David Koch Ran for Vice President with the Libertarian Party in 1980. The New York Times Thinks You Should Care, Isn't Sure Why.

The Sunday edition of The New York Times has the latest from 1980 for you, today: David Koch (of those Koch Brothers we're pretty sure you are kind of scared of and hate, for some reason you might not be sure of) is running for vice president with an obscure third party, the Libertarian Party! 

Author Nicholas Confessore brings up little that would even have been particularly interesting in 1980, much less now, past his opening paragraph that explains aspects of libertarianism that might confuse people who see the Kochs strictly as sinister right-wing oligarchs:

[David Koch as L.P. vice presidential candidate] backed the full legalization of abortion and the repeal of laws that criminalized drug use, prostitution and homosexuality. He attacked campaign donation limits and assailed the Republican star Ronald Reagan as a hypocrite who represented “no change whatsoever from Jimmy Carter and the Democrats.”

Times researchers were trying to dig up footage of a David Koch speech from an L.P. event in 1979 for this story, saying the story was about the L.P., though it is really about the Kochs. The story does little to contextualize what that campaign meant, either then or now, has few voices to help either reporter or reader understand this strange world they are uncomfortable with, other than the blank voices of documents, among "thousands," that the Times rather fruitlessly dug through from the L.P.'s archives at the University of Virginia. (Deep historical reporting from from an actual archive! Sort of hidden, in a way! That they were "alerted" to, as the story itself honestly admits, by "American Bridge, a liberal political organization that has been critical of the Kochs," who must be very disappointed in the results.)

The headline is "Quixotic '80 Campaign Gave Birth to Kochs' Powerful Network." More accurate headlines might have been "Quixotic '80 Campaign Caused Kochs to Completely Shift Their Political Change Strategy"  or "All-Powerful Political Manipulator Koch Brothers Couldn't Even Bend Tiny Third Party to Their Will for Long," as the Kochs and their lieutenants failed to get their man Earl Ravenal the L.P. nomination for 1984 and left the party in a huff. More depth—any depth—about the ways in which the Clark/Koch campaign was perceived at the time by some on the right as a left-wing takeover of the L.P., and by many of the more radical in the L.P. as a wan mainstreaming of a radical message to mere Kennedy-style "low-tax liberalism," might have educated their readers about this whole "Libertarian Party" thing a bit better.

To be fair to Confessore, it is true that that David Koch's run with the L.P. was at least the zenith in the Koch brothers' first foray into electoral politics after earlier ideological activism more of the Institute for Humane Studies variety in the early to mid-'70s—supporting scholarship and seminars on things like Austrian economics and the possibilities of anarchism, before Ed Crane (who co-founded the Cato Institute with Charles Koch, David's older brother, and helped run the Clark/Koch L.P. campaign) helped convince Charles that electoral politics could be fruitful for libertarian change. After all, the Kochs' earliest mentor in libertarianism was the stridently apolitical Robert LeFevre of the Freedom School who thought any sort of political action both immoral and useless.

I spent a week in that University of Virginia L.P. archive myself back in 1998 when I was researching my book Radicals for Capitalism: A Freewheeling History of the Modern American Libertarian Movement. I dug back through my old notes today after reading the Times's story and felt a bit of pity for them: it isn't like they missed much interesting, but I suppose upon hearing there was this "unknown" archive with thousands of potentially Koch-damning documents in it, they had to keep going, and to dutifully write up the results, however unilluminating to fans or foes of the Kochs or the ideas they support.

I was however reminded today, going back through those notes of mine, of a couple of things I found amusing then: that the Times itself in writing on September 10, 1979, about the nominating convention for Koch and presidential candidate Ed Clark, seemed to have no idea at all who the Koch family was, referring to David not as part of any petrochemical or engineering company or as superwealthy but merely as a New York lawyer. Also, that David seemed to scrupulously expense back many of his campaign costs on the road to the party. (Although he was often in effect merely round-robin paying for them himself, with $2.1 million of the $3.5 million the campaign raised coming from him. Of course, the ability for him to self-finance his own campaign without running afoul of campaign finance law was entirely the reason Koch became the vice-presidential candidate.)

If one was trying to really study interesting shifts in the thoughts of the Kochs from their more explicitly libertarian movement days to their current role as power brokers in the Republican Party (rather than pretend in a headline as if they are all of a piece, as if those L.P. days "gave birth" to their current "powerful network"), you might look to another part of my book Radicals for Capitalism, in which I quoted from a roundtable in the May 1978 issue of none other than Reason magazine, where David's older brother Charles Koch said:

Our greatest strength is that our philosophy is a consistent world view and will appeal to the brightest, most enthusiastic, most capable people, particularly young people. But to realize that strength, we have to state it in a radical, pure form...the other side of that is our greatest weakness: that is, because we have a radical philosophy we don't appeal to people who are in positions of influence, people with status or wealth....So the temptation is, let's compromise...let's be much more gradual than we should be. As a result, we could destroy the appeal to the comers of the world, and therefore we destroy the movement.

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  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    I'm sure most people already knew this about David Koch, but I just found out the other day:

    He was a passenger on US Air flight 1493 which crashed on landing at LAX.

    I was watching Air Disasters with my kids, and there he was in an interview. Great episode.

  • Sudden||

    I bet every prog who sees that wishes he was among the dead. Because they clearly have the monopoly on tolerance and peace.

  • Hyperion||

    Well, obviously, the crash was because Kochtopus! And the only reason he survived was because one percenter and a deal with Satan! I'm sure that all the little people died when Kochtopus bought up all of the seat cushions and tray tables and used little children as as air bags!

  • Mr Whipple||

    He must have rustled someone's jimmies.

    Nigel Farage makes a living on rustling the Eurofantics' jimmies and....

    http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multi.....30932i.jpg

  • Hyperion||

    You know what else the Koch Brothers did? They arse raped Shreeky as a child!

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    I think somebody at his church did, at the very least. The Christ-fag thing is pathological.

  • Sudden||

    Interesting. So he was raised Catholic.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    IDK, is Catholicism big in Georgia?

  • Hyperion||

    No, when Shreek was arse raped by the church elders, they were speakin in tongues.

  • Pro Libertate||

    It's big with Georgia Catholics. Not so much with the Baptists and everyone else.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    My butthole is as pure as the Virgin Mary's bukkake face.

  • ||

    Sooo...

    Yes?

  • Hyperion||

    There isn't anything about him that's not pathological. Not sure if anyone else has noticed, but he's well on his way to a complete meltdown, Mary style.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    I just saw the other thread.

    Jeesh.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    HEY! CHARLES KOCH! YOU WANT $20 BILLION? COME SIGN THIS PAPER!!!!

  • Duke||

    Chicago Guy:

    The Koch's represent the absolute worst that this country has to offer. Unfortunately, they aren't alone. And we risk allowing them to become a plurality to our own peril as a democracy. They are, ultimately, the new Proto-Americans, as defined by our current extreme right wing conservative court.

    I'm glad the court recently raised the campaign contribution limit from $140,000 to $3,200,000 per person, so as to allow the "real voices" of the American people to be heard - LOUD AND CLEAR!

    If money = speech, then power = speech, and no power = no speech.

    The Koch's are the poster boys of our utterly dysfunctional and totally corrupt legal and political system. And they are anathema to any true democracy we may have left in this country.

    In short, the Koch's are to democracy, what Gitmo is to democracy.

    But of course, former Nazi stooge and currency manipulator George Soros represents the BEST of democracy.

  • Hyperion||

    Over at FluffPost, all you have to do is mention the words Koch Brothers and you will get 10,000 posts exactly like that.

    I swear that all the talking point creators would have to do is say that cats are responsible for all of the peoples problems and every single prog would, without one further thought, start railing against cats.

  • Duke||

    I swear that all the talking point creators would have to do is say that cats are responsible for all of the peoples problems and every single prog would, without one further thought, start railing against cats.

    I am utterly convinced of that now. I wish Anonymous or some other hacker would write a spoof article saying the Kochs were really great people, so I could sit back and watch all the talking derps do an about-face and start praising them.

  • Hyperion||

    They would do it and not even have the slightest realization of the irony.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    HEY! CHARLES KOCH! YOU WANT $20 BILLION? COME SIGN THIS PAPER!!!!

  • Scarecrow Repair||

    $20 billion? you can't handle 20 billion anything, let alone koch dollars.

  • Sudden||

    Progressives think so little about the actual thinking capacity of every day people that they think money can actually buy elections. They think people are lemmings that are easily persuaded by mere Pavlovian repetition.

    Then again, I suppose as an unconscious projection, that worldview does make a great deal of intuitive sense to them.

  • Duke||

    I don't think dynamite could force me to understand the thinking of Progressives. They're entire motto is do more of the same shit that isn't working.

  • Pro Libertate||

    I'm just thrilled to see wealthy people with some libertarian tendencies. Not only that, they also support science and other goods things.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    To the tune of $700 million. They also donate to a magazine I like, and a PBS show I watch from time to time.

    Pure Evil.

  • Pro Libertate||

    That must just torque the left to no end, that the Kochs are major contributors to NOVA.

  • Austrian Anarchy||

    Oddly, whenever I tell folks that I don't want government money going to PBS, they claim I don't want it to exist. I must be more confident in the programming than they are.

  • Pro Libertate||

    The direct funding is only around 15% or thereabouts. They could ratchet up the fundraising or run a few more of those commercials they run between shows that everyone acts like aren't commercials to make that up.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    According to their foundation website, they've donated nearly $1 billion over the years towards cancer research alone.

    Of course Daily Kos is not convinced

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Why did you have to do that? Those comments were the worst thing I've ever seen.

  • Duke||

    You mean like this one?:

    Scary Kochs... (6+ / 0-)
    I have long felt that the brothers Koch are the most dangerous men in the entire United States...more dangerous than the drug cartels,terrorists,organized crime etc..It is high time that sunlight is being shone on them and their vast network of secrecy.It would be a service to this country if the media confronted and exposed them with the courage that Rachel Maddow has.

  • Duke||

    Or like this?

    Exactly. This is what they are doing when they donate to NPR and PBS.

    "Brilliant, but devious", is exactly what the Kochs do.

    It boggles my mind thatt the kind of money the Koch brothers have can buy an election, a state, a Senate or a House majority. It could buy a Presidency.

    Once you think about it, it's as scary as hell.

  • Austrian Anarchy||

    So they are trying to blame the Obama regime on the Koch brothers? Color me skeptical.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    What a dick! (0+ / 0-)
    Himself a survivor of cancer and he wants to see millions dying of cancer. Is he the anti-Christ? Looks like he is!
    Both of the Koch bros. should have been strangled in their cribs.

    Oh and Rachel Maddow knowingly lied about the Koch Brothers in at least one segment

  • Sudden||

    I like this one:

    How much of that money came from daddy?

    What did they do to earn it, except to be the children of someone else?
    Where is the inheritance tax?

    These people are fucking simpletons. Yes, Fred Koch did leave them a business that I believe was valued in the neighborhood of $100 million at the time. They've since turned that into a ridiculously more successful business than it originally was. And of course at the time of that inheritance there was an estate tax too.

  • sasob||

    These people are fucking simpletons.

    Yes, they are - but they are also fucking dogs in a manger.

  • mr simple||

    they are also fucking dogs in a manger.

    They should leave those dogs alone!

  • Sevo||

    ..."with the courage that Rachel Maddow has."

    Uh, WHAT courage? Does the idjit think they're going to make scary faces at her?

  • ||

    PBS

    FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUuuuuuuuuuu.....

    ...

    Hate the Kochs now.

  • SlV||

    One of 'em just bought the Smithsonian its first T-Rex.

  • Sudden||

    THEY'RE JUST USING THE SMITHSONIAN TO STORE IT UNTIL THEY CAN TURN IT INTO OIL!1!1!1!!

  • SlV||

  • ||

    Ironic that T-Rex fought for global cooling by killing methane farting herbivores.

  • SlV||

    "Dinopogenic climate change" or "Sauro pogenic climate change"?

  • GILMORE||

    SOON THEY WILL HAVE THE NYC BALLET UNDER THEIR CONTROL AND THEIR PLANS FOR WORLD DOMINATION WILL BE NEARLY COMPLETE

  • Robert||

    A game of Illuminati could actually go like that. Which is why it's supposedly satire.

    Choke Bros. attack to control Ballet Dancers w power xferred from Social Networks + 8 MB.

  • SlV||

    Obviously to scare the children into PTSD. Poor kids enjoying the vegan diet dinosaur fossils are going to be really traumatized when they see a T-Rex. At least the field and AMNH have hefty admission fees to keep those poor kids away from the terrifying horror of Tyrannosaurus Rex.

  • 1955||

    AMNH is suggested donation, you can get in and see the dino bones for a penny. Kochs are also big supporters there too they have a wing named after them,

  • Hyperion||

    It's a libertarian T-Rex, it's going to eat the childins!

    Do they have it on display yet? My daughter is going to bring the grandkids out this weekend and her step-son love dinosaurs. I was thinking about taking them down to DC.

  • Pro Libertate||

    That's absurd, because the Kochs are righting kooks, and, therefore Creationists.

    Right?

  • Pro Libertate||

    Rightwing you stupid iPad.

  • Austrian Anarchy||

    I don't think Steve jobs every gave $35M to anybody. Betcha that is his ghost in that machine just being bitchy.

  • Pro Libertate||

    There's got to be a better way of posting via this contraption.

  • sasob||

    Lol. Good one, AA.

  • Brandybuck||

    It's the leftwingers who are Creationists, because they believe in Intelligent Design. If there is a social problem, some intelligence in government must of designed it. If there is a social good, some intelligence in government must have designed it. There is nothing in the social sphere that has not been designed by Top Men in D.C.

    Think about it. That's their world view. Rightwing creationists are harmless goofballs compared to the creationists on the left.

  • ||

    "...as the Kochs and their failed to get their man Earl Ravenal the L.P. nomination for 1984,..."

    "...supporting and seminars on things like Austrian and the possibilities of anarchism,..."

    Herrgottnochmal! War on words?

  • Robert||

    You didn't think HyR could afford the full version, did you? They knew we'd understand "infamous Guapo" well enuf.

  • Sudden||

    On a side note: mad props to Doherty for being the definitive source on all matters of libertarian and anarchist lore. You are The Silmarillion of the libertarian worldview.

    You are on the short list to be the curator of my PresidentialEnlightened Despot Museum in a couple of decades.

  • mmmwright||

    The thing half the Times commenters were outraged about was the fact that David lived in a rent controlled apartment at the time. Nothing gets a New York liberal infuriated like a rich guy in a rent controlled apartment!

  • WDATPDIM?!||

    And obviously the solution is MOAR CONTROLS!!!

  • Ayn Random Variation||

    What a lightweight Koch is. Charles Rangel had 4 rent controlled apts in the city!

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07.....d=all&_r=0

  • Skip||

    He deserves them for being black tho.

  • Knarf the Yenrabian||

    How dare someone I dislike take advantage of incentives that I support uncritically!

  • ||

    The funny thing about this is that in 1980 it was kind of hard not to live in a rent controlled apartment in New York City.

    Just as it is now kind of hard to be in the energy and mineral exploitation business in 2014 without using the tax code as it is currently written with respect to energy and mineral exploitation.

    The difference is that the Kochs were perfectly prepared to live in a NYC without rent controls just as they are now prepared to live in a world without the tax code as it is currently written (not just with respect to energy and mineral exploitation).

  • ||

    The whole 'Koch bros are evil' meme is laughable to me.

    I have twice shut down proggies who brought up the Kochs by asking "The Kochs? Really? How stupid do you think I am?"

  • Duke||

    It really goes to show you that propaganda really does work on most people. It's like the progs are participating in the Milgram experiment and don't even realize it.

  • Robert||

    It's within the past yr. that Dave Emory in "For the Record" finally got around to implicating people I've actually known, like David Koch. I keep listening in the hope that the "anti-fascist" will finger me as having a key role in some conspiracy.

  • Robert||

    What's so funny is that 30+ yrs. ago it was libertarian commenters who originated the term "Kochtopus". Nobody much remembers "Craniac", though.

  • From the Tundra||

    Aaaaagh! Just drop the fucking puck already!

  • GILMORE||

    (sigh)

    We agree Brian = you wrote a great book, and the NYT are dicks for not even calling you.

    NOW - BRING ON THE TORRENT OF NYT READER INSIGHT AND WIT =


    Lew Fournier
    Kitchener, Ontario Yesterday
    Here is the Koch version of libertarianism: They have the right to pollute the air; you have the right not to breathe.

    DeathbyInches
    Arkansas Yesterday
    We're constantly being warned about all the other addicts bringing this country down but very few are worried about the money addicts who are the most dangerous of all addicts on earth.

    The Oligarchs & that is the correct name for the Kochs, Adelsons & hundreds of other 1%ers out who make Wonder Bread & own Home Depot plus all energy companies who are fracking us into the earthquake capital of the world & sending exploding oil tankers thru our cities. They are extremist capitalists so addicted to profits they'll happily kill us all

    magicisnotreal
    earth 19 hours ago
    More and more the wealthy Conservatives/Libertarians of America resemble the communists of the early 20th century the rhetoric and ideals are different but the tactics and manipulations are the same.
    So I ask you all, Were the ideals of the Communists bad or was it what they did to achieve them that made them bad?

  • Sudden||

    More and more the wealthy Conservatives/Libertarians of America resemble the communists of the early 20th century the rhetoric and ideals are different but the tactics and manipulations are the same

    I seem to have missed the story about a band of libertarian Bolsheviks storming the White House, murdering the first family, declaring martial law, and seizing the property of everyone in the name of the State.

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    Watch out! Libertarians are going to take over the country and THEN LEAVE YOU ALONE!!!

  • Injun, as in from India||

    LOL.

  • MJGreen||

    And you're ignoring the libertarian anarchists detonating bombs on crowded city streets.

  • Hyperion||

    They are extremist capitalists so addicted to profits they'll happily kill us all

    Wouldn't that like, sort of lower their profits a little?

  • Duke||

    No, Hyperion. With more dead bodies, THEY COULD MONOPOLIZE THE CASKET MARKET!!!11

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    They don't understand what wealth is, let alone how it is created, so why would they not find that prediction plausible?

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    You mean the Koch's don't understand wealth since they just fell into it.

    Buffett or Gates do - OTOH. They earned it.

  • Humberto Brenes||

    Gates

    What a strange choice, it's well know, and even Gates will tell you that he got his starter money from family members, and it is also known that he went dumpster diving for the basic compiler, that was someone else's work and belonged to them, which he later sold.

    I can't see any way to make reality comport with your assertion, it would take someone with a total ignorance of history to think what you said is true.

  • Michael||

    "You mean the Koch's don't understand wealth since they just fell into it."

    Oh, good. I was worried that you might not amble on in here to drool all over the thread.

    I guess all it takes is to "fall into money" because after that THE BUSINESS JUST RUNS ITSELF.

    Don't you have some window blind drawstrings to entangle yourself in?

  • Knarf the Yenrabian||

    Of course not. After they kill everyone but themselves, the extreme capitalists would just be able to take even more of the Great Fixed Pie of Wealth.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    HEY! CHARLES KOCH! YOU WANT $20 BILLION? COME SIGN THIS PAPER!!!!

  • Knarf the Yenrabian||

    That may be the first time that a socialist has accused a libertarian of behaving like a communist.

  • MJGreen||

    The Oligarchs & that is the correct name for the Kochs, Adelsons & hundreds of other 1%ers out who make Wonder Bread & own Home Depot plus all energy companies who are fracking us into the earthquake capital of the world & sending exploding oil tankers thru our cities.

    This is the best sentence I've read in a long time.

  • Hyperion||

    who are fracking us into the earthquake capital of the world & sending exploding oil tankers thru our cities

    That part of it is especially derptastic.

  • Pro Libertate||

    That's all cities, then? Are they positing some sort of flying oil tankers for noncoastal locales?

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Do you ever get tired of being the most ignorant bastard to ever walk?

  • ||

    Is it Pro's fault that some leftist d-bag doesn't know what an oil truck is?

    Who the hell calls then tankers?

  • Robert||

    Seismic Agitators! Bermuda Triangle! Irish Republican Navy (one of mine - a cutaway view of a boat bomb on a ship with a shamrock prow)!

  • KWebb||

    The same guy hangs out at one of my local paper's blogs. He posts fantasies about murdering conservatives.

    If you ever hear about a mass murder in Ft. Smith, Arkansas, he did it.

  • Juice||

    Ft. Smith, Arkansas

    Yikes. If he hates conservatives he needs to think about moving.

  • Ken Shultz||

    "[David Koch as L.P. vice presidential candidate] backed the full legalization of abortion and the repeal of laws that criminalized drug use, prostitution and homosexuality. He attacked campaign donation limits and assailed the Republican star Ronald Reagan as a hypocrite who represented “no change whatsoever from Jimmy Carter and the Democrats."

    They're assailing the Kochs, again, but they're really trying to make Tea Party types look like suckers for supposedly following the Koch brothers--without understanding what they're really about.

    I'd be tempted to think they were trying to smear libertarians by way of association with the Koch Brothers, but "libertarian" is just another smear term here. In progressive parlance the terms "libertarian" and "stupid redneck" are interchangeable.

    If they wanted to drive right leaning voters into the arms of people like Rand Paul, they could hardly do a better job. Partisans strive to become the caricatures their opponents make them out to be, and if the NYT keeps denouncing the Republican base as a bunch of stupid libertarians, eventually that's what they'll start to become.

    Run, Rand, run.

  • sarcasmic||

    Principals trump principles.

    By portraying libertarians as childish oafs, their arguments can be ignored by adults who act as the principals around these principled simple minds.

  • Ken Shultz||

    It certainly suggests that we've infiltrated the mainstream.

    "First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."

    ----Mahatma Gandhi

    So, according to Gandhi, if we're about halfway between being laughed at and them fighting us, then we're almost halfway there.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Ken, we are putting together a Reason SoCal get together. If you're interested, email Jesse.

  • Robert||

    Hey, it sells papers. NYT's not interested in winning, just keeping the game going.

  • WDATPDIM?!||

    The New York Times Thinks You Should Care, Isn't Sure Why

    It's click bait.

  • Notorious G.K.C.||

    They got the assignment, they researched it, the editor was disappointed they didn't get a smoking gun memo from the archives in Va saying the Kochs were trying to blow up the world, but the reporter had put so much work into it and the editor had signed off on the story, he (are there female NYT editors anymore?) didn't want to cancel a story and make himself look bad and unproductive.

    Plus, Kochs!

  • Grand Moff Serious Man||

    The ultimate Daily Kos comment:

    They Have to Die (6+ / 0-)
    The Koch brothers live for power. After the first few $billion, the need for more power is what drives the desire for money. They have been pursuing (and getting) power their whole long lives. As noted they minted their own gold coins to run to replace Carter in the White House, because Reagan and Bush were too liberal for them. The 35 years since have been much more fruitful - and much more gold plated.

    They are not going to quit. They will have to die. Though they might have another couple dozen years left in them. Too soon isn't quick enough.

    Imagine their reaction if someone on a right-wing blog said that about Obama or some other idol of theirs.

  • WDATPDIM?!||

    Meanwhile, they're completely blind to how "the need for more power is what drives the desire for," um, power. The power accumulated in Washington is invisible to them.

  • Duke||

    The Koch brothers live for power. After the first few $billion, the need for more power is what drives the desire for money.

    Unlike Oprah (D)

    Unlike Bill Gates (D)

    Unlike Warren Buffett (D)

    Unlike Steven Spielberg (D)

    and so on...

  • Scarecrow Repair||

    Soros

    Bloomberg

  • Knarf the Yenrabian||

    because Reagan and Bush were too liberal for them

    So the classical liberals find conservatives too liberal, while conservatives call classical liberals libertines and liberals complain about democracy taking a back seat to liberty. Got it.

  • Ayn Random Variation||

    I love how the call for them to die has 6+ votes vs 0- votes.
    Progs really do want to kill people they disagree politically with. Or rather, being the pussies they are, they want the Gov't to do it for them.

  • ||

    because Reagan and Bush were too liberal for them.

    yeah so liberal that they would not legalize pot and gay marriage like those nazi Kochs would.

  • RishJoMo||

    Sometimes man you jsut have to roll with it.

    www.YourAnon.tk

  • ||

    Would y'all quit with the damn Daily Kos comments, please? It is going to give me brain damage.

  • ||

    Let's all enjoy some fine Gawk. We Are Lucky

    A broad issue that's arisen as an offshoot of the whole Jill Abramson-getting-fired discussion: Do successful people (in the media and elsewhere) get there mainly by luck, or by skill/ virtue/ drive/ other endearing quality? It is luck, of course. Never forget that it is mostly luck.

    If your success is due to luck, and of course it is, you have no basis for complaint when your money gets stolen by the government. You racist teabagging child molester.

    Conversely, your lack of success is not due to your poor choices, it's bad luck. How could anyone succeed?


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    Trying to keep this in the forefront of my mind while searching for a job in academia is all that maintains my sanity. I found out that one of the desirable jobs I applied for and ultimately didn't get attracted more than 500 applicants. It's both terrifying and sort of liberating to realize that you have a 0.2% chance of landing a job like that, and with odds that narrow, it's not particularly sensible to take rejection as a referendum on your merits.
  • Knarf the Yenrabian||

    I found out that one of the desirable jobs I applied for and ultimately didn't get attracted more than 500 applicants. It's both terrifying and sort of liberating to realize that you have a 0.2% chance of landing a job like that, and with odds that narrow, it's not particularly sensible to take rejection as a referendum on your merits.

    I hope to God that was an economics position.

  • John C. Randolph||

    I volunteered on that campaign, and I'm very thankful to Mr. Koch for footing the bill to get the Libertarian message out to so many people. I got to see Ed Clark give a speech at a local b'nai b'rith meeting. Talk about a one-issue crowd. They loved him until someone asked about foreign aid to Israel..

    -jcr

  • Sevo||

    I'll bet he didn't bother to lie to them.

  • John C. Randolph||

    Got it on the first guess.

    -jcr

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Did he stiff you?

  • Scarecrow Repair||

    Tried, but you blocked him.

  • antisocial-ist||

    Well, isn't it obvious how much power and influence they've bought. Just look at our President, our Senate, our Supreme Court. Libertarian Koch-puppets one and all. Wait, shit nevermind.
    But look at the rethuglicans. They're so damn libertarian they want the government out of everything, the bedroom, the boardroom, other countries. No wait, damnit this is hard how do these progs derp all day like this.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Well, the Kochs are not evil, that is stupid. They do donate to the ACLU and for that I am thankful.

    My only criticism is that they larked into their inheritance on their father's death where Soros, Buffett, Gates, Brin and so many rich liberals earned theirs properly.

  • Duke||

    Soros stole his money from the Jews and then gave it to Hitler.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Soros earned his, eh?

  • Humberto Brenes||

    My only criticism is that they larked into their inheritance on their father's death

    So you're jealous.

    How sad.

  • Vulgar Madman||

    Soros made his fortune by sucking nazi dick.
    No wonder he's your hero.

  • John C. Randolph||

    They inherited a hell of a lot less than they've earned.

    -jcr

  • politicsbyothermeans||

    "... so many rich liberals earned theirs properly."

    On the backs of minorities?

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    HEY! CHARLES KOCH! YOU WANT $20 BILLION? COME SIGN THIS PAPER!!!!

  • Duke||

    "I fancied myself as some kind of god ...If truth be known, I carried some rather potent messianic fantasies with me from childhood, which I felt I had to control, otherwise they might get me in trouble."

    -- George Soro

  • Ken Shultz||

    I remember reading that...I believe it was in the "Alchemy of Finance".

    As I read it, he was being self-deprecating.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    What are you even talking about? Are you on a coke bender again?

  • Scarecrow Repair||

    Amateur drugs for him. Probably suppositories.

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    I like to mix coke and X together.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Doubtful. You would be far more pleasant.

  • Juice||

    That sounds like a terrible combo. One turns you all lovey-dovey and the other turns you into an asshole.

  • Warren's Strapon||

    I applied for and ultimately didn't get attracted more than 500 applicants. It's both terrifying and sort of liberating to realize that you have a 0.2% chance of landing a job like that, and with odds that narrow, it's not particularly sensible to take rejection as a referendum on your merits.

    No, just your decision-making skills.

  • Ken Shultz||

    How much misery in this country is simply because of class envy and lazy losers refusing to take responsibility for their own lives?

    Show me a pathetic failure. Show me someone who was hired to work for a company--and never rose above the position he or she was hired into. Show me someone with a shitty work ethic. Show me someone who resents his coworkers for being productive and ambitious.

    ...and I'll show you someone who hates the Koch brothers.

  • widget||

    I wonder how many people think the Kochs are Jewish. They are Roman Catholics like Chris Mathews, Steven Colbert, and John Fucking Kennedy.

    I have a very German last name. This would be commonly understood to be a German name east of the Mississippi. Take a step over the brook and well wishers offer me a shalom or a merry Hanuka.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Weird. Me too. I get shit in the mail from the Anti-Defamation League all the time. They need a new system.

    I am 1/32 German, and most of the rest is Scandinavian. At last count, there were around ten (10) Norwegian Jews.

  • widget||

    I have the added curiosity of being adopted at birth. A week later according the documents my mom kept, to be specific.

    The 'race is culture' meme is total hoot to me. I never once looked the mirror and thought I was Chinese.

  • ||

    I have a very German last name (my real name that is). In fact it is the same as one of the conspirators who tried top kill Hitler.

    I'm rather proud of that fact.

  • Professor Woland||

    When was the last time an agent of the Koch brothers murdered funeral attendees? How many people who have never hurt anyone are rotting in prison because of the Koch brothers? Who did the thugs who beat Kelly Thomas to death work for? Do the Koch brothers spy on people's phone calls and internet activity? Was it the Kochs' grandfather who decreed that Japanese Americans were supposed to be interned? That African Americans couldn't eat at lunch counters? As far as the environment goes, are the Kochs responsible for the woeful mismanagement of forests and water sheds in the West? I'm sure I would find plenty to disagree with in the Kochs' version of libertarianism, but people who think that the Kochs are evil and that the state can ever be anything other than evil are even more irrational than young Earth creationists or vaccines-cause-autism loonies or Alex Jones listeners. To respect the state is to hate humanity.

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