Yeah, compliments. Just like noting (or claiming) that black people are better athletes and have bigger cocks is compliment, except...for the fact that these compliments are used in combination with (to justify?) the not so complimentary argument that they are dumber.
I don't think the intentions behind these compliments, the ever so brilliant, but not ain't got no hopps', Steve Sailer points out, are all that opaque.
I'll tell you, those Irish can really hold their liquor.
From the outside, it does seem like Jews, in general, tend to be pretty successful. Perhaps it's because they secretly control the world. Or, call me crazy, perhaps it has something to do with Jewish culture valuing education and achievement and passing those values on to their children.
Kinda spooky, but perhaps true.
*stands by to be Godwined*
"Listen, they are hated all over the world, so they've got to be crafty."
No argument with that. You've got to be crafty to survive for thousands of years in the face of Gentile hostility. If y'all had just let us alone, we'd be as dumb as the average city planner.
I kid, I kid.
"Crafty" is the word that's used to add a touch of malevolence to "smart."
Fortunately, all the city planners are above average.
Steveintheknow,
Sports writers are the worst about backhanded racists compliments. Every black player is a "natural athlete" or "athletic" and every white player is "smart" or "hard nosed" and the like. The implication is of course that black players are stupid but so naturally talented that they succeed anyway and that white players are slow oafs who think their way to success. Compare the image of Mickey Mantle to Willie Maze. You always hear about what a great athlete Maze was, which is true, but Maze never gets credit for being one of the smartest players ever to play the game. At the same time, for my money Mantle is the best natural athlete ever to play baseball. He could do everything, run, hit for average, power, field, and hit from both sides of the plate. The guy had one of the greatest careers ever despite being racked with injuries from his rookie year on and being a complete drunken whore monger who never took care of his body. Mantle was such a great natural athlete none of that mattered because 80% of his athletic ability was better than 100% of everyone else's. Of course, you will never hear anyone refer to Mantle as a "great natural athlete". He has the wrong skin color.
chip bok is not funny.
most young black males i know are strong, and tend to be fast runners.
most mexicans (legal) are hard working people.
most white folk are fairly educated.
stick that up your ass, joe
Wow, the guy who makes sure to write "(legal)" after "Mexicans" doesn't like what I wrote about racism.
That's one point for me.
Willy Maze? Maze?
Sophisticated anti-Semites don't use "jew" as a verb or even as a noun, for that matter. They take the old anti-Jew canards and apply them to Israel, which, as everyone knows is not just a flawed democracy with big problems and many noxious policies, but the puller of strings behind world events. Michael Richardson may be a bit of a boob,but he's welcome at my Passover seder.
John
Agreed.
John,
It's Willie Mays...not Maze...nor Maize... 😉
I know Jimmy, but it was early. Willie Maze is actually an incredibly smart and athletic corn farmer from Iowa who never got the respect he deserved from the folks over at Modern Farmer.
When you look at the Asians, the Asian is very gifted in creation, creativity and inventions. If you go to Japan or any Asian country, they can turn a television into a watch. They're very creative.
Crafty, that's just my type!
Don't forget to order your Passover Pork Chops from Montag's holiday meat store.
Of course, you will never hear anyone refer to Mantle as a "great natural athlete". He has the wrong skin color.
John,
You picked the wrong two athletes to shoehorn into your "argument". Almost everything I've ever read about Mantle has gushed about his natural physical gifts. Comparison between the way they both played center field always credit Mays as playing the position perfectly, while Mantle was able "outrun his mistakes".
My suggestion to Richardson would be to call a press conference and amend his statement this way:
"I've got big-time lawyers," Richardson said, according to the Times Union. "I've got big-time Neo-con lawyers."
When told by the reporters that the comment could be offensive to people because it plays to the stereotype that Neo-cons are crafty and shrewd, he responded with, "Are you kidding me? They are. They've got the best security system in the world. Have you ever been to an airport in Tel Aviv? They're real crafty. Listen, they are hated all over the world, so they've got to be crafty."
And he continued, "They got a lot of power in this world, you know what I mean?" he said. "Which I think is great. I don't think there's nothing wrong with it. If you look in most professional sports, they're run by Neo-conish people. If you look at a lot of most successful corporations and stuff, more businesses, they're run by Neo-conish. It's not a knock, but they are some crafty people."
He shouldn't have any problems after that.
The thing I love about libertarians is that they're amazingly idealistic. I mean, these are people who don't let the complexities of the real world affect their dreams of a utopia where there are no rules but everybody gets along anyway. I also admire their faithful and unwavering devotion to free-market economics and their ability to quickly dismiss any shortcomings that capitalism might posses.
I didn't realize Zalmay Khalilzad, John Bolton, and Donald Rumsfeld had law degrees.
Dan T
Ok, then we'll keep being overly idealistic and blind. But just for you snuckums, just for you.
🙂
David,
Giving Mays credit for being such a snart outfielder is a relatively new phenonmon. For a long time they didn't do that. IN last fifteen or 20 years, baseball writers realized how much they had short changed Mays and the racist overtones of the coverage of his "atheticism" in the 50s and have to make up for it.
In the media's defense they have gotten better at giving black atletes credit for being smart players, but still rarely recognize a great white athlete or admit when a white athlete is a talented but dumb jock.
eb - bzzzzt.
nice try, but doesn't work.
Race aside, exactly how can you watch a guy play center field and tell if he's smart or just really quick? The job of a center field seems to primarly consist of catching fly balls, right?
Dan T- The smart center fielders are the ones who do matrix algebra to pass the time between hits.
Richardson was just doing a metacommentary on racism a la Louis CK or Sarah Silverman only the sportwriters didn't get it. It's hard being the smartest cat in the room.
Maze - what your people call corn.
I had a trained pig once who did matrix algebra while playing center field, but he wasn't that smart. He usually got the answers wrong.
I thought Richardson had learned his lesson after that comedy routine gone bad. Anyhoo, I had no idea he could play b-ball. I also thought he was hilarious in UHF.
The smartest outfielder/1st base player ever(Perhaps the smartest baseball player) was Hank Greenberg.
'nuff said.
Rimfax,
Yeah. I did a double take on the name too.
When I first read the quotes by Richardson, the first think I thought of was Archie Bunkers quote about his lawyers, who in his words were "seven savage Jews that won't leave a scrap of meat on your bones."
OK, maybe Richardson did mean what he said as a compliment, but come on, dude -- you should know better.
Oh, and joe, I can personally attest to the fact that we Irish can't always hold our liquor. At least not on the inside.
Funny story... a few decades back, after my Irish grandmother married my (Ukrainian) Jewish grandfather, their own fathers held an impromptu drinking contest: Whiskey vs. Vodka. Details are sketchy, but if I recall correctly, the Jew drank the Irishman under the table. Take that, stereotypes!
Who was the craftiest Center Fielder?
"Funny story... a few decades back, after my Irish grandmother married my (Ukrainian) Jewish grandfather, their own fathers held an impromptu drinking contest: Whiskey vs. Vodka. Details are sketchy, but if I recall correctly, the Jew drank the Irishman under the table. Take that, stereotypes!"
also known as "fun times at the Jean Bart residence"
[runs off]
Micheal Ray Richardson's latest bit of wordsmithing). It's too bad I'm not an athlete, for I would LOVE to hear what folks think about the following paragraph of fact:
"The Bible is a book of violence being done under the auspices of a self-righteous, overly sensitive prick who commits genocide if a woman so much as looks in a 'forbidden' direction. It is a book that clearly equates homosexuals with child diddlers and considers them to be an "abomination." It commands that children love a "father," and thus is against single mothers who clearly do a better, more efficient, job of parenting. It has certain weird fetishes against shellfish and menustration, and are thus clearly out of touch with today's diets and psychoanalysis. And the passages that justify slavery need no explanation."
These statements are proven FACT, no matter how you interpret them. So, when should I expect to lose my job? For there is no way I'm offering any lame "apology"
The craftiest centerfielder? Hmm?
Does Ichiro do origami?
SPD,
"I can personally attest to the fact that we Irish can't always hold our liquor." Just judging from my own experience, I haven't dropped a glass of Guiness yet.
"Details are sketchy," You don't say.
Speaking of racism...
albo | March 30, 2007, 12:00pm | #
Brotherben, an inner city mother getting $300 a month in welfare is tearing the country apart, a corn farmer getting a $150,000 disaster relief check is the backbone of this country
at least the corn farmer is producing something other than surly, slanty-cap-wearing offspring for his welfare check
I kinda hope they bill him for every minute they see that repeated on TV or come across that while reading.
As Steve Sailer points out, these are actually anti-Semitic compliments.
Weigal double-talk and/or problems with reading comprehension?
Sailer actually wrote: 'Obviously, these are not "anti-Semitic slurs," but pro-Semitic compliments.'
"Pro" and "anti" are equivalent only when viewed from the very goofy (=liberal/socialist) egalitarian world view which insists that all groups of people are the same, at least in every non-trivial characteristic; the supposed insult actually lies in the speaker not accepting that very silly stance.
Here's a couple of articles regarding the mental superiority of Jews:
http://pinker.wjh.harvard.edu/articles/media/2006_06_17_thenewrepublic.html
http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/ashkenaz.htm
"Pro" and "anti" are equivalent only when viewed from the very goofy (=liberal/socialist) egalitarian world view which insists that all groups of people are the same, at least in every non-trivial characteristic; the supposed insult actually lies in the speaker not accepting that very silly stance.
Do you mind if I play around with that a bit?
No? Good.
"Pro" and "anti," in this case, are not equivalent only when viewed from the very goofy (=racist/racialist) elitist world view which insists that certain groups of people are all the same, rather than individuals at least in every non-trivial characteristic; the insult actually lies in the speaker being an ass.
A little better. I don't have enough time. That will have to do.
Being a small part Irish and married to a woman is in large part Irish, I wasn't aware that the stereotype was that Irish could hold their booze just that they drank it a lot of it. I always thought the stereotype was just the opposite; that is of the drunken mic getting shitfaced, getting into a fight and puking on himself in the gutter. You know that kind of thing. Given that, SPD's story seems to fit the stereotype.
I don't see what the big deal is.
Anyway, given the significant number of "miracles" which have been demonstrated to be, well, outright frauds, given all the claims of miracles practiced by other apocalyptic preachers in the first century and their followers, as well as the "miracles" practiced by classical world figures for thousands of years prior to the existance of Christ (that is if he really existed), the latter two of which most folks find dubious at best, it seems persuasive that one should be highly skeptical of claims of miracles. Then again as Hume argues if one tries to "prove" miracles one ends up undermining any claims of such.
Crap. Wrong thread.
Being a small part Irish...
Isn't that just a stereotype too?
Willie Maze? I'm lost.
"Being a small part Irish..."
We can do without your bringing up THAT particular stereotype, John. 😉
Overeducated people with French backgrounds ALWAYS post on the wrong thread.
Look, everybody! Grotius's comment miraculously transported to this thread!
joe,
I'll link to a study proving your point.
Crap. Wrong name.
Oops! Wrong blog.
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Whatever highnumber is always post under the wrong name.
and i blogged. yeah. neener neener.
yeah. white sox. white sox. go go whitesox!
[keed keed]
You made the list, joe & merkinboy.
Crap! Wrong intertube.
hrumph.
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I kinda hope they bill him for every minute they see that repeated on TV or come across that while reading.
Vaddaya tink? Uv cawse ve billed 'im. Cuz foist ve tol' 'im tuh say it.
Dah shmuck.
Is it just me, or does the use of the phrase "proven FACT," automatically mean you're full of crap? Is there some sort of internet law concerning this?
Cheers,
RK Jones
Black people REALLY do not like Jews. I don't know why but it's the absolute truth. I think it has something to do with Jewish landlords.
highnumber squealed:
"Pro" and "anti," in this case, are not equivalent only when viewed from the very goofy (=racist/racialist) elitist world view which insists that certain groups of people are all the same, rather than individuals at least in every non-trivial characteristic; the insult actually lies in the speaker being an ass.
That's a nice, standardized strawman to a claim nobody ever makes, though somewhat tarnished from overuse.
highnumber continue to squeal:
A little better. I don't have enough time. That will have to do.
Please - feel free to continue to display your deep ignorance of statistics, among other things, whenever it makes you feel good about yourself! (Though you might want to enlighten that 'ass' known as Steven Pinker while your at it.)
Note: I'm not Jewish, but I think the Jews are and were one of the best things to happen to humanity. Without them (e.g. people like Pinker , who are the opposite of noisy fools like 'highnumber'), we'd be far behind where we are in physics, engineering, medicine, and civilization in general (though somewhat nullified by the 'contributions' from Jewish lawyers).
Black people REALLY do not like Jews. I don't know why but it's the absolute truth. I think it has something to do with Jewish landlords.
Lots of people don't like Jews, and I'm quite convinced that's it's nothing but pure jealousy. I "look Jewish" and when drunk Indians (or whoever) call me a "Jew" as an insult I take it as a compliment. (I'm no fan of Israel, though, and think it should sink or swim all by itself, just like any other country.)
Here is Podhoretz's (Jewish) interesting "My Negro Problem--And Ours" (1963 terminology): http://www.lukeford.net/Images/photos/out.pdf
He got hit in the head with a baseball bat for answering a school question that a black kid couldn't answer: no landlord needed, just some intelligence and a violent jealousy of that intelligence (and, FWIW, he and his family were quite poor at the time; they were no more landlords than were the black kid's parents).
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You're a racist!
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and you're on the list!
High#:
were you around when Flemur said that the F Lemur character was a mean incarnation of another, regular poster - so it could very well be that this is a troll job.
but put him on, "the list", just to be sure.
then nuke the damned planet from space.
Just to be sure!
hey what VM?
oh, the lemur is back. i didn't notice, i just made myself a new york egg cream with a little fox's u-bet chocolate syrup and you know how it is with the bubbles and all.
anyway, something about pissed-off gefilte fish with frickin' lazer beams on their heads?
I realize the thread may be dead now, but I just found this article, which appears apropos:
http://www.commentarymagazine.com/cm/main/printArticle.aip?article=com.commentarymagazine.content.Article::10855