Don't Forget Pollin'
An oft-repeated criticism of electoral polls this year has been that they undercount younger voters, expected to turn out in unusually high numbers this time, who primarily use cell phones. (I've no idea whether my friends are representative, but almost none who're roughly my age bother keeping a land line.) So it's interesting to see that Zogby has conducted a text message poll of mobile phone users. Kerry shows a 14 point lead among 18–29 year olds, and the still more surprising number is that less than three percent say they either won't vote or aren't sure they will. (Though I expect that's probably an artifact of both self-selection bias—no numbers on response rates in the press release—and the well known tendency of survey respondents to report far higher voting rates than actually occur.)
On the other hand, this PoliPundit summary of the findings of a recent NY Times poll make things look pretty rosy for Bush indeed.
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Part of me hopes this election demolishes polling once and for all.
The other part realizes that, if that happens, it will just make focus groups more populat.
"Let's see, we've got an Office Park Dad, a NASCAR Dad, a Security Mom..."
Here's Wolf Blitzer the day before the 2000 election. We know how that one turned out.
BLITZER: And now, let's take a look at the latest poll numbers. The new CNN/"USA Today" Gallup Tracking Poll results are being released at this hour. It shows George W. Bush with 48 percent, Al Gore 43 percent, Ralph Nader with 4 percent, Pat Buchanan with 1 percent.
And those numbers are similar to other tracking polls. Take a look: ABC's poll has Bush at 49 percent, Gore at 45 percent; The Washington Post, Bush at 48 percent, Gore at 46 percent; the NBC-Wall Street Journal tracking poll, Bush at 47 percent, Gore 44 percent. And both the CBS and MSNBC-Reuters-Zogby tracking polls have Bush at 46, Gore at 44 percent.
True enough, Gadfly, but isn't someone who told a pollster she's going to vote for Ralph Nader a wee bit more likely to choose the Democrat when she's in the booth than someone who told a pollster she's going to vote for Bush?
There were a whole lot of us who voted for (or considered voting for)...uh...the Green Party electors last time, who decided between Gore and...uh...the Green Party for purely strategic reasons.
Pushing things the other is the likelihood that Gallup's telephone polling is even less accurate this time than last time, and even more skewed towards Bush, because of the cell phone-, first time voter-, and likely voter issues.
http://www.weeklyreader.com/election_vote.asp
This is a crosspost, but My Weekly Reader also polls strongly for Bush. Although MWR voters don't vote, their parents apparently do.
Hold me, I'm scared.
Guys, the survey was of people signed up for MTV's Rock the Vote, hence the high Likely Votership and (less definitively) the big pro-Kerry divide.
Yeah, yeah, the "ute vote, it's gonna save Kerry.... right. The Poor and the utes doan vote and why this cycle will be different I don't know. I believe some people are guilty of making the necessary, possible.
From the polipundit link above: "By a 49%-34% margin, voters expect President Bush to win."
I find it amusing when Bush supporters trot out "expected winner" stats as evidence that Bush will actually win. There are plenty of diehard Democrats I know who are convinced Bush will win because they expect Jeb to steal the Florida vote for him, but that just makes them more determined to vote in their own states.
Yeah right SR, "Steal the election" you guys might get over the 2000 Election one day, trust me, having been there, that kind of anger doesn't help your cause. And please note, where the election results were dubious the polls were controlled by DEMOCRATS, not Republicans. But don't let those pesky facts get in the way of a good rage.
Joe L.: "you guys might get over the 2000 Election one day, trust me, having been there, that kind of anger doesn't help your cause."
Dial it in, Joe. As I have mentioned before on this blog, I voted for Bush in 2000. I said I ***knew*** Democrats who had that attitude, not that I ***was*** one.
Too close to call. And my prediction is that this could be the ugliest election aftermath in history. The days of graciously accepting defeat in a presidential election seem long over.
1. I think the election could still go either way.
2. Bush's immediate pre-election polling lead in 2000 was significantly more than any lead [if any] he has today, so the Left didn't go into the election *expecting* to win.
3. Based on today's polling and spin, I think the Left *expects* to win this time.
4. If GWB does win, expect a Category 5 Bullshit Hurricane.
If Josh would only read the fine print.
?The results of this text-message poll mirror what we?re seeing in our more conventional polls,? said John Zogby, CEO and president of Utica, N.Y.-based Zogby International. ?Among 18-29 year-olds, Kerry leads the President by 14 points?55% to 41% in our current daily tracking poll?virtually identical to these results."
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