Rick Santorum's Nephew is Just More of a Ron Paul Fan

Oh Rick, how things have changed. Where there was once no hope for a Santorum surge, Real Clear Politics now averages the former senator's poll numbers at 16.3 percent in Iowa (though they are of course much, much smaller nation-wise, so it's hard to feel too scared).

What's frustrating from a libertarian point of view is that evangelical Christians are the reason for Santorum's jump in poll numbers. He has particular appeal to anti-abortion activists and homeschoolers. If you noticed that Paul is also a Republican who is anti-abortion, pro-homeschooling, and Christian, congratulations. If he could just promise to bomb Iran, like some former Pennsylvania senators he might get the votes or endorsements of the truly socially conservative as well.

Because Santorum is just not for a small government; he has said so himself. And we must assume his supporters enjoy some of the glossy, empty rhetoric of down-home American conservatism, but that's about it. 

Writes David Boaz at the Cato @ Liberty blog:

[Santorum] declared himself against individualism, against libertarianism, against “this whole idea of personal autonomy, . . . this idea that people should be left alone.” And in this 2005 TV interview, you can hear these classic hits: “This is the mantra of the left: I have a right to do what I want to do” and “We have a whole culture that is focused on immediate gratification and the pursuit of happiness . . . and it is harming America.”

This lack of respect for the individual is apparently what turned off the sweater vest aficionado's 19-year-old nephew John Garver, who is a student at the University of Pittsburgh in Johnstown.

At the Daily Caller under the headline "The Trouble with my Uncle Rick Santorum", Garver writes that he's more of a Ron Paul fan than a fan of his Uncle Rick.

If you want another big-government politician who supports the status quo to run our country, you should vote for my uncle, Rick Santorum. America is based on a strong belief in individual liberty. My uncle’s interventionist policies, both domestic and foreign, stem from his irrational fear of freedom not working.

It is not the government’s job to dictate to individuals how they must live. The Constitution was designed to protect individual liberty. My Uncle Rick cannot fathom a society in which people cooperate and work with each other freely. When Republicans were spending so much money under President Bush, my uncle was right there along with them as a senator. The reason we have so much debt is not only because of Democrats, but also because of big-spending Republicans like my Uncle Rick.

It is because of this inability of status quo politicians to recognize the importance of our individual liberties that I have been drawn to Ron Paul. Unlike my uncle, he does not believe that the American people are incapable of forming decisions. He believes that an individual is more powerful than any group (a notion our founding fathers also believed in).

Another important reason I support Ron Paul is his position on foreign policy. He is the only candidate willing to bring our troops home, not only from the Middle East, but from around the world.

A hundred blogger jokes about awkward Santorum family Thanksgivings were born from that earnest editorial. You have to wonder where Garver got his sense. And you don't have to be head-over-heels about Paul to notice that Garver has got his uncle's number good. Ron Paul is, in many ways, just as square as Santorum (though older, so he has further excuse) but he's pretty keen on personal choice and, most daringly, not running off to war every five minutes. Maybe the kids today like that.

But don't worry, Santorum still has the support of humongous homeschooling brood and reality TV sensations the Duggars. He's the family's bronze medal since former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee could not be enticed into the race and according to Duggar patriarch Jim Bob, "You're not going to find a perfect candidate unless it's Jesus Christ." 

Rupert Murdoch, from his brand new account, has been excitedly tweeting his support for Santorum these last few days as well. 

Reason on Santorum, if you must know more.

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  • Lewis H||

    well, he's no Mitt

  • CalebT||

    http://freethoughtblogs.com/cr.....tatus-quo/

    Maybe a forum that's limited to 140 characters at a time isn't an appropriate place to have debate on such a complex topic as sexism?

  • CalebT||

    Oh, yeah, and OT, by the way.

  • ||

    PWN'D

  • ||

    Are they genetically linked, or is it one of those by-marriage relationships?

  • ||

    Who cares? It's still a huge fuck you, and therefore hilarious.

  • Lucy Steigerwald||

    I originally wrote the words "failed senator." Don't think I didn't consider linking to it...

  • ||

    Why not? Still in the archive, still an active thread, still a Hit & Run classic.

    Update your post, Lucy. You know you want to do it.

  • nicole||

    Still in the archive, still an active thread, still a Hit & Run classic.

    I can't believe it was more than five years ago...love that thread, miss J Sub D, nonthreaded comments...aww, guys! The bittersweetness of Santorum and his failures!

    I assume with their breeding program they have other kids of the same appropriately inappropriate age for crying on camera this time around?

  • ||

    If not, they can always hire some. Not nephews, though. Nephews are right out.

  • Lucy Steigerwald||

    Wow, total reply fail. Can't blame the threaded comment wolverines or whatever it is, 'tis only lack of sleep.

  • ||

    Actually, Lucy, feel free to blame ProL. I do.

  • ||

    There's money to be made in the art of scapegoatery. Lots of money.

  • ||

    There's like two hundred people here chanting, "Lucy, Lucy"--urging you to link to the post. No, really, you could hear them if you were here and, well, maybe hallucinating a little bit.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Don't do it. Hateful rhetoric is what gets people riled up. RILED UP.

  • ||

    Feel free to blame FoE too, Lucy. I know I do.

  • Lucy Steigerwald||

    This climate of hate is really starting to make me kill dozens of people.

  • ||

    Just resist the temptation to use target reticules on a map in any of your posts, and you'll be okay.

  • db||

    Dude. Reticles

    /pedant mode

  • Gojira||

    Slacker. I blame every single commenter on here, excepting myself of course. And sometimes I even blame me, too.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    And I subcontract to Pro Libertate, so it all works out.

  • ||

    Seriously, folks, six figures a year as a professional scapegoat. As a sideline!

  • Auric Demonocles||

    Like a good libertarian I've enslaved women and children to do my scapegoating and keep the profits for myself.

  • ||

    Rhetoric? What rhetoric? It's hateful snark. Besides, that was five years ago. The girl is probably working in the adult industry by now.

  • ||

    Because of you, ProL. Because of you.

  • ||

    As you may recall, I attacked the son with the "thousand-yard stare", not the girl. That was you and Julian.

  • ||

    You're just filled with hate, aren't you. Well, good. Let it flow through you.

  • ||

    Hi guys! What have I missed, and how can I get dunphy over here?

  • ||

    Well, there was that onside kick attempt. Then there was Ron Paul saying he couldn't see himself in the White House as he's poised to possibly win Iowa. Some people are visiting VM in the yummy tears thread, and it's 2012.

  • Lucy Steigerwald||

    Shellshock is no joke, you monster.

  • ||

    You see it, too, don't you? I mean, look at the picture. If you told me that the kid had actually killed people for hire, I'd believe you.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Wherever this comment lands randomly in this thread, I just want to warn everyone that typing RILED UP in all caps has gotten me riled up.

  • ||

    An anagram of Santorum is Nut roams.

  • ||

    He really is a monster, isn't he, Lucy. I think he's possibly the nastiest, most vicious commenter on H&R. Even worse than robc.

  • ||

    My devious and treacherous use of tolerance and civility has destroyed many a life.

  • robc||

    No one is nastier or more vicious than me. Take that back.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Wow, total reply fail. Can't blame the threaded comment wolverines or whatever it is, 'tis only lack of sleep.


    WOLVERINES!

  • ||

    Lack of sleep or lack of sheep?

  • ||

    This climate of hate is really starting to make me kill dozens of people.

    You want a climate of hate? I'll give you a climate of hate that will make you want to murder the first person you see.

    Wait for it. It kicks in at :54.

  • Lucy Steigerwald||

    Thank you. Thank you.

    Now someone be sad that that cinema classic is four years older than I am.

  • The Chat-O-Tariat||

    You have groupies, Lucy!

  • robc||

    shameful bronze.

  • ||

    You should link to the yummy tears thread, Lucy. It's scorn of the highest order. And a thread of great historical significance.

  • El Commentariosa||

    NO! Leave the moose alone with his thoughts.

  • ||

    I was thinking VM would like some company. It's cold as a witch's teat in Chicago and very gloomy.

  • El Commentariosa||

    That thread takes forever to load.

  • ||

    That, it does. I occasionally go to say hi to my old Moosian friend, and sometimes I forget what I was going to say while waiting for the page to load.

  • fish||

    2223 comments.....1/3 of which were from "highnumber"! Way to go the distance boy!

  • ||

    Don't be too quick to praise him--he failed to respond to every comment in the thread, as he initially intended. Slacker!

  • Fluffy||

    Like I said this morning, the Paul campaign has no one to blame for this but themselves.

    Michele Bachmann wasn't going anywhere, and she was helping to split the fundie vote very nicely in Iowa and elsewhere. But they just couldn't leave well enough alone, and had to snag that Sorenson character out from under her.

    That effectively killed her campaign, sent all her supporters to Santorum, and gave the Paul campaign an indirect black eye by letting people hem and haw about Sorenson being "a rat".

    They should have left Bachmann alone and just continue to execute on their campaign plan.

  • Apatheist||

    Paul again gets the coveted Bunny Ranch endorsement:

    http://dailycaller.com/2012/01.....-for-paul/

  • Apatheist||

    He's the family's bronze medal since former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee could not be enticed into the race and "you're not going to find a perfect candidate unless it's Jesus Christ."

    We are so totally fucked.

  • ETC||

    "you're not going to find a perfect candidate unless it's Jesus Christ."

    Repugs would hate him and call him a socialist.

  • ||

    you're not going to find a perfect candidate unless it's Jesus Christ.

    At the very least, his "turn the other cheek" rhetoric would be "dangerous", maybe even "suicidal"

  • ||

    you're not going to find a perfect candidate unless it's Jesus Christ.

    They're hypocrites if they don't demand to see Jesus' birth certificate.

  • Gojira||

    I have it on good authority that he was not born in the United States.

  • ||

    He gets in by the adoption clause.

  • Gojira||

    Maybe the Mormons could shed some light on this. If he was re-born in the area that would someday become the United States, does that count?

  • ||

    It's all irrelevant. If Jesus wanted to run, we could conquer Israel, then annex it. Ergo, American-born!

  • A fan||

    Wait until they see his mother in a burka!

  • ||

    I have it on good authority that he was not born in the United States.

    Don't say that to Mittens.

  • ||

    Even the Mormons don't think JC was born in the US, just that he came back after an extended vacation and wrote down some rules he forgot.

  • ||

    Then how did he get here? There's no TSA record of him going through a checkpoint on his way.

  • ||

    really sloopy, you think jesus flies commercial? His bibles are world record holders in sales. He's got himself a motherfuckin private 7-4-7.

  • ||

  • Gojira||

    Then how did he get here? There's no TSA record of him going through a checkpoint on his way.

    TERRORIST!!!

    Actually he probably would visually meet the profile of someone who needs "enhanced screening". Plus he has to be on several watch lists for belonging to a fringe political group.

  • Butts Wagner||

    Does that make him an Ancient Alien?

  • ||

    God bless Ron Paul, but he is just not playing in the majors, here.

    Everyone knows a big bloc of Iowa caucusoids are pure social cons. Would it have killed Ron to take a break from his patented unscripted stump meanderings to give a speech explaining to social cons that small government is the OG social con place to be?

    For that matter, would it kill him to take a break, etc. and give a speech about what his foreign policy would really look like?

    One of his problems is that he is so unfocussed that its easy for people to mischaracterize and project their worst fears on him.

  • ||

    iirc he has gone to some evangelical-themed political events in Iowa and talked about his faith. They're not buying what he's selling. That Des Moines pastor/radio host on the morning links seemed to have a fairly precise idea of what his foreign policy would look like and found it wanting.

    You're spot on about the disorganized way he presents himself, though.

  • KeimgMeg on Twitter||

    He is not perfect, which is why he has US!

  • Slap the Enlightened!||

    Since there's no way in hell the GOP will give him the nomination, even if he wins every primary in the country, it hardly makes any difference. Still, I do hope he wins Iowa, just for the satisfaction of being treated to the sweetest music in the American political repertoire - neo-cons bellowing like they've been paid a visit by this guy.

  • ||

    Hey now, the time for armchair quarterbacking is "after" he loses the nomination.

    If Les Miles were running Paul's campaign, they'd be focused like a laser.

  • Gojira||

    If Les Miles was running his campaign, first of all, the word "campaign" would constantly be misspelled.

    Secondly, RP would absolutely win, but in some kind of flukey, one-in-a-million fashion. The guy has some kind of mutant power that affects the laws of probability in his favor.

  • robc||

    Hat magic.

  • rho||

    Breadth != unfocussed.

    Paul's problem is he's got a bushel full of issues that all stem from the same root, The Federal Government Does Too Much.

    The flip side is that everybody with a hint of libertarianism in their blood latches on to one particular plank in his platform and becomes a supporter. It's working better than any prior libertarian candidate, largely because Paul doesn't look like a hippy or sound like a MSNBC talk show host.

  • Steve Eldridge||

    Rick Santorum has a long history of being a major player in the inside the beltway Lobbyist game.

    Did everyone forget?

    Learn more about his K-Street Project Connection - http://thebottom99percent.com/.....ould-know/

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    I saw Rick Santorum at a Pens game once. I also saw Green Man at the same game, but not at the same time. I wonder what that means.

    And Santorum was in the cheap seats (which explains how I saw him). He's a man of the people.

  • ||

    This kid's clearly just parroting his libertarian professors at that den of iniquity, Pitt-Johnstown. When he has kids of his own, he'll understand.

  • KeimgMeg on Twitter||

    I have been home schooled since the fourth grade, yet I see no reason to support tricky Rick Santorum, a man who severely increased the size of the Department of Education. A man that has stated that 'rights come from the family, not the individual'. A man that has admitted that he despises the Tenth Amendment. A man that would force me to be moral when I, and most others are, quite frankly, are more than capable of choosing what is good in most circumstances.

    The Duggars, IMO, are NOT typical of the homeschooling community. They are just loud, proud, and in your face. Even though I am a conservative Christian home schooler, I could not possibly be more ashamed of this family that has whored itself to the world. Not because they are 'square', but because their 'squareness' is nothing more than a pretension they are more than happy to temporarily discard when a camera is present.

    Young Home Schoolers for Ron Paul 2012!

  • BakedPenguin||

    No one can force you to be moral, since morality involves choice. They can force you to follow rules or be jailed, but that's not the same thing.

  • BakedPenguin||

    Or alternatively, force you to take the Ludovico treatment.

  • ||

    Anything that will make Santorum cry is wonderful news. And while I in no way suspect Beloved Editor Lucy of intentionally begrudging a hat-tip, Hirsute Commenter Warty linked this earlier.

  • Paul||

    Not even a hat tip, let alone adjective.

  • ||

    The editors treat me like their herpes: tolerated by necessity, but not acknowledged.

  • rho||

    Similes of shame, like heavy metal viola music.

  • ||

    I believe the custom is that you only get a hat tip if the editor would not have discovered it independently. This story is all over the libertarian media.

  • ||

    "you're not going to find a perfect candidate unless it's Jesus Christ."

    At the age of 2015 (if you go by the Roman Tax Rolls), JC may be a little old for the job. (He does get a shot at it due to the "adoption clause", because everybody knows that "Jesus was Amerikun.")

    And don't forget, you'd have to pay his pension FOREVER.

  • ||

    Our first Jewish president!

    I wonder what his position on Israel would be.

  • ||

    Wasn't a Jew prominent in betraying him to the Roman authorities?

  • ||

    And what does that say about his ability to select a cabinet? Or a Supreme Court justice?

  • ||

    No political experience, either. Kind of a detriment after the Obama fiasco.

    I think he'd make a fine president, but he's a dark horse at best.

  • ||

    Well, he could solve the energy crisis by turning all the water into oil.

    Oh, wait! BP's already done that!

  • ||

    Yeah, well, that didn't go as well as planned. No oil washing up here in Tampa, darn the luck!

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    He isn't very good at obtaining majority support. The last time people sat around in a caucus to decide his fate, look what happened.

  • Eduard van Haalen||

    And in the primary, he lost to Barabbas.

  • Jesus H Christ||

    "Man, if there's one thing I hate more than Romans its Jewish-Israeli politicians."

  • ||

    No, its the People's Judean Front.

  • ||

    Uh, no, splitter, it's the People's Front of Judea.

  • ||

    I thought we were the Popular Front of Judea.

  • k2000k||

    You mean the Peoples Liberation Front of Judea

  • k2000k||

    or was it the Wholly Sublime and Benelovent Peoples Liberation Front Lead By Our Dear Leader of Judea?

  • Paul||

    “This is the mantra of the left: I have a right to do what I want to do” and “We have a whole culture that is focused on immediate gratification and the pursuit of happiness . . . and it is harming America.”

    Not even close. Find me one person on the modern left who believes this. One... person...

  • juris imprudent||

    When the good former Senator (and only a former Senator can truly be a good one) says "left" he means anyone not squarely in the camp of his God. It is a capacious definition.

  • ||

    What is Ron Paul doing running robocalls at this late date? Every off hand remark I've heard is the Iowans are sick of the phone calls.

  • ||

    robots are underrepresented as a demographic.

  • Gojira||

    Any day now, Skynet is going to become sick unto death of those calls, and then...

  • chris||

    He could put on that message. 'Support me, and these calls stop tonight. Otherwise, we're leaving the machines running until so long as the bill is paid up.'

  • db||

    Maybe if he offered to send a pic of Lobster Girl to each household that agreed to vote for him...

  • ||

    Off topic, but gawddammit I'm getting sick and tired of the whining about the Ron Paul Media Blackout. I can't turn around without seeing another Ron Paul story in the media, yet some of his supporters are still crying that no one is covering their candidate. What color is the sky on your planet? Sheesh.

  • ||

    Rick Santorum's Nephew a Ron Paul supporter?

    Reply: Once you've seen the light ... well, there is no going back.

  • juris imprudent||

    Tomorrows headline tonight:

    Santorum surge comes to sputtering conclusion

  • Louis Nardozi||

    Dr. Paul cured my apathy - he can cure yours too!
    Besides, he's the only one to oppose the policies that kill millions of innocent people overseas in undeclared wars.
    Think of him as the anti murder vote!

    Vote Vertebrate - Ron Paul 2012!

  • db||

    UPJ, eh? That's right across the street from my old high school.

  • Kevin Carson||

    Look, it's Mr. Hankey! No, wait, it's just the Santorum fetus.

  • Oathkeeper James||

    I understand that the overseas military vote went overwhelmingly to Ron Paul but the statists at the “Republican” Party are sitting on it so that Romney can win New Hampshire!

    The truth will out! We’ll know my theory (more like fact!) is true if Romney wins New Hampshire by a large amount

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