Hotsky Trotsky
Writing in the National Post, Jeet Heer suggests an unlikely inspiration for the Bush administration's foreign policy: Leon Trotsky.
Here's an excerpt. Not particularly convincing, but worth a read.
In seeking advice about Iraqi society, members of the Bush administration (notably Paul D. Wolfowitz, the Deputy Secretary of Defence, and Dick Cheney, the Vice-President) frequently consulted Kanan Makiya, an Iraqi-American intellectual whose book The Republic of Fear is considered to be the definitive analysis of Saddam Hussein's tyrannical rule.
As the journalist Christopher Hitchens notes, Makiya is "known to veterans of the Trotskyist movement as a one-time leading Arab member of the Fourth International." When speaking about Trotskyism, Hitchens has a voice of authority. Like Makiya, Hitchens is a former Trotskyist who is influential in Washington circles as an advocate for a militantly interventionist policy in the Middle East. Despite his leftism, Hitchens has been invited into the White House as an ad hoc consultant.
Other supporters of the Iraq war also have a Trotsky-tinged past. On the left, the historian Paul Berman, author of a new book called Terror and Liberalism, has been a resonant voice among those who want a more muscular struggle against Islamic fundamentalism. Berman counts the Trotskyist C.L.R. James as a major influence. Among neo-conservatives, Berman's counterpart is Stephen Schwartz, a historian whose new book, The Two Faces of Islam, is a key text among those who want the United States to sever its ties with Saudi Arabia. Schwartz spent his formative years in a Spanish Trotskyist group.
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Mike, read your post again and see who's throwing labels around.
drf, as far as magical powers, I can whistle, a talent my grandkids and current girlfriend have yet to master. My dad could wiggle his ears but I can't. Now that's magical.
As far as domestic issues such as the homeless, drugs, etc. we decided to solve that problem long ago by locking the warts of our society up. Whatever resources we were assigning to these people problems, we now pour twice (I'm guessing on the low side) as much into the prison and law enforcement industries.
DRF,
How Republican primary voters came to decide that Georgie Bush was more able to serve as Commander in Chief than John McCain is one of the great political tales of our time.
Dick Lugar. Our political system seems designed to guarantee that men of his caliber will never rise to the presidency. Sad really. If class, competence, ability, and qualification were the determining factors in presidential politics, the Lugar/Tsongas debates would have cured every insomniac in America.
All you of your ilk (not wanting to throw labels around) always respond with "oh just look it up"! You're probably waving the back of your hand at me, with a punctuating "bahhh!" I DID look up "trotsky" and got a bunch of marxist bs; each sect with its own "definition". Come on holger viking (or howbout you Gillespie, you do this all the time), gimme a definition. I am expecting an onion or wunnadem commie matrushka dolls: a buncha layers and nuttin in da middle.
oh, that helps alot.
So Trotskyism is a political ideology
. . . that seeks to spread itself to other countries? (that's unique. the Stalinists certainly weren't expansionist)
. . . that seeks global domination over local domination? (Dr Evil is a trotskyist?)
. . . that seeks to covertly infiltrate other organizations and virus-like insert its ideology over the host ideology? (like that's unique to Trotskyism)
. . . that is an empty pigeon hole which can be used to stuff in anything the writer wishes and seem sophisticated?
"How Republican primary voters came to decide that Georgie Bush was more able to serve as Commander in Chief than John McCain is one of the great political tales of our time."
Maybe they saw that at heart McCain is an authoritarian thug? C'mon, he never saw a problem that a big old dose of jackboots couldn't solve.
Berman was an anarchist, not a Trotskyist.
this is a surprise?
many staunchly pro-israel, pro-(certain) big government conservatives -- the symbol for which is j. goldberg of the NR -- you know, "neo-conservatives" -- started out as trots.
and even if this were the case, so what? learning and knowing different philosophical/ political/ intellectual positions and synthesizing ideas is perfectly fine. we can only hope that many of the PC jackasses (80% of that place) at hamilton college in the late 80s/early 90s can transform a little to the right of their thinking back then!!!
instead of this being interesting on the subject of intervention in iraq, that 1998 letter to clinton, cosigned by wolfie, rummie et al really outlined their vision for FP in that region.
while i cannot stand the NR/ weekly standard/ jonah goldberg/ larry miller/ fox news style, this doesn't give me schadenfreude about that group.
and one thing is for sure: they're doing great vis a vis the un. could anybody imagine president gore (sorry, had to puke for a second) after 9/11? we'd have socialized medicine in the works, kyoto, the world court, he'd be giving blowjobs instead of receiving them. it'd be awful.
chers,
drf
we could get hysterical over this in the same way people got hysterical over clinton's behavior when he was young, too. but commenting that way would get conservatives all in knots. what about bill bennett's ?ber-patriotism when he wrote that open letter to ariel sharon apologizing for bush? that's over the top. there's a difference between support and cow-towing. (not related directly)
Well, maybe, just maybe, drf, after 911 Gore would have treated it as the criminal act it was and not declared an open ended war on evil and civil liberties. He does have a purty mouth, though.
But to the point, I believe this begins to illustrate the problem with really smart people latching on to an idealogy and doing their very best to take it to its logical conclusion. The "correct" idealogy means less to them than their fascination with applying their superior intellect to a problem. The bigger problem, the better. And the longer the experiment goes without blowing up the happier they are with their expertise.
hey Lefty!
"purdy mouth" -- nice. you should hear him squeal (WTMI, sorry)! oh, did you see the anon from yesterday morning who noted you have magical powers? how do you use yours?
and following up on your second point -- we see this example of people wanting to solve problems within a certain ideological framework when dealing with race (the 60s, and Moynihan's work on that; the great society); homelessness (many projects in the 80s); drugs (they're bad, m'kay); and now this.
the interesting one about the homeless i remember is that those interested in working on the project seemed more interested in keeping the money flowing (to themselves) than in actually solving the project. For solving the project would make their jobs eventually disappear. CALL THE MAYTAG MAN!!!!
cheers and "happy" tuesday. and tell walnut grove and the ingalls family hi.
drf
I think it would have been nice to have a president with an honorable military record and a working knowledge of foreign affairs after 9/11.
hey Joe!
greetings to you this fine tuesday!
and that president would be? john mccain? the almost anchor at annapolis? at least we know he's brave and tough. too bad lugar mania never took off. what about jack kemp? gregory peck? (included as a courtesy to bloom county fans)
and dubyah just looks cute as a button in his flight suit... 😉
cheers,
drf
I can't stand these label wars. It's always labels with these leftists. What the f*** is a "Trotskyite/ist"? Lefties bandy the label about as if everyone knows what they mean. Best I can figure it's doublespeak for "enemy". I have no idea what you all mean and, but for your constantly bringing it up, doubt I should care. Since Reason is not a Leftie rag, please define your terms.
Splitters!
"Well, maybe, just maybe, drf, after 911 Gore would have treated it as the criminal act it was and not declared an open ended war on evil and civil liberties."
are you implying gore takes a more libertarian approach?
oen can hardly take seriously Sen. Kerry's allegation that Bush is "not radical republicanism... but extreme libertarianism." howeever, gore would probably have just sat around jerking off to the UN and apologizing to the islamists for being democratic capitalism. he would go on the assumption on people like noam chomsky, which is: people crash airplanes into our buildings, its not logical they'd do it for no reason, therefore its our fault indirectly.
is what he'd have done.
mike -- switch to decaff and trotsky can be looked up. what's a "lefty" here, and not the poster, that is? the notion that labels somehow are for "enemy" is a left wing notion that the right-conservatives have adopted, too. i call my self a libertarian (maybe with capital L, ha ha). of course, i do refer to myself as the enemy, too. so that fits. and those of us in the PFJ are the real thing. we're not splitters, 😀
T Hartin,
I don't think the South Carolina primary voters who showed up at the polls to vote against the alleged father of a mixed race child were thinking about individual liberty.