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  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    Fistola!

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    Actually I meant Fistula!

  • WTF||

    A fifteen-year-old honor student in Brooklyn spent three hours handcuffed to a bench at a police station after being mistaken for a shoplifting suspect and roughed up by cops.

    "Fuck you, that's why."

  • ||

    not really. but don't let facts get in the way

  • Randian||

    Care to cite to facts in contravention to the assertion then? Because AFAICT, they were arrested because they fit a bare-bones description of suspects. What was the probable cause for arrest? Given the pervasiveness of 'stop-and-frisk' in NYC, why wasn't that done first?

  • General Butt Naked||

    PROCEDURES WERE FOLLOWED

    15 YEAR OLD GIRLS CAN BE TOUGH

    STOP BEING A BIGOT

    I HAVE SEEN OTHERWISE

  • Randian||

    Seriously, it was 3:45 on a school day. St. Saviour is ONE BLOCK from Propsect Park...and it doesn't even enter these two dipshits' mind that these two girls may be walking home from school.

  • Ice Nine||

    And we all know that two girls walking home from school could ever shoplift.

  • Randian||

    That isn't the point. Anyone can be a shoplifter. The point is that at that time, when school lets out, the area would be rife with children, some of them (heaven forfend!) black girls who are friends who walk home (or, in this case, to the library) from school together.

  • Randian||

    I mean, by your logic, because anyone can be a shoplifter, a bare-bones accusation and description makes the entire area open season for arrest.

  • Restoras||

    Mayor Bloomberg has a job for you frisking every black and Latino teenager in the city - just because.

  • Randian||

    But, Restoras, people shoplift...uh....sometimes! And, uh...they're black! So go get 'em, tiger!

  • Ice Nine||

    And some of them shoplift on the way. It is the point.

  • Randian||

    So all schoolgirl pairs who fit the description are subject to arrest? Without further investigation?

    "Uh, yeah, we got two white males, teenagers, wearing school uniforms who are suspected of shoplifting. Let's go out there and harass every group of people who fit the description."

    The police didn't even stop them to ask questions. They didn't even investigate at all until after the arrest.

  • ||

    jesus christ. even this (devoid of enough case facts) article claims that the STORE MANAGER identified her. iow, that says to me that AFTER THE DETENTION, THE STORE MANAGER SAID "YES, THAT'S THE ONE"

    it was obviously a bad id.

    but it's pretty clearly probable cause based on similarity to original description, store manager saying she was the same girl who had shoplifted, etc.

    and due to the contemporaneous nature of the detention, no 'show up' was necessary.

    again, it was a bad result, but it doesn't follow it was a bad arrest iow made w.o PC.

  • Ice Nine||

    Care to cite to facts in contravention to the assertion then? Because AFAICT, they were arrested because they fit a bare-bones description of suspects. What was the probable cause for arrest?

    “They had no proof, just a description of a black young lady with braids,” (her father) added.

    Since when was "proof" a prerequisite for detaining a suspect? Proof is what we do in court, Dad.

    “It wasn’t necessary to tackle a 15-year-old girl. It was excessive.”

    She ran from cops; she got tackled. Count on it happening every time, Dad - guilty or not guilty. I don't know cop stuff but I'm pretty sure that is legal grounds for being detained while a crime is being investigated.

  • Randian||

    They were plainclothes police in an unmarked car who said "Get them". What kind of world do you want to live in where random men can yell "get them!" and we expect young women not to obey their survival instincts?

    Since when was "proof" a prerequisite for detaining a suspect? Proof is what we do in court, Dad.

    You at least need specific, articulable facts. This description doesn't even come close.

  • Zeb||

    It just seems insane to have plainclothes officers pick people up off the street. It's one thing if they have a warrant, but it is totally insane to expect people to stop for any random dude who yells "stop, police" or "get them".

  • Brett L||

    Especially teenage girls. I am definitely NOT training my daughters to go with any random dude who flashes a badge and claims to be a cop.

  • mr simple||

    Fuck off, slaver.

  • Randian||

    ^ THIS

  • Citizen Nothing||

    This is why nobody takes libertarians seriously.

  • ||

    even the fucking article says that she was identified as the shopifter by store manager
    WRONGLY, obviously, but in accordance with the rest, that establishes PC.

    RTFA

  • WTF||

    An NYPD official insists the incident was good police work

    Procedures were followed. Innocent girls were assaulted. Nothing to see here.

  • General Butt Naked||

    Oh dang.

  • Restoras||

    What are the facts that would absolve the officers involved, aside from the fact that they are cops?

  • Ice Nine||

    Not really indeed. I hate most of the asshole cop stories we read here as much as anyone else but someone's going to have to explain to me what was wrong with this bust because it seems pretty straightforward and justified to me - and kind of a stretch to be worthy of mention here. She fit the description, she ran, the cops reacted in kind. Well, OK, we all know they didn't say "Excuse me ladies" but otherwise...

  • Randian||

    Two black girls is sufficient description for you? "Ah, well, they were two black girls in Prospect Park, ergo...probable cause!"

    What a fucking joke.

  • Ice Nine||

    Yeah, maybe. But two black girls, one with braids certainly is sufficient. You forgot that part; you're trying a little to hard to be indignant.

    What a fucking joke.

  • Randian||

    But two black girls, one with braids certainly is sufficient. You forgot that part; you're trying a little to hard to be indignant.

    The description said this:

    A description of the suspects was broadcast by police at 3:44 p.m. — two female black teens, dark hair, one had a ponytail, police said.

    Is a ponytail the same as braids? In viewing whether there was a probable cause for arrest, you have to take the full circumstances into account. The school is one block from the street where the girls were picked up. It was 3:45 on a school day - when a lot of NY kids are walking home. The only description was 'two black teens girls' and 'ponytail'. I guess that makes any duo of black girlfriends fair game for the NYPD thugs.

    You're way out of your element here. Do you think that 'two black males, one wearing tennis shoes' is a sufficient description to violently arrest any pair of black males walking in Park Slope?

  • Ice Nine||

    Is a ponytail the same as braids?

    Uh, that's braids "tied together". You'd need to get a hairdresser to make that call, not me - or a cop.

  • Randian||

    Young women with their hair pulled back. How overwhelmingly rare.

    "We got two white teens, male, one with brown hair."

    That description applies to so many people that it's ridiculous you think it constitutes probable cause for an arrest.

  • Ice Nine||

    RTFA. They didn't say "young women with their hair pulled back"; you made that up. You're trying too hard on this one and it glares. So, I'm out. Ciao.

  • Randian||

    That's what a ponytail is, you screaming moron.

    "A ponytail is a hairstyle in which most or all of the hair on the head is pulled away from the face"

  • Ice Nine||

    So that makes this a ponytail then, I guess.

    There are times to call someone a "screaming moron" and times to not do that. For you, this is one of those times not to.

  • Randian||

    This is absolutely incredible. The shopkeeper said one of the girls had a ponytail. You said that was a sufficient description to support probable cause to arrest two black girls when one has her hair pulled back into braids. I pointed out that young women have their hair pulled back all the time and this is not a good enough piece of evidence to warrant an arrest, and you want to go to the mat over hairstyles?

    The bare description is "two black teen girls, one with a ponytail". That is not enough to harass and arrest every pair of black girls in the city, because a pulled back hairstyle is very common.

  • mr simple||

    The description in the article clearly said "one with ponytail." That's coming from the police. Maybe you should reread the article.

  • Zeb||

    Yeah, it's really rare to see a black girl with braids in NYC.

  • Restoras||

    And they "ran"! C'mon, that's practically an admission of guilt!

    I don't really think they ran - I find it hard to beleive that one of the multitude of fat cops I see everyday in NYC could catch a cold, much less a teenage human being.

  • SugarFree||

    "Excuse me, Ladies."

    Biggest goddamn laugh I'm going to have this month.

  • Ice Nine||

    too

  • sarcasmic||

    That comment makes you look fat.

  • Rrabbit||

    The NYPD states that procedures were followed when all 47,000 back women age 14-22 were arrested on May 23 for being a shoplifting suspect.

  • db||

    Hey, a 13 year old female shoplifter brutally beat a store clerk at the Monroeville Mall last week. You can't be too careful.

    /sarc

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    A fifteen-year-old honor student in Brooklyn spent three hours handcuffed to a bench at a police station after being mistaken for a shoplifting suspect and roughed up by cops.

    The bench has since received corrective training.

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    Ed, you SF'd the San Diego link.

  • sarcasmic||

    You do not have permission to access the administrative interface

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    A better error message would have been:

    Just what do you think you're doing, Dave?

  • sarcasmic||

    Dave's not here, man.

  • Lord Humungus||

    Nobody Called Jimmy Carter a 'Vampire'
    Since 1984, every Democratic presidential nominee has been an attorney or a career politician.
    http://online.wsj.com/article/.....7758.html#

  • robc||

    Carter was a career politician too, so that takes it back to 1976 at least.

  • Apple||

    McGovern, Humphrey, Johnson, Kennedy, Truman, FDR, etc...

    Aren't pretty much all major party presidential candidates career polititians?

  • Lord Humungus||

    How the Recovery Went Wrong
    Of the 11 recoveries in the last 60 years, this one is at or near the bottom in job growth and every other economic indicator.
    http://online.wsj.com/article/.....on_LEADTop

  • SugarFree||

  • WTF||

    So, I assume they'll be getting the DNA from hiker's butts?

  • Lord Humungus||

    Protecting our Catholic conscience in the public square
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....ml?hpid=z2

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    Unfortunately for the Catholic Church, they've burnt all of their goodwill on a pyre of molested altar boys. A public relations attempt by them isn't going to achieve anything until they start atoning for their sins.

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    They prosecuted and punished Judas priests who were immune from prosecution in secular courts. It's delayed justice, but it's still justice.

    They should have fired the offending bishops, too, of course, but they're letting these sixties bishops age out and replacing them with a better crop.

    And I agree with those who claim that until the Catholic scandals, people in the establishment were getting ready to promote an easygoing attitude to child sexual abuse. The usefulness of Catholic-bashing put that project on ice, although you see it in Europe with the sheltering of Roman Polanski from justice.

  • Zeb||

    And I agree with those who claim that until the Catholic scandals, people in the establishment were getting ready to promote an easygoing attitude to child sexual abuse.

    Who are those people exactly?

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    "How pedophilia lost its cool" - documents how, before (say) 2002, many journals and associations of progressive opinion had surprisingly sympathetic coverage of child sex abuse. But then they changed their minds. Why?

    "So what happened to turn yesterday’s 'intergenerational sex' into today’s bipartisan demands to hang Roman Polanski and related offenders high? Mainly, it appears, what happened was something unexpected and momentous: the Catholic priest scandals of the early years of this decade..."

    http://www.firstthings.com/art.....t-its-cool

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    Gee, police unions versus administration, hard to feel bad for either of them.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    He said the Citizens’ Review Board on Police Practices is already addressing some of the concerns, including holding a meeting about decorum and re-opening the pool of prospective members to recruit diverse candidates.

    They're reaching out to sheriff's deputies, corrections officers, prosecutors and retired LEO.

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    The board, established in 1988, typically reviews investigative reports already completed by the Police Department’s internal affairs unit and ultimately agrees or disagrees with the findings. The board is not authorized to conduct its own investigations nor does it have direct access to people making complaints, witnesses or officers involved in the cases.

    In other words, it's a rubberstamp organization with no teeth by design. Even if they open up membership changes, it won't accomplish anything. They should just disband the thing.

  • Randian||

    Mayor Bloomberg thinks the federal government should force cities to take in immigrants. "[T]hat’s the only solution for these big, hollowed-out cities where industry has left and is never going to come back unless you get some people to move there," he said.

    It sounds like a really good idea to take people who need acclimated to American life, and who probably have a tenuous grasp on English at best, to throw them into a dead city in isolation with other immigrants and the urban poor who inhabit Detroit now.

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    Bloomberg is now an official nutcase.

  • DJF||

    But he is only going to force non-smoking, non-fatty food immigrants on them.

  • WTF||

    Only now?

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    Before this he was just an overbearing mother figure. Now he's jumped the shark.

  • Randian||

    On first blush, it isn't the worst thing I have ever heard. It just falls apart with two seconds of thought. It reminds me of the time Carty Finkbeiner (mayor of Toledo) said that they should move deaf people out by the airport. It makes a certain amount of perverse sense, but this is America. Goddamn if people don't forget that sometimes.

  • DJF||

    But the big problem is that once many of the immigrants see Detroit they will be on the first bus to the suburbs.

    However Mayor Blumberg will have a solution, tracking devices which will also monitor smoking and fatty food. This will keep them in line and on the plantation.

  • Bobarian||

    'first bus to the suburbs'...

    or the home country.

  • ant1sthenes||

    Well, it focus tested better than "we should turn Detroit into a concentration camp for immigrants."

  • Restoras||

    Not too mention there aren't any, you know, JOBS! in Detroit these days. What a fucking imbecile.

  • Bardas Phocas||

    I could see this working, minus the whole "force" part, if you added sweeping deregulation and de-taxification of those hollowed out cities. Then immigrants (and maybe even White People!), wanting a piece of the American pie, would flock to those cities. Build businesses and industries, create wealth.

    But that's not what he wants. He wants tax serfs to populate the wastelands that his preferred policies have made those cities.

  • sarcasmic||

    Bill Clinton hangs out with porn stars.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....onaco.html

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    How does Billy Zane get into these things? Wasn't his career over about a decade ago?

  • Mike M.||

    Haven't we all known this for almost twenty years or so now?

  • ||

    this disgusts me. Don't porn stars know they are role models?

  • mr simple||

    Wow, I don't think she's an attractive woman, but could they have found a less flattering picture of Monica Lewinsky?

  • JW||

    Looks to me that Bubba is happier than a pig in shit, being in his natural element.

    I also see that Monica has completed her metamorphosis into Mrs. Ed.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Police Chief Bill Lansdowne said he supports the board and how the mayor’s office runs the program.

    RED FLAG.

  • sarcasmic||

    "Mother's fury after teacher's aide tries to pull out autistic son's wobbly tooth... but takes out the WRONG one by mistake"

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....-aide.html

    My favorite part:

    The schools' superintendent said an investigation was under way but no disciplinary action had yet been taken.

  • VG Zaytsev||

    WTF???

  • sarcasmic||

    Model I've never heard of looks nice basking in the sun.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvs.....annes.html

  • Restoras||

    That's a nice addition!

  • robc||

    Weird, they blurred the nipples in picture 4, but not in 2.

  • Bobarian||

    Weird, the link doesn't work anymore.

  • mr simple||

    This time she wore a hot pink bikini and shielded the sun from her face in a large wide-brimmed beach hat smiling the gap-toothed grin she has become famous for.
    On her distinctive feature, the model said in an interview with Vogue UK: 'It wasn't until I got older that I really got comfortable with it
    .

    Do they not have corrective dental practices in Australia?

  • ||

    Yes but it's limited to a punch in the mouth and an ice-cold tinnie for the pain

  • sarcasmic||

    Briton's beach volleyball team looks very British (John would fuck them all).

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/fem.....quare.html

  • Mike M.||

    Aetna, I'm glad I met ya.

  • John||

    The one the far right is very cute. The rest not so much.

  • Randian||

    What about the far left one? Am I missing something here?

  • John||

    She is young and has a nice figure. The teeth though. But yeah, I wouldn't turn her down.

  • Randian||

    The teeth seem fine to me. The commentariat goes nuts for Jessica Paré, so I don't see the problem.

  • SugarFree||

    Jessica Paré has teeth?!?

  • Jerry||

    Don't all of them have to play at the net, how is that going to work out?

  • Hell's Librarian||

    Meh. There's only one of them that looks even slightly chunky, and she only looks chunky via probably having had a kid.

    I'm not saying I'd go gay for any of them (Salma has that honor for me), but they are all quite attractive.

  • John||

    Good for you for going gay with a feminine woman. I really don't get women who go for other girls who look like guys with boobs. What is the point?

  • Zeb||

    That's something I've often wondered about lesbian couples where there is an obvious femme and butch. If you are into women, why do you go for women who look like men?

  • sarcasmic||

    Are the into women, or do they just hate men?

  • Bobarian||

    I believe the answer is 'yes'.

  • Restoras||

    Looks more like the East German squad.

  • Atanarjuat||

    I rarely say this, but those beach volleyball chicks need to wear less revealing clothing.

  • Restoras||

    Seriously. It's the figure skaters that need to wear more revealing clothing.

  • Mo' $parky||

    You think one day they'll decided that the Greeks who invented the Olympics had the right idea and just start going naked?

  • sarcasmic||

    Not while American Puritanical prudes have any say.

  • Mike M.||

    Mayor Bloomberg thinks the federal government should force cities to take in immigrants. “[T]hat’s the only solution for these big, hollowed-out cities where industry has left and is never going to come back unless you get some people to move there,” he said.

    Hey dummy, how about we get some actual jobs first? Try taking a look at the percentage of Americans who are working: it's the lowest it has been in about thirty years, and declining. Fucking moron.

  • ||

    MMA fighter accused of ripping out his friend's still-beating heart and removing the man's tongue and skin while still alive. Now, this DID NOT happen in the Octagon, so he is being charged. No word on whether the guy tried to tap out:

    http://msn.foxsports.com/ufc/s.....d=todfox11

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    According to witnesses, the two had ingested hallucinogenic mushrooms and believed they were part of a struggle between God and the devil.

    Lesson for the children: Never combine hallucinogens with an overbearing sense of importance, bloodlust, and martial arts skills

  • ||

    Lesson for the children: Never combine hallucinogens with an overbearing sense of importance, bloodlust, and martial arts skills

    Jesus, Scruffy! Have a heart!

  • NeonCat||

    Doesn't sound like Psilocybin mushrooms, sounds more like Fly Agaric. I hope so, anyway.

  • Mo' $parky||

    FINISH HIM!

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    now that's funny

  • db||

    +1

  • db||

    That was pretty fuckin' trippy.

  • ||

    That was pretty fuckin' trippy.

    Imagine . . . the very last thing you see in life is your still-beating heart, clutched in the bloody hand of your best friend - and you're trippin' balls.

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

  • ||

    http://www.fearnet.com/eol_ima.....a-ram1.jpg

    UFC would be SO much better if the fighters could wear that into the Octagon.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    MMA fighter accused of ripping out his friend's still-beating heart and removing the man's tongue and skin while still alive.

    In that order?

  • ||

    In that order?

    Very good question. I'm starting to think there are pieces missing from this story.

  • db||

    Not to mention the victim.

  • SugarFree||

    Yet another retarded drugs-made-me-do-it story.

    "We have to switch to .38s to stop stoned Negros with superpowers from raping white wimmins."

    "He was probably on PCP. Broke every bone in his hand and wouldn't feel it for hours. There was this guy once, you see this scar?"

    "Baby, you know I only hit you because of the whiskey."

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    "Get out of here, Dewey. You don't want no part of this shit."

  • ||

    +1

  • Ice Nine||

    MMA fighter accused of ripping out his friend's still-beating heart and removing the man's tongue and skin while still alive.

    Was he Brazilian? Those guys do some real innovative MMA shit.

  • ||

    Those guys do some real innovative MMA shit.

    I'm reminded of the fantasy sequence from Dumb Dumber in which Jim Carrey rips out the chef's heart, wraps it neatly in a doggy bag, then hands it to the guy. Now THAT was innovative.

  • Ice Nine||

    It was certainly considerate.

  • ||

  • Bee Tagger||

    I haven't clicked on this yet, but I assume it's the SPLC website.

  • ||

    You assume wrongly

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    The headline has the UK written all over it.

  • ||

    You know, calling a young child a racist is a lot like calling them an illiterate if they don't read at the same level as an older child.

    It's true that at some point you can expect some level of responsible behavior from children but very young ones tend to be tactless and direct. Not to mention that the questions can indicate a desire to be informed.

    Way to dash a little kids dreams. Punish them for innocent curiosity.

  • Rich||

    Elliott Dearlove asked a five-year-old boy in the playground whether he was 'brown because he was from Africa'. His mother, Hayley White, 29, was contacted by her son's school saying he had been at the centre of a 'racist incident'.

    Is his mother's name "White" because she's not from Africa?

  • db||

  • Randian||

    There has to be life there.

  • SugarFree||

    What part of "ALL THESE WORLDS ARE YOURS—EXCEPT EUROPA. ATTEMPT NO LANDINGS THERE." don't you people get?

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    Dude, it seems a little arbitrary to me

  • SugarFree||

    Dude, you fuck with the Golden Rectangle, you get the horns.

  • db||

    Fuck you, universal powers, that's why!

  • robc||

    Life?

    Solution to water shortage on Earth.

  • Zeb||

    There's a water shortage on Earth?

    Seems like mostly a distribution problem to me.

  • Brett L||

    What water shortage? 70% of our surface is covered with water.

  • Citizen Nothing||

    Space Straw Corp! Who's in?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Kansas is in for a surprise with the surface tension on that water ball finally gives.

  • db||

    Ante diluvium Kansas expectat pacifice.

  • db||

    Kansans need to get as fart away from that water as they can.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Especially since it contains all the water from my well. That stuff is terrible unfiltered.

  • John||

    http://www.clickorlando.com/ne.....index.html

    Nurse refuses student inhaler during asthma attack

  • sarcasmic||

    Selesky said the district is looking into whether proper procedures were followed by the school

    They find a prescription inhaler with the kid's name on it, and then stand there while the kid passes out from asphyxiation.

    That nurse should be taken out back and shot.

  • John||

    What kind of a fucking sick monster could stand there and watch some kid choke to death? It is just unimaginable.

  • sarcasmic||

    A member of a union who is following procedure.

  • NoVAHockey||

    it's BS. if she's a nurse, her scope of practice probably exceeds or at least is similar to mine as an EMT. and based on that article, my 3 checks were there -- right patient, right dose, right med. administer the damn drug.

  • John||

    Yeah. I could understand if it had been a teacher. I am not sure, not having any medical training, I would be so quick to just dose someone with meds. It is just as likely to do harm as it is good.

    But that is why they have a nurse. You know, someone who is trained and knows that they are giving the right meds.

  • NoVAHockey||

    and when in doubt, call med control. i operate under the license of an ER doc. the doc will authorize or deny a request.

  • John||

    You would think a school nurse would have the number on speed dial.

  • Restoras||

    John, there is a word in your sentence that absolves every adult of responsibility - can you guess what it is?

  • Rich||

    Ima guess "someone".

  • Ice Nine||

    Jesus, you guys, cut her some slack; that thing might have contained drugs or something. Oh, wait...

  • JW||

    "I'm sorry about your son's death ma'am, but rules are rules. I'm sure you understand."

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    Procedures were followed.

    We should just burn all of the procedures.

  • Restoras||

    The nurse was just following procedures. I blame the procedure writers.

  • NoVAHockey||

    They didn't even call 911? WTF?

  • ||

    Let me guess - she got into nursing to help people [insert hollow laugh]

  • SugarFree||

    Selesky said the district is looking into whether proper procedures were followed by the school

    The same bullshit excuse by the same bullshit people.

  • John||

    What the never realize is that it makes it worse. Which is worse

    We had a single crazy sick fuck we mistakenly hired as a nurse, or

    It is our official policy that nurses stand by and watch kids die because they didn't get their parents to sign the right forms?

    I think the latter is much worse. And worse than that is the kind of thinking that says "following procedures" somehow excuses the crime.

  • SugarFree||

    So many people think it does excuse all bad behavior, that's why they use it.

    Fuck, the schools had to be slapped down by the Supreme Court for strip-searching a 9-year-old based on the rumor she had an Advil. The public didn't give much a shit at all.

  • John||

    Just a less evil version of Nazis following orders putting people in ovens.

  • Hell's Librarian||

    I have a friend who also had that happen to her kid. The nurse thought the kid was playing up so she could get out of class. They'd have to hold me back if that was my kid.

    Selesky said the district is looking into whether proper procedures were followed by the school

    This is enragining. A kid passes out from an asthma attack when there are means IMMEDIATELY AT HAND, and there's a fucking investigation? To see if procedures were followed? FFS

  • JW||

    It's like Police Chief Wiggins is being used as the model for all low/mid-level functionaries now.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Federal officials said they followed procedures and that the girl did nothing to indicate she is U.S. citizen.

    I envision this guy named Procedures going around from agency to agency, leading law enforcement bureaucrats blindly from one misstep to another.

    You're adult professionals, and she's a 14-year-old child.

  • T||

    This is one of the few ones where I don't necessarily blame the feds.

    You have a person. She doesn't have fingerprints on file or any ID. You have no way to determine her identity except what she tells you. She gives you a name that comes up as being an illegal, and sticks with that story through the entire goat rodeo until she gets deported. What, are the feds supposed to assume she's lying when she gives them her name?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    When it's a child, I argue they must verify before taking action. When you take a person into custody, you become responsible for them.

  • tarran||

    How?

    There are millions of kids. Very few have fingerprints on file (and let's keep it that way).

    If one is going to have a functioning system for kidnapping people for being born in one place and showing up in another, this sort of thing is going to happen inevitably.

  • T||

    Why doesn't this kid have to take any responsibility for herself? Surely, at some point she should have figured out this was not going to turn out well.

  • tarran||

    Hey, she was working at a call center. I could be really off-base here, but it appears she was making a go of it.

    It's even possible she had found some happiness being out on her own.

  • T||

    Oh, I don't disagree, but during the whole custody/deportation mess, didn't she once stop to think they weren't kidding and that maybe the real name should be invoked?

  • ||

    As I said below, maybe she didn't care.

  • ||

    IOW, if you're running away from home, why not run as fart as you can.

  • SugarFree||

    Oh, Issac. A typo for the ages...

  • Randian||

    Oh man. We have to develop that into an actual internal meme.

  • ||

    There's a "t" in that sentence that does not belong. Sorry.

  • ||

    Busted.

  • ||

    In spite of the time stamp on my 10:19 comment, I saw neither SF's nor Randian's when I wrote it.

  • Randian||

    Look, Isaac, when you make a typo, you just need to get as fart away from it as you can.

  • ||

    John Jackson: "I say your three cent titanium tax goes too fart."
    Jack Johnson: "And I say your three cent titanium tax doesn't go too fart enough."

  • ||

    Is it too mucking fuch to ask you fart smellers to stop giving me this kind of abuse.

  • Ted S.||

    Is it too mucking fuch to ask you fart smellers to stop giving me this kind of abuse.

    Yes.

  • JW||

    It's even possible she had found some happiness being out on her own.

    Wait, you're excusing flagrant systemic incompetence because it might, and I stress, might, have worked out OK in the end for the kid? Let's not even consider how it went for her parents.

    Novel.

  • Randian||

    Can you cite to one piece of evidence of system incompetence? She stuck with the lie for months on end and let herself get deported.

  • JW||

    AM Links are probably dead now, but I'll respond anyway...

    FTA: She claimed to be an illegal immigrant even though she doesn’t speak Spanish.

    I believe that's what they call in the industry as a "red flag."

    Yes, I realize that the 14-year old kid was un-fucking-believably stupid, but that's what 14-year olds do. I expect the adults to have more sense than that.

  • tarran||

    Wait, you're excusing flagrant systemic incompetence because it might,

    First, I am not excusing the system. I hold no truck with the kidnapping and extortion racket that is Immigrations and Customs Enforcement.

    What I am saying is that I don't see how these guys should have known the kid was lying - especially because it sounds like she was systematically deceiving them. This isn't the guy who inspired the song Born in East LA, where the ICE picked up some poor kid who had the misfortune of being an American Citizen who spoke no English and dumped him in Mexico.

    That was incompetence and abusive.

    It could well be that something similar happened here, but it's not clear that the evil system that shouldn't exist behaved incompetently in this case.

  • ||

    Actually, if I have RTA correctly there's nothing that said she had a problem with it. She had gotten a job in a call center there, after all. She was only found after family members went looking for her.

    She had run away from home so it's not unreasonable to believe she figured she might as well run as far as she could. Now like a typical fourteen year old she may have exercised bad judgment but there's no indication that she had a problem with being sent to Columbia.

    In fact, she might have though it was fun until the reality of having to make a living in a call center struck home. And maybe not even then. Maybe her life at home really did suck bad enough to want to get out.

  • ||

    I agree with Tarran, who summed it up in three sentences while I was typing my jumble of verbosity.

  • Bobarian||

    Maybe, after having worked in a call center, Columbia sounded like a good deal?

  • VG Zaytsev||

    I envision this guy named Procedures going around from agency to agency, leading law enforcement bureaucrats blindly from one misstep to another.

    He's a libertarian community activist sowing seeds of hatred for the state.

  • ||

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    "When they circumcised Herbert Samuel, they threw away the wrong bit"

    That's classic

  • Brett L||

    “After Braveheart, they said he’d never make a true Scotsman, but look at him now – alcoholic and racist”

    Win.

  • John||

    When Milwaukee Police Chief Edward Flynn touted the city's fourth-straight year of falling crime in February, hundreds of beatings, stabbings and child abuse cases were missing from the count, a Journal Sentinel investigation has found.


    More than 500 incidents since 2009 were misreported to the FBI as minor assaults and not included in the city's violent crime rate, the investigation found. That tally is based on a review of cases that resulted in charges - only about one-fifth of all reported crimes.


    Yet the misreported cases found in 2011 alone are enough that Flynn would have been announcing a 1.1% increase in violent crime in February, instead of a 2.3% decline from the reported 2010 numbers, which also include errors.

    http://www.jsonline.com/watchd.....62135.html

  • ||

    ..you can reclassify an agg assault, unfound a robbery, but how do you make a body disappear? /Major Colvin

  • ||

    how do you make a body disappear?

    Ask a chemistry teacher, Bunny

  • Raston Bot||

    The Colombian government said the teenager was working in a call center when Dallas police located her and alerted U.S. and Colombian officials.

    so she got a free ticket down south to avoid our child labor laws. brilliant!

  • ||

  • Hell's Librarian||

    Have you read Tom and Lorenzo's analyses of Mad Men via the usage of the clothing in the show? It's pretty interesting; they go over current events and the characters and how the clothing and styles are used to reflect and underline things in the show.

  • ||

    I have indeed! Because of the vagaries of downloading, I see their analysis of the episode before the episode, and it does enhance the experience. AMC should get them to do a commentary or two on the box set. My fave line from them, however, relates to the dolls:

    Oh, Sweet Mary Mother of God, we haven’t wanted anything this bad since we discovered gay porn in 1982.

    Poetry.

  • Hell's Librarian||

    They are pretty funny. Those dolls are worth about $100 each now!

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    ...D.C. police and firefighter union officials are asking for an investigation into the burning of District personnel files, including medical files containing private information.

    I'm glad to see they finally put some teeth in the HIPAA rules.

  • Tim||

    They could have put out the burning dumpster but the firefighters were on break.

  • ||

    "The police and firefighters unions in DC suspect foul play"

    Shouldn't that be 'are suspected of foul play'?

  • ||

    Oh never mind.

  • ||

    i laughed

  • Mo' $parky||

    HA HA HA HA HA HA *gasp* HA HA HA HA HA HA *gasp*

    One night I went to a bathroom I don't usually use, was overcome with a very strong sexual urge (as often happens with me), and began to masturbate. The toilet seat was uncomfortable, so I decided to sit on the tank. It turns out the lock on the door was broken, and before I was through, Charles walked in on me.

  • John||

    I love Dear Prudence.

  • Randian||

    I think she gave bad advice on that one. She is right that it's sexual harassment, no doubt, but you have to consider a) the likelihood of success of the suit (small) b) the embarrassment it will cause when she's deposed the first time and presumably has to testify and c) that it will blow over eventually anyway.

    I would have advised her as an attorney the way Prudence did. As a friend, I would have advised her to suck it up and deal.

  • John||

    I agree. She should have started looking for a new job the day it happened.

  • Hell's Librarian||

    This letter sounds like the beginning of a Penthouse Forum letter.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    An NYPD official insists the incident was good police work, noting that Catanzaro obtained surveillance tape from the clothing boutique that exonerated Rowley, even after the store manager identified her as the suspect.

    "But for him viewing the videotape, the young lady would still be in custody," said Inspector Kim Royster, an NYPD spokeswoman.

    Yeah, assholes. Praise the guy for eventually releasing an innocent child. You fucks.

  • John||

    http://online.wsj.com/article/.....on_LEADTop

    Interesting piece on how the electoral college is shaping up in the fall.

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    Florida judge: Motorists have a First Amendment right to flash their headlights to warn other motorists about speed traps.

    http://bit.ly/LltO2N

  • Hell's Librarian||

    I am not getting the Daily Fail's fascination with Kristen Stewart.

  • John||

    I don't think is particularly attractive.

  • Restoras||

    Flavor of the Month?

  • SugarFree||

    No, she's going to be around for a while. She has the "Julie Roberts" effect. Attractive, but not too attractive; decent actor, but not good enough to be cast in anything too avant guard.

    She's just the sort of bland that America can get behind.

  • John||

    If a women is too attractive other women hate her. Women hate Jennifer Love Hewitt from the simple reason she is naturally thin and has naturally huge boobs.

    They are a little more forgiving of foreign women. And are forgiving of women who seem to fight their weight a bit. For example Selma Hayek, being foreign and not a size 2, is generally not hated.

    But an American women with a perfect figure is doomed to be loathed by women movie goers.

  • Hell's Librarian||

    But an American women with a perfect figure is doomed to be loathed by women movie goers.

    Meh. I don't think she's that attractive or has a perfect figure, and her perpetually stoned/ imbecilic expression is a turn-off too. I know, this fits into your stereotype of "women," who apparently all think the same things about all things.

  • Mo' $parky||

    I think she's attractive now and I think she's going to get a bit better once she grows up a little more. She's just being the cute emo teen right now, she'll get past that phase in a couple years.

  • John||

    I don't think she has a stoned look. Is she a great actor? No. But neither are most of the actors in Hollywood. You get into Hollywood on your looks first and foremost. If you can act, you go to the stage usually.

    I point out Hewitt because women seem to hate her beyond all reason. Even you fell for it. You couldn't resist coming down and dissing on her. Few women can. There is nothing Hewitt has ever done, beyond have a ballerina body with a DD bust, that warrants such scorn.

  • Hell's Librarian||

    I've never dissed on Hewitt at all. I don't know much about her, but I thought she was adorable as Audrey Hepburn.

    Re Kristen, I haven't fallen for anything. I don't get her attraction, just as you apparently don't get the attractiveness of other people. And if you don't think she looks stoned about half the time, I don't know what to say. To each his or her own, I guess.

  • John||

    I misunderstood you. I thought you were saying Hewitt looks stoned all of the time. Yeah, Stewart does look stoned all of the time. I agree.

    Sorry to misunderstand you. I thought you were dissing Jennifer Love Hewitt not Kristen Stewart.

  • T||

    Umm, I gotta go with John on this one. Women are far crueler to each other than men, and love nothing more than to cut the tallest blade of grass. Maybe not all of them, but enough that it's an issue. I'm gonna say it's a majority.

    Kristin Stewart just isn't threatening to a lot of women in the same way that say, Charlize Theron would be. She's short and cute and currently skinny, but I can go to any college campus in the country and find better looking women in their early 20s with absolutely no effort.

  • ||

    Hell's Librarian, I agree completely with you, but that's only because I'm a woman and our vajajays have synchronized or whatever

  • ||

    kristen stewart is completely outshined by ashley greene. it's not even close.

    stewart is cute.

    greene is ddg

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    Julia Roberts has a mouth like the infected from "I Am Legend". She could swallow a small child whole.

    Here's the proof

  • Hell's Librarian||

    LOL. I can never unsee that now, you bastard!

  • Restoras||

    I was thinking "large mouth bass" but yeah, I get what you are saying.

  • WTF||

    Is that a screen capture of the Alien Queen about to eat a baby?

  • Hell's Librarian||

    That's what I was thinking. I wonder if that baby managed to escape in time.

  • SugarFree||

    Is she going in for a bite, or screaming because the kid has her nipple in a vice grip?

    Or is it both, and that brave baby is just trying to defend itself? STAND YOUR GROUND, BABY!

  • rac3rx||

    No, she's going to be around for a while.

    Yes she is. Her Mother, Jules Stewart, is a major script supervisor and 1st AD in the business.

    It ain't about skills or appearance in this case, or in most actually. Most of these big stars are related to someone who has already "made it" in the industry.

  • John||

    http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=51708

    Obama The Amateur is going to debut at number 1 on the NYT best seller list. Yet, it hasn't gotten a single big media review.

  • tarran||

    SSSSHHHHHHHH!

    If we ignore it and pretend it doesn't exist, it will go away.

  • SugarFree||

  • Mo' $parky||

    Wow, that game looks awesome just from the start screen. I have to figure out where I can go buy that.

  • Randian||

  • Hell's Librarian||

    I can't believe they put "All your base are belong to us" at #9. That should have been either #1 or 2.

  • ||

    Who else clicked "Start"? Come on now, be honest.

  • SugarFree||

    Here are more, including Blade Runner.

  • SugarFree||

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    A Clockwork Orange videogame. You know, for kids!

  • Randian||

    I remember the Hellraiser ads. It was supposed to be the NES's only FPS.

  • mr simple||

    An MST3K video game? That has to be fun.

  • Pro Libertate||

    OBEY.

  • Brett L||

    "Goddam, this is the longest boss fight ever!"

  • JW||

    CRIPPLE FIGHT!

  • Scruffy Nerfherder||

    Does it have bubblegum powerups?

  • Dr. Frankenstein||

    I thought the powerup was when you ran out of bubblegum?

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    No GIF can compete with the voices in my head.

  • ||

    Those blck girls are lucky:

    An NYPD official insists the incident was good police work, noting that Catanzaro obtained surveillance tape from the clothing boutique that exonerated Rowley, even after the store manager identified her as the suspect.

    “But for him viewing the videotape, the young lady would still be in custody,” said Inspector Kim Royster, an NYPD spokeswoman.

  • Lord Humungus||

    asking for a little help - on my Amazon book "Headline" - I got a nasty little (and I think undeserved) 2-star review. Hell, it wasn't written by by constipated monkeys - the other review was a 5-star. I'm half-suspecting Mary Stack since she has done some minor trolling on my blog - which I cut by turning on comment moderation.

    So if anyone downloaded the book and enjoyed it, please help a brother out and give it a (honest) review on Amazon.

  • ||

    dude, is this it?

    Gotta say, that's not as nasty as la Stack in full flow (too much praise mixed into it), and it's rather coherent for her as well.

  • ||

    Miss Mary is fully capable of writing coherently, but I don't think that's her.

  • Randian||

    Was the critic right?

    I'll get your book for free and check it out, though.

  • Zeb||

    Miskatonic University. Nice touch.

  • ||

    7 percent of Californians admit to attempting murder.

  • Brett L||

    I think lane-sharing is inherently unsafe, but I would never attempt to put my car in a position that might injure another person (unless they were shooting at me or other unarmed people).

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    Civility alert:

    Convicted violent felon harasses, stalks conservative bloggers. Sarah Palin probably to blame.

    http://bit.ly/KV58vV

  • ||

    That sounds familiar after our griefer fiasco, doesn't it?

  • ||

    jesus christ. RTFA
    even the article says the manager identified the girl as the same who shoplifted

    his description didn't have to give PC

    it gave RS, enough for a detention. then, once the detention was made, his 'positive id' established PC, considering the totality.

    of course her refusal to stop would also be a crime, IF the police were clearly identifiable as such which IS debatable

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    So it's possible they just heard some guy in a car shout "get them!" - then tackle her and curse at her for failing to guess they were cops?

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    So if you had a daughter, you'd tell her to surrender to a guy in plain clothes who pulls up in a car and shouts "get them" - or at least wait around and see if they have an authentic badge?

  • ||

    of course. but that's tangential to the shoplifter thing.

    look, even the article says, and since it was a past committed crime, i am about 95% confident that ONCE she was detained, as the article says, the store manager was brought over and asked "is she the same girl that just did the shoplift?"

    the MANAGER, per the article, confirmed she was

    he was WRONG. but that's clearly PC.

    it wouldn't be the first time a bad ID results in an arrest, especially when the detainee matches the description well, and THEN you get the 'positive' id.

    that's how CA's and other arrests for shoplifts are made, under model penal code, and in every jurisdiction i've worked.

    and then during the followup, the video was obtained, and they determined she was NOT the actual suspect, iow it was a bad id and released her

    all the nonsense about her being an honor student, etc. is just dog whistle rubbish, totally irrelevant.

    and yes, i find it at least possible, if not likely, although hardly certain, that she didn't stop because she wasn't sure they were cops.

    however, i have also dealt with enough suspects who don't stop when they know damn well you are cops, to admit we don't know either way in regards to THAT part of the case

  • Randian||

    look, even the article says, and since it was a past committed crime, i am about 95% confident that ONCE she was detained, as the article says, the store manager was brought over and asked "is she the same girl that just did the shoplift?"

    They didn't have reasonable suspicion to make the detention. Unless you think every black pair of girls within a 10-block radius fair game for a Terry stop. And since when does a Terry stop involve tackling, cuffing, and then hauling the girl off to a shopkeeper for an ID? And since when is it 'good police work' to present one black girl in cuffs to a shopkeeper and say "whelp, this must be a good ID!"

    That's a load of bullshit.

  • ||

    again, you don't know if they had RS or not

    and it involves tackling when the order to stop is given and that is not heeded, etc.

    and it IS good police work, when catching a suspect in the vicinity of the crime, who matches the description, to present them to the complaining witness for ID

    that's how it is supposed to be done

    again, the only 'issue' here is that the ID was WRONG

    that happens

    that's why it's called PC and not "absolute fucking certainty"

  • Randian||

    again, you don't know if they had RS or not

    Wrong. I just said they didn't. Tell me the articulable, specific facts that constitute reasonable suspicion to detain these two girls.

    Relying on this generic of a description in the middle of a school area, when school had just let out, is not reasonable suspicion. "Two black girls, one with her hair pulled back" is not a good enough description to constitute reasonable suspicion.

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    Well, we know she hadn't committed any crime, she was walking home from school - so right there we have a possible reason she wouldn't assume some random guy in an unmarked car who shouted "get them" was a police officer. She had no reason to assume she was suspected of a crime.

    Since you seem to acknowledge this, do you think it was a great idea to curse at her for failing to guess right? Would they advise their own daughters to surrender to any random belligerent civilian in a car?

  • ||

    again, these are tangential issues. i am addressing the arrest and that the article establishes a fact pattern of PC

    assuming they swore at her, no that's not super nice and i am so sorry her fragile psyche was wounded by the evul swer wordz

    and AGAIN, you are making assumptions about how recognizable the officers were. did they have flashing blue light on the police car? wigwags, exempt plates, etc?

    i don't know nor do you. the difference is you will naturally assume all things not known with certainty in the worst light for the cops. i don't. i remain generally agnostic.

    they may not have properly been identifiable OR they may have

    i don't know. that's why i already said i didn't know about that part of the case

    because intelligent people who care about facts don't kneejerk like you

  • Randian||

    I care about the facts, and I have been challenging you on the facts the entire time. The 'fact' is that this is naked apologia on your part.

    The description was "two black girls, one with a ponytail". Does that mean you can stop every pair of black girls in the area, cuff them, and haul them in front of the shop owner? Especially given that they a) weren't running or in any other acting suspiciously (which Terry requires) and b) school had just let out?

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    You're the one who suggested she may not have recognized them.

    Maybe an innocent girl realized that cops were after her, and chose to act guilty.

    Your contempt for her is disgusting. You admit there's no evidence she did anything wrong.

    Yes, if I were you I wouldn't focus on this aspect of the case either.

  • tarran||

    assuming they swore at her, no that's not super nice and i am so sorry her fragile psyche was wounded by the evul swer wordz

    dunphy, you are such a vile shitbag. You know that?

    I hope you never have a daughter who is the victim of an indecent assault. Because the last thing that poor girl will need is you hectoring her about her fragile psyche.

  • Randian||

    I read the article, dunphy, and you're full of shit. They received the description, arrested the girls, THEN had the shopkeeper make the ID.

    If it gave them reasonable suspicion, then they could have frisked them and, having not found the stolen goods, they should not have pursued the matter.

    You think 'excuse me ladies' was the language used? Yeah fucking right. And given that is a lie, and that the NYPD is claiming that viewing video evidence is "good police work", AND given NYPD's categorical reputation for harassing black people, your willing naivete in this matter just reeks of apologia for your own people.

  • ||

    that's not how it works

    they made the detention, the shopkeeper confirmed the ID,- bam, that's PC.

    you are the one full of shit.

    all the other shit is extranous rubbish

    there is no apologia here, merely an understanding of how case facts work vs. your histrionic bigoted rubbish about how you know it was just HARASSING BLACK PEOPLE DERP DERP DERP

    yes, clearly these cops used this shoplift complaint as an excuse to harass the blackz derp derp derp

  • Randian||

    They got the wrong girls because they saw two black girls. That was it...that was all they relied on.

    That's real bang-up police work there.

    Again, if they made the detention, what was the outcome of the frisk? If there were no stolen goods, then there is no reason to continue the detention, full stop.

  • ||

    again, you are making baselss,and in fact WRONG assumptions

    there was a clothing and hair description

    and the arrest was not finalized until the storekeeper gave the id

    and they most definitely have the right to continue the detention just because there were no stolen goods ASSUMING the flight from the scene would have provided opportunity to ditch them

  • Randian||

    Where is the clothing description?

    Where is the proof that the girls' flight caused the officers to lose sight of them long enough to ditch the goods?

    The girls were not running beforehand, so how were they "acting in a suspicious manner" before the stop?

  • Randian||

    Again, dunphy, what are the aritculable and specific facts that the girls were engaging in suspicion behavior that gives rise to the justification for a Terry stop?

    If your answer is "they match the description", even though friends walk together after school all the time, then you are a bad police officer and I invite you to take a long walk off of a short pier. That is such a bare-bones, bland description that it's laughable.

  • Azathoth!!||

    Here's the thing--you don't have the description that was broadcast--you have a throwaway line in the News ABOUT what was broadcast--yet you've hung so much on the idea that that single line was EXACTLY the description the cops heard.

    You also cling to the notion that the police were not in uniform--even though the article only mentions an unmarked car.

    The police could have done everything wrong. They could have screwed this up--AND they could have done everything right--well, as right as Brittany taking flight would allow--on a stop like this, in my experience, the police stop the suspects and then drive the victim/witness past to get an ID--it is possible that, since she ran, the police took her to the store for an ID.

    But we don't actually know this. The story does not give enough detail or confirmable facts to make a determination either way.

    But we DO know that this same paper jumped on the 'white hispanic' bandwagon, so maybe their reporting is what's to be questioned.

  • lerm||

    The hat, that fucking hat.

  • Loki||

    “I feel my daughter was racially profiled,” her father said. “They had no proof, just a description of a black young lady with braids.”

    It's not the cops' fault you all look alike. /racism

  • ||

    the moron doesn't even know what racially profiling MEANS

    i guess his daughter was "gender profiled" as well...

  • Randian||

    Race was pretty much the only factor here. Riddle me this: if it had been two white girls, or two white boys, would they have been a) stopped when there are schoolchildren all about walking home and b) would they have been stopped in this violent of a manner?

    No way.

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    I really don't care if it was "profiling derp" or not. You're saying the dad made an assumption without evidence and hurt the poor cop's feelings? Gosh, that is so awful! Only cops get to do that!

  • ||

    i am saying the dad is being an idiot

  • Randian||

    geez, dunphy, if the police didn't do anything wrong, then I guess we all got the result we wanted, which is a big lawsuit and a failure to catch criminals.

    oh boy what a result.

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    Im sorry your "fragile psyche was wounded by the evul swer wordz". Accused of something he didn't do! That's like being thrown face-down on the ground when you didn't do anything wrong!

    I defended the UC Davis cops when even you were hesitant, and I jumped on the Free Mumia idiots and their fellow travellers, but this is just silly.

  • Randian||

    Seriously - usually I wind up being called a cop apologist from time to time, and even I haven't gone this far. I think that dunphy's general admonition to consider each police story on a case-by-case basis based on the facts is right, but he's out-and-out lying about the facts of this case.

  • ||

    again, ridiculous assumptions made w/o evidence on your part

    you assume it was racial, which is ridiculous. she matched the description, in proximity, and refused to stop

    and THEN the storekeeper positively id'd her.

  • Randian||

    The description was "two black girls"

    Thousands of people meet that description, especially right after school lets out.

  • db||

    Anyway, any bets on how much the Koreans are going to pay for that vial of Reagan's blood? I mean, isn't that the perfect chance for them to demonstrate their cloning tech?

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