Obama's Foreign Policy Is 'dysfunctional' and 'lackluster,' Says Former Obamaite

As you ready your liver for tonight's final presidential debate, wet your whistle with this surprisingly harsh Foreign Policy piece by Rosa Brooks, a progressive former L.A. Times columnist who from 2009-2011 served as counselor to the U.S. defense undersecretary for policy. Much of Brooks' piece may read like bureaucratic score-settling, but it still serves as a withering indictment of President Barack Obama's "dysfunctional" foreign policy shop. Excerpt:

[T]o a significant extent, President Obama is the author of his own lackluster foreign policy. He was a visionary candidate, but as president, he has presided over an exceptionally dysfunctional and un-visionary national security architecture -- one that appears to drift from crisis to crisis, with little ability to look beyond the next few weeks. [...]

President Obama promised to ensure transparency and competence in government, but too often, nepotism trumps merit. Young and untried campaign aides are handed vital substantive portfolios (I could name names, but will charitably refrain, unless you buy me a drink), while those with deep expertise often find themselves sidelined. [...]

The National Security Staff operates as a tiny fiefdom. Many NSS senior directors say they speak with Tom Donilon only once or twice a year. Donilon and Deputy National Security Advisors Denis McDonough and Ben Rhodes function as gate-keepers, and even Cabinet-level officials often struggle to get direct access to the president. Some gate-keeping is necessary, of course, but this president lives in as much of an echo chamber as George W. Bush did. Add to this President Obama's even more infrequent contact with the press and his infrequent meetings with members of Congress, and you end up with debate performances like the one the president gave on October 3, in which he seemed surprised and irritated at being challenged in public.

Getting out of his bubble may not come naturally for Obama. As Neera Tanden, president of the Center for American Progress, put it in an unguarded moment, "The truth is, Obama doesn't call anyone, and he's not close to almost anyone. It's stunning that he's in politics, because he really doesn't like people."

Ouch. Nick Gillespie on Obama's foreign policy here and here.

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  • Almanian's Evil Twin||

    It's stunning that he's in politics, because he really doesn't like people.

    At last - something I have in common with our Pres!

  • Aresen||

    I like people.

    In a Soylent Green kind of a way.

  • R C Dean||

    I was saying a few days ago that I actually have quite a bit in common with the Prez:

    (1) We're both fundamentally lazy.

    (2) Neither of us have the politician's salesman's gene of really liking and being able to connect with people.

    (3) We've both gotten maximal mileage out of our credentials.

    I actually relate to Barack in some ways. Of course, there are some fundamental differences as well.

  • Paul.||

    I actually relate to Barack in some ways. Of course, there are some fundamental differences as well.

    He's cautious and you're wary?

  • R C Dean||

    Well, I was thinking that he married an in-house hospital attorney, and I am an in-house hospital attorney.

  • Paul.||

    Come work for my organization, we could use the help from someone who posts snarky comments on Reason.

    Plus then Reason will see two posters coming from our IP, and it will confuse the shit out of them.

  • R C Dean||

    Arrange an accident for your current GC, and we can talk.

  • JW||

    We're both fundamentally lazy.

    Sez the man with the Hahvahd JD. Harumph.

  • R C Dean||

    I've found that nothing has facilitated my fundamental laziness more than a platinum-plated credential.

  • ||

    When the sycophants turn on you, you're in trouble. This is shaping up to be almost interesting, except the fortunes of parasitical political scum are really only interesting in how much they are going to fuck us.

  • Paul.||

    Not sure how much these insider article influence elections.

    Put it this way... you're a schoolteacher who still has your job because Obama "saved" it. You read this article. Who you voting for?

  • rts||

  • Whiterun Guard||

    And yet the priests who also sat idly by, despite their warnings from god, are still free.

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    Win

  • LTC(ret) John||

    +1 shin bone of St. Anthony

  • Zeb||

    Holy shit. Italy really is totally fucking insane. Prison for failing to accurately predict the future?

  • Paul.||

    When society gets desperate, people start going to the gallows until morale improves. Have fun, Europe!

  • JW||

    Hmmm, I wonder how many predictions they'll get going forward?

    "Vesuvius? Etna? Who knows?"

  • Tim||

    One upside of a Romney win will be that the press suddenly rediscovers the pointless war and horrible suffering that is going on. Also drone strikes and maybe even the patriot act.

  • Sudden||

    And they'll agitate on that grounds and perhaps four years hence, Gov Cuomo wins the general election as the candidate to undo all the wars and drones and surveillance....

    And then he'll don the ring of power and forget all the promises he made to undo such and instead cling bitterly to the executive powers his predecessors assumed. And the press will again forget, will again paper over, and will again bootlick.

    Lather, rinse, repeat.

  • sarcasmic||

    See John? Matt hates Obama! Hates his guts!
    He's the worst candidate ever! Worst in the world!

    Answer the questions, John! Answer the fucking questions!

  • Almanian's Evil Twin||

    YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

  • Sudden||

    No, I merely cannot handle watching anything with Jack Nicholson post 1988.

  • Whiterun Guard||

    Mars Attacks!

  • NeonCat||

    "We still have two out of three branches of government, and that ain't bad!"

  • Calidissident||

    Haha this is great! +1

  • Almanian's Evil Twin||

    You know who else had a dysfunctional foreign policy...

  • Whiterun Guard||

    Roger Goodell?

  • Almanian's Evil Twin||

    +EU

  • ||

    Neville Chamberlain?

  • T||

    Queen Liliʻuokalani?

  • LTC(ret) John||

    Æthelred the Unready?

  • Cavpitalist||

    Me playing "Risk" after 8 beers?

  • Ayn Random Variation||

    Queen Latifa?

  • kinnath||

    "It's stunning that he's in politics, because he really doesn't like people."

    Well, Michelle does keep his penis in the freezer.

  • Ayn Random Variation||

    Being married to Hillary made me feel kind of bid for Bill, whereas being married to Worf's sister confirms the gay rumors for me.

  • db||

    I've been meaning to link to Brooks's FP article. This saves me the trouble.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    Some gate-keeping is necessary, of course

    And Valerie Jarret knows not only how much gate-keeping is appropriate, she knows which sheep to allow through.

  • Sudden||

    Given the influence that Michelle and Jarret apparently have on this administration from all accounts, I have determined something:

    If Bill Clinton was the first black president, Barack Obama is the first female president.

    To wit, Clinton is in a cultural sense blacker than Obama, and Obama is in a cultural sense more feminine than Hillary would've been.

  • Big 'Orra||

    I thought that Obama was the first gay president?

  • SugarFree||

    He is all these things, because he is merely the void staring back at you.

  • Sudden||

    RACIST!

  • SugarFree||

    It's easier to see what you want to see if there's nothing there in the first place.

    Obama is the Sarah Palin of the left.

  • Lisa||

    I thought Carter was the first female president.

  • Ayn Random Variation||

    There's a running joke between me and my black friends that I (a white guy who grew up and lives in the hood) am more black than Obama.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    in which he seemed surprised and irritated at being challenged in public.

    "What the fuck are you talking about? Of course I'm wearing clothes. I am one very snappy dresser, I'll have you know!"

  • Drake||

    "counselor to the U.S. defense undersecretary for policy"

    Who said Obama didn't create jobs?

  • LTC(ret) John||

    Those are the sort of low hanging fruit by which the DoD can not only cut its budget, but increace effectiveness.

  • Drake||

    You must be kidding - how would a LTC lead a battalion without some guidance from the counselor to the U.S. defense undersecretary for policy? You would be lost out there.

  • LTC(ret) John||

    And the environmental officer and the education policy ASD and the EEO rep and Sexual Assault Response coordinator and the USD for Reserve Affairs, etc, etc, bleah.

  • SFC B||

    OMG... you know what Brigade, if you stopped poaching all of OUR qualified SHARPs to run YOUR program I'd have an appointed SHARP at my level! AUGHHHHHHH!!!!

    Sorry LTC, this comment touched on a very raw and recently exposed nerve.

  • T||

    Thank you both for confiming the Army got dumber since I got out.

    Not that the events are in any way correlated, mind you.

  • LTC(ret) John||

    God love the US Army! You cannot win a war without the right briefings, madatory classes and bureacracy.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    Add to this President Obama's even more infrequent contact with the press and his infrequent meetings with members of Congress

    An even better question is: Does he ever have any contact with actual human beings? Ever?

  • Paul.||

    Young and untried campaign aides are handed vital substantive portfolios (I could name names, but will charitably refrain, unless you buy me a drink),

    *sits down next to Rosa*

    How you doin'?

  • Ayn Random Variation||

    OMGZ! BINDERS FULL OF YOUNG AND UNTRIED CAMPAIGN AIDES!!!

  • Tim||

    As someone else here already put it: "He just isn't that into us."

  • DoubleIPA||

    I can't recommend Reason.com to anyone because I'd be embarrassed if they read the comments section. It's especially difficult because I've shed light on libertarian ideas to a lot of people and would love to point them someplace to read more, which essentially leaves me with CATO, which is a bit drab.

    For all the fun you all have for trying to be more clever than the previous poster it just seems sad. Very little value added in the comments section and pessimism and negativity continues to reach greater heights.

    /ventingRantOver

  • sarcasmic||

    I wasn't aware that it was our duty to remain positive and serious without any attempts at humor or sarcasm.

    From now on I will be completely stoic and professorial, tailoring all of my posts to an imaginary audience of people who are curious yet ignorant of libertarian ideas.

    Thank you for schooling us.

    *hangs head in shame*

  • DoubleIPA||

    No problem. Perfect example of why my wife can't stand the comments section. It makes you guys seem more pathetic than anything else and while I understand there's a lot of really bright people, you're definitely not helping people move to the libertarian philosophy, which is the end game, right.

  • LTC(ret) John||

    Yes, thank you for directing us into the correct path, O wise one.

    Oh, wait, howzabout you sod off and take your sanctimony with you. If you have not seen quite earnest argument, debate and thrashing out of libertarian ideas in HitampersandRun postings, you aren't looking very hard.

  • DoubleIPA||

    I have seen some good hashing out and I continue to poke through the comments, but there's very little to be gained from them most of the time. I do relish the informative one's and would like to see more. If that's too much to ask then boo hoo hoo.

  • ||

    You assume too much.

    My goal is not to move anyone in a libertarian direction. My goal is to make jokes and have a good time w/ people I largely consider friends (in a weird internet-y sort of way).

  • ||

    JJ, don't you know that it's your job to move people in a libertarian direction? You are slaved to the libertarian collective and that is your purpose.

  • DoubleIPA||

    You're right, I have assumed way way way too much.

    I do my best on my spare time to give people insight in the libertarian philosophy and try to get them to read up on it in order to hopefully change their political leanings. It surprises me how many people I have met who have no idea what a libertarian is or have the wrong impression of libertarians. To that end is why I made my comment which obviously doesn't sit well with the people here.

    I may be too serious for the likes of all you, but never thought I'd get the hate on like I did, that was a surprise. These discussion boards are definitely not the place for me or will they ever be, but that holds true with most forums. I was just hoping reason would be different from places like Huffington Post or Fox News etc.

  • ||

    This is a libertarian site?

    /Long pause.

    So.

    Is your wife cute?

  • Citizen Nothing||

    This is why nobody takes libertarians seriously.

  • ||

    Huh. And here I thought it was because they weren't sophisticated enough to "get" my avante garde fecal art.

  • ||

    Oh noes, I just realized I made a poop joke! Another soul forever driven away from libertarianism!

  • Lord Humungus||

    you are truly doing god's work

  • sarcasmic||

    We're just some bored people passing the time at work.

    We're here for our entertainment, not yours.

    fuck

    Take your bitching to someone who cares.

  • MWG||

    This thread takes me back to the 'Cunt' thread with Ken... good times.

  • ||

    You're right Souble. When Postrel was in charge you could bet your sweet ass the discourse was considered pure weapons-grade debate. For a magazine called Reason...

  • Ted S.||

    Technically, it's called reason.

  • ||

    From my point of view, the Reason commentariot is part of what's drawn me in so much. I'd have certainly read Reason even if I found you guys offputting, but it's your comments that really light this place up for me. There's so much I'd have probably not been aware of if I hadn't started delving into these comments sections.

    I'm sure that not everyone shares that view, as Double's post shows. One difference is that I already considered myself a libertarian, so the same things that piss you guys off also piss me off. I never had to be convinced that the things we revile are bad. I'm not sure how other people, who don't think about those things or are only now considering libertarian thought, would take it though.

  • Ayn Random Variation||

    +1. This is the smartest and wittiest message board I've encountered, especially when you consider the lack of censorship.

  • Ayn Random Variation||

    I'd like to add "thick skinned" as well.
    This is a group of adults that can dish it and take it.
    I once, unfortunately, told someone to fuck off because he struck a nerve, and rather than report me to the authorities or cry like a bitch, he gave me a well thought out, respectful response, something amazingly unexpected for a message board. I forget it who it was, but your post was very well received.

  • sarcasmic||

    Your sarcasm detector is seriously busted.

    And if you're too thin skinned to read H-amp-R debates without encountering some feeeeeelings that you don't quite like, well then you're nothing but a fucking pussy.

    So the comments are not to you and your wife's liking. Here's my suggestion: don't read them.

    How's that?

    fuck

  • SugarFree||

    It's your fault Gary Johnson won't be elected President, sarcasmic.

  • sarcasmic||

    I know.

    It's all my fault for driving people away from the H-and-R comments section.

    For that I have single handedly stopped the erection of Gary's Johnson.

    What power I have!

    Muahahahahahaaaa!

  • Sudden||

    You have done good for this world as well, sarc. For example, it was upon your advice that I switched to an all grain homebrew this weekend. I had to scale down to 2.5 gallons in order to accomplish this via BIAB method (although I sparged on top of this in an effort to increase efficiency) but I enjoyed the process that much more.

  • sarcasmic||

    One you go all grain, you never go back.

  • Sudden||

    Yeah, now it's just a matter of getting a real all grain set up (HLT, Mash Tun, and at least 8 gallon SS stockpot since I only have 5 gallons now) so I can do five gallon batches of high gravity beers in my wheelhouse (IIPA, RIS, BW). I'll probably end up making some partial mash plus extract versions of those until I manage to get the full set up, but I'll definitely be making the transition to AG with all deliberate haste.

  • sarcasmic||

    Partial mash is good, but be sure to have enough base grain to have enough enzymes for a full conversion.

    http://beersmith.com/blog/2009.....l-mashing/

    Beersmith is a great place to browse. Brad knows his shit.

  • SugarFree||

    I sparged on top of this in an effort to increase efficiency

    Ewwwwww.

  • Sudden||

    What he needs to realize is that we joke and post comments that are the height of snark due to our bitterness at the reality of the current political system. I would think that someone names doubleIPA would be able to understand feeling bitter.

  • ||

    Who gives a fuck what some concern troll thinks?

  • ||

    It was too rich. I think it's a regular spoofing. You know, the whole Ken Shultz, "If you guys stopped saying 'cunt' so much there would be more women libertarians!"

  • T||

    Which always amuses me, because the wife is far quicker to throw out that word than I am.

  • DoubleIPA||

    So defensive....

    boo hoo hoo

  • sarcasmic||

    Humorless pussy is humorless.

  • DoubleIPA||

    So easy to call someone a pussy online, tough guy.

  • T||

    So easy to call someone a tough guy, pussy.

  • sarcasmic||

    Just my observation based upon your obvious emotional distress at having to read snarky comments that were not full of the proper amount of seriousness and positive optimism.

    I can understand a comments section getting someone worked up a bit. Take policeone for example. Those comments make my blood boil. But that's only because these are fucksticks with the power to kill me if I look at them wrong on a bad day.

    Libertarians are powerless, so there's no need to let the comments get you and your wife's panties twisted into a Gordian knot.

    pussy

  • DoubleIPA||

    You've proven my point so well that I'm amazed. Look how many comments I garnered. Funny how libertarians love to brow beat liberals over their inability to be openminded and I have one little rant and the entire forum jumps on the bandwagon of not being able to tolerate a guy that doesn't appreciate their snarkiness as much as them.

  • sarcasmic||

    You came in here and basically said

    "Hey guys! You're commenting wrong. Let me tell you how to properly comment in order to please people like me, because the way you do it now is offensive to my thin-skinned ass and my thin-skinned wife! Please change the way you comment because pussies like me can't handle it! Waaah! You're doing it again! Waaaah! Please stop! Waah!"

    and what the fuck did you expect?

    Sympathy?

    Go find it in the dictionary. It's between shit and syphilis.

    fuck

  • Loki||

    Anyone who can be driven away from libertarian philosophy because of a few comments from random strangers on a libertarian blog probably isn't really that interested in libertarian philosophy to begin with. Besides, try reading the comments on Daily Kos or Huff-Post or any other political website from literally any philosphical angle. The comments here certainly aren't any more juvenile than some the shit people post on every other site on the internet.

  • DoubleIPA||

    You missed the point. People wont be driven away from the philosophy they'll be driven away from joining the discussion because it lacks substance. That's where I think the discussion can add a ton of value.

    If

  • JW||

    they'll be driven away from joining the discussion because it lacks substance.

    To which you've added so much.

  • DoubleIPA||

    Right cause I now have the pleasure of reading how much people hate that idea.

  • JW||

    You just don't get it, do you?

    If you want serious discussion, then, by all means, offer some up.

    Or, just continue to be a whiny and petulant little bitch.

  • Loki||

    ...And by extension how much they hate you.

  • DEA||

    The bulk of people that read the site are not the crowd that frequents the comments section.

  • R C Dean||

    which essentially leaves me with CATO, which is a bit drab.

    Seems like drab is what you want.

    Here's a tip: nothing draws eyeballs like humor (well, except pictures of pretty ladies, of course, but we're talking a comments section which specifically prohibits us from posting pix, for some reason).

    Any unmoderated comments section is going to require some threshing of wheat from chaff. This one, at least, gives you some lulz to go with the trollz.

  • DoubleIPA||

    I just get tired of the same sarcastic rants over and over. I'm not saying there shouldn't be humor, it just seems to be nothing but humor and sarcasm is the lowest form. It was just a rant and I don't care if you don't like it.

  • Sudden||

    I'd suggest you recommend and link to reason articles still. Should your wife, friends, or anyone else mention the vulgarity and dismissiveness of the comment section, simply forward a Huffpo story on the same topic and advise the offended party to compare comments sections. They'll likely find those areas to be just as vulgar, far less informed, and starved for any critical analysis.

  • sarcasmic||

    I just get tired of the same sanctimonious complaints over and over. I'm not saying there should be complaints, it just seems to be nothing but whining and sanctimonious is the lowest form. It was just a rant and I don't care if you don't like it.

  • ||

    Concern troll is bitterly concerned.

  • JW||

    "I want you to give me more of what I want, with no effort on my part whatsoever!"

  • R C Dean||

    I just get tired of the same sarcastic rants over and over.

    My mouse has a scroll wheel for just those occasions.

  • ||

    Are you sure you're not liberal?

  • Sudden||

    I can't recommend Reason.com to anyone because I'd be embarrassed if they read the comments section.

    If comments sections are the barometer through which you decide what to recommend or not, I take it you've never sent a link to anyone of anything on the internet that allows comments.

    Seriously, while we have our juvenile fun at times within our chambers, there are serious discussions interspersed within it all. This is a forum where the no true Scotsman test is alive and well. There is significant range in opinions of foreign policy, abortion, immigration and many other areas. And while snark may be our language of choice (consider it a defense mechanism, whereby we must attempt humor in order to not cry and tremble with rage at the very unlibertarian direction of policy in this country), you will often find embedded within all that snark some very keen observations.

  • DoubleIPA||

    You make a good point with regards to the barometer. I normally just copy and paste the articles in an email so people don't end up reading the comments. That being said most people I know have stopped reading comment sections. So perhaps there's nothing to worry about.

    "consider it a defense mechanism, whereby we must attempt humor in order to not cry and tremble with rage at the very unlibertarian direction of policy in this country" ok... This was funny and puts some light on the situation because that's how I feel most of the time.

    Love to see more observations less snarkiness. That's what I come for.

    Just my 2¢.

  • ||

    ...and no one cares.

  • DoubleIPA||

    Right you're too busy typing with one hand while reading your own comments and flavoring your coffee with your own goo from the other.

    Is that better?

  • Citizen Nothing||

    See. That just makes no sense, 'cause how'd you hold the coffee?

  • SugarFree||

    'cause how'd you hold the coffee?

    Between your knees, idiot. For fuck's sake, it's like some of you learned nothing at all in kindergarten.

  • T||

    In my defense, I was pretty high at the time.

  • Loki||

    Is that better?

    Good! Now release your sarcasm! Only your sardonic wit can destroy me!

  • ||

    A step in the right direction, but needs refining. 7.5/10 with the East German judge protesting.

  • ||

    In HitampersandRun's defense, it probably has the only comment section I read regularly. I normally peruse comments after specific articles at other sites, but I never post anything, and I don't stay long.

  • ||

    You mean...no one will read my witty comments?

    Meh.

    Ok. Betty or Veronica? Betty or Wilma? Who would you do?

  • Jordan||

    Try Mises.org. Also, concern troll is concerned.

  • ||

    I stopped reasing Mises.org when I noticed literally 1/3 of the articles devolve into "scientific" racism.

    There is an entire contengent of regular posters there who sincerely believe that the closer to the equator a people hail from, the lower their average cranial capacity, and that all of the non-northern European races are inherently inferior.

  • ||

    Wait, seriously? That's fucked up.

  • ||

    What, are you sad they didn't like you at Grylliade either?

  • Lord Humungus||

    I found Reason through Instapundit.

    I stayed because of the snarky comments. The humor struck a chord with me. I also learned (and changed) my political viewpoint because of them - thanks to the lefty trolls and the reasoned replies of our commentators.

  • ||

    I thought you stayed because of our stash of gasoline...

  • Lord Humungus||

    well...

  • ||

    JUST WALK AWAY

  • DoubleIPA||

    I changed a lot of my views as well, but it was definitely from articles as opposed to comments. I used to be a republican and conservative on social issues, but not anymore.

    Funny the hate for just asking for more substance.

  • Citizen Nothing||

    Not hate, DIPA. Just a bit of contempt among friends. You may be a humorless boil, but you're our humorless boil.

  • ||

    Your humorless boil. You can claim her if you like. I have enough boils, thank you very much.

  • Citizen Nothing||

    I figured what's one more boil, more or less?

  • Lord Humungus||

    I too was a so-con leaning republican. But Reason is one of the few sites where I learn and laugh at the same time. It has kept me gripped ever since and if there is some part of a thread that doesn't interest me, then the scroll wheel comes in handy.

  • ||

    Reason... learn and laugh!

    I like it. Nick, Matt, new ad campaign right there. Kennedy could shoot a promo.

  • R C Dean||

    It has kept me gripped ever since

    What browser are you using? Because it sounds like mine definitely needs an upgrade.

  • DoubleIPA||

    I wish they had comment voting. That way you all could have voted me into oblivion. I'm sticking around to take my punishment.

  • ||

    I wish we had comment voting too. I don't know about the others, but I'd have upvoted some of your comments. Not everyone chooses to reply to everything.

  • ||

    I bet you and your wife are hoot at parties!

  • ||

    They don't go to parties because of the lack of serious discussion usually found there.

    There's all kinds of drinking and game-playing, and absolutely no one discussing the Great Issues of our day from a libertarian perspective. It's worse than the Holocaust.

  • Ted S.||

    Awwww, concern troll is concerned.

    I just tell people in advance that the comment section can get raunchy and obscene. Then again, the people I know like raunchy and obscene.

  • Lisa||

    What would you consider to be a respectable comment section on the internet?

  • Jack the Reaper||

    I would consider this a respectable comments section. In spite of the occasional/frequent offensive remarks by some people who think the 1st amendment was written just for them (the nerve!) I let it slide off. It was offensive to me and that is my problem, not theirs.

    In the end, I've been perusing online sites since I had a 300 baud acoustic coupler modem and had a couple of BBS' I frequented. I have found for years that the comments at HyR have more substance and grit than any other site I've ever visited. I can't stand the comments sections anywhere else.

    Now, get off my lawn!

  • DEA||

    I agree with Double. Of course no one besides Reason should be dictating what is allowed in the comments section, but this place is a locker room. It's an echo chamber and the usual response to contrarian opinions is branding them a troll and slander.

    I usually stay out of the comments section, but I read the site every day and so sometimes wind up here, like to see why a newly published article has over 100 comments. Behold, about half are people slandering Double for being disappointed at the level of discourse here.

    I remember when I last donated to Reason, they had a questionnaire, asking what they thought should be done with the comments section. I went with the default libertarian position, let everyone comment however they wish. A year later, I see the value in the site overseers putting most of you in timeout.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    Arrange an accident for your current GC, and we can talk.

    Stairs kill more people each year than jilted lovers.

  • LTC(ret) John||

    But how many jilted lovers pushed people down stairs?

  • SugarFree||

    Pushing people down the stairs?

    Is someone pregnant?

  • LTC(ret) John||

    Apparently a jilted lover might be.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    For all the fun you all have for trying to be more clever than the previous poster it just seems sad. Very little value added in the comments section and pessimism and negativity continues to reach greater heights.

    Sweet- another humorless boring douchebag come to show us the error of our ways.

  • SugarFree||

    Even if we were the way he wanted, an equal amount of complaining would take place that we were humorless gits obsessed with being dour.

    Complaining is a steady state. The same amount of complaining occurs no matter what, only the subject changes.

  • JW||

    Isn't this why we have Tulpa?

  • Citizen Nothing||

    I agree, JW. That ecological niche is already taken

  • ||

    We don't have Tulpa. Tulpa has us.

  • JW||

    More to the point, we has a Tulpa.

  • R C Dean||

    The same amount of complaining occurs no matter what, only the subject changes.

    Yes, the hydraulic nature of complaining. Cut off one avenue, and it will find, and fill, another.

  • Ted S.||

    Blog comments and complaining will always find each other. Isn't there an iron law about this or something?

  • The Late P Brooks||

    It makes you guys seem more pathetic than anything else

    Say the guy who lets his wife tell him what he can read.

  • Cavpitalist||

    This one was sufficient.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    Obama is the Sarah Palin of the left.

    "Now, that's just mean."

  • Loki||

    he seemed surprised and irritated at being challenged in public... "The truth is, Obama doesn't call anyone, and he's not close to almost anyone. It's stunning that he's in politics, because he really doesn't like people."

    Not really suprising. Most egotistical assholes will surroung themselves with petty yes-men, don't like being challenged in public, and don't like people. Especially people who think they are inferior, which in Obama's case is most likely everyone.

  • sarcasmic||

    Obama's a libertarian?

  • Loki||

    Funny, that last sentence should have read "Especially people who they think are inferior..." Which would make Obama a statist, not a libertarian (since statist think they're better than everyone else, especially us libertarian Aspies). Dislexlia strikes again.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    you're definitely not helping people move to the libertarian philosophy, which is the end game, right.

    I gave up. I listen to a seemingly unending string of crypto-communist complaints about kkkorporations, private property, Teh UNFETTERD CAPITALISMS, horrible horrible freedom, and whatever the fuck else. as I put it earlier, it's like listening to a bunch of little children huddled around a campfire telling each other scary monster stories about all the horrible things the other TEAM has in store for them; and if the dreaded libertarians ever get to run the place, the only sensible course of action for poor little Hansel and Gretel will be to just go ahead and GET IN THE OVEN!

    I just need another fifteen years or so of anonymity, unregistered handguns and drinking.

  • ||

    don't ever give up. STIFF UPPER LIP, MAN!!!

  • Loki||

    ^THIS^ The douchey condescending proto-socialist fuckwits have made stop really giving a shit about "helping people move to the libertarian philosophy" or whatever. Fuck them all, I don't give a shit anymore.

  • The Late P Brooks||

    We're here for our entertainment, not yours.

    THIS IS WHY NOBODY TAKES LIBERTARIANS US SERIOUSLY

  • LTC(ret) John||

    I haven't taken myself seriously for years. Why start here or now?

  • JW||

    I gave up.

    This. I have better things to do with my time than to interact with people who's only intention is to froth, mouth-wise, and parrot the echo of the conventional wisdom.

  • sarcasmic||

    Reasoning with people who only know how to emote is a waste of time and energy.

  • ||

    Calculon: Everyone walked out. They hated it. I've seen plagues that had better opening nights than this. You said that Oscar was practically on my mantel.

    Bender: Now you know why I use the qualifier, "practically".

    Calculon: You listen to me. I'm out a million bucks here! You get me that Oscar or you're dead! You and these snivelling lobsters! Dead. You hear me? Dead!

    [Bender and Zoidberg huddle together. Calculon leaves.]

    Zoid: Oy, now he emotes!

  • ||

    "I only pray they like me half as much as I do."

  • ||

    "Nice work, Boiler!"

  • ||

    "Look, I'm programmed to be very busy. Unless you can heat water to 212 degrees, I'm not interested."

  • ||

    "Oh, what an appallingly ironic outcome!"
    "It's not ironic, it's just coincidental."

  • ||

    GOOD EXAMPLE of situation where shooting in the back andor while fleeing is entirely justified.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related

  • ||

  • ||

    hans shot him straight up. no shootin' in the back, there!

  • Ayn Random Variation||

    I have no sympathy for the idiots who bought into the no more wars/transparency/civil liberties loving/hope and change crap.

  • ||

    sometimes you tackle somebody with a knife and this happens...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....ure=relmfu

  • fishfry||

    The debate is on opposite Monday Night Football and the Giants/Cards 7th game NLCS. I'm going to have to miss watching these two bozo candidates argue about who can start more wars while cutting more taxes.

  • nike001||

    One hour we do not speak. I thought a lot. Finally, still feel like saying it's the fox is not possible, we Cheap Football Cleats can not find evidence that the gray-haired woman does not show fox, but no evidence, just to prove that the fox can transform himself into a cheap ugg boots for women white-haired woman. And to compare with each other, or scientific concepts prevail.

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