Cigarette, Dahling?
A couple weeks ago at Cannes, there was an angry outcry after Nicole Kidman lit up during a press conference. Now here's an L.A. Times column touching on some efforts to snuff cigarettes out of the movies; if efforts to pressure Hollywood fail, campaign organizers plan to lobby Washington.
Hollywood glamorizes smoking in films, I hear. The L.A. Times writer notes, "Glantz (an anti-smoking activist) found that the on-screen references to tobacco were almost all positive: sexy, rebellious, cool, defiant. Characters were almost never shown hacking, much less recovering from lung surgery, or burying loved ones dead from cancer….The images associated with smoking in the movies…were the images of cigarette advertising."
(fwiw, that line about hacking may sound ridiculous at first, but: there's no shortage of tearjerkers about the Big C. and yet i suppose they, in their own way, glamorize the experience.)
But I think there's a reason much deeper than some Marlboro shill that cigarettes have their symbolic resonance. There is something sexy, rebellious, cool, and defiant about the kind of thinking that says, "I'm enjoying myself, now. To hell with everything else." Yes, it's also stupid, reckless. But it's a personality that's fascinating, appealing, tragic?especially (or perhaps only) in a world of fiction.
So efforts to write cigarettes out of stories say, "You can't tell your story this way." And that bugs me - whether it's a Hollywood bureaucracy or a governmental one that would set the rules.
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yeah yeah yeah.
this is yet another chapter in the "movies make our children do [insert activity of choice]"
those who are against smoking, however, might ask the same question about sex or violence. or what happens when the smoking, sex, and violence forces join? is it as slim pickins notes in Dr. Strangelove: "sounds like a pretty good weekend in vegas"...?
either way, the bureaucrats win, as noted!
cheers,
drf
There's also the X Files and the Cigarette Smoking Man to consider:
http://www.canoe.ca/TelevisionXFiles/cigarette.html
Wonder how they'll handle weight. You hear how the images of thin actresses are bad for girls' self-esteem, etc. But isn't the message of "Real Women Have Curves" just as dangerous from a health standpoint as glamorizing smoking?
who do they think makes cigarettes cool? this kind of puritanical crap practically screams "idaho knitting circle ladies against tobacco." and as we all know, banning something and making it anti-establishment to do it is the easiest way to make something uncool. what self respecting adolescent does something that his culture constantly reinforces is bad?
RS,
I have to vehemently disagree with you. First, the continuous onslaught of size zero advocacy from every corner of the media is overwhelming. As a society we have embraced a standard of feminine beauty that goes beyond thin and is clearly unhealthy for any foolish enough to pursue it. I think the term 'heroine chic' speaks for itself, and if you open any fashion mag today, the models featured look as though they were just liberated from Auschwitz. Second, I find that the film "Real Women Have Curves" is miss-titled. It is more of a (done to death) feminist message that women should be appreciated for things other than their bodies. Unfortunately it fails in it's promise to champion (the much more daring) size positive message. At one point the protagonist states that "I'd like to be thin, but?" Even more disappointingly, she is given a high quality, made to measure, dress by her sister but we never get to see her in it. In fact she is constantly presented in frumpy comfort clothes with no makeup or hairdo.
Moreover, the dangers of obesity are well known and more to the point, well fretted over. There is nothing healthy about anorexia. Or the ubiquitous clothes hanger body. A truly healthy female body image would in fact include a noticeable amount of soft fat on top of firm muscle.
Off the soapbox now. Free speech, free press, personal responsibility. Hollywood should be allowed to show whatever they want (cigarette smoking lollypop with bowling balls, etc.) We should be allowed to view what we want, eat what we want and smoke what we want. Do what you want but don't go blaming others for your poor health and low self esteem.
. . . there's no shortage of tearjerkers about the Big C . . .
. . . and no indication (or exceedingly rarely) that the victims ever got it as a result of smoking. Rather, cancer victims in movies are always Innocents Struck Down In The Prime Of Life By Tragic Happenstance.
Warren,
Um, I'm pretty sure that the dangers of anorexia have been well publicized. In fact, I'm confident the whole topic has been afterschool-specialed, health-classed, and Cosmo-magazined to death.
Also, complaining that society has "embraced a standard of feminine beauty that goes beyond thin" is soooo 1994. For that matter, have you opened an actual fashion mag lately? Thin is no longer really in. Not stick-thin, at least. Buxomly seems to have been the go-to look in trendsetter circles for the past handful of years.
With all of the draconian/Californian laws I've actually become More defiant, I PAY TAXES TO SMOKE Do you pay taxes to breathe? hehehe
Jacques,
You are right of course about the anorexia thing. I didn't hit that note the way I meant to (i.e. thin does not equal healthy) so my bad. Although as far as Cosmo is concerned with every image in every issue reinforcing the waif motif, any anti-ano article they run can only be interpreted as a 'how to' piece.
As far as what's hot in fashion these days, as a middle-aged male, I am sooo not an authority. However, a twenty-minute browse of vogue.com yielded scores of fashion images, exclusively of skeletal-thin models. So I don't know, is Vogue 'out'? I kind of think they still have market share and if there was any serious threat from models with a figure (and I mean any figure at all) I would think they would have to be making some concession.
If by buxom you mean the 'emaciated with implants' look now sported by every woman in greater Los Angeles, well I may be alone in finding it freakish and pathetic, but it certainly isn't healthy.
Me thinks people overemphasize the influence of fashion/women's magazines. Just take your car out and ride out in America a bit. I think you'll rather quickly conclude that obesity is affecting a lot more people than cigarettes, or for that matter weed or H. Which, one can always hope, would force people to see how silly it would be to outlaw Twinkies or Kate Moss pictures. The government shouldn't be in the business of seizing Big Macs or outlawing feathers (ya know, anorexia paraphernalia).
I think you'll rather quickly conclude that obesity is affecting a lot more people than cigarettes
I didn't know obesity affected cigarettes at all.
Merci Jacques zee grammarien.I am euh quite desole if zee construction confounded you.
Two comments:
1)Heroine chic - Does this mean girls are dressing like Pauline and Ripley, or more like Seven of Nine (grrrolw)
2)Who cares what German's think is a good idea. They've had some pretty awful ones in the past.
Hollywood movies don't make smoking cool.... it's in the movies because people already think it's cool, even some people who don't smoke and/or know it's bad for you. It does tend to go with the 'bad boy, antiauthoritarian' image that is so popular in many protagonists (I have noticed that villians rarely smoke as often as the hero/heroine). The more the anti-smoking rhetoric gets pushed, the more capital you get in the image. On the other hand, if people start to become that offended by smoking (the same way they're offended by drug use, for example), then the film producers will stop using that imagery.
Anorexia is far less common a health problem in this country than obesity. One would think that the health nannies that want to tax twinkies etc. would be all over pushing the 'herion chic' idea of beauty, just to encourage the chunky set to put down that chocolate eclair and hit the gym running 😉 I do think that some fashion mags are showing more 'full figured' women (translation: still skinnier than anyone you know but not skeletal) but overall it's still basically the normal body shape of a 14 year old girl being protrayed as normal for 25 year olds. I think some of that is due to television - it really does add 10 pounds or so (so do photographs too, I've noticed) and I think it's the result of the optical distortions created by reducing something three dimensional to a two dimensional image. Thus, in order to look super skinny on TV or in a magazine, you have to be even skinnier in reality.
How does this actually effect young girls around America? I'm not sure, most of them that I see aren't usually anorexically thin nor are most obese. However I've seen a fair number of teenage girls wearing the midrif-baring shirts that probably shouldn't be and/or wearing clothing that is a little too tight for their particular % body fat, so I can only conclude that a lot of them have a higher self image of beauty than they really merit - kind of like everyone else, come to think of it. So while many young women might be delusional, it appears to be erring on the healthier side, IMHO.
Given my twenty years here on earth, I can say that at least in my experience (10 years in Augusta, GA, 19 years in Alabama, assorted months spend in the Southeast and England) I can say that Anorexia is nowhere nearly as much of a threat as obeasity is.
What people have to contend with, is that a "diet" won't get you much, but a lifestyle will.
My former fiance', Esther was on the upper end of 5' (I forget exactly where) and at her heaviest, weighed 115lbs. How many girls would kill for that? Of course, how many girls would live the way she did? Raised by missionary parents in Senegal, Africa, she is an almost strict vegan (excluding the occasional ice cream or chocolate), eats utterly screwy items such as breakfast cerial with orange juice rather than milk, penut butter and honey sandwitches, for enjoyment rather than watch television (impossible.. a movie at best) walks on the coast (Noth Cotes to Cleethorpes... below freezing - dragging me along!!!) for fun on a daily basis, drinks caffinated soft drinks maybe once a month (made me give 'em up for a month!!).
I don't think people are really suggesting that you live the way she does, but when you're chugging down that 44oz. gas station cherry pepsi, with a breakfast of frosted sugar coated molasses dipped chocolate puff balls in full fat milk, followed by Pizza Hut buffet for lunch with some KFC (or the home made equivalent) for dinner, not to mention the ever-present can or 20oz. of Pepsi (I still go through one a day), not even counting on when you grow up in the real world (University, apparently being the fake world) and have your 27 cups of coffee (or double latte' for your urbanites) every morning, there's a reason you look like the good year blimp, rather than a wanton sex goddess.
Of course, coating your lungs in tar isn't the best way of keeping the next twinkie out of your mouth.
Either way, it's a lifestyle choice, and sin taxes are a horrid way to stop either.
-Robert
Jacques,
Obesity is more of a threat to cigarettes than you realize. I know of nearly a dozen women and a couple of men who have started/restarted smoking in order to help them lose weight. The cigs mistakenly assumed that these people were not a threat, and then 'puff' reality struck and sent them to oblivion. Obesity is a threat to the peaceful exsistence of cigarettes eveywhere.
I think poor math skills are a bigger problem than obesity in this country.
We smokers are just the easiest targets these days, and it's only getting worse:
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_789130.html?menu=
Publisher bans employees from smoking at home
A Berlin publishing house says its workers are not allowed to smoke - even at home.
All 13 employees of Eitmann-Verlag have signed an affidavit in which they confirm they don't smoke at all.
"We want to send a signal to protect non-smokers," business manager Frank Woeckel told Bild newspaper.
"The books we publish deal with the environment, health and the dangers of second-hand smoking. Smoking employees don't go with this."
Mr Woeckel says the clause isn't just restricted to work hours.
"They can't smoke in their free time, either, that would be a breach of contract," he told the paper.
"All we want is employees who support what we do."
Twistedmerkin, ssshhhh! (Hush!) Don't say that too loud -- about poor math skills being a bigger problem in this country.
If people find out and start doing something about it, hell, I'll be out of a job!!
(I'm with the IRS)
Be quiet, will you.
I have a question!
Here it is:
And what, precisely, made your children stupid?
Guess that was Hollywood too. I wonder if Hollywood also gave the children the money to go to movies...ah, I guess I'm just old fashioned.
Nothing would hurt the State of California more than outlawing cigarettes: "THINK ABOUT IT, WON'T YOU???"
Man, 1040-lover, that post was damn funny!
Back to the obesity thing. I've been around the block, and there are definitely more fat asses around than 15 years ago. It's highly noticable, and I don't like it a bit (but not recommending legislation, of course).
This is about the only time lately where the news people have been on a big roll about something (asteroids coming down at us, spotted owls, global warming, and other assorted BS trends ...) and been other than full of s__t. This is real people, and it's happening right in our own backyards and on our sidewalks - make some room for a poor rollerblader, you fat sumbitch ...!
Couldn't the rise in obesity - however defined - be the result of an aging population? Are there more fat kids around today, or just more fat upper middle aged people?
Neither. There ain't no "rise in obesity." If you believe that, you're a victim of media hype. The topic is simply more in focus, thanks to an explosion in today's media coverages -- on just about everything; from your toe fungus, to your sex life, to physical appearances.
Back then, when we worked 48-hrs a week, when smoke stacks were a common sight, when some steamships still had sails, and when the Model-T chug-chugged along unpaved streets -- back then there were a lot of fat people (maybe even more so.)
And long before that, during the time of Henry VIII, when people ate everything, from pigs, to oxes, to greasy ducks and chickens (merrily fried in lard) -- back then people were even fatter.
No one said a word about it.
Nowadays, however, our noses get rubbed into it, thanks to "news"-hungry media people who must write about something, anything, if they are to have a job.