Snowden Took Job to Gather NSA Evidence, Supreme Court Tightens Work Discrimination Rules, Berlusconi Convicted: P.M. Links

  • Whatever. Everybody's moved on to cronuts.Credit: HostessEdward Snowden told the South China Morning Post that he specifically took the job at Booz Allen Hamilton in order to track down evidence of the National Security Agency’s secret surveillance program. President Barack Obama said today the administration is pursuing the “appropriate legal channels” to get Snowden back. “Appropriate legal channels” is code for “release the drones,” isn’t it?
  • Damon Root noted earlier the Supreme Court pushed an affirmative action in education case back to lower courts for more scrutiny. But they did rule on a workplace discrimination case, requiring that a claim that involves an employee’s supervisor must show that said supervisor had actual control over the employee’s hiring or firing.  
  • The Supreme Court also ruled that generic drug manufacturers cannot be held liable for injuries caused by their products, given that they’re following Food and Drug Administration’s rules that require the content and labeling to mimic the brand-name manufacturer.
  • Italy’s former Premier Silvio Berlusconi has been convicted of sex with an underage prostitute. He was sentenced to seven years of prison and is further barred from holding public office, but he still has appeals ahead.
  • Twinkies will be back on the shelves on July 15. They’re marketing it as “The sweetest comeback in the history of ever.” We’ll just have to see.
  • The Colorado Civil Rights Division has ruled that an elementary school discriminated by blocking a transgendered girl, age 6, from using the girls’ bathroom.

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  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Twinkies will be back on the shelves on July 15.

    Bread and circuses. Well done, Obama.

  • Matrix||

    no h/t, again, for me!

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    It was implied.

  • Brett L||

    They just recycle the best of the commentors MLs.

  • Hyperion||

    H&R must be rationing the hat tips. I should have gotten one a few days ago... I can't remember the article now, but I didn't get one either. Bastards.

  • SweatingGin||

    That said, I'm not really sure I want SweatingGin posted all over the main page, but hey.

  • A Serious Man||

    Twinkies will be back on the shelves on July 15. They’re marketing it as “The sweetest comeback in the history of ever.” We’ll just have to see.

    Our long national nightmare is over!

  • Tim||

    July 15: " TWINKIES ARE BACK!!"
    July 16: " THESE THINGS TASTE LIKE SHIT"

  • A Serious Man||

    Zingers are the best Hostess product.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    WRONG. (Which ones are Zingers again?)

  • Hyperion||

    Just proves that FOE smoked more weed than I did during the 70s. I remember what zingers are...

  • C. Anacreon||

    Actually, Zingers were originally from Dolly Madison. I think that company got swallowed up, so to speak, by Hostess sometime long after my childhood.

    Remember, they had Peanuts characters on Dolly Madison products, and different ones on the different kinds of Zingers. I think Charlie Brown was the chocolate ones (no, not Franklin) and Linus was on top of the Raspberry Zingers?

  • Hash Brown||

    They used to run commercials during the Charlie Brown specials on tv. The Halloween one had a kid in a witch mask disappearing through a wall with a shopping cart. Freaked me out.

  • A Serious Man||

    Basically Twinkies only with icing on the top and not as soft and mushy.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Sounds positively hideous. Ho Hos should be considered the flagship product.

  • Tim||

    Go The Fuck To Sleep

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIBqd1kxoQk
    NSFW

  • Jayburd||

    frozen dingdongs

  • Matrix||

  • Hyperion||

    Isn't that an action FPS? I took a quick glance at it, but it didn't look like there were any RPG elements, so probably not for me...

  • Matrix||

    Third-person.

    Not real RPG elements. It's very linear. I mean, you can upgrade some characteristics and weapons.

    Very compelling story, though. And the voice acting, for the most part, is fantastic, especially from the main characters.

  • C. Anacreon||

    That might be her face but it is definitely not her rack.

  • Matrix||

    what rack?

  • Not an Economist||

    From what I've read, Naughty Dog based Ellie off the actress Ashley Johnson and made a few changes. The actresses do look similar. Unfortunately the changes made the character look like Ms. Page.

  • Matrix||

  • ||

    She looks gross anyway

  • playa manhattan||

    In the video, yes. The photo was very misleading.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    That's the point of Facebook photography.

  • Matrix||

  • Rich||

    Don't worry, Matrix. It's easily treated with homeopathy.

  • Brett L||

    I don't know if it causes cancer, but mere mention of it drives me to violent rage.

  • some guy||

    This isn't the first and it won't be last time that third-hand smoke has come up.

  • Zeb||

    The sun damages human cells. Exercise damages human cells. Eating damages human cells.

  • Rhywun||

    It is difficult to say when it is safe to enter a place where a smoker has formerly lived

    OMFG... So that makes, what, 90% of American housing stock "unsafe"?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    ...an elementary school discriminated by blocking a transgendered girl, age 6, from using the girls’ bathroom.

    The stand at the restroom door. Call in the National Guard.

  • Rights-Minimalist Autocrat||

    I'm highly sympathetic to the struggle and confusion that transgendered people must go through, but I find it hard to believe that a 6 year old has exited that struggle and found her identity. "I want to be a girl" is about as meaningful from a 6 year old as "I want to be a fireman" is.

  • Matrix||

    If that kid wants to be a fireman, then we better make it happen PRONTO! Throw some gear on and send him into a burning house to put out a fire and drag people trapped inside to safety. Nevermind he can't physically handle the job. It's his feelings that matter most!

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    I don't pretend to know psychology of the transgendered mind, but at six years old, do kids even really need to be separated by gender at potty time?

  • ||

    Yes. Otherwise their sweet little minds will be corrupted and they will be turned into sex fiends.

    Maybe that's what happened to your mom?

  • Hyperion||

    The question that pops into my mind first, is does a 6 year old even need to understand what the term transgender means?

    I guess I must just be an old fashioned unenlightened geezer or something.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Imagine growing up you, but in a different body, the wrong sex. What age would you recognize the problem? Myself, I have no idea.

  • AlmightyJB||

    I think at I identified as Superman.

  • AlmightyJB||

    at 6

  • AlmightyJB||

    If I had a chicks body, I would work out every day and look at myself naked in the mirror all the time

  • PapayaSF||

    As they say, the reason men don't have breasts is that if they did, they would just play with them all the time and nothing would get done.

  • lap83||

    I can't imagine knowing what it's like to have parts I've never had. To me, transgendered feelings border on religion.

  • Zeb||

    Well 6 year olds do generally fall into fairly typical gendered behaviors. Girls play house and boys play war, that sort of thing. Not universal, but it's not as if gender is not meaningful to 6 year old children. But "transgendered" doesn't seem like a necessary concept at that point. Just let him be a boy who likes girly stuff for a while and see how it all works out.

  • Hyperion||

    When I was 6 years old, being a boy playing with dolls and acting like a girl would have gotten you teased incessantly or even roughed up a little every day. Not saying that is right, just the way it was.

  • Rights-Minimalist Autocrat||

    I'd imagine claiming to actually be a girl and wanting to use the girls' restroom would be even worse.

  • Andrew S.||

    There is brain scan evidence that shows that the brains of transgendered individuals are similar to those of the opposite gender.

    (But I'm not sure if that's the case here at all, and I don't know about that kind of psychology in a 6 year old)

  • Red Rocks Rockin||

    I find it hard to believe that a 6 year old has exited that struggle and found her identity.

    Look up the background of the parents and their kids. All of the kids have some sort of issue, whether it's autism, transgenderism, or one of them having mental issues from being dropped on their head at four months old(seriously).

    The parents are basically the equivalent of SWPL white trash--treating their kids like social experiments and projecting their dysfunctional emotional issues onto innocent kids.

  • Hyperion||

    Maybe the parents think that they will get attention, special treatment, or even money out of it. Pretty sick, from the way it sounds.

  • Red Rocks Rockin||

    Maybe the parents think that they will get attention, special treatment, or even money out of it.

    Mission accomplished, apparently.

  • Rights-Minimalist Autocrat||

    Oh, I had little doubt it was far-left activist parents behind it.

  • Rhywun||

    I'm highly sympathetic to the struggle and confusion that transgendered people must go through

    Me too. I had a male college roommate once who was a female when I saw her a couple years later. We weren't close or anything but it got me thinking. And being gay myself, I had my own issues to deal with but surely nothing on the level of this kid - regardless of how much the parents may or may not have fucked him up. However I am dubious that this accomodation is the "right" way "forward".

  • Rights-Minimalist Autocrat||

    For sure. I had a high school classmate named Justin who is Carla now. The general assumption I make is that gay is probably really confusing, and transsexual is probably really really confusing. Transitioning from boy to man was awkward enough while straight, and I knew I wanted my penis to go into the socially acceptable orifice.

    I pretty much meant what I said literally. I can easily imagine this being a geek kid who just doesn't like roughhousing with the boys and would rather do things like read or help mom cook. And so one day he says, "I want to be a girl." And it's possible that the kid really is transsexual, or maybe is gay, but I can't believe he knows it at 6. I mean, for fucks sake, can a 6 year old even understand the difference between trans and gay? Or a heterosexual transvestite?

    Some kids who say they want to be firemen actually become firemen. But not most.

    I wish I'd thought of this when I was 6. I could have used the girls' locker room throughout high school. Probably wouldn't have made up for getting my ass kicked every other day, though.

  • playa manhattan||

    "compartmentalizing a child as a boy or girl solely based on their visible anatomy is a simplistic approach to a difficult and complex issue, the report said"

    How about just labeling the bathrooms "penis" and "vagina", then?

  • Matrix||

    male and female

    Those are based off of biology, not cultural indicators.

  • BigT||

    Does (s)he stand when (s)he pees? That's all that matters.

  • Rich||

    Everybody sits in Sweden, and soon here.

  • Zeb||

    You can pry my dick from my cold dead hands, commie!

  • Rich||

    Hey, you can still hold it while you sit, fascist!

  • Jayburd||

    It's more like a tuck when u sit. And why do I keep seeing footprints on public toilet seats?

  • Brett L||

    And why do I keep seeing footprints on public toilet seats?

    Lots of new Asian immigrants?

  • Matrix||

    Girl Scouts facing declining memberships and fiscal woes
    They're so broke, they've resorted to using cardboard boxes as uniforms!

  • Tim||

    Roll them in with Boy Scouts, change the title to just "scouts" and offer merit badges for condom unrolling and birth control.

  • ||

    We already have that. It's called the Peace Corps.

  • Andrew S.||

    Without the patch joke, that's the way scouting is in most of the world. No separate gender-based scouting.

  • Pro Libertate||

    SELL MORE COOKIES.

  • Hyperion||

    Put more heroin in the thin mints, dummies!

  • Pro Libertate||

    I like the "more."

  • A Serious Man||

    The Colorado Civil Rights Division has ruled that an elementary school discriminated by blocking a transgendered girl, age 6, from using the girls’ bathroom.

    What the fuckity fuck? How is a 6 year old even capable of making that kind of decision?

  • playa manhattan||

    He/She or whatever is not. The parents are assholes.

  • AlmightyJB||

    One can only hope that kid grows up to be Clint Eastwood.

  • Rich||

    Obama said today the administration is pursuing the “appropriate legal channels” to get Snowden back.

    "Nothing is off the table; and doing nothing is not an option."

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Only legal actions.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Edward Snowden told the South China Morning Post that he specifically took the job at Booz Allen Hamilton in order to track down evidence of the National Security Agency’s secret surveillance program.

    Uh-oh.

  • Rich||

    "We never said it was a perfect background check system!"

  • Pro Libertate||

    Help the bombardier!

  • TANSTaaFL||

    The appropriate response to this is, "So?"

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    It's one thing to sign a contract and stumbling on illegal activity. It's another to sign a contract with the intent to break it. I have sympathy for him either way, and appreciate what he's done, but it seems he was fraudulent in his agreement.

    He shouldn't have admitted this. It's yet another distraction from what he was trying to accomplish.

  • Pro Libertate||

    I can't figure if this guy is all pure and light or if he's at least part scum. We'll likely never know for sure.

  • ||

    Like everyone he's probably partially scum. But that doesn't change the value of the message. In any case the government will almost certainly continue to release little tidbits of information about his scumminess. This is a delicate affair - they need stuff that will piss off most of the population, but is not so ham-handed as to look like an obvious ploy for a hate session. Hence all the "look he's thinking about going to CUBA! or RUSSIA!!!" shit.

    My earlier prediction was that they'd get the (hot poledancing) girlfriend to say he was abusive or something. But now I am leaning towards something dangerously ideological that will alienate most of the country and tag him as a looney tune.

    I therefore suspect they'll out him as a libertarian.

  • Pro Libertate||

    Not the nuclear option! [Recoils in horror.]

  • Pro Libertate||

    I'm not sure it matters that much, anyway, and the government is hardly trustworthy is stuff like this.

  • Hyperion||

    It's really ignorant for anyone to believe that Snowden being in Russia, or even staying indefinitely in Russia is because he's some type of anti-American traitor.

    He has no other choice, except to be captured and tortured by the US, or killed by the US.

    It's easy to say, he should do this, or that. But put yourself in his position, then it's not so easy.

  • Pro Libertate||

    I suppose the best course of action would've been to stick it out here and face the heat, but with all of the "national security" claims and exemptions to, well, the Constitution, not sure he'd have gotten anywhere near the bully pulpit that most defendants get. The mistreatment of previous whistleblowers contributed to his flight, too, I'm sure.

  • Hash Brown||

    This bounty hunter is my kind of scum.

  • Gordilocks||

    +1 carbonite freezer

  • Rrabbit||

    My understanding is that we was working for the NSA (in a different position) before that.

  • Xenocles||

    Some guy was on Diane Rehm this morning absolutely indignant that Snowden broke his word with respect to the non-disclosure agreement. I didn't hear a word about the oath everyone important in government takes to support the Constitution, which one would think takes precedence.

  • Pro Libertate||

    We should hunt down all of the people who swore to uphold the Constitution and failed to. And try them for, I dunno, treason?

  • Xenocles||

    I suppose that was one of the many problems with the Constitution. The oath has no teeth.

  • Pro Libertate||

    The Censor would correct that with the Rod of Correction. And some tar and feathers in more mild cases.

  • ||

    The Censor would correct that with the Rod of Correction

    Go on...

  • Pro Libertate||

    Think more mace with spikes than anything euphemistic.

  • The Immaculate Trouser||

    H&R: After Dark

  • Pro Libertate||

    I've long advocated the merger of Reason and Playboy into one magazine.

  • ||

    That idea became less appealing after several staffing changes.

  • Jayburd||

    Link to the pole dancing girlfriend please?

  • TANSTaaFL||

    If I set out to find corruption and I find it, document it and expose it does the fact that it was my goal make it less important than if I had stumbled upon it?

    Nope, Nope and Nope.

  • ||

    Exactly right. Just the next step in the long line of "Hey, look over there!" until enough time (meaning a couple of days) passes so that the public switches its attention over to training camp, or Twinkies, or starlets on beaches.

  • NeonCat||

    Twinkies on starlets on beaches

  • ||

    There's gotta be a Tumblr for that.

  • NeonCat||

    "She wore an itsy bitsy teeny weeny Twinkie-kini/for the first time today."

  • ||

  • Zombie Jimbo||

    They had to get those big Kardashian butts somehow.

  • Tim||

    Any others? Hmm

  • Brett L||

    I assume that reporters long hisotry of undercover investigative reporting will now go down the memory hole.

  • A Serious Man||

    The 14 most ridiculous things the police bought with asset forfeiture.

    Under civil asset forfeiture, police can seize property suspected of involvement in criminal activity. Unlike criminal asset forfeiture, with civil forfeiture, people don’t have to be convicted—or even charged—with a crime to permanently lose their cars, homes, or cash.
    Even worse, in many cases, police get to keep what they seize through asset forfeiture. As long as cops get to keep what they seize, civil asset forfeiture will keep on spawning scandals.

    Legalized plunder, one of the perks of wearing a badge.

  • Pro Libertate||

    I bet drugs are on the list. Or should be.

  • NeonCat||

    I wondered how Camden Co. GA got so much plunder - I didn't know where it was, discovered it was the first county north of the FL state line on I-95. I guess they just bust whatever seems suspicious/DWB.

  • Matrix||

    to celebrate the return of the Twinkies, I give you
    Twinkie Recipes

  • ||

    In defense of San Francisco's Techies

    Read the comments, and weep:

    The gays and hippies (as mentioned in another comment) did not come to SF to make money. And they did not displace tens of thousands of people by unleashing a wave of legal and illegal evictions. And they enhanced the culture, created culture, made the city a more interesting place.

    I hate to generalize, but I meet tech people every day on my job and there are certain commonalities. The average ones seem to have been here for two months, have ADD, have no curiosity about the culture of their adoptive city, are completely humorless, dismissive of others not of their kind, have their face buried in a device, are poorly read, and demonstrate no political awareness other than a knee-jerk libertarianism bestowed upon them by their corporation.

    The "hipster" tag is just silly. There's nothing hip about a corporate gig or rabid money-seeking. Recently, a Zynga employee talked my ear off about the "artistry" of the "creatives" at her firm. These were mass-produced computer games she was referring to. Puh-leeze! And buying high-priced tickets to Burning Man so you can go wild once a year does not make you hip, it makes you look like a sucker.
  • NeonCat||

    Sounds like San Francisco should have turned itself into a lefty amusement park and kept out those money grubbing taxpayers - unless they were just visiting, of course.

  • Irish||

    That comment can be boiled down to one sentence:

    WHY CAN'T EVERYONE BE A DUMBASS SOCIALIST HIPPY??!?!

    I also like that he claims San Francisco techies are libertarians. I guess that's why Silicon Valley gave so much money to Obama.

  • PapayaSF||

    Yeah, as a San Francisco sort-of-techie, I can only wish that it were true.

  • ||

    These were mass-produced computer games she was referring to. Puh-leeze!

    Is "mass-produced" even a descriptive term when it comes to video games? Are there artisanal ones?

  • ||

  • ||

    Yeah, but indie games are still "mass produced".

  • ||

    Because you can download an unlimited number of exe or apk files?

    I suppose that's technically correct, but unnecessarily pedantic. People use it to mean formulaic and lacking originality more than factory made rather than carved from elephant tusk by an artisan (like our canes were). We know the difference between a paint-by-numbers romance novel and a well crafted original story and we identify that with "mass produced" even though formulaic would probably be more technically accurate.

  • ||

    I know. I was just making fun of him for being a stupid dirty hippy douche.

  • Irish||

    Recently, a Zynga employee talked my ear off about the "artistry" of the "creatives" at her firm. These were mass-produced computer games she was referring to.

    So are literary writers and directors not artists since their products are 'mass produced?'

  • PapayaSF||

    This is funny because Zynga has a well-deserved reputation for ripping off other games.

  • Gordilocks||

    "Puh-leeze! And buying high-priced tickets to Burning Man so you can go wild once a year does not make you hip, it makes you look like a sucker."

    Doherty going to take this shit?

  • Mickey Rat||

    "The average ones seem to have been here for two months, have ADD, have no curiosity about the culture of their adoptive city, are completely humorless, dismissive of others not of their kind, have their face buried in a device, are poorly read, and demonstrate no political awareness other than a knee-jerk libertarianism..."

    THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT I LIKE!...ARRGH!!

  • Rhywun||

    [they] demonstrate no political awareness

    I consider that a feature, not a bug, in anyone I meet.

    [to] make housing more affordable. We can do that in three basic ways: Build more, set aside a greater portion as affordable and protect the existing stock

    Hm, two of these things do no such thing and the third is politically impossible. Problem solved!

  • JMos||

    The real story about the NSA is that it is making all us guys feel like women do all the time.
    "I began to wonder if the reason the NSA activities didn’t upset me more on a visceral level, as opposed to an intellectual one, was that my default assumption of day-to-day experience was that I was being watched. Watched by Big Brother? Not so much. But being watched, observed, surveyed, seen? Yes. Welcome to what it’s like to be a woman, gentlemen."
    http://thenewinquiry.com/blogs.....male-gaze/

  • ||

    Isn't TEH MALE GAZE meant to be applied in media criticism, rather than the Oppression Olympics?

  • Irish||

    Being looked at by people who find you attractive is exactly the same as the government having access to your personal information.

    Exactly the same.

  • JMos||

    No the first one is worse because sexism.

  • Agammamon||

    No, the first is worse because you might be being looked at *by people you don't find attractive*! NOTHING in the world is worse than a woman being approached by a man she considers beneath her.

  • Agammamon||

    Though I suppose, that in the modern world, that *is* the new definition of sexism.

  • Zombie Jimbo||

    And those who believe this almost always think Obama is dreamy, so govt surveillance is OK to them.

  • Fladnag the Yarg||

    What's wrong with being on the bottom?

  • ||

    NSA spys on Americans, women and children hardest hit

  • Matrix||

    You're making a joke about domestic violence and child abuse. You need to be sent to a reeducation center immediately for sensitivity training.

  • MJGreen||

    I'm insecure about various aspects of my body, and I catch women looking at me all the time. Sometimes, it makes me feel uncomfortable. So shut up, lady. That's part of living in society.

  • MJGreen||

    Rather, I should say that's part of being out in public. People get outraged when supposedly private domains are watched without permission.

    If you constantly catch guys peeking into your house and staring at you, then you might have a valid comparison.

  • The Immaculate Trouser||

    Ohmigod, that is SO true. It's like when we were talking about the forced Ukraine famine that killed millions of people or whatever, and I was like "That is SO Becky" -- remember, like when Becky would make herself throw up in the bathroom? We are so totally hip to like, famine and government surveillance or whatever.

    /teenage girl

  • ||

    Totally unconvincing. Needs MOAR "LIKE".

    Like I should talk...

  • Red Rocks Rockin||

    David Simon made the same stupid argument, only his version was, "NOW YOU KNOW HOW BLACK PEOPLE FEEL, YOU EVIL WHITE MIDDLE CLASS OPPRESSORS!"

    It's telling that these people see the NSA story only as a means of social one-upsmanship, rather than the general problem of the growing power of the surveillance state. They wouldn't mind seeing the government put video monitors in their homes as long as they could feel superior to their political opponents.

  • ||

    Wait, we're supposed to pay too much attention to blacks now? I thought we were supposed to ignore them?

    Is there some kind of white privilege listserv I can get on? I need to stay up to date.

  • Mickey Rat||

    Update: If you have ever in your lifetime used the word "n****r" you must resign from your job in abject shame immediately.

  • Irish||

    David Simon made the same stupid argument, only his version was, "NOW YOU KNOW HOW BLACK PEOPLE FEEL, YOU EVIL WHITE MIDDLE CLASS OPPRESSORS!"

    Weird, I don't remember voting to allow the government to spy on black people.

    That's so like me though. I'm always forgetting the oppression I've forced on various ethnic groups.

  • The Immaculate Trouser||

    Which makes sense. Being descended from dirt-poor Irish immigrants who more likely than not either fought for the Union or came after the Civil War, it's easy to see how your ancestors would have inculcated simply staggering levels of privilege and latent racism in you without your knowledge.

  • AuH20||

    Posted by me this morning, ashhole.

    I'm just kidding; you aren't an asshole- you're a douche!

  • Jayburd||

    She needs to quit dressing like a hooker.

  • A Serious Man||

    Research shows that plants possess an innate ability to do math in order to calculate food storage.

    Overnight, when the plant cannot use energy from sunlight to convert carbon dioxide into sugars and starch, it must regulate its starch reserves to ensure they last until dawn.

    Experiments by scientists at the John Innes Centre, Norwich, show that to adjust its starch consumption so precisely, the plant must be performing a mathematical calculation - arithmetic division.

    "They're actually doing maths in a simple, chemical way - that's amazing, it astonished us as scientists to see that," study leader Prof Alison Smith told BBC News.

  • Brett L||

    Research shows that plants possess an innate ability to do math in order to calculate food storage.

    WTF? No more than your dog does integrals to catch a frisbee.

  • Pro Libertate||

    Perhaps he does, Brett, perhaps he does. In fact, perhaps it's the utter slavish devotion of dogs to math that makes them seem of a lower order of intelligence to man.

  • BakedPenguin||

    Ridiculous. My dog could never get past the quadratic equation.

  • robc||

    I think they are using Newton's method, which is why they screw it up so much.

  • Brett L||

    Some roots don't converge quadratically.

  • ||

    I see the horseshit in the news is the same upon my return as when I went on leave.

    I'll see you assholes in another three months. Maybe things will be different by then.

  • Tim||

    Napping at the bottom of Tokyo bay?

  • ||

    We should have Libertopia pretty much built by then. Come back expecting momentous change!

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    Same fake scandals.

    Whitewater!!

  • ||

    I had at least hoped that certain individuals, whom I will not reveal, but whose name is "Episiarch", would have at least come to terms with his budding homosexuality, given the culture of inclusiveness and anti-discrimination that we embrace here.

    Alas, he still appears to be in the closet.

  • ||

    He's equally turned on by women, Warty, and coffee pots. He's not a homosexual, he's pansexual.

  • ||

    He's not a homosexual, he's pansexual.

    Hence the coffee pots I presume.

  • ||

    I was thinking it marked an attraction to ancient goat-gods.

  • SugarFree||

    Pansexual? Don't be absurd. He's a skilletsexual.

  • Pro Libertate||

    He's in the closet with a dude and some thin-crust pizza.

  • Hyperion||

    At least he came out of the closet about the weed smoking! That's a start!

  • SugarFree||

    Washington making it legal helped ignite his passions.

    No wait, legal weed would never increase the amount of people smoking it. I'm sorry, everyone who attacked me last time for expressing this clearly erroneous idea.

  • BakedPenguin||

    The Iron Sheik down on his luck.

  • Matrix||

    SF'd the link

  • BakedPenguin||

    It was the tears in my eyes. Here.

  • SugarFree||

    You honor me with this offering, BakedPenguin.

  • BakedPenguin||

    That was my goal all along, even if it wasn't.

  • rts||

  • Matrix||

    They forgot to mention authorizing drone strikes on American citizens without due process.

  • ||

    They usually forget to mention that, sadly.

  • A Serious Man||

    Acting Labor Secretary invokes FDR to argue for hiking minimum wage.

    Seventy-five years ago today, during one of his fireside chats, President Franklin Roosevelt spoke about the Fair Labor Standards Act, calling it one of "the most far-reaching ... far-sighted program[s] for the benefit of workers ever adopted."

    Roosevelt signed the bill the next day, setting the nation's first federally mandated minimum wage at 25 cents an hour and establishing bedrock labor protections that have kept our middle class strong and workers secure for decades. No longer could employers impose punishing working conditions at what FDR had called "starvation wages." FLSA also included the nation's first major restrictions on child labor and introduced the concept of premium pay for overtime work - if you worked more than the standard 44-hour workweek (later reduced to 40 hours), you were entitled to time-and-one-half pay.

    FDR called out critics of the measure. He urged Americans to ignore the "calamity-howling" of those who "tell you that a wage of $11 a week is going to have a disastrous effect on all American industry."

    Indeed, none of FDR's New Deal wage and price fixing had any detrimental effect on the economy whatsoever nor did it drag the Depression on for 8 years.

  • ||

    I wasn't aware that employers were ever able to impose punishing working conditions or starvation wages on anybody.

    Were people not allowed to quit their jobs back then?

  • Red Rocks Rockin||

    25 cents in 1938 was $4.13 an hour in today's dollars.

    Funny how Harris never addresses that particular bit of math, especially the fact that $4.13 an hour went a hell of a lot farther back then.

  • VG Zaytsev||

    25 cents in 1938 was $4.13 an hour in today's dollars.

    Funny how Harris never addresses that particular bit of math, especially the fact that $4.13 an hour went a hell of a lot farther back then.

    I think that means that the official inflation calculation is off by a couple of hundred percent.

  • VG Zaytsev||

    25 cents in 1938 was $4.13 an hour in today's dollars.

    Funny how Harris never addresses that particular bit of math, especially the fact that $4.13 an hour went a hell of a lot farther back then.

    I think that means that the official inflation calculation is off by a couple of hundred percent.

  • Rasilio||

    setting the nation's first federally mandated minimum wage at 25 cents an hour and establishing bedrock labor protections that have kept our middle class strong and workers secure for decades.

    Can someone please explain to me how a minimum wage helps the middle class at all?

    If you earn double the minimum wage today you barely qualify as middle class as you would come in around the 35th percentile of incomes and I suspect the same was true in 1938.

    To the extent that a minimum wage could benefit anyone it would be the poor, not the middle class

  • Agammamon||

    Minimum wage doesn't benefit anyone except maaayyyybeeee those who are earning *just* below the MW.

    Otherwise if you're below that cut-off you lose your job and if you're above it either it doesn't affect you or its money that could have been used for your raise or to hire a someone to do part of your job - either way you lose.

    The whole "its good for the middle class" is just a phrase thrown out to try to get you to stop thinking too much about it - like "for the children".

  • Rhywun||

    I remember my college days in Buffalo - minimum wage was a big deal because that is your wage if you're (a) in a low-cost city with a depressed economy and (b) looking for an easy-to-get, part-time, no-skill job. Later I discovered that the same sorts of jobs in a city like SF or NYC start at around double minimum wage.

  • lap83||

    As far as I recall from my history classes on the Great Depression, it wasn't the New Deal which prolonged it. It was the tractor-man and the banker-man and all the other hyphenated men that made the Joads give them money in exchange for things.

  • Winded||

    Gary Johnson voter, current Raiders & former Vikings punter Chris Kluwe dislikes Ayn Rand:

    http://www.salon.com/2013/06/2.....ertarians/

  • JMos||

    Wait I thought all libertarians had shrines to Ayn Rand in their bedrooms.

  • Hash Brown||

    I have one in my bathroom.

  • A Serious Man||

    Here is Chris Kluwe's interview with Reason from December.

    He also shares his dislike for Any Rand (Free Markets Be Upon Her) because she lacked "rational empathy".

  • Agammamon||

    Hmm, I would have said that the was all about *rational* empathy - not so big on appeals to emotion though.

  • ||

    You could say that it is fun to watch a collectivist beat up a strawman, but it is not. It really isnt.

  • Agammamon||

    Its like Superman fighting Zod - it goes on forever with neither side looking good.

  • The Immaculate Trouser||

    Eh, he has something of a point.

    To Ayn Rand, empathy as such was basically useless, and the only value was in whatever pleasure a person derives in his actions towards others. Moreover, she places a lot of blame for the problems in the world at the feet of supposedly irrational abstract empathy.

    Of course when she was called on it by libertarians and non-libertarians alike, she played semantics and redefined empathy and selfishness to the point where neither one is particularly useful or recognizable to anyone not steeped in the terminology of Objectivism.

  • ||

  • Brett L||

    Asian. I thought you gayboys were above stereotyping.

  • ||

    For the cultural diversity requirement of Citizenship in the Community merit badge, my (Korean) friend and I snapped pictures at a local Korean grocery store.

    While we were in the parking lot he exclaimed how scared he was that we would be run over.

  • Hyperion||

    While we were in the parking lot he exclaimed how scared he was that we would be run over

    No shit. My wife and I buy most of our produce at the Korean market. the parking lot is insane.

  • Locke||

    Did it go something like this?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YGT3m4ltCU

  • playa manhattan||

    I saw the quadfecta yesterday morning. Elderly, asian, female, cab driver. I just pulled over to the curb until she was out of sight.

  • Brett L||

    Glad you're still here.

  • ||

    Whoa dude, why'd you have to make this tragic story about race? Just 'cause you straight folks are beholden to the matriarchy for your lovin' doesn't mean you can ignore the issue of gender here.

  • Brett L||

    Actually, I trust the gf. She is an excellent driver. Definitely safer than I am unless we're in the city and "assertiveness" is a survival trait. I mean, I grew up driving the highways of Houston, Going 85 with a semi-truck bump-drafting you is just part of the experience. But day to day, you want her.

    Unless she doesn't like your driving or is having a bad day. Then she views the car as a Gundam suit for working out her issues.

  • mr lizard||

    Yep, got my evening coffee on me....jerk

  • Brett L||

    Welcome.

  • Matrix||

    I can't even imagine what would go through a 6 year old kids mind after seeing something that horrific.

  • Hyperion||

    I guess that guy didn't know the golden rule of teaching women to drive.

    Never be in the car or anywhere near it when the fembot is behind the wheel!

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    A source surnamed Yang said that Lin had successfully parked in the space once before that day, but her husband asked her to do it again because she needed the practice.

    Clearly.

  • Agammamon||

    A two-fer - womand *and* Asian!

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Damon Root noted earlier the Supreme Court pushed an affirmative action in education case back to lower courts for more scrutiny.

    The U.S. Supreme Court has filled its quota of minority cases.

  • Andrew S.||

    Thomas said in his dissent that he would overturn Grutter v. Bollinger (the 2003 affirmative action case). Can't wait to see some of the lefties criticize him on that one.

  • Andrew S.||

    Er, not dissent. Concurrence.

  • ||

  • BigT||

    IRS scandal is worse than previously indicated.

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The Internal Revenue Service's screening of groups seeking tax-exempt status was broader and lasted longer than has been previously disclosed, the new head of the agency said Monday.

    An internal IRS document obtained by The Associated Press said that besides "tea party," lists used by screeners to pick groups for close examination also included the terms "Israel," ''Progressive" and "Occupy." The document said an investigation into why specific terms were included was still underway.

    In a conference call with reporters, Danny Werfel said that after becoming acting IRS chief last month, he discovered wide-ranging and improper terms on the lists and said screeners were still using them. He did not specify what terms were on the lists, but said he suspended the use of all such lists immediately.
  • C. Anacreon||

    Are all IRS spokespeople former Florida State quarterbacks?

  • Brett L||

    Wrong group of criminals in uniform on the grid-iron. Wuerffel was UF. But his pro career was so terrible, I can see how you could confuse him with an FSU QB.

  • Andrew S.||

    At least FSU had a Super Bowl winning QB. Who's the best QB UF was able to produce? It might've been Wuerffel. At least he started for a few years.

  • Pro Libertate||

    That's an excellent point, and I feel extra-guilty (as a Bucs fan) for forgetting about Brad Johnson when lamenting the lack of UF/FSU NFL QBs of quality. I think he was a much better QB than he's been given credit for. Mostly a bench player at FSU, too.

  • Pro Libertate||

    Also, Wuerffel was like John the Baptist to Tebow.

  • Andrew S.||

    Wuerffel was an incredible college QB. Better than Tebow IMO. I was at FSU from 95-97, for two very good UF-FSU games alomg with the '97 national championship game. Hated UF, still hate UF, but damn was Wuerffel good.

  • Pro Libertate||

    I agree completely. In fact, I was shocked that he didn't do better in the NFL. He's one of the most accurate passers I've seen.

    What I was referring to, actually, was his strong religious views. Quite Tebowesque.

  • Andrew S.||

    Yeah, I know about that. Didn't he become a preacher or something? Or working for a religious organization at least.

  • Pro Libertate||

    Well, first he went into the desert and lived on locusts and honey. Then he baptized Tim Tebow. Or something.

  • The DerpRider||

    I think he's going to take a knee and try to run out the clock...

  • Coeus||

  • ||

    Or is she just hoping for street cred? Note that she is wearing white, in the spotlight, the star of the video — and they are treated as props, a background for her to shine in front of.

    SHE IS THE FUCKING STAR OF THE VIDEO!!!

  • Hyperion||

    And if you don't point it out, you're both racist and sexist.

  • The Immaculate Trouser||

    What if you don't give a shit *what*, if anything, Miley Cyrus' music video says about society? Does that make you racist and sexist, or merely misanthropic?

  • mad libertarian guy||

    What if you don't give a shit *what*, if anything, Miley Cyrus' music video says about society? Does that make you racist and sexist, or merely misanthropic?

    It makes you sane and level-headed.

  • Mickey Rat||

    "But it’s that song’s video that really represents both Cyrus’ most decisive attempt to position herself as a rebel..."

    If an adult former Disney star wants to really position herself as a "rebel" maybe she should not be trying so hard to be a rebel. It seems more that she's desperately trying to conform with what an "adult" pop singer's shtick is supposed to be, not make her own personality.

  • Tejicano||

    So what am I if I don't click the link and don't even have any idea who or what a Miley Cyrus is? Wouldn't even know who it is if it was sitting next to me on a Tokyo-LA flight?

  • Tim||

    Only The Man gets to use these things:

    Turkish Police Shoot Down Private Drone Over Protesters

    http://reason.com/24-7/2013/06.....vate-drone

  • Paul.||

    Covered.

  • Coeus||

    Watch Fark flail about trying to misconstrue a easily understood quote from Rand Paul.


    DamnYankees
    2013-06-24 03:28:58 PM
    dittybopper: He's actually kind of right: A democracy unbridled by strong individual rights applied equally can turn into a tyranny of the majority, and Jim Crow is a perfect example of that.

    This is not what he said. He didn't say "Democracy has vulnerabilities" or "democracy has weaknesses". That would be ok, because while it recognizes the issues in there, it still shows some awareness that every governmental system has some form of abuse possible, but democrac is a pretty good way to handle it.

    But he didn't say that. He said he doesn't believe in democracy. That's because he's a Randian (pun not intended). He seems to fundamentally believe in the truth that there is a class of people, the Maker class, which is actually better, and better suited to govern. It's like an inverse Marxism.
  • ||

    He seems to fundamentally believe in the truth that there is a class of people, the Maker class, which is actually better, and better suited to govern.

    That's one of my favorite progressive projections. They're incapable of comprehending a society in which TOP MEN are not in charge.

  • kinnath||

    Democracy is evil.

  • Irish||

    He said he doesn't believe in democracy.

    No country on Earth believes in Democracy. That's why no one has direct Democracy. They have various sorts of Republican governments.

  • kinnath||

    Don't confuse the poor lad with facts.

  • A Serious Man||

  • JMos||

    I'm going to say that the masturbation numbers are probably higher than that graph says.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Well, I can't jerk off to it.

  • Irish||

    Only 75% of 16-17 year old men masturbated in the last year?

    Yeah, okay.

  • Hash Brown||

    The other 25% thought the question said "in the last hour."

  • Andrew S.||

    Being that it's 16-17 year old boys, I think 75% would be low even in that case.

  • Hyperion||

    One of my Indian friends (Hindu) just told me that you aren't supposed to masturbate because you'll lose power. Or something like that... I'm not sure about the science behind that...

  • Rhywun||

    Sounds like a variation on the guilt-trip theme that Catholics get - and I bet it's equally ignored.

  • Brett L||

    No, no, my understanding is that there's nothing wrong with spankin' it. Ejaculation is bad, though.

  • Rhywun||

    Ha ha ha, that's rich.

  • A Serious Man||

    Interesting that there is a 20 point increase of men giving women oral from the age of 20-24 to 25-30.

  • PapayaSF||

    And that 70+ men are getting a lot more action than 70+ women. Maybe it's the relative numbers.

  • Rasilio||

    Hmm,

    16 - 17 year old females receiving oral from a male - 24%

    16 - 17 year old males performing oral on a female - 18%

    It looks like a lot of girls are getting munched on by their teachers

  • Matrix||

    Nadal gets beat early at Wimbledon
    I'm sure my former roommate is crying a river tears right now.

  • A Serious Man||

    Nation can breath a sigh of relief as Rusty the red panda found safe and sound after escaping from National Zoo.

    The panda was found by residents who used Twitter to tweet pictures to the National Zoo.

  • Hyperion||

    Thank God, I was really worried that it would make it's way up north here and eat all of that bamboo growing beside the road.

  • NeonCat||

    I don't think red pandas are the picky f'ing eaters the giant pandas are.

    From wiki:
    It feeds mainly on bamboo, but is omnivorous and may also eat eggs, birds, insects, and small mammals.

  • A Serious Man||

    Rusty the RED panda is clearly a communist infiltrator trying to subvert our nation.

  • T||

    Better than the manichean giant panda, which only cheapens our national discourse by only framing things in black and white.

  • The Immaculate Trouser||

    Well, he is from China...

    Someone check his birth certificate!

  • Fatty Bolger||

    The president plans to raise your power bill

    On Tuesday, President Obama will announce his plan to increase everyone’s power bill. Or, as he puts it, “a national plan to reduce carbon pollution, prepare our country for the impacts of climate change and lead global efforts to fight it.”

    If you accept the science of global warming, then you accept the fact that the president’s unilateral action on climate change will have absolutely no effect in terms of adjusting the global thermostat to a temperature Obama finds desirable. The rest of the developing world, anchored by India and China, are building carbon-burning factories, power plants and even whole new cities that will overwhelm any new rules the president may impose on Americans and our struggling economy.

    Related: Ice Sheets

  • Matrix||

    Well, at least he's doing SOMETHING! What better way to reduce our carbon footprint but by crippling our already fragile economy?

  • Lolo Stahko||

    The Colorado Civil Rights Division has ruled that an elementary school discriminated by blocking a transgendered girl, age 6, from using the girls’ bathroom.

    If a "transgender" four year old boy doesn't want to use the boys bathroom, it's perfectly normal. If the other five hundred girls at the school don't want the boy in their bathroom, it's bigotry. And I define boys and girls based on Actual biology, rather than "social constructs."

  • Irish||

    http://www.hhs.gov/news/press/.....0624a.html

    Department of Health and Human Services launches Obamacare customer service hotline.

    Don't worry, guys! Problem solved!

  • ||

    To be staffed entirely by surly drones who have no authority to do anything at all about your problem.

  • Fatty Bolger||

    New craze in ‘love pillows’ depicting male characters

    They’re swiftly gaining popularity in the West, and not among men. Bizarrely, it’s female fans of various male characters who are ordering these pillows. They range from mildly disturbing to hilarious, and I can’t imagine that anyone would actually be shameless enough to buy them, but clearly I’m wrong.

    So if you’ve ever wanted to be able to sleep with Batman, or Thor, you’re in luck. And, if you’re a fan of Benedict Cumberbatch, you’ll have to choose whether you love Sherlock or Khan better, because they have both. Also, characters from The Hobbit, Doctor Who and Supernatural.
  • ||

    Dunno what "Xanthe Hawksley-Walker" (WTF?) find bizarre about it. News flash: girls like eye candy, too.

  • Xenocles||

    Do they have the dragon from the Hobbit movie?

  • The Bearded Hobbit||

    The Hobbit,

    Sweet...

    ... Hobbit

  • Paul.||

    he specifically took the job at Booz Allen Hamilton in order to track down evidence of the National Security Agency’s secret surveillance program.

    The MSM is already hostile to this guy.

    I'm not sure why I feel this way, because I haven't sorted out my thoughts on this, but something's telling me this won't help his case in the MSM.

  • The Immaculate Trouser||

    The Shrieking Harpy has claimed another foreskin:

    Thank you, Ron. Apologizing is hard, and you sucked up and did it.

    [snip]

    Feminists talked about the dangers of marginalizing women’s voices, and CFI created the Women in Secularism Conference specifically to combat that. It’s always been a smart organization that sees the intersections between secularism and feminism clearly. That’s why it was frustrating to feel like that was all being pissed away because of a knee-jerk desire to placate misogynists—a desire that we’ve all experienced, but one that has to be resisted if positive change is to be achieved.

    She is so classy when it comes to accepting apologies, don't you think?

  • Coeus||

    Dumbass. They were all ready to take their ball and go home. Why the hell did he do that? They were gonna have their own conferences, where everyone walked on eggshells, and the feel good vibe of "wimmen power" would have paled quickly in comparison to the sterile atmosphere. Everybody wins.

  • Red Rocks Rockin||

    This is why you don't apologize to them--you double down on what pissed them off in the first place and let them stew in their own hatred and impotency.

  • The Immaculate Trouser||

    There was nothing to apologize for. I don't know squat about the skeptic movement, but what I read from Ron was innocuous. He was attacked for the feminist equivalent of "revisionism".

    Should have stood firm, Ronny boy.

  • Coeus||

    Hehe. This probably won"t stay up long:

    David Jones Flying Squid • 43 minutes ago −
    Ok, let me be clear then what i mean by 'regarded as a pariah'. I'm in the UK and i don't face the prospect of having to listen to Marcotte speak and nor do any organisations i subscribe to (let me see, that's be...none) invite her to speak. And I don't hunt her down online - I occasionally stumble across her.

    What I think decent people in the skeptic movement in the US should do is have nothing to do with her until she makes adequate recompense, perhaps by way of grovelling essay, for her disgraceful remarks.

    That's what I mean by treating her as a pariah.

    I missed how it was she got involved with the skeptic movement. How *did* that happen?
  • Irish||

    Ok, let me be clear then what i mean by 'regarded as a pariah'. I'm in the UK and i don't face the prospect of having to listen to Marcotte speak

    Lucky son of a bitch.

  • SugarFree||

    What happened this time? Was another girl asked to go to coffee by a guy she didn't find attractive? Which I believe is know defined as "questionrape."

  • Pro Libertate||

    The shit women have to tolerate.

  • SugarFree||

    "What is 'questionrape?'"

    "I'VE BEEN QUESTIONRAPERAPED!"

  • Pro Libertate||

    Just asking that question rapes all women ever alive in the past, alive now, or still to be born.

  • The Immaculate Trouser||

    Sugarfree is the Kwistioner Haderach, he who who can rape in many places at once.

  • Pro Libertate||

    Kwistioner Haderape.

  • The Immaculate Trouser||

    Yes, that is better. Revision accepted, sir.

  • The Immaculate Trouser||

    Yes, that is better. Revision accepted, sir.

  • The Immaculate Trouser||

    A self-described male feminist at a skeptics' conference dispassionately pointed out that several concepts near and dear to the feminist movement ("privilege" and "patriarchy", for example) aren't really all that well-defined and tend to be overused, and pointed out the problem with misandry in the movement.

    Obviously, the correct course of action was to heap scorn on his head rather than address his points.

  • SugarFree||

    If he had a point they would have addressed it, since they didn't address it, he must not have had a point.

    (I should have indicated that my question was rhetorical. Good of you to recap it, though.)

  • Tulpa (LAOL-VA)||

    Don't you hate people who respond to rational argument against their position by showering the arguer with insults and lies?

  • SugarFree||

    You said you had me blocked and weren't reading my posts. That I was just white space.

    Something else you've lied about.

  • ChrisO||

    Tempest in a thimble.

  • Coeus||

    More feminist logic:

    If men and women are exactly the same, why do men masturbate more? Obviously, it's the men's fault that women aren't masturbating more.

  • Paul.||

    Proof that men and women are different, a scene you'll never see:

    A man running out of a room crying, with a woman chasing close behind asking, "What? What'd I say this time?"

  • Coeus||

    Beautiful. I'm saving that for future use.

  • Rebekah||

    I wouldn't say "never." I've experienced an unreasonable facsimile of this scene. I can only conclude that I suck at being a chick and/or my ex was a giant pussy.

  • Coeus||

    I wouldn't say "never." I've experienced an unreasonable facsimile of this scene. I can only conclude that I suck at being a chick and/or my ex was a giant pussy.

    Dear god. I know a few guys who would be considered "a giant pussy", and I can't even conceive of them doing something like that.

    "There are more things in heaven and earth..."

  • Zeb||

    I know a few people I could imagine in that situation.

  • ||

    Ha, I've dated that guy. But to keep it apples to apples, my roommate's current bf is crazy sensitive (about his feelings, not so much about anybody else's) and she feels like she needs to constantly navigate his emotional well-being. My (quite drunken) advice was "FLEE! FLEE!" (It was not taken)

  • Agammamon||

    Wow, the article descends into the mad realms by the second paragraph.

    "Perhaps some women are lacking in a basic wanking education."

    I'm sorry, uh Amanda - no-one teaches guys how to wack-off, we're able to figure it out all by our lonesome (literally).

    ". . .but societal pressure keeps them from creating too much friction."

    WTF? Its not like guys get to brag about when or how often they rub one out. Yes guys masturbate, a lot, and yet if you're caught (or even suspected) you get made fun of. Women get masturbation aids advertised on tv for chrissakes.

  • Zeb||

    Is it even possible to answer a question that starts with a conditional clause that is false?

    Now, I'm no evolutionary psychologist, but it seems to me that it makes a whole lot of sense evolutionarily that men would be more interested in frequent sex and/or masturbation and less picky about sexual partners since biologically he is capable of reproducing several times a day, where a woman can only do so once a year or so.

  • Terr||

    I believe this line of reasoning is also misogynist.

  • mnarayan||

    Is it even possible to answer a question that starts with a conditional clause that is false?

    It's more than just possible; it's trivial.

  • Locke||

    O/T but .. I just... I just can't fathom the stupidity of this article : http://www.alaskadispatch.com/.....ade-stupid

    A business is making money by offering a service people want to buy?! THE HORRORZ!!!!

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