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Dean Update

Julian Sanchez | 1.26.2004 12:22 PM

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Judith Steinberg may have brought the defrib pads with her from Vermont: One poll's showing Dean within 3 points of Kerry. Meanwhile, Declan McCullagh looks at Dean's fuzzy views on privacy.

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  1. joe   21 years ago

    Zog's got Kerry's lead at 3, but last night's Boston Globe poll had him leading 37-17. And most of the polls in the days leading up had Kerry with a double digit lead. Different polls vary, but that's messed up. Zogby's alone on this one, so he's either scooped everyone again, or did some bad polling.

  2. shane   21 years ago

    And they all trend in favor of Kerry.

  3. sam   21 years ago

    From the article:
    "We must move to smarter license cards that carry secure digital information that can be universally read at vital checkpoints," Dean said in March 2002, according to a copy of his prepared remarks. "Issuing such a card would have little effect on the privacy of Americans."

    Ummmm, Bullshit! However, I can't really attack Dean on this issue without attacking the whole political system. I don't see too many electable candidates nor sitting presidents who have the sole claim of fully protecting the privacy of Americans. There is just too much money to be made when converting over to a national ID system, its coming no matter who sits in the white house!

  4. Citizen   21 years ago

    Hey I heard Dick Gephardt is polling well in Iowa so I'd expect ... oh, wait ...

  5. Rick Barton   21 years ago

    Dean also suggested that computer makers such as Apple Computer, Dell, Gateway and Sony should be required to include an ID card reader in PCs--and Americans would have to insert their uniform IDs into the reader before they could log on.

    ...making peoples internet use traceable by the government. He screams with enthusiasm. His ideas make us scream in "terror". Speaking of which, just mention that word as in; "cyber-terrorism" and these idiots think it gives them carte blanche to propose all manner of laws that diminish privacy. Also, requiring computer makers to include an ID card reader in PCs is an unconstitutional violation of their rights.

  6. Rick Barton   21 years ago

    ...btw, I guess all violations of rights by the government in the USA are unconstitutional... Which, is what makes them violations.

  7. dj of raleigh   21 years ago

    > requiring computer makers to include an ID card reader in PCs is an unconstitutional violation of their rights.---Posted by Rick Barton
    ==========

    I don't know Rick. I can't hide my phone number from 911.
    I can't drive my car on public roads without a tag,
    a tag that links to my name and address.
    I can't hire on to a job without my SS#,
    even if I didn't want the benefits paid.
    The military keeps my fingerprints on file,
    and shares them with other agencies.
    My job makes me wear a picture ID at all times.
    I personally don't mind the public use ID increase.

    I don't think the anti-spam laws are good.
    If one wanted to send out a gross e-mailing
    for political purposes, then one should be able.
    I say this, hating spam.

  8. Rick C   21 years ago

    Dj, do you see the difference between the examples you list and turning on your computer to play a videogame?

  9. dj of raleigh   21 years ago

    Dj, do you see the difference between the examples you list and turning on your computer to play a videogame?-----Posted by Rick C
    ==========
    Yeap, if you play games on line...are there games on line? I've been wanting to play a video game, a real one, not pac man.

    Israel claims to have a lie detector that is portable and covert,
    and if not now, when, will such be available,
    and then where will privacy be?
    The quest for privacy is going to get harder,
    but look at us, coming on here for all to see,
    and we talk off the cuff about political matters,
    and we don't seek privacy, but input.
    What people want more than anonymity is voice, choice!
    Of course, Rick, I know we have the choice here.

  10. Rick Barton   21 years ago

    dj of raleigh,

    I don't think that any of those items strengthens an argument for the constitutionality of the government requiring computer makers to include an ID card reader in PCs. But any way, about a couple of them...

    "My job makes me wear a picture ID at all times."

    That's OK, that's between you and your employer. You two are voluntarily interacting. [ Do you work for a large poetry concern? 🙂 ]

    "I can't hire on to a job without my SS#"

    Are you quite sure about that? Is it illegal?

    About anti-Spam laws...

    For reasons of liberty I believe:
    If one wanted to send out a gross e-mailing
    for any purpose, except outright fraud, then I think one should be able.

    Also, if I want "protection", the private sector provides lots of options.

  11. dj of raleigh   21 years ago

    I said: I can't hire on to a job without my SS#"
    He asked: Are you quite sure about that? Is it illegal?
    ==========
    Rick, I'm not sure of anything, but death and taxes,
    and SS#'s are used for TAXES.
    I could get a green card, I reckon.

  12. yelowd   21 years ago

    Rick-
    Unless you're working somewhere under the table, you're urged to give your ss# to the company. They're required to have it to hire you. I learned this when I was a lifeguard in HS. I tried to use the Privacy Act of 1973 to say that I didn't have to give them my ssn. I held them off for a couple of months, but eventually they refused to give me my paycheck. That was the Salvation Army so I can't imagine that a for profit Corporation would go easy on someone.

  13. Kai   21 years ago

    On SSN, yes my employer has it but I don't give it to anyone else... and its amazing how many people ask for it... the video store?
    The problem in America is that we have a national ID card. We've had it for years and it doesn't work. Its the driver's license combined with the SSN.

  14. Jean Bart   21 years ago

    I live in NH currently; I spent the last several days going to campaign events of each candidate. While I am not in favor of much of his policy, Edwards is the best orator of the group by a large lead.

  15. Thorley Winston   21 years ago

    Rick, I'm not sure of anything, but death and taxes, and SS#'s are used for TAXES.

    Frankly I'm less upset about having to use an SS# than I about about the 11.67% of my paycheck which is confiscated for the great ponzai scheme.

    That and the $56 Trillion unfunded liability for Medicare and Social Security which are over and above what we are already paying in payroll taxes.

    I'm more concerned about the respective candidate's position on letting worker's invest all or a portion of their FICA dollars. Raising the retirement age and slowing the rate of growth by switching from a wage indexing to a price indexing system (like Reagan tried to do in the 1980s) would go a long way to reducing the funding gap in both programs and avoid a tax increase.

  16. Douglas Fletcher   21 years ago

    The big question is whether or not Ms. Steinberg will be baking any cookies if she moves to the White House.

  17. dj of raleigh   21 years ago

    AUTHOR: dj of raleigh
    EMAIL: danderson19@nc.rr.com
    IP: 24.168.170.41
    URL:
    DATE: 01/28/2004 03:57:17

  18. dj of raleigh   21 years ago

    I live in NH currently; I spent the last several days going to campaign events of each candidate. While I am not in favor of much of his policy, Edwards is the best orator of the group by a large lead. ----Posted by Jean Bart at January

    =========

    I agree. Edwards, as a personal injury lawyer,
    is a legend in this state. That's how he won
    his seat, talking, smiling, not offending.
    He got about 11 million from one case, they say,
    of the 23 million awarded.

    The opposition tried the I-hate-lawyers-who-sue,
    but it backfired.

    I realize you are not an American, Jean,
    but if you could have voted in NH, which
    one would you have picked?

    Kucinich really seems to have been written off
    by the voting public, largely b/c they perceive him as a wasted vote, I guess.

    I think it will be Hillary/Edwards, the yank/reb combo at the convention.
    Hillary without all these primary scars will wed
    the positive campaigner, JFK-like John Edwards.
    Hillary doesn't need the publicity of the primary.
    Of course, I could be wrong.

  19. Brown Kevin   21 years ago

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    IP: 193.251.169.169
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    DATE: 05/20/2004 01:03:39
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