The Nation's Thin Line in the Sand
So The Nation has roused itself from its Dem-symp slumbers and laid down this following fatwa against go-along pols in the Donkey Party:
We will not support any candidate for national office who does not make a speedy end to the war in Iraq a major issue of his or her campaign. We urge all voters to join us in adopting this position. Many worry that the aftermath of withdrawal will be ugly, but we can now see that the consequences of staying will be uglier still. Fear of facing the consequences of Bush's disaster should not be permitted to excuse the creation of a worse disaster by continuing the occupation.
We firmly believe that antiwar candidates, with the other requisite credentials, can win the 2006 Congressional elections, the 2008 Democratic presidential primaries and the subsequent national election. But this fight, and our stand, must begin now.
Good for them, in stating principles baldly and openly. But I wonder if (and almost certainly when) anti-war Republicans make the scene--a Nebraska Sen. Chuck Hagel perhaps--will The Nation back them over pro-war Dems? Or will, say, candidates' positions on the minimum wage or evolution be seen as more important than the goddamned war? And what exactly can this line mean:
More recently two other presidential contenders, Senator John Kerry and former Senator John Edwards, have begun to call for a shift in policy, though still in vague and reticent terms. More typical, however, are the other presidential hopefuls, Senators Hillary Clinton, Joseph Biden and Evan Bayh, who continue to huddle for cover in "the center." They offer little alternative to Bush's refrain "We must stay the course!" Nor do the party's Congressional leaders and its head, Howard Dean, once a leader of antiwar sentiment. Can such politicians, who cannot even follow a majority--in the Democratic Party, a large majority--really be considered leaders?
Huh? Leaders who can't follow? Followers who can't lead. Whatever. Whole thing here.
Let's try to remember this pledge come the midterm and 2008 elections. Because The Nation has a well-worn habit of pussing out at the moment when an actual election is on the line and a Democrat--any Democrat--might lose to a Republican--any Republican. Because, you know, when you're supposedly representing the left, it's more important to elect party whores rather than show your affiliation with an actual leftist.
Hence, the mag's truly pathetic consecutive election-eve messages to Ralph Nader--with whom they agree on 99 percent of everything.
In 2004, The Nation pleaded:
Ralph, this is the wrong year for you to run: 2004 is not 2000. George W. Bush has led us into an illegal pre-emptive war, and his defeat is critical. Moreover, the odds of this becoming a race between Bush and Bush Lite are almost nil. For a variety of reasons--opposition to the war, Bush's assault on the Constitution, his crony capitalism, frustration with the overcautious and indentured approach of inside-the-Beltway Democrats--there is a level of passionate volunteerism at the grassroots of the Democratic Party not seen since 1968.
That makes you think they might have endorsed Nader in 2000, right? Yet on the eve of Bush vs. Gore, they reasoned:
When our insurgent values have accumulated more momentum and self-confidence, we might see things differently. This time around, we believe the practical priority of keeping the Bush squad from winning power takes precedence, while we also urge that, if possible, progressives help Nader score a blow to the status quo. For the larger progressive community, the tension can be resolved by following the logic of Texas columnist Molly Ivins. Her rule: Vote with your heart where you can, and vote with your head where you must. In states where either Gore or Bush has a commanding lead, vote Nader. In the states too close to call, vote Gore. In either case, the imperative is to end Republican control in Congress by electing Democrats, also vital to the prospects for progressive change.
More on that here. If the left is truly an anemic in American politics, it's at least partly because it continues to play along with a Democratic Party that knows red-diaper types aren't going anywhere else.
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cuz they know red-diaper types aren't going anywhere else? C'mon Nick, you know there is balance in the force...
Anyone, anyone?
the Liiiiiiibertarian party.
I really like Jon Rausch's article put online yesterday about Palestine and Arab Democracy. If the Bush administration was really serious about spreading Democracy in the Middle East, they could have done it through Palestine without the messiness of an invasion.
That being said, I still think that the best argument for going to war was that the US frankly didn't know if Saddam had WMD's or not despite the best efforts of our intelligence dealing with a Saddam who opposed inspections. Since the destruction possible if he did have weapons was so great, mulitplying this times the probability of his having WMDs (we now know it to be zero, but pre-war I'd say it would be a bit higher) meant that, weighing the expected costs and benefits, war was the right choice.
I'm shocked that a site like the Daily Kos would criticize The Nation! 🙂
If the left is truly an anemic in American politics, it's at least partly because it continues to play along with a Democratic Party that knows red-diaper types aren't going anywhere else.
Question is, why is the right not just as anemic? They're just as wedded to the Repubs as the left is to the Dems.
As a person who derives much pleasure from watching the Dems lose, I find this all very cheering.
Because, you know, when you're supposedly representing the left, it's more important to elect party whores rather than show your affiliation with an actual leftist.
lol -- how true. a sad rag.
"it's at least partly because it continues to play along with a Democratic Party that knows red-diaper types aren't going anywhere else."
Uh... 2000 is calling, and it wants its election back. Didn't the red diaper types vote for Nader? DIDN'T THEY HAND THE FREAKIN' ELECTION TO BUSH?
As a person who derives much pleasure from watching the Dems lose, I find this all very cheering.
Unfortunately, the unhappy result is that the Republicans win.
I would love to vote Libertarian except they give me no reason to. They do not and have not worked for a single vote and they don't try to win elections by practicing even the most basic politics to win state or congressional seats. Have you ever seen a Libertarian go door to door? Have you ever seen a Libertarian have a rally or call for get out the vote? How about they actually try to raise money and try to win an election instead of considering it a moral victory to get 3% of the vote? Sure it may mean taking a more compromising gradual approach to the Libertarian agenda, but at least it would get some people who care about freedom in state and national legislative discussions.
Until then, I will vote Democratic if for nothing else than to vote against Republicans, definitely the bigger douche bag operation of the 2.
Sure it may mean taking a more compromising gradual approach to the Libertarian agenda,
You just answered your own question.
I would be far happier with a pledge not to support any candidate who won't pledge to overturn the Patriot Act.
I would also be far happier if commenters would avoid double negatives and using the word "pledge" twice in one sentence. Ugh.
"We will not support any candidate for national office who does not make a speedy end to the war in Iraq a major issue of his or her campaign."
Wow, I bet that's got Clinton, Edwards, Feingold and Kerry shaking in their boots.
Question is, why is the right not just as anemic?
It is.
But that wasn't the question at hand. The topic of the post is The Nation and its interactions with the Democratic Pary (and, by extension, the left in a broader sense).
H&R is rife with deserved criticisms of the right. The basic operating assumption is that both extremes have Issues; this particular lesson just happened to be about left Issues.
Sure it may mean taking a more compromising gradual approach to the Libertarian agenda, but at least it would get some people who care about freedom in state and national legislative discussions.
I agree with you completely regarding this. The LP needs to identify 2-5 issues that both parties are deficient in promoting, and let the outre shit like marijuana sit on the curb.
Until then, I will vote Democratic if for nothing else than to vote against Republicans, definitely the bigger douche bag operation of the 2.
However, here's where we cancel each other out, at least in the last election. Now, I'm voting for gridlock. If Congress stays Repub, I'm voting for a Dem president.
Hmmm ...
Lefties who almost universally, given the results, would have far, far preferred an Al Gore administration to W.'s tenure voted for Nader in large enough numbers in Florida alone to swing the election to Bush. Most of 'em regret it.
It's called letting the perfect be the enemy of the good. You pull your side as much as you can drag it in your direction, but it's still your side even if you don't get 'em very close.
jf,
Yeah, I agree with you about gridlock and its benefits, and it is usually the best situation in a 2 party systems because you might actually see something get vetoed every now and then.
It's just that I'll take the big government party that isn't controlled by religious nutjobs over the one that is any day of the week. Plus, at least the Democrats don't lie about it and say they're not a big government party, like the GOP does.
Rhywun
Unfortunately, the unhappy result is that the Republicans win.
Yeah . . . There is that. On the other hand the Democrats may eventually do so poorly, sink so low that they will effectively cease to exist and can be replaced by a great and more libertarian leaning party.
But they have to hit bottom first.
The LP needs to identify 2-5 issues that both parties are deficient in promoting, and let the outre shit like marijuana sit on the curb.
Is it really just a matter issues or is it tone?
RINO:
I think it's issues. I just have this weird notion that the LP could win a few elections that matter if they focused on issues that actually mattered. Granted, the wacko tone that they tone to display does hurt, but a few good candidates with a solid platform could win, I think. Choosing the right districts/states is crucial as well.
The LP needs to identify 2-5 issues that both parties are deficient in promoting, and let the outre shit like marijuana sit on the curb.
Both parties are pretty deficient in promoting a plan to either win or end the War On Drugs. I don't think everyone agrees what the "outre shit" should be. IMHO, obsessing about the gold standard and abolishing every kind of Federal Department of This and That are things that make people giggle at the LP. I think the WOD is slowly (ever so slowly) turning the corner to becoming a winning issue.
Just to be a dick:
The Nation is a magazine for morons.
But to be fair:
I think that 95% or more of the species of hairless apes known as homo sapiens sapiens are morons.
I don't think there will ever be a viable libertarian candidate (at least at a national level) either. Our country seems particularly hostile to third parties to begin with, but I think one key reason for the LP's ongoing failure is that it takes too much time and effort to win people over to core libertarian principles in an election season.
At election time, a few major issues always emerge. Both the Repubs and the Dems are usually good at staking out a position on each of these issues. Meanwhile, the LP offers a philosophy. Try putting a philosophy in a 30 second commercial. And, if they don't explain the philosophy, then their proposals will sound absolutely crazy. So, the LP has two options:
(1) Stake out their true positions and try to persuade voters that, when one considers the thinking behind them, the ideas aren't as crazy as they might first appear.
(2) Moderate their positions somewhat in an effort to garner more votes.
(1) just isn't going to work, and (2) allows them to fall prey to policy poaching by the other two parties--"Libertarian Lite" either looks too Republican or too Democratic, depending on which issues dominate the election.
But speaking of the Nation...you mean it's still in publication?
wow, 2008 is a long time away. Iraq is coming up on its third vote this year, and millions of people will participate AGAIN. but the Nation thinks being anti-Iraq war will be both relevant and a positive in 2008? yeah, right.
I feel like the problem with so many LP candidates (as has been alluded to), is they don't play by the rules of the game. When Badnarik puts gun control as his #1 issue on his web site, that ain't the biggest issue for everyone else in a national election. Locally? Sure thing.
But I disagree on the philosophy, I think it is something you CAN sell in 30-second ads and sound-bites -- just because people need to be introduced to what libertarianism actually is. Though I also agree you gotta moderate some of your stances on issues in order to be competetive. We gotta take baby steps and need to be relevant to more than our hard-core people.
I prefer the party that fools the religious nutjobs into voting their way, so that they can get enough people elected to CUT MY FUCKING TAXES! I'll be cussing you, Herrick, when I send in my next check.
And the next time I fill up my gas tank.
The last time the LP came up with a moderately and pragmatically libertarian plan - i.e. about the Iraq occupation, nearly everyone who complained about how ideological and non-pragmatic the LP was jumped down their throat.
Damned if they do, damned if they don't. Sometimes I think some of you people bitch about the LP just for the sake of bitching, and not for any valid reason.
"but the Nation thinks being anti-Iraq war will be both relevant and a positive in 2008? yeah, right."
Well, since administration officials, including Donald Rumsfeld, are predicting that the Iraqi insurgency will still be continuing into 2008 and beyond, i.e., still killing/wounding American soldiers, then yes, it would be relevant.
both major parties are controlled by religous nutjobs. it's just not as obvious with the dems cuz it's not an "organized religion." but their core philosophies are all unproven/unprovable and require suspending reason in favor of faith: environmentalism, welfare-stateism, deification of weakness/stupidity/helplessness and demonization of strength/intelligence/self-reliance. environmentalism even has its own "end times" mythology and smug self-righteousness and everything.
The LP will not be a viable political force as long as most people want big government. Duh.
- Josh
We will not support any candidate for national office who does not make a speedy end to the war in Iraq a major issue of his or her campaign.
Hell, who doesn't want a speedy end to the war in Iraq? The real question is, in what shape will we leave Iraq, and on what terms?
Do we bolt January 21, 2009 no matter what?
If not, Mr. Antiwar Candidate, why not? Is it possible that the date of our departure is subordinate to achieving certain goals? If so, what goals?
Until I hear a serious answer to these questions, it is very hard for me to take the antiwar position seriously.
"both major parties are controlled by religous nutjobs. it's just not as obvious with the dems cuz it's not an "organized religion." but their core philosophies are all unproven/unprovable and require suspending reason in favor of faith: environmentalism, welfare-stateism, deification of weakness/stupidity/helplessness and demonization of strength/intelligence/self-reliance. environmentalism even has its own "end times" mythology and smug self-righteousness and everything."
Thanks, Rush.
"I'll bet there will never be a viable libertarian national candidate, ever. I wish I was wrong."
Not as long as people are still saying that "Hillary should run because she's a woman" or "Condi should run because she's black... and a woman"
As long as identity politics have more political importance in our country than actual moral principles, there will not be a libertarian candidate.
Course what do I know? I'm a white male!!! I've yet to be a victim of "institutional prejudice!"
The LP will not be a viable political force as long as most people want big government.
And even then, it would be massacred by anyone who didn't put blue druids up for office.
I prefer my stance of wanting the Democrats (or maybe even the Republicans) to put up someone who would reverse the bipartisan mutilation of the Constitution over the last four years.