Will We See Ron Paul in NH Debates?
Nick Gillespie | January 2, 2008, 8:07am
The NY Times and others report on how Fox News and ABC is working to keep Ron Paul--the $20 million man--out of its debates in New Hampshire this Sunday; ABC is holding out possibility of inclusion based on results in Iowa and polls, though that's a small crumb for a guy who is massively successful in terms of fundraising and besting ghost candidate Fred Thompson in various surveys. Even Cap'n Ed Morrissey of Captains Quarter, no RP man that's for sure, finds the preemptive Paulophobia off-putting:
It makes little sense to start excluding candidates just before the first meaningful vote gets taken. Raising $19 million in a quarter shows at least some level of significant support, even if limited to the fringes of the GOP and Libertarian parties. Also, if Fox wants to rely on polling, Paul does at least as well as Thompson in Iowa and perhaps better at the moment in New Hampshire. Why not just wait for the results from Iowa to make that determination for both parties, as ABC plans to do?
More here.
reason on Ron Paul here.
nholy1 | January 4, 2008, 2:59am | #
Have you all noticed how Ron Paul has:
1. Been excluded from much of the media attention and in articles?
2. Been the target of articles that are specially formatted to subtly turn him into looking like a joke?
I believe this is because big business in this country and the powerful are scared of Mr. Paul since they can not control him. Nothing that you look at in his record makes him look like a freak or a joke. There is no dirt. And he can not be bought by big business. Do not be fooled by all of this. It is sad, because we have become a nation it seems where the media and polls are deciding who we elect even before we cast a ballot.(Paul being excluded from debates based on just polling) That is horribly dangerous. And the people being taken by this scam are the middle and lower classes in this country. Wouldnt it be refreshing to have someone in office you could actually trust for once who would try to protect our country for us and our future? We should all look closely at why we would vote for a person like Ron Paul. I personally would because even though I may not agree with everything he says, I do know that what he stands for is what I will get. His actions for years have spoken much louder then all the other candidates words combined! And I will admit I agree with most of his logic since this country is/was created based on what he is supporting. And I know he will look out for “we the people” and our rights...not some big company or world government.
Big business and big media are also very scared of Ron Paul because he could really screw up their system and control over you and I. And by the way, when they call Ron Paul an Isolationist this is just a negative label on a positive stance. These days Isolationism is no longer refraining from trade with the guy next door or refusing to have a good relationship. Isolationism today is opposing the push for the US to be part of Mexamericanada! I think a good majority of Americans would NOT support that! Just ask Glenn Beck.=-)
Furthermore, I dont care if you are smart, dumb, poor, or middle class. If you want to keep this country and our standard of living, defenses, opportunity, and constitution in place, you should vote for Ron Paul and Ron Paul only. Mainly because his actions show that this is what he will protect and I honestly believe he will do what he says based on his past actions not his words. Especially when there has been pressure for him to do something different and he has consistently held his ground. How many of the other candidates can you say that about? How many of them will shift based on party beliefs rather then our beliefs as a country and our constitutional rights?
I really hope this will sink into the minds of whoever reads this. The media is trying to take a good and solid leader and make him look like you would be a freak like all the other people who support him if you also support him. Why do you think they would be working so hard to do that if they were not scared? Do they ever talk about the good hardworking people who are normal upstanding citizens who support him? Trust me, there are plenty of them. The media concentrates on the fringe of his support. Can you imagine if they did that and what those articles would look like for Guliani, Romney, or any of the others? They dont because they are part of the "system" and “on board” where as Ron Paul is not someone they could control. And because of that fact they would not try to aggressively discredit the other candidates or make them into a joke.
I look at Ron Paul as similar to Abraham Lincoln. Can you imagine a United States without him? One good man like Ron Paul could really change the world if given the chance. The question is how much more are Americans going to take before it is to late and we will no longer have an opportunity to turn the boat around? That scares me also because I feel like we are very close to that point. And I am a normal working stiff like many of you in the middle class...nothing special...have some education...a decent job etc. But I am very afraid without some "tough love" for our government from a man like Ron Paul, we may not even recognize this country 10 years from now if we are still even "A" country. Even if Ron Paul could just do one thing, like get rid of computerized voting machines for instance, this would be a major step in the right direction.(that, however, may end up also being reason he does not get elected)
And just because the next Non-Isolationist President might say we are "separate" countrys like the EU does with its member countrys now, dont you see how this really just becomes a blurr and for show until we would all be melded into one? We would eventually be like a “state” in our own country with only limited power and rights to control our own destiny. This is not a dream, a joke, or funny. This is very seriously becoming a reality as we speak behind our backs. Just as serious as the goings on in a certain European country were about 70 years ago. This is where I feel we are headed and it scares the heck out of me and it should scare you also. So what can you do? Just do something! Anything x 300,000,000 people=power. That is the true poll and equation in this country! Don’t stand by and let this happen…and a vote for Ron Paul would be a good start.
