4 More Ways Obama's Gun Control Speech Sows Mistrust

White HouseWhite HouseAs I noted earlier today, President Obama professes to be worried about a lack of trust and empathy in the gun control debate, even as he accuses his opponents of blocking life-saving legislation out of sheer partisan perversity. Here are a few other ways in which Obama's speech in Denver sows mistrust:

He conflates a failed background check with stopping a criminal from obtaining a gun.  "Over the past 20 years," Obama says, "background checks have kept more than 2 million dangerous people from buying a gun." That claim is based on two faulty assumptions: 1) that everyone who fails a background check is dangerous, which plainly is not true, given the ridiculously broad categories of people who are legally barred from buying firearms, and 2) that a criminal intent on obtaining a weapon will give up if he cannot get it over the counter at a gun store, rather than enlisting a straw buyer or turning to the gray or black market.

He falsely equates "assault weapons" with military guns. Obama inaccurately calls one of the guns used in the 2012 Aurora, Colorado, massacre an "assault rifle," which is a military weapon capable of firing automatically. He calls the guns he wants to ban "weapons of war," again implying that they fire continuously, when in fact they fire once per trigger pull, like any other semi-automatic firearm.

He says there is no logical connection between "universal background checks" and gun registration. "We're not proposing a gun registration system," Obama insists. "We’re proposing background checks for criminals." But there is no way to enforce a background-check requirement for every gun transfer unless the government knows where the guns are. Federally licensed gun dealers are readily identified and can be required to keep sale records. Individual gun owners who might dare to sell their property without clearance from the government cannot be identified unless the government compiles a list of them. Hence Obama's assurances amount to saying, "Don't worry. We will make a big show of passing this new background-check mandate, but we won't really enforce it."

He pooh-poohs the idea that there could ever be anything adversarial about the relationship between Americans and their government:

You hear some of these quotes: "I need a gun to protect myself from the government." "We can't do background checks because the government is going to come take my guns away." 

Well, the government is us. These officials are elected by you. (Applause.) They are elected by you. I am elected by you. I am constrained, as they are constrained, by a system that our Founders put in place. It's a government of and by and for the people.

One of the constraints on the federal government is the doctrine of enmuerated powers, which says every act of Congress must be justified by a specific constitutional grant of authority. Where is the clause that empowers Congress to say how many rounds you can put in a magazine or whether your rifle can have a barrel shroud? Furthermore, as Obama surely has heard by now, there is this thing called the Second Amendment, and it is hardly frivolous to argue than an arbitrary and capricious piece of legislation like the "assault weapon" ban Obama supports would violate the constitutional right to keep and bear arms. Yet to Obama's mind, anyone who makes such an argument is one of those "people who take absolute positions" and therefore can be safely ignored. After all, the government is us. 

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  • ||

    Forget Jake, it's Obamatown.

  • NeonCat||

    No! Jake! We can't leave him behind!

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  • trshmnstr||

    "Well, the government is us."

    Yes, because the majority has NEVER trod on the rights of the minority.

  • LTC(ret) John||

    l'état, c'est moi

  • StinkEye||

    "Well, the government is us."

    Bitter clingers, and all...

  • NeonCat||

    "Well, the government is us."

    Whoa, whoa, whoa. I am NOT taking responsibility for this mess. I didn't sign off on a blessed bit of it.

  • some guy||

    You signed the social contract in blood the moment you were born. Before you could even focus your eyes you had agreed to take on all the debts and responsibilities accrued by past generations. You are responsible because they say you are responsible. Deal with it.

  • JohnD||

    Hey someguy, screw you, idiot.

  • Bill||

    He was being sarcastic. But maybe you were joking?

  • JohnD||

    Yeah, what Neoncat said.

  • Rights-Minimalist Autocrat||

    Fuck off, slaver.

  • dinkster||

    I'm confused, is "fuck off, slaver" something we say sarcastically to Tony or to people we agree with?

  • dinkster||

    in b4 fuck off, slaver

  • azgirl||

    German Jews had nothing to fear from the Nazis. After all, they were all Germans.

  • JohnD||

    Great analogy

  • azgirl||

    Yeah, right down to the fact that the Nazis thoughtfully confiscated all the Jews' guns so they wouldn't hurt themselves with them. That was just before they rounded them into cattle cars and took them to the gas chambers. Essentially without a shot being fired.

  • LarryA||

    It did avoid "gun-deaths."

  • Tamfang||

    The government is us because elections are incorruptible.

  • ||

    Obama is a disingenuous, mendacious, complete piece of shit. Do you expect anything other than lies and veiled insults to come out of his shit-eating mouth?

  • ||

    You read my mind and stole my comment, damn you.

  • Enough About Palin||

    What's really gross is the likelihood that Barack tosses Michelle's salad (and vise-versa)

  • Ska||

    Man, I just had salad for lunch (topped with gyro). I'm gonna ralph.

    Oh, it was the semi-rancid feta.

  • AuntiE||

    This is where you went wrong in your post. You started out with wonderful word usage and then went into poor word choices. Let me rewrite it for you.
    Obama is a disingenuous, mendacious, complete piece of deification. Do you expect anything other than prevarications, and veiled insults out of his deification mouth.
    See, big word insults are so much better! ;)

  • Red Rocks Rockin||

    I am constrained, as they are constrained, by a system that our Founders put in place.

    I'm shocked he didn't break out laughing after he said that.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-PA)||

    It's hilarious that the Dems are, with an apparently straight face, making the case that no elected government will ever do anything that harms the people. If they really believe that, I have some "Bu$hhitler" picket signs to sell them real cheap.

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    not if the Right People are in charge

  • some guy||

    The "Right People" always being "me and people who think like me".

  • Mr. Soul||

    as University Presidents say "absolute power corrupts other people absolutely"

  • JohnD||

    Definitely not people like you.

  • Jon Lester||

    I remember Larry King using the phrase "correct-thinking people" in a serious tone, way back in the 80's when he was only on the radio, and I've been suspicious of such notions ever since.

  • ||

    I used to pass by the state Democratic Party headquarters on my commute, there was one car with a cracked and fading anti-war bumper sticker next to a slightly worn Hillary '08 bumper sticker next to a bright and shiny new Obama bumper sticker.

  • Night Elf Mohawk||

    My copy of the Constitution is missing the "If Congress doesn't act, I will" clause.

  • RightNut||

    Obama's copy is missing alot more than yours.

  • NeonCat||

    He used his Constitutional scholar skillz to find the REAL Constitution, but the Rethuglicans won't let him show it to anyone.

    It's so sad, how powerless he is. Luckily he has golf to plow his energy into.

  • NeonCat||

    And campaigning, mustn't forget campaigning.

  • some guy||

    They are constrained by the Constitution, but their ability to misinterpret the Constitution is constrained only by our will to vote them out. We are severely lacking in that will.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-PA)||

    Federally licensed gun dealers are readily identified and can be required to keep sale records.

    Yes, but those records are scattered around the country (assuming the ATF is following the law and deleting NICS records after 72h). That's not a registry; identifying whether an individual person owns a gun would be a gargantuan task, and compiling a usable list of gun owners even more arduous.

    Individual gun owners who might dare to sell their property without clearance from the government cannot be identified unless the government compiles a list of them.

    Uh, no; they can be identified when the gun is used in a crime and traced back to the FFL that sold it. You know, the way we determine who illegally sold a gun to a felon under current laws.

  • Almanian!||

    (assuming the ATF is following the law and deleting NICS records after 72h)

    Your first suspect assumption...

  • Tulpa (LAOL-PA)||

    Yes, that's my main problem with just taking the current NICS system and making it universal -- though with the vast majority of gun sales already going through NICS, that horse may already be out of the barn.

    But, I don't have a problem with background checks being required in itself.

  • Killazontherun||

    Fine with me. My customers only know me as Wonderboy, and the post criminal activity background checks implicate Michael Douglas. I admit it is an elaborate scheme to get into C Zeta Jones pants and has nothing to do with ideological sympathies.

  • JohnD||

    That depends on how onerous the checks are. "The Right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed."

  • ||

    "You know, the way we determine who illegally sold a gun to a felon under current laws."

    Hey, have more respect for your Attorney General than that Bud....he is the tippidy toppest of top men.

  • Rasilio||

    I buy a gun from a FFL dealer.

    I sell it to my brother in law, who gives it to his nephew as a birthday present who keeps it for a few years and then sells it to a coworker who loses it in a poker game to a guy who knocks off a convenience store with it.

    Every transfer in that chain happened without benefit of a background check, are you saying that every one of those people should now be arrested for selling or transferring ownership of a gun without performing a background check?

  • Tulpa (LAOL-PA)||

    If all these transfers happened when the law required background checks, sure thing. Guns aren't DVD players (as evidenced by the end result of that chain of custody).

  • RightNut||

    How exactly does one give a background check to one's brother?

  • Wiregrass||

    You both have to go to an FFL to complete the transfer, probably a Form 4473 and any other state forms, and the NICS check.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-PA)||

    Yes, this. In many states (including PA) you already have to do an FFL transfer for handguns unless giving it to a spouse or offspring.

  • CampingInYourPark||

    "Guns aren't DVD players"

    You've obviously never seen a child strangled with a DVD power cord. Begin the DVD player registry!

  • NeonCat||

    No one needs a DVD player with more than one tray.

  • Death Rock and Skull||

    My DVD player has a literal "magazine" that holds 400 "rounds".

  • Ptah-Hotep||

    If all these transfers happened when the law required background checks,

    Which is why we shouldn't have universal background checks. The only one responsible is the individual who knocked over the convenience store.

    A gun is a tool, just like a knife, a hammer, or a dvd player.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-PA)||

    Let me know when 20 people get killed with a DVD player.

  • LTC(ret) John||

    Fuck off, slaver.

    You want more government power and intrusiveness directed at me and others because someone, somewhere did something wrong.

    punish the wrongdoer, not me

  • Ptah-Hotep||

    And did I kill anyone? Do you have probable cause to think I will, or the person I want to sell it to will? If not, then screw the background checks.

    “If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
    ― Samuel Adams

  • Mr. Soul||

    Beer, Beer, Beer, Beer, Beer, Beer.
    - Bender Bending Rodriguez

  • Fatty Bolger||

    Apparently Tulpa supports knife & hammer background checks.

  • Brendan||

    Irrelevant. Rights are rights.

  • Killazontherun||

    Let me know of a state outside of Rome whose agents haven t killed more than twenty of its own citizens.

  • Emmerson Biggins||

    Let me know when DVD players get their own clause in the constitution.

  • dinkster||

    Is the DVD player built in China?

  • Rasilio||

    And since this chain of events takes lets say 10 years to play out how praytell will anyone be able to confirm whether background checks were performed unless the results of such background checks are archived permanently thereby creating an effective gun registry?

  • Tulpa (LAOL-PA)||

    Since you were the last one to purchase via an FFL, they'd come to you and tell you your gun was used in a c-store robbery; and ask how did the robber gain possession of it.

    Same thing as happened with that girl in upstate NY who sold the gun to the guy who shot a bunch of firemen last Christmas Eve.

  • fish||

    Isn't the "when" impossible to determine? I bought the gun ten years ago and sold it 3 years later.....no prohibitions on person to person sales then and no record keeping requirements.

    Looks like 7 years of ambiguity.

  • Rasilio||

    But that is not the issue in question.

    I did not ask how the gun would be traced to the criminal, they would already do that today if they knew that the gun belonged to me at some point

    The question is how would they enforce a requirement that all gun sales go through a background check without building a defacto registry of every gun transfer ever made (or at least those made since the law was passed).

    So I bought the gun from a FFL dealer, presumably they would be able to trace that through the guns serial number and the FFL dealers records. Then they come to me and ask about the gun, I tell them I sold it to my brother in law 8 years ago. Under current law that is the end of it and they go talk to the brother in law. With mandatory background checks they now ask "did you get a background check" so they know whether to charge me with a crime. If they have records of all gun transfer background check requests the can go back and check, if they delete them after 72 hours then the law is moot since I can simply respond "Yes" and they could never prove otherwise.

    So a law requiring universal background checks is either irrelevant unenforceable fluff, or the stealth creation of a universal firearms registry.

  • Killazontherun||

    Your original question could not have been made more clear or its underlying logic better asserted. Tulpa is senile.

  • JohnD||

    There is no method in lace for anyone but a FLL to apply for background checks. Get your facts straight Tulpa

  • Adam330||

    If the NICS records are destroyed, how does the Government show a seller didn't do the background check? It has to go find the seller and ask for his records, right? So essentially failure to keep the record is a felony.

    If NICS records are retained, then the Government effectively has registry.

  • free2booze||

    The government doesn't need a registry. They will just place the burden of proof on you to show that you performed a back ground check before selling your gun.

    What's that, your basement flooded and destroyed the documentation proving you did perform a back ground check? Sucks to be you!

  • ||

    "Well, the government is us. Well, the government is us. These officials are elected by you. (Applause.) They are elected by you. I am elected by you. I am constrained, as they are constrained, by a system that our Founders put in place. It's a government of and by and for the people.

    How does this piece of shit manage to even sleep at night? Much less say something like that with a straight-face given that he has done so much to completely shatter the notion that the government and the executive branch is 'constrained' by rule of law.

  • ||

    He sleeps like a baby. Because he has the power and you don't.

  • Archduke Pantsfan||

    No call at 3am gonna wake his ass up

  • Restoras||

    Yeah, the government is "us" until consent is withdrawn. Then it really is "you" but not in the way you think.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-PA)||

    He's reading it off the teleprompter. He probably doesn't even understand it.

  • John||

    For once I agree with Tulpa. I don't care if he was editor of the Harvard Law degree. I believe my lying eyes. Obama is dumber than a fucking post.

  • Restoras||

    And less useful. Unless you are in the firearms manufacturing/retail business.

  • ||

    I think that's been proven pretty conclusively, John, and by Obama himself. People should go back and watch his first debate with Romney. Again and again and again.

  • John||

    I always like to ask his supporters to name a single thing that he has done right. They can never name anything. They have no idea why they like him. They just do.

  • Almanian!||

    Unfortunately, a high school classmate (admittedly not the sharpest knife in the drawer) put up this list of the Bamster's "Accomplishments" just before the election. And commented, "That seems like a pretty good list..."

    I don't recall what was on it, other than thinking, "You and I have very different definitions of 'accomplishment'..."

  • John||

    Let me guess, most of it was some variation of "saved us from the evil rethuglicans"

  • RightNut||

    I guess you are not into anal-rape then.

  • PapayaSF||

    A Facebook friend (and semi-famous author) put one up as well. Maybe the same one. I stopped reading after "He formed a commission to...."

  • NeonCat||

    It shames me to share this here, but I got in an argument about Obummer with my sister, who is one of his fans.

    She told me she "hired him to be charismatic".

    It made me very, very sad. But at least she never has to be disappointed, I guess.

  • fish||

    She told me she "hired him to be charismatic".

    And she got exactly that. President Hollow Chocolate Bunny....sweet and tasty on the outside and empty resonant chamber underneath.

  • JohnD||

    I'm sorry your sister is brain dead.

  • StinkEye||

    I always like to ask his supporters to name a single thing that he has done right. They can never name anything. They have no idea why they like him. They just do.

    Their ..umm... "Love of The One" reminds me of a teenage girls crush on some lowlife dropout, the more dad yells about him, the more she claims love him. She only got together with the one, because she has daddy issues in the first place. Dad knows that the guy is a loser, and will beat her, then leave her heartbroken, knocked up, and destitute, she will learn this in time as well, but until then...there's just no consoling her, she has to do this... because she LOVES him!

  • LTC(ret) John||

    Good Lord man, that is eerie... and accurate.

  • StinkEye||

    -Append

    "But daddy, why can't you see? He's so sweet, and smart, and sooo creative...he's just like a misunderstood *genius*. You're just jealous of him, you're old and set in your ways, you won't give him a chance. He wants to move in with us, he says he will get a job...and pay some bills as soon as he gets settled...and I love him so much...can he hook his Xbox up to your T.V.?"

  • gaoxiaen||

    He's not Mitt Romney.

  • section9||

    I guess he goes home and reads his copy of "Japanese Internment For Dummies" by F.D. Roosevelt and E. Warren.

  • Night Elf Mohawk||

    These officials are elected by you.

    Does that mean he'll leave me alone if I didn't vote for those officials?

  • Zeb||

    I'm getting sick of being told that the government represents me and that I have the power to change it. It doesn't and I don't. I don't believe that anyone I have ever voted for is currently in office and that doesn't seem likely to change. I am not part of any collective "you" thank you very much.

    Do people really believe that voting somehow means that decisions are made collectively, or are they lying assholes?

  • ||

    Do people really believe that voting somehow means that decisions are made collectively, or are they lying assholes?

    Most people really do. And it will completely blow their mind if you try to explain otherwise.

  • Tman||

    4 Yet More Ways Obama's Gun Control Speech Administration Sows Mistrust Ignores The Tax Payers And Shows How Much He Envy's China

  • Ted S.||

    Envy's

    You people do this deliberately to drive people into a white-hot rage, don't you?

  • Tman||

    In the most deliberatest way possible.

  • Almanian!||

    "Well, I didn't vote for you."

    /peasant woman

  • db||

    You don't *vote* for Kings!

  • ||

    Well, how'd you become king then?

  • StinkEye||

    Sophistry, and intrigue...Oh, and ultraviolence

  • LTC(ret) John||

    With just a little bit of the old in/out in/out.

  • itsnotmeitsyou||

    The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water, signifying by divine providence that I, Obama, was to carry Excalibur. That is why I am your king

  • Mr. Soul||

    Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.

  • itsnotmeitsyou||

    You can't expect to wield supreme power just 'cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!

  • section9||

    I command you to SHUT UP!

  • Muzzle of Bees||

    I mean, if I went 'round saying I was an emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!

  • StinkEye||

    The Lady of the Lake, her arm clad in the purest shimmering samite, held aloft Excalibur from the bosom of the water, signifying by divine providence that I, Obama, was to carry Excalibur. That is why I am your king

    Actually, he paid some dipshit simpleton to pull that sword out of a rock for him...

  • John||

    Just because he calls you an accomplice to murder doesn't mean you can't trust him. Come on guys. You are just racist or something.

  • StinkEye||

    "Just because he calls you an accomplice to murder doesn't mean you can't trust him. Come on guys. You are just racist or something."

    Dammit, youre right..I'm just not cultured or sophisticated enough, and must lack the cognitive ability to comprehend the complicated nuances, and deep rooted altruism of The One...I guess I'm just a bitter clinger, and racist by extension. I.must.pledge.fealty.to.The One..

  • ||

    What a disgusting fuck.

    I mean seriously. You don't pay much attention to those constraints while you murderdrone people halfway around the world. Or continue to fight an unconstitutional drug war. Or sign off on warrant-less wiretaps. Or reauthorize the Patriot Act. Or sign off on indefinite detention. I'm sure the list goes on but I need to try and keep my blood pressure down.

  • RightNut||

    Murderdrone is not the preferred nomenclature. Dronemurder please.

  • ||

    My bad.

    Plus he lets Warty gambol around the country doing gods know what to untold numbers of people.

  • db||

    How about MurderDroneKill?

  • BakedPenguin||

    Murderdrone is the noun - it's the fake plane; dronemurder is the act. "Hi, captain! Are you flying that murderdrone to Pakistan so you can dronemurder some American citizens who read Al Jazeera?"

  • The Late P Brooks||

    "Over the past 20 years," Obama says, "background checks have kept more than 2 million dangerous people from buying a gun."

    I predict he will retire to a position as head of the Harvard University School of Logic.

  • John||

    Remember when MNG would get on here and tell us how brilliant Obama was? I have always thought he was a moron. Sorry RC Dean, but Obama proves you don't have to be smart to get into and excel at Harvard Law School.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-PA)||

    I don't think he's smart, but his handlers and spinners are very, very formidable political strategists. They know how to get money and how to get votes, which is all that matters in this "govt of the people".

  • John||

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/.....14527.html

    A fully automatic weapon!!! God what a mendacious fuck.

  • Restoras||

    Can't let truth, facts and logic get in the way of an agenda.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-PA)||

    If it was a fully automatic weapon, those are already regulated out the wazoo, so why is he pushing controls on semiautos?

  • John||

    It wasn't a fully automatic weapon of course. And he is just talking out of his ass.

  • Tulpa (LAOL-PA)||

    Yes of course, I'm just trying to damn him according to his own standards.

  • Enough About Palin||

    But the man has no standards.

  • JohnD||

    How can you tell his mouth from his ass?

  • Restoras||

    Because ramping up the hyperbole with outright lies is the only hope he and his douchebag fascists buddies have of getting ANY legislation passed.

  • ||

    Lying liars lie.

  • mr simple||

    I think he really just doesn't know the difference.

  • Restoras||

    What's the phrase - ignorance of the law is no excuse? Well ignorance of the facts is no excuse either, unless of course it gets in the way of an agenda.

  • Whahappan?||

    This reminds me of a Murray Rothbard quote:
    “It is no crime to be ignorant of economics, which is, after all, a specialized discipline and one that most people consider to be a ‘dismal science.’ But it is totally irresponsible to have a loud and vociferous opinion on economic subjects while remaining in this state of ignorance.”

    The sentiment is equally applicable to guns, and any number of other topics that the pieces of shit in government are willfully ignorant of but still think they are entitled to be given a forum to address, and even to issue rules backed by violence (i.e. laws) regarding everything under the sun.

  • Almanian!||

    "The check is in the mail."

    "If you can't trust your priest, who can you trust?"

    "The Social Security Number will never be used to identify people..."

    "We won't use a registry to confiscate guns from legal owners."

    "I won't cum in your mouth fuck you hard in the ass, repeatedly."

  • John||

    If you like your insurance, you can keep it.

  • Almanian!||

    +1 yes

  • StinkEye||

    "If I can’t fix the economy in three years, you can call me former President Obama."

  • Xilano||

    There are only two classes in America: the ruling class and the ruled class. That gets clearer to me every day.

  • ||

    What the fuck is a "barrel shroud"??? The context which it used leads me to believe that the people who use it have no idea what one is. Seriously, nearly all long guns could be affected since by definition the "shroud" could consist of a partial or complete fore end grip.

  • Almanian!||

    I'm picturing a foreskin here, but that's probably not what they mean...

  • ||

    I should have said Barrel covering and not grip. My mistake.

  • StinkEye||

    What the fuck is a "barrel shroud"??? The context which it used leads me to believe that the people who use it have no idea what one is...

    "I'm picturing a foreskin here, but that's probably not what they mean..."

    You're close, it actually means "Condom". It's derived from the obscure and unwritten Latin phrase "barrel shroud"...Barrel, meaning "Cock", and Shroud, meaning "Wrapper"..

    /The more you know

  • fish||

    What the fuck is a "barrel shroud" ???

    That cloth they wrapped Jesus in after the crucifixion.

  • LTC(ret) John||

    +1 Turin

  • ||

    Duh, it's the thing that goes up.

  • StinkEye||

    ^This too^

  • Irish||

    You hear some of these quotes: "I need a gun to protect myself from the government." "We can't do background checks because the government is going to come take my guns away."

    Well, the government is us. These officials are elected by you.

    Don't you Glibertarians know anything? If 51% of the population votes for a politician, it's totally okay if he takes the rights away from the remaining 49%.

    You see, when Hugo Chavez drove the Jews out of Venezuela, it was okay, because he was elected. This is just basic political philosophy.

  • ||

    Dont worry, it isnt like the left heaps adulation on Chavez, is sad he is gone, or advocates that the liar in chief begin behaving like him.

    No, that could never happen here.

    I am going back to my reloading table now.

  • Irish||

    That's not really fair.

    Hugo Chavez only has a 6% approval rating in America, with a 67% disapproval rating. Admittedly, that 6% approval rating consists entirely of hardcore leftists, but even most progressives acknowledge he was slime.

    They just don't realize how their own policies will inevitably lead to that sort of slime holding major political office in America.

  • RightNut||

    Not sure about that, my guess is the majority of the lazy left, which is most of the left, has a vaguely good impression of him, even if they won't say they approve of him. I learned that last week when I happened to mention Venezuela and a friend of mine said "ya but I hear Hugo Chavez did some good things for the poor."

  • Night Elf Mohawk||

    I'm pretty sure "created more of them" isn't the same thing as "doing good things for them."

  • RightNut||

    He was chopping vegetables for me so I wasn't going to argue. Plus I've found citing facts doesn't help my case much.

  • Enough About Palin||

    "Plus I've found citing facts doesn't help my case much."

    So obviously you can relate to Obama then.

  • Irish||

    I don't think a sample of one negates an opinion poll run by Rasmussen.

  • RightNut||

    After the last election it might...ZING!

  • StinkEye||

    "Hugo Chavez only has a 6% approval rating in America"

    Yeah, the 6% of the population with the power to shape, or at least influence policy....

  • dinkster||

    103% of all polling is utter horseshit

  • ||

    It's not a tyranny of the majority, it's just that the majority is tyrannical. See the difference?

  • ||

    I am elected by you.

    He's welcome to sign gun legislation that only applies to those who elected him.

  • hotsy totsy||

    Wasn't the Republican majority in the House also elected by "us"?

  • RightNut||

    "Obama is a pyromaniac in a field of straw men"

  • StinkEye||

    Now, if only he would immolate himself..

    /Free Tibet America..

  • The Late P Brooks||

    Yet to Obama's mind, anyone who makes such an argument is one of those "people who take absolute positions" and therefore can be safely ignored.

    Anybody who takes an absolutist stance which id different from *his* absolutist stance, anyway.

  • ||

    This guy is pure Alinsky.

  • Enough About Palin||

    ^^THIS^^

  • The Late P Brooks||

    Obama proves you don't have to be smart to get into and excel at Harvard Law School.

    Don't forget Jennifer Granholm, you sexist.

  • ||

    "Congress shall make no law..."

    "...Shall not be infringed"

    ENGLISH MOTHERFUCKER. DO YOU SPEAK IT?

  • LTC(ret) John||

    Thanks, that is a question that needs asking (but will never be answered).

  • Death Rock and Skull||

    Senators and representatives in other states and districts were not elected by me. Senators and representatives in my own state and district were not elected by me. Obama was not elected by me.

  • John||

    http://www.theatlantic.com/inf.....ad/100487/

    Here is a protest we can all get behind. NSFW

  • Tman||

    I'm all for any anti-Jihad measure ("personal internal struggle" my ass) but there are some absolutely stunning Muslim women out there who deserve more attention. And the less clothed the better, IMO.

  • John||

    Two words, Persian Women.

  • Tman||

  • John||

    Wow.

  • fish||

    Not bad! Still loves me some Catherine Bell!!

  • Ska||

    I've got a number 4 that works for me. Too bad she's the laziest fucking person on my staff and I'm firing her in two weeks.

    And I still think Catherine Bell is fucking hot as hell.

  • Enough About Palin||

    Nazanin Boniadi...

  • Restoras||

    Now I understand why Alexander wanted to conquer Persia.

  • Jon Lester||

    This is exactly why I'm committed to doing anything that I can to liberate the cultures of the predominantly Muslim world, and to destabilize theocracy, wherever it exists, both Sunni and Shi'a.

  • RightNut||

    Or in front of, as it were.

  • sarcasmic||

    Them's some angry looking topless womenz.

  • CatoTheElder||

    Best protest movement since Godiva's protest for lower taxes.

    Brilliant!

  • ||

    What can we do to get women here to protest in this fashion?

    I suspect if we just abolished all dress codes that would work even better than just trying to rile up the tits.....

    My favorite slogan there is 'fuck your morals'. I like that one. In the shot where the old fucker is kicking the girl, it is a source of shame for all of France that not one guy ran up and beat the shit out of him.

  • ||

    You say it's immoral to beat women. FUCK YOUR MORALS.

  • Jon Lester||

    You know what to expect from the average American activist, don't you? Let's just say they won't make the same impression...

  • albo||

    How about this:

    FBI creates a gun sale affidavit. One page, PDF, downloadable. It says: I certify that I am eligible to purchase a rifle/shotgun/handgun under the laws of the US and the laws of the State of ___________.

    I want to sell my sweet Winchester 75 .22 rifle. Some dude shows up to buy it. I print out the affidavit, he signs and dates it, I take it and the money. Transaction complete. I'm not at fault if he lied.

    Would that work? How about it, law-talking guys?

  • RightNut||

    Wouldn't such a affidavit require some form of identification for the gun other than the model? Like a production number or something? If so, then that creates an effective database of guns and gun owners. Which is a definite deal breaker.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    Would that work?

    Don't be ridiculous. How does that create a vast unionized federal bureaucracy capable of inexorably increasing the size and scope of its mission?

  • ||

    I've been waiting for the next person to mention "the government IS us" in context of the gun control. Couldn't have been a better person.

    If we are the government, there should be no problem with us carrying guns just like government agents, right?

  • John||

    The "government is us" is so stupidly misused. In a sense the government is society in that it is made up of people from the society and society is ultimately responsible for keeping it under control.

    But that is not how these dipshit use the term. They way they use it, government could by definition do no wrong. The language and the logic is straight out of Soviet Marxism. That is why dissidents were called "enemies of the people". The government was the people. So when someone was the enemy of the government, they were the enemy of the people.

    I am not sure if Obama is just so steeped in this shit and this sort of language he is too dumb to know any better or he is really that sinister. One thing is for sure, most of his supporters are too stupid and too poorly educated to understand what he is actually saying.

  • mr simple||

    Wasn't it the excuse Lenin gave for killing union leaders? After all, three was no more need to strike once the workers were in charge.

  • sarcasmic||

    They way they use it, government could by definition do no wrong.

    Yep. Government is us and we are government. That's why the debt doesn't matter. We owe it to ourselves. What's the big deal?
    Same with fear of government oppression. That's just silly talk from teabaggers with tin foil hats. After all, how can government oppress the people when the people are the government? Are people going to oppress themselves? Anyone who fears the government is just stupid.

  • ||

    "...most of his supporters are too stupid and too poorly educated to understand what he is actually saying."

    No. Shit.

    I have been fighting this since this sloppy cumfart showed up on the national scene.

    Me; "Listen to what he is saying. He just told you that he is going to fuck you. Here it is on video, You can hear the words come straight out of his mouth, shall I play it again for you?"

    Lefty Response;blank stare followed by continued support.

  • ||

    He loved Big Brother.

  • Enough About Palin||

    "He falsely equates "assault weapons" with military guns."

    You're a fucking idiot if you think those words aren't chosen deliberately.

  • ||

    I am constrained, as they are constrained, by a system that our Founders put in place. It's a government of and by and for the people.

    HA!

  • CatoTheElder||

    There's a 5th way: He lies.

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/.....14527.html

    I used to give presidents the benefit of the doubt when an untrue statement could be explained by irresponsible ignorance.

  • John||

    In fairness, I think he might really be so stupid that he doesn't understand the difference between a semi automatic and a fully automatic weapon.

  • fish||

    In fairness, I think he might really be so stupid that he doesn't understand the difference between a semi automatic and a fully automatic weapon.

    Indeed! I think he's capable of reaching Dianne Feinstein levels of stupidity concerning firearms and if he really applies himself representative Dianne DeGette levels!

    What the fuck is it with the name Dianne? You get a lobotomy if you're named Dianne or something?

  • StinkEye||

    "What the fuck is it with the name Dianne? You get a lobotomy if you're named Dianne or something?"

    Brain damage from tiara compression is no laughing matter...

  • fish||

    Brain damage from tiara compression is no laughing matter...

    Sez you....

  • sarcasmic||

    They're both scary looking. That's all that matters.

  • StinkEye||

    "I used to give presidents the benefit of the doubt when an untrue statement could be explained by irresponsible ignorance."

    Fuck that!, when surrounded by legions of lawyers, press secretaries, advisors, computers, and the entire library of congress, all responsible for briefing you on a daily basis... You don't get " the benefit of the doubt when an untrue statement could be explained by irresponsible ignorance", there is simply NO excuse... it is shit from a bull...

  • ant1sthenes||

    So, we shouldn't be afraid of his unconstitutional bullshit because he is constrained by the constitution? Is anyone outside of his progressive fan club really that stupid?

  • ||

    He's a person, we're the people. He could never hurt the people.

  • ||

    I am Obama and he is me. That is how I know he is looking out for my best interests.

  • SugarFree||

    See how they run like pigs from a gun, see how they fly?

  • Enough About Palin||

    I'm crying.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    I am going back to my reloading table now.

    You bastard.

    I want .45acp and I want it NOW.

  • ||

    Ammo you mean? or a new pistol?

    I have an ample supply of both. I am currently working on loading up some new 450 marlin brass.....330 grain cast lead bullets zipping along at 2300 fps..

  • StinkEye||

    .22 Hornet and .35 Remington for me...

  • Adam330||

    Little did we know that the Japanese interned during WWII actually locked themselves up? And the africans enslaved in the South actually enslaved themselves? And people forcibly sterilized by US state governments actually sterilized themselves? And Abner Louima (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abner_Louima) forcibly sodomized himself with a broomhandle?

  • ||

    Aiyona Jones shot herself. So did Oscar Grant. Kelly Thomas should have stopped hitting himself, and maybe he'd still be alive today.

  • Enough About Palin||

    "And Abner Louima (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abner_Louima) forcibly sodomized himself with a broomhandle?"

    Louima was a sick, sick bastard. Just face up to it.

  • SumpTump||

    Every once in a while you just gotta smack dat ass!

    www.GoPrivacy.tk

  • ||

    I'm so glad you're back, TiggyFoo.

  • fish||

    You guys should hang out more!

  • Enough About Palin||

    No way that's TiggyFoo.

  • LTC(ret) John||

    More like Waaminn

  • Tim||

    Obama should have said that.

  • ||

    I just picked up the Glock 19 I've been waiting for since mid-January. Shot it. Hate it. Think I'll have any trouble getting rid of this "assault pistol" (3 high capacity magazines) before I have to do a background check on the buyer?

    CB

  • Virginian||

    How much you want for it?

  • ||

    Should have went with the Walther PPQ.
    Is that a Gen 4?

  • Tejicano||

    Let me recommend you replace it with an EAA Witness in 10mm. Just a bit bigger, all steel, and a real caliber.

    Last time a guy I know at a gun shop told me they were getting some in I asked him to hold four for me. When I came in to pick them up I saw a Springfield Armory SOCOM-16 which I needed and got that too. I think he made his monthly sales quota that afternoon.

  • ||

    I remember back in 2008 among left-leaning gunowners that I knew there was this massive "gun control is a political loser and he won't push for it ever, it doesn't matter if Obama's already said he wanted to ban all semiautos, handguns and 'assault weapons' and that he thinks that localized bans on firearms are Constitutional, etc. etc. etc., because nothing will ever pass" sentiment.

    I don't know what excuses they whipped up in 2012 (probably along the lines of Romney something something rich something something war on women something something Mormon) because I've intentionally disassociated myself from people who were able to keep fully informed of every last detail of Bush's mismanagement, and talked/posted online nonstop about it, who can't seem to muster even the smallest fraction of that same energy for Obama.

  • Enough About Palin||

    They now use that energy to laud Obama with sites like "I love it when I wake up in the morning and Barack Obama is President" and whatnot.

  • Virginian||

    http://www.fee.org/the_freeman.....z2PUPph1L2

    Oldie but a goodie on the gun control.

  • Virginian||

    To all this, of course, the uplifters have a ready answer. (At having ready answers, indeed, they always shine!) The New York thugs, they say, are armed to the teeth because New Jersey and Connecticut lack Sullivan Laws. When one of them wants a revolver all he has to do is to cross the river or take a short trolley trip.

    Their arguments haven't changed in 80 fucking years.

  • ||

    Whenever I read a Mencken article I just imagine if he were still living what kind of reception his viewpoints would get at the Sun or other legacy media organs today.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    President Hollow Chocolate Bunny....sweet and tasty on the outside and empty resonant chamber underneath.

    Excellent.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    Ammo you mean? or a new pistol?

    Yes.

    I think I'll build another 1911. The first one turned out to be a happy gun, and I went the low budget route. Next time, I'll go more upscale.

  • Free Society||

    Well, the government is us. These officials are elected by you. (Applause.) They are elected by you. I am elected by you.

    You know who else was elected? Democratic power is not some holy grail of morality that makes any policy derived from majority action more moral. It's pathetic that this needs to be explained to the president.

  • Divana||

    Wow, absolutely on the money. Simple reason(pun intended) eludes this president. How does he intend to enforce the universal background check law? Even if we ignore the obvious, when did I get sucked into working for the government? I'm supposed to perform this background check how? Go to my local FFL? I truly believe that law abiding gun owners don't want nuts having guns. The question is how do I, as an individual, do the check without giving up the identity of the ultimate/legal buyer? If we(read Republicans/NRA) are going to wave the "MENTAL" flag, I think only we can come up with a method of filtering out the crazies our self. That said, I will not give up my right to own and transfer my property without the government sticking its nose in my business.

  • FreedomRocks||

    He's constrained? DAMN! What would he be capable of if he wasn't?

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  • John Galt||

    What dazzles me is that Reason hasn't filtered you out of the comments.

  • John Galt||

    1) that everyone who fails a background check is dangerous, which plainly is not true, given the ridiculously broad categories of people who are legally barred from buying firearms,..

    Taking away the all firearms all at once hasn't been a great success. Taking away the all firearms a few thousand here, a million or two there, has been incredibly successful.

    Yay!

    We're all the property of our rulers now.

  • Tejicano||

    OK, since nobody has mentioned it I will point out the iceberg floating in the path of this ship.

    Let’s say Tupla wakes up to find his wet dream was reality – we get universal background checks. So, right now we have well over 100 million guns already out there with uncertain status – no way to say if the last time one was sold was done via an FFL or not. Every last one of those guns is now a grey area gun forever.

    So this great plan is simply un-enforceable unless EVERY gun out there gets administratively connected somehow to its current owner. Once this is understood and becomes known as the “Grey Area Loophole” I would bet my left testicle that, given their past record, the gun ban circus will be pushing for full registration.

    My answer to this question of background checks and further gun bans is not “no” but “FUCK NO!”

    Via the internet slowly but surely more and more Americans are starting to understand the truth that the problem with crime is criminals, not how they dress, what they drive, or the tools they use. I have been watching this debate for the past 40 years and am amazed how far our side has come and how few people (comparatively) support gun bans (witness the dwindling support for the Brady website pre-December 2012). We need to double down, not fold and wimper.

  • OsamasPajamas||

    I like your website --- but I like Politico's 9000-character comment capacity much better. Brevity is the soul of twits. ~: )

  • Sam_Adams||

    What about We the People's mistrust of Obama?

  • izzyabby||

    I am so relieved these nice Marxist folks are running things now. I can finally sleep at night knowing they're working behind the scenes, putting my best interests ahead of theirs.

    Now that we have competent management in government, not to mention the deeply caring nature of these people, things like healthcare, global warming and our economy are finally under control.

    What a relief. And now that Californians are showing a little economic patriotism and kicking in just a little more tax, hopefully the gun problem will be solved soon for the sake of the children.

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    Since Tricky Dick Nixon, no president has been mistrusted more than Killer Barry Obama. And between them it's a tie. Stay off of their enemy list.

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