Santorum Update

It's no surprise, but the polygamist community isn't very happy with Sen. Santorum either.

Comments

[Shady O'Grady]

I tried to bring this issue up before but no one took the bait. These guys are really a bunch of moralizing monkeys. It reminds me of the joke where one guy tells another guy he's been getting it on with horses at the local racing stable. His friend replies, dumbfounded, "You've been havin sex with stallions?!?" To which the zooaphile responds, "Stallions?? I've been having sex with the mares. What do you think I'm gay!?" Here's what I posted earlier:

Maybe I can appeal to the libertarian extremists here and say that the maybe the horrid things that the good senator compares homosexuality to should, perhaps, be legal too. Jenny and Chrissy want to marry Jack, is this going to cause a problem? Married people cheating is nothing new, it happens in the first book of the Bible for god's sakes. And incest... why does this word always get grouped one to one with pedophilia? Getting it on with your (of age) sister might seem twisted, but why should there be a law against it? I think the overly politcally correct homosexuals out there are reinforcing Santorum's moralizing by picking any choosing things that we should claim to be atrocious. Next thing you know there will be mobs of queers Mormon bashing.

[John]

Hello from The Land Of Olympic Bribery!

In theory, there should be nothing wrong with polygamy.

But in practice, it's federally funded child molestation.

Wackos in southern Utah marry 14-year-olds, knock them up; then the girls go on AFDC.

Of course, the proper response to this would be to Air Condition the child molester's skull with a 50-caliber and to end AFDC, food stamps and all other welfare. Including the farm subsidies that some polygamists get. Having to pay for their own wives & own kids without government help would make monogamy very popular in southern Utah.

And there's even sicker than that. In northern Utah; another group called the Kingston family marries their nieces, cousins, etc. So we get to pay for their AFDC and the medicare for their inbred kids.

Air should be illegal if polygamists breath it.

[geophile]

I've got nothing against polygamy when all involved are over 18 or something, but one of the big things about the Mormon extremists that practice it is that they like to marry very young girls. The whole thing reduces women to property, essentially. It's one thing if they're all consenting adults, but the parents of 13 year old girls aren't allowed to barter them away anymore than 13 year old girls are allowed to barter themselves away.

Bestiality should be illegal if the human doesn't own the animal, or lacks an agreement with the animal's owner.

As to consenting (adult) incest, this is just as impractical to enforce as homosexuality, and there's no compelling state interest in controlling such behavior. The birth defect argument is an impotent one, as there are no laws barring the mentally handicapped from procreating. (Well now that I say that, I'm not sure... correct me if I'm wrong.)

[Kevin Carson]

Shady:

The way I heard it, the boy confessed to having sex with barnyard animals. His father confessor asked, "Were the animals male or female, my son?" The boy's response: "Male, of course--what do you think I am, a goddamned homo?"

The LDS church banned polygamy, but all the theological bases for it remain intact. Utah strikes me as a bunch of theocratic pod people who modified their practices just enough to barely pass as normal Americans, so as to prevent the U.S. Army from turning SLC into a smoking ruin.

As for Santorum, I keep wanting to call him Tor San Rectum.

[Shady O'Grady]

Banning incest because Mormons marry 13 year old family members is like banning barbeque sets because people are roasting children. Let's ban the child roasting, lets ban the pedophilia, lets stop letting societital norms dictate our laws. The alternative is Sharia.

[Hank Kingsley]

Any activity (sexual or not) between consenting adults should be legal; I'd be very interested in hearing anyone on this website trying to argue otherwise. I also believe the age of consent should be lowered a few years but that's a whole nother can of worms. I'm not sure how much consent is involved in beastiality but I hope that the activity isn't common enough that I really need to worry about it. There's an article on all this in Slate, wherein the author asks gay rights advocates why incest shouldn't be legal and does not get a satisfactory response:
http://slate.msn.com/id/2081904/

[Kevin Carson]

Hank:

As to consenting animals, there should probably be a spectrum of implied consent: anything with little or no cerebral cortex should be under statutory rape protections. For example, Larry Flynt's claim that "the chicken was askin' for it" shouldn't hold water. And don't even get me started on gerbils....

Has anyone seen Evel Karaoke's Elton John parody, "Gerbil in Your Ass"?

[omnibus bill]

ESmith?

I think I liked the old analog version better.

[Kevin Carson]

esmith:

Please explain how pacifism is compatible with the state "investing" in edumacation or any other activity. The money that goes to the publick skools comes from the very same place as the money going to the M-I Complex: robbery at gunpoint. Regardless of foreign wars, so long as the state exists it will be at war against its own people.

[esmith]

Bill: Could you elaborate?

Kevin: Can I put my explanation on my blog?

[omnibus bill]

Kevin,

You mean to tell me that you have a problem with inter-species love? What kind of a sick bigot are you? Species-ist! Hate Crime!

As Dr. Peter Singer, professor of ethics at Princeton will gladly tell us, if it's good for the chicken, then it's ethically permissible.

From a legal standpoint, who cares about what a chicken thinks. It's chattel. It doesn't have rights any more than your sofa has rights. I cannot imagine that there is any libertarian justification for granting rights to animals.

Besides, what people do in their bedroom is their own business. Right? Hello? Why is it suddenly so quiet in here?

I think that was Sen. Santorum's point about the slippery slope.

[Sir Real]

I think that Sen. Santorum's point was about bringing the government into my bedroom, and that is a slippery slope indeed.

[Kevin Carson]

esmith:

Sure. If you don't mind, send me a URL c/o the email address on my site.

[esmith]

Well nothing is happening in my bedroom so they can bring everybody in. I think Mr. Santorum has a right to speak about sex if he wants to. Maybe he has a need to. He has seven kids I think so he obviously knows what to put where. Anyway, I like it when they talk about sex in Washington because it's a change from talking about killing people. The chest beating has been so loud I'm
expecting Ari Fleischer to swing into the press room off of a tree limb in a Tarzan suit. If you're a peace loving person who likes pansies you might as well just shut up, keep sending in those checks to the IRS and keep a low profile because it is really getting scary out there. None of the programs I would like to invest in like education or the elderly seem to important if they ever were and it's kind of amusing when they get sidetracked about the pledge and prayer to think that the school might not be there pretty soon for them to say the pledge and prayer in.

[esmith]

I have a blog but I started writing stuff about when I had sex once and the guy braided my hair and I decided to take it down. It was a nice memory but who really wants to know about someone else's sex life? You know what I mean?

[Zev Sero]

Consenting animals? Statutory rape? Explain this: you have every legal right to cut the sheep's throat, to which it surely doesn't consent, so what possible justification is there for throwing you in jail for copulating with it? What, you're causing it psychological trauma?

[joseph smith]

In latin america little children are kidnapped by mormon cia and fbi agents taken to salt lake city and sacrificed in the mormon temple. President Pace did a report on satanic ritual abuse that gos on by top officials in the church practising this degenerate witchcraft in the salt lake temple. Hinckley had to send Pace over seas to Australia for a mission for three years so no one can ask him about this controversial report see light house ministries sandra tanner for the report. Utah is run and controlled by men that haven?t worked an honest day in their lives living like kings off the welfare of the church eat at five star resturaunts, stay in luxury hotels and travel first class on plane trips and they call themselves apostles of the mormon faith while dieing and starving children eat their own dung across the border in mexico. So John before you get trigger happy and want to put a bullet in the head of a waco southern utah poligamist whose wives live off welfare how about considering the amount of money those self righteous apostles make each year 50 billion dollars living off the fat of the poor who pay tithes and offerings and how much money these tax evaders avoide tax every year while they tell their members to render unto caeser or they will report you to the irs and you won?t qualify for a temple recommend!!!!This ain?t king george tyranny this is false lieing theives who claim to be men of God money changers that turned the house of prayer into a multi billion coporation that kill in the name of God!!!