Matt Welch | July 15, 2010
As we await Judge Richard Leon's ruling on whether the government's evidence malfunction will invalidate some of the case against adult video distributor John Stagliano, some more related headlines from around the Intertubes:
* The
Reporters Committe for the Freedom of the Press: Access to
High-profile Obscenity Trial Partially Blocked
* Ashby Jones, Wall Street Journal: Obscene or Not Obscene? In D.C. Federal Court, That is the Question
* Amanda Hess, Washington City Paper: Should Porn Star Testify Under Her Real Name?
* AdultFYI.com: Lorelei Lee Revealed as the Madam X in the Stagliano Porn Trial; She Holds a NYU Masters Degree
* Aurora Snow, AVN: "By the prosecution's standard most porn would be considered obscene"
* Dave Weigel, The Atlantic: The Screwing of John Stagliano
* Sing City Chronicles: Reason Gets a Chubby
Follow the latest at reason.com/topics/john-stagliano-trial, correspondent Richard Abowitz's Twitter feed, and at Twitter's #Stagliano.
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hmm|7.15.10 @ 10:03AM|#
So when is reason going to preview Storm Squirters Two and Milk Maids?
Jordan Elliot|7.15.10 @ 10:04AM|#
Who's the blond?
|7.15.10 @ 10:06AM|#
Lorelei Lee. (When in doubt, right-click the pic, select "view image," and check out the file name.)
Jordan Elliot|7.15.10 @ 10:12AM|#
Doing a quick search on my usual "entertainment" haunts yields several results of scenes that I've actually seen.
Tired + Bad eyes = Looking like a dumbass online.
|7.15.10 @ 4:37PM|#
She's a regular on kink.com---shoulda figured she'd be with Stagliano.
|7.15.10 @ 10:17AM|#
She is pretty cute for a porn star.
Citizen Nothing|7.15.10 @ 10:20AM|#
I don't watch much porn. Really. (No, really.) I would think that the money involved in big-time productions would be enough to attract reasonably attractive actors. No?
|7.15.10 @ 10:22AM|#
I don't watch much porn either. So when I think of a porn star I think of Jenna Jamison, the only one who seems to make the news. And Jamison is a complete skank. I wouldn't fuck her with Hitler's dick.
The woman in the picture in contrast is not gorgeous but cute and not what I would think of when I think porn star.
Jordan Elliot|7.15.10 @ 11:19AM|#
I have to say, the two of you with your "I don't watch much porn" reads very shifty like.
Not doubting either of you. It just sounds that way in my addled mind.
Citizen Nothing|7.15.10 @ 11:20AM|#
Heh heh heh.
|7.15.10 @ 11:39AM|#
Note the key term "much". If we had said we don't watch or never watch porn, you would have known we are liars.
|7.15.10 @ 10:25AM|#
Attractive women can usually make money much easier than getting cum shit into their mouth while having a huge cock buried in their sigmoid colon.
|7.15.10 @ 10:27AM|#
Yeah if you are hot and have no shame and need money, you can make good money as a stripper or a hooker and not leave any video evidence to haunt you the rest of your life. I really don't see how they get women to do it.
Virginia|7.15.10 @ 10:36AM|#
I read an interview with former call girl Ava Devine where she claimed to make gobs more money in film than her own off-camera practice.
Also, the element of safety probably should not be overlooked.
Ska|7.15.10 @ 10:39AM|#
Ava Devine, now that's a skanky porn star. She's got to be in her forties and does all the things the 20 year olds don't have to do (yet).
|7.15.10 @ 10:40AM|#
True. But when is the last time you heard of a high end call girl getting murdered? Pretty rare. I suspect it is about the money.
|7.15.10 @ 12:41PM|#
I don't think he was talking about murder, rather the danger of being arrested and/or getting STDs. Porn actors are tested for STDs frequently.
Citizen Nothing|7.15.10 @ 10:30AM|#
Good point, SF.
The Art-P.O.G.|7.15.10 @ 10:35AM|#
I do know exotic dancing is a gateway porn.
Jordan Elliot|7.15.10 @ 11:43AM|#
$20 to the first person to dig up vids from P.O.G.'s porn career.
Barney Stinson|7.15.10 @ 12:15PM|#
Legen...wait for it...
The Art-P.O.G.|7.15.10 @ 1:05PM|#
Look, I only did all those pegging DVDs because I really needed the money, OK?
|7.15.10 @ 12:32PM|#
She is pretty cute for a porn star.
I suspect that with the porn industry much bigger and more competitive thanks to the Internet, a lot of the cute girls who used to go to Hollywood to become a movie star are now going into porn, which has a much higher likelihood of an immediate payday than Hollywood does.
And chances are there are fewer guys they have to have sex with to become a porn star than to become a movie star too.
The Art-P.O.G.|7.15.10 @ 1:12PM|#
Beautiful quip, man!
Brian Moore|7.15.10 @ 10:31AM|#
Is that a George Martin book in the background? I think I can see a Terry Pratchett book too! She's in the sci-fi section!
Oh wait, did I fail the test?
tarran|7.15.10 @ 11:32AM|#
My initial reaction to the picture was to wonder when is the next Game of Thrones book coming out.
Solanum|7.15.10 @ 10:35AM|#
Dave Weigel, The Atlantic: The Screwing of John Stagliano
Screwing? I'm surprised Dave didn't say something like "gentle rectal exploration."
|7.15.10 @ 10:40AM|#
He wanted to say "The ratfucking of John Stagliano" but his editors wouldn't approve.
Citizen Nothing|7.15.10 @ 11:00AM|#
He he he.
Citizen Nothing|7.15.10 @ 11:01AM|#
But good for Weigel for landing a gig.
|7.15.10 @ 10:41AM|#
Glad to see Weigs finally stumbled on the one issue where squishy liberals and libertarians agree - the First Amendment.
|7.15.10 @ 10:44AM|#
Only when it comes to porn RC. If Stagliano had been buying ad time against Harry Reid arguing against cap and trade, Weigal and his cohorts would be demanding he be strung up.
|7.15.10 @ 12:33PM|#
I'm not so sure about liberals agreeing with libertarians on porn. SugarFree can probably provide a link.
|7.15.10 @ 10:58AM|#
By the prosecution's standard most porn would be considered obscene
You're shitting me, right?
RIGHT?
|7.15.10 @ 11:01AM|#
Isn't that kind of the point? Who would pay to see "non obscene" porn?
most|7.15.10 @ 11:05AM|#
women
andy|7.15.10 @ 11:12AM|#
+1
|7.15.10 @ 11:23AM|#
Most women I know who like porn like stuff that's pretty "filthy."
most|7.15.10 @ 11:35AM|#
DB, the operative words : women I know
|7.15.10 @ 12:43PM|#
I do know a better class of woman, yes.
I guess you get|7.15.10 @ 1:09PM|#
what you pay for.
The Gobbler|7.15.10 @ 11:07AM|#
No one is obsene.
|7.15.10 @ 12:12PM|#
People still pay for porn? I'm convinced the FBI and SEC are the only people paying for it....which I guess means we're all paying for it? Ugh.
|7.15.10 @ 12:38PM|#
You get what you pay for. Well, unless you are stealing it, in which case you should be shunned by the libertarian community (but probably won't be around here due to IP blind spots).
The Art-P.O.G.|7.15.10 @ 1:27PM|#
I pay 4 pr0n.
|7.15.10 @ 3:19PM|#
Good for you. It's just sickening to contemplate the ingratitude of the freeloaders who consume the excess that trickles down from us paying bators.
Joe|7.15.10 @ 1:27PM|#
I know. And ordering porn through the mail? You can still do that?
|7.15.10 @ 11:46AM|#
But good for Weigel for landing a gig.
Does that go in the "created" or "saved" column?
|7.15.10 @ 12:35PM|#
Thank you for posting a picture of Lorelei instead of the silicone MILF Aurora has become.
|7.15.10 @ 12:43PM|#
Oh, and by the way, you really should have a NSFW tag on the AVN and AdultFYI links up there.
|7.15.10 @ 1:21PM|#
IT paid you a little visit, did they, Tulpa?
|7.15.10 @ 3:15PM|#
Luckily I was eating lunch at Quizno's when I loaded that link, so no. Hopefully the manager doesn't find out and start sticking some free extras in my tuna subs in the future.
The Art-P.O.G.|7.15.10 @ 1:26PM|#
Yeah, that AdultFYI site had some banner ads that were NSFW.
What a shocker|7.15.10 @ 1:48PM|#
A story on porn had links that are not safe for work!
The Art-P.O.G.|7.15.10 @ 2:13PM|#
...Not all the links from this thread are NSFW...
|7.15.10 @ 2:02PM|#
Who's the dick at Sing City?
|7.15.10 @ 3:33PM|#
Heh, the AdultFYI story gives enough information to find Lorelei's real name in about 15 minutes for someone marginally Internet literate.