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Savory Dog BBQ and Sweet, Sweet Pluralism
You already know we here at
Reason love cloned puppies. But do we love them enough
to eat
them?
Animal lovers in New Zealand want to make it illegal for people to eat their pets, after a Tongan family killed and barbequed their pet dog.
The Taufa family killed their pet staffordshire bull terrier Ripper and then invited friends round for a barbeque. Lupi Taufa says it's common practice in her homeland Tonga. "Dog, horse, we eat it in Tonga. It's good food for us," she said.
Derek Haddy works for the SPCA, New Zealand's equivalent of the RSPCA. "I find it quite disturbing that somebody would kill a pet and then eat it. I'm not OK with that, but unfortunately the law allows you to do it," he said. The SPCA says people eating their pets happens more often than society realises.
Little blurbs like this one from the Australian Broadcasting Corporation are an uncomfortable reminder of the swaths of modern political life still predicated on the yuck factor. While it's possible to take a rational position against dog eating (just as one might take such a position against cow or chicken eating)—dogs are ethically relevant beings in Peter Singer's expanding circle, the habit of killing living things makes men less virtuous, etc.—that's not what this story is about. An accurate summary of brief is: "Dog eating? Ew. Let's make it illegal."
In my view, the same dynamic can be observed in gay marriage debate. Reasoned arguments exist, but they are give force by a body politic that is mildly grossed out by gay sex. A fair assessment? Discuss.
Or just talk about what dog BBQ would taste like. Whichever.
Via Reason contributor Jacob Grier, who adds: "Libertarian purity test time!"
Cronus|8.18.09 @ 3:15PM|#
Next thing you know they will start meddling with the right of a man to eat his own children!
Tomcat1066|8.18.09 @ 3:17PM|#
If laws are enacted based on the "yuck" factor, then we should pass a law banning sex with ugly chicks.
|8.18.09 @ 3:20PM|#
A fair assessment? Discuss.
Yeah, pretty fair assessment. It then leads to debates about,
"Well, your side is winning, but only because of the people who are
motivated by the disgust, even if you claim that you're motivated
by a logical argument."
|8.18.09 @ 3:22PM|#
I find it quite disturbing that somebody would kill a pet and then eat it.
Tell that to the 4H! Charlotte's Web was fiction, livestock do not
speak in real life.
|8.18.09 @ 3:23PM|#
Or just talk about what dog BBQ would taste like.
Chicken, obviously.
I'd eat dog without hesitation. After all, I eat pus...wait.
I had alligator at the Taste of Seattle fair a few weeks ago, and
it was great.
Gordon Shumway|8.18.09 @ 3:23PM|#
I've long advocated the eating of cats. Just watch out for the
hairballs.
Ha! I kill me.
JD|8.18.09 @ 3:24PM|#
Yeah, what Flint Michigan Rabbit Seller said. Plenty of people
own animals for a while before killing them for meat. Sometimes
they treat these animals very well. But that doesn't make the
animals "pets". I think the original author unfortunately conflates
"dog" with "pet".
And yeah, it does seem icky to buy an animal and treat it well, let
it live with you, play with it, buy it toys...and then kill it and
eat it. But "icky" != "morally wrong".
|8.18.09 @ 3:24PM|#
I always enjoy pointing out to the anti dog / cat / anything other than beef, pork, chicken or fish, liberals that they are racists
|8.18.09 @ 3:28PM|#
I'm not sure it's just "yuck."
Dogs and humans grew up together, so to speak. As species, we're
old pals.
We have farms where we raise certain animals for food, cows, goats,
pigs, etc. We eat all of them and who helps us do it? Dogs. And
they've helped us do it since the dawn of agriculture. Before then,
dogs were our hunting partners, helping us track and hunt other
animals to eat.
No one was eating the dogs because they were so valuable with
regard to finding other food. Ok, when times got tough, they
probably ate the dog, but they also probably ate some of the other
humans too.
There are certain species of animal, dogs and cats, that have been
at our side since before the dawn of civilization in a sort of
symbiotic relationship.
Most likely, to eat them just feels wrong, not because it's yucky,
but because it seems you're eating your friend. And you are.
|8.18.09 @ 3:30PM|#
Most likely, to eat them just feels wrong, not because it's
yucky, but because it seems you're eating your friend. And you
are.
"It's lonely being a cannibal. Tough making friends."
|8.18.09 @ 3:31PM|#
Those Japanese Kobe' beef producers will tell you that the better you treat an animal, the finer the meat.
|8.18.09 @ 3:31PM|#
How do you ban dog eating but not cow eating? If you say it's
the smarts factor, I defer you to the pig.
Dog eating should be legal. Sorry!
|8.18.09 @ 3:32PM|#
I've had dog (Pusan, ROK). Big goddam deal, it's an animal, likely no more intelligent than the pigs we eat regularly.
|8.18.09 @ 3:32PM|#
"Pet or meat?"
It's from the Michael Moore film "Roger and Me". By law, the woman
could only legally sell rabbits if their intended use was as pets,
so she had to ask customers what their plans were in order to stay
in compliance.
Pet or meat?
Urkobold™|8.18.09 @ 3:34PM|#
IN THE PRODUCTION OF KOBE MONKEY MEAT, RANCHERS HAVE THEIR WIVES NURSE THE MONKEY LIVESTOCK.
|8.18.09 @ 3:38PM|#
Although dogs and pigs are certainly smarter than dumbass horses that non-canuck North Americans get all squishy about eating.
Xeones|8.18.09 @ 3:38PM|#
What if I clone and eat myself?
What if i clone myself and then have the clone eat me while i
masturbate?
I had alligator at the Taste of Seattle fair a few weeks ago,
and it was great.
I had alligator tail nuggets once; they tasted like chicken, of
course, but with more of a shrimp texture (only tougher).
Tasty.
|8.18.09 @ 3:39PM|#
BTW, the alligator at Mulot's in Breaux Bridge, LA is mighty tasty. They shoot them out back in the Bayou Teche.
|8.18.09 @ 3:39PM|#
True story from Salt Lake City:
Horse breeder puts up shetland pony for sale in classifieds. Tongan
man shows up in a van, tells him the pony's for his daughter's
birthday and pays the $400 cash for it. Breeder asks him how he
will be transporting it. Tongan laughs, reaches into van, comes out
with a small sledge hammer and right off smashes the pony's brains
in. Then, as the speechless breeder stood there, dragged the dead
pony into back of the van, thanked him and drove off.
As you can expect, cops called, tears and shock, and the van is
tracked to home a few miles away. Cops show up to a crowded bbq of
hefty Tongans and the pony is being slow roasted over a pit. Cops
get the same expaination - "we eat everything back home and pony is
especially good." No charges since the pony was killed quick and
clean.
Will the Hindus take away my right to ribs and steaks?
|8.18.09 @ 3:39PM|#
I don't know which Simpsons reference to use -- Homer taking a bite out of the the dog in The Land Of Chocolate, or Homer eating Pinchy after accidentally parboiling him in the bathtub.
|8.18.09 @ 3:40PM|#
Fact: Just like rat meat, consuming dog meat will slightly raise your internal temperature.
Xeones|8.18.09 @ 3:40PM|#
There was a Vietnamese restaurant that me and my crew frequented
in college, so i've probably eaten dog.
A nearby Chinese restaurant, popular with the post-frat-party
takeout crowd, got busted by the health department for having a
colony of cats locked in a room behind the kitchen.
Chase Crowe|8.18.09 @ 3:40PM|#
guys, buy my new book:
"Saying 'Yes' to doggie death panels: when rationing means saving a
leg for leftovers"
|8.18.09 @ 3:43PM|#
"Most likely, to eat them just feels wrong, not because it's
yucky, but because it seems you're eating your friend. And you
are."
The bulk of my friends are women. I have had the pleasure of eating
several of them. And guess what? They seem to like it!
|8.18.09 @ 3:44PM|#
Well, at least the victims of one of Radley's "Isolated Incidents" will have something to eat once the SWAT team realizes they have the wrong address.
EscapedWestOfTheBigMuddy|8.18.09 @ 3:47PM|#
From the "Expanding Circle" link:
The decline of religion and the collapse of communism have left but the ideology of the free market whose only message is: consume, and work hard so you can earn money to consume more.
I see this kind of claim all the time, and while it comports well
with the tabloid accounts of various media and political figures,
it simply does not fit the people I meet in real life.
Most folks have some idea of what happiness might look like for
them, and it usually is not just a bigger TV, barbecue,
and SUV. For most folks it seems to be either
peace-n-quiet-n-safety or work-to-do-outta-love-not-need.
And it is easy to make fun of this sort of thing (look at StuffWhitePeopleLike, which
is funny as hell), but frankly, these goals are a lot more
"spiritually sophisticated" than Peter Singer's caricature quoted
above.
Chefonomics|8.18.09 @ 3:49PM|#
beef, pork, chicken or fish,
Replace fish with Rabbits (and perhaps pigeons) and you have the
small set of animals that can breed at any time of year (besides
humans). In other words, they're cheaper!
Chefonomics|8.18.09 @ 3:54PM|#
what about guinea pigs?
You're right. Can't forget the rodents and primates!
|8.18.09 @ 3:56PM|#
"He's dead. They stuffed him with pages torn from his favorite book. Could you cook him?"
The Chad|8.18.09 @ 3:58PM|#
I had alligator at the Taste of Seattle fair a few weeks
ago, and it was great.
Are you sure you live here? It's the Bite of Seattle.
|8.18.09 @ 4:01PM|#
I always forget it's "Bite of Seattle" and say "Taste". Just one of those things. It took me a while to say "Bartell's" instead of "Barrett" or something else wrong. I'm used to CVS, damn it!
Zeb|8.18.09 @ 4:03PM|#
It has always seemed utterly ridiculous that certain species of animal get legal protection from being eaten. There are excess horses in many areas. Why not eat them, or feed them to dogs?
Warty|8.18.09 @ 4:03PM|#
What do dogs taste like? I suspect somewhat like pigs, given what they eat.
Smith|8.18.09 @ 4:04PM|#
When a loved one discorporates, it is always important to consume the food so that you can grok the fullness.
Xeones|8.18.09 @ 4:05PM|#
I am totally philosophically fucked up on this
one.
If it makes you feel better, some dogs will eat us
if given a chance. So will pigs, for that matter.
|8.18.09 @ 4:09PM|#
Out of curiosity, does anyone here think it should be legal for you to eat a deceased family member, provided the died and kept well? Why or why not?
|8.18.09 @ 4:10PM|#
Jeff P
Don't forget:
Schnauzer Schnitzel
Corgi Cakes
German Shepherd's Pie
Collie a la King
Big Mastiffs
The Angry Optimist|8.18.09 @ 4:10PM|#
does anyone here think it should be legal for you to eat a deceased family member, provided the died and kept well? Why or why not?
Yes, without the provisions. If people want to be gross, let them
be gross.
|8.18.09 @ 4:11PM|#
val,
So, an insane kid decides to kill his parents. He eats them as part
of the now-legal mourning process. Evidence?
|8.18.09 @ 4:11PM|#
Animal lovers in New Zealand want to make it illegal for
people to eat their pets, after a Tongan family killed and
barbequed their pet dog.
Wait, it's not illegal for Tongans to eat animal lovers' pets? It
seems like a simple property rights issue to me.
|8.18.09 @ 4:13PM|#
Out of curiosity, does anyone here think it should be legal
for you to eat a deceased family member, provided the died and kept
well? Why or why not?
Sure, why not?
There was a reason I posted a quote from The Cook the Thief His
Wife & Her Lover, you know.
Corvair|8.18.09 @ 4:13PM|#
The Lewis and Clark party found many indian tribes that served
dog when feasting. One of the two men (Clark IIRC) said in his
journal that the best food he had on the entire trip was dog.
I can't see drawing any lines that would declare "edible"
species.
|8.18.09 @ 4:14PM|#
Out of curiosity, does anyone here think it should be legal
for you to eat a deceased family member, provided the died and kept
well? Why or why not?
I don't think dead bodies necessarily become the property of their
relatives, in the usual sense, so it might be a complicated matter.
But if someone put it in their will that they wanted this to be
done, I'm with TAO.
|8.18.09 @ 4:14PM|#
I ate buffalo and bear and elk meat while on vacation. The bear meat tasted surprisingly like beef.
|8.18.09 @ 4:15PM|#
Why should it be illegal to eat a family pet, yet completely legal to have an animal lover?
|8.18.09 @ 4:16PM|#
Oh, and if someone wants to eat their pets, I'm not going to
advocate using government proxies to point guns at them and put
them in cages.
Simple rule -- don't ask government agents to do something that you
would find morally reprehensible to do personally to your
neighbors.
Warty|8.18.09 @ 4:16PM|#
val,
It is believed by some that the disease spread easily and rapidly in the Fore people due to their endocannibalistic funeral practices, in which relatives consumed the deceased to return the "life force" of the deceased to his hamlet, a Fore societal subunit.[7] The dysmorphism evident in the infection rates-kuru was 8-9 times more prevalent in women and children than in men at its peak-is because while the men of the village took the choice cuts, the women and children would eat the rest of the body including the brain, where the prion particles were particularly concentrated. There is also the strong possibility that it was passed on to women and children more easily because they took on the task of cleaning relatives after death and may have had open sores and cuts on their hands.[5]. Although ingestion itself of the prion particles would not lead to the disease, there was a high degree of transmission if the prion particles could reach the subcutaneous tissue. With elimination of cannibalism because of Australian law enforcement and local Christian missionaries' efforts, Kuru rapidly declined among the Fore. However, the mean incubation period of the disease is 14 years and cases were reported with latencies of 40 years for those who were most genetically resilient.
|8.18.09 @ 4:17PM|#
or feed them to dogs
Already happens. There are dog food "protein component" factories
where ever there is a racetrack in KY.
The Angry Optimist|8.18.09 @ 4:18PM|#
I recently dined on my grandfather's liver, with some fava beans
and nice chianti*
*Just kidding - there's no such thing as "nice" chianti.
Vanessa|8.18.09 @ 4:19PM|#
When my dad was a kid in the rural South, early 1940s, he sold
rabbits door to door. If the customer wanted to eat it that day,
he'd kill it with a hammer to the head. If they wanted to eat it
later, he'd sell it to them alive. Then again, if it was his turn
to fry the chicken for dinner, he had to go in the back yard and
break its neck first.
Not that I don't think eating dogs is yucky, because I do.
Xeones|8.18.09 @ 4:19PM|#
Warty, if i decide i want to risk kuru 'cause my relatives are just that damn delicious, who are you to stop me?
|8.18.09 @ 4:24PM|#
They should keep dog meat legal but make having pigs as pets
illegal.
My beacon should not be allowed on the couch unless it is on a
plate!
|8.18.09 @ 4:26PM|#
When told about the prevalance of battered women in America, I thought "and I've been eating mine plain".
The Angry Optimist|8.18.09 @ 4:29PM|#
hey, the probability of surviving the consumption of fugu is 93%. Just don't eat the liver, yo.
SIV|8.18.09 @ 4:30PM|#
"Libertarian purity test time!"
Need I even comment?
Good to see some of the anti-cockfighting commenters at least
support some animal property rights .
kinnath|8.18.09 @ 4:32PM|#
*Just kidding - there's no such thing as "nice"
chianti.
Brunello di Montelcino is 100% Sangiovese from Chianti. It meets
the origin control guidelines to be labelled Chianti, but that
would destroy its market value.
Xeones|8.18.09 @ 4:35PM|#
I encourage you to, Xeoenes. I'll even kill them for you if
you like.
Only if you can, somehow, miraculously, defeat them in combat.
The Angry Optimist|8.18.09 @ 4:37PM|#
ProL - from respectable restaurants with chefs who know what they are doing, I bet it's 100%. The problem is that the government there lumps in all consumption of fugu, including the liver! Kind of like how our government has a very expansive definition of "alcohol-related" for the purposes of driving-related fatalities.
|8.18.09 @ 4:39PM|#
If a guy fish goes own on a girl fish, will she still get mad if he says she smells like fish?
Uh|8.18.09 @ 4:39PM|#
Reasoned arguments exist, but they are give force by a body
politic that is mildly grossed out by gay sex
For what it's worth, I'm only grossed out by man-on-man or
ugly-lesbian sex. The cute-lesbian sex, however, is A-OK
with me, because I am a progressive. Thank you, and goodnight.
|8.18.09 @ 4:41PM|#
Committing suicide via fugu isn't the same as "death
from fugu consumption."
Anyone here ever try it?
Xeones|8.18.09 @ 4:42PM|#
Anyone here ever try it?
Yes. Turns out i'm immune to fugu poison! I ate 15 livers and they
were GREAT.
Warty|8.18.09 @ 4:44PM|#
If a guy fish goes own on a girl fish, will she still get
mad if he says she smells like fish?
And that makes me a saaaaaad panda.
Warty|8.18.09 @ 4:46PM|#
SugarFree, feminists hate being eaten out anyway. They all secretly want somebody to act out their rape fantasies for them.
The Angry Optimist|8.18.09 @ 4:48PM|#
Jesus Christ, I think of myself as a relatively open
person, but that story was awful.
Thanks, SugarFree.
robc|8.18.09 @ 4:52PM|#
Farm raised fugu has a 100% safety rating, IIRC. The poison that
builds up in the liver (and the female sex organs, apparently) only
exists in the wild fugu.
BTW, dont trust me on this, research before your next fugu liver
binge.
Biff|8.18.09 @ 4:53PM|#
"My beacon should not be allowed on the couch unless it is on a
plate!"
I Hate Pig Worship.
Ska|8.18.09 @ 4:55PM|#
Never, ever, ever go down on a feminist.
The link was blocked here, but when I saw "10 days in the life of a
tampon" I didn't mind so much. Which prompts me to ask, do
feminists have some kind of secret permanent tampons?
robc|8.18.09 @ 4:56PM|#
http://www.gadling.com/2008/05/08/big-in-japan-japanese-farmers-raise-poison-free-blowfish/
|8.18.09 @ 4:58PM|#
What's the point of fugu if I don't have a chance of dying after consuming it? Don't restaurants offering fugu have an obligation to disclose such utter non-lethality to consumers?
T|8.18.09 @ 4:58PM|#
While I find the idea of eating dog creepy and wrong, I can't
justify a law against it.
I ain't doing it, though. What if my dog figures out I've done it,
gets paranoid, and decides to take me out first? Then I've gotta
beat the dog down, then the wife tries to get me for beating the
dog. No, I think it's best not to go there. All I see down that
road is bad.
|8.18.09 @ 5:00PM|#
I have not had fugu, but supposedly it doesn't really taste like anything and is only eaten for the danger of eating. So what is the point of non-poisonous fugu?
robc|8.18.09 @ 5:00PM|#
ProLib,
Another article I read that I didnt link said basically the same
thing. The fugu is so mild flavored that paying a premium for
farm-raised safe fugu isnt worth it with much better tasting and
cheaper fish on the menu.
Ska|8.18.09 @ 5:02PM|#
Maybe I'll have to read it at home; I'd just hate to have it in my browser history next to all those lesbian fisting sites.
|8.18.09 @ 5:08PM|#
Well, I suppose it would be good for dates, provided that you know and the date doesn't. "Let's walk on the edge, baby, and eat some fugu. Yeah, that's how I roll."
|8.18.09 @ 5:09PM|#
One more question. You're watching a stage play. A banquet is in progress. The guests are enjoying an appetizer of raw oysters. The entree consists of boiled dog....
Jimbo|8.18.09 @ 6:34PM|#
Even though I met my wife in Memphis, I agreed to go back to her
home in Taegu, ROK for the wedding.
Her father had a nice german shepherd on his farm. Nice dog, well
mannered, but it was clearly a farm dog. He had a couple of jobs to
do and if you wanted to treat him nice, that was gravy to
him.
On a return visit several years later, I asked where the dog was
and the answer was "Oh, he was getting old, so we ate him."
Since I was in Rome, I just adjusted my toga and said
nothing.
Turns out they weren't willing to return the favor. When they found
out that I liked to eat squirrel, they were absolutely horrified
and I found out it was actually possible to sink lower in their
opinion of me.
Jimbo|8.18.09 @ 6:36PM|#
By the way, I ate the real wild fugu in Kobe, Japan and it was a
real let down.
It is a real bland fish and worse of all it turns out that the
poison bits won't kill you after a couple of bites.
I was all revved up to see someone grab their throats and keel over
and then they tell me that it takes a couple of days to kick it if
you get bad fugu.
Robert|8.18.09 @ 8:16PM|#
Couldn't fava + chianti = danger? MAO inhibitors in the fava
beans, tyramine in the aged red wine.
So alligator tastes like Seattle? Are you sure it's not the
Bight of Seattle? Like the Bight of Biafra,
etc.?
hmm|8.18.09 @ 8:28PM|#
I like my pets. You shoot one or harm one and you are going to
have a bad day. If I'm starving, pet is fucked. I wouldn't begrudge
people eating what they raise. I might not want to know them, but I
wouldn't stop them.
The more important question is what does...
just click. NSFW (maybe)
To avoid discrimination
bohica|8.18.09 @ 9:04PM|#
I ate a dog last night. . .
I just didn't realize it until I woke up next to her this
morning.
jtuf|8.18.09 @ 9:30PM|#
Some day, I want to form Epicurians Against Tofu and protest vegitarian restaurants.
|8.18.09 @ 10:59PM|#
As both a former employee of Reason and a current resident of
Tonga who owns a dog here, I think this article tells us two things
that surprisingly no one touched on - first off is that this dog
was PRIVATELY OWNED! Tongans are notorious about "borrowing" things
and having little respect for private property, and that's the real
crime - that they took someone else's property, killed it, and ate
it. We watch our dog carefully here, because of the lack of respect
for property rights.
The second point is that some cultures are just better than others
- you should have the right to do what you want, but just because
you do doesn't make it objectively right. Dog eating can be legal,
so long as you eat your own dog, but really... ew.
MJ|8.18.09 @ 11:07PM|#
"What if I clone and eat myself?"
Then perhaps you'll disppear into a singularity as your clone looks
on...
or...
...you'll prove you have no bloody idea what "clone" means.
|8.18.09 @ 11:54PM|#
Until there's a 30-minute segment on FOOD network on how to best
cook the household pet, i don't see any trend...
"this week on Diners Drive-in and dives..."
I'd guess the "beef" hot dogs that were purchased this past weekend
are a very loose yet sinister replication of anything remotely to
be called "beef"
|8.18.09 @ 11:58PM|#
Can you hear them Clarisse...can you hear the screaming of the
lambs ?
"I recently dined on my grandfather's liver, with some fava beans
and nice chianti*"
hmm|8.19.09 @ 12:02AM|#
first off is that this dog was PRIVATELY OWNED! Tongans are
notorious about "borrowing" things and having little respect for
private property, and that's the real crime - that they took
someone else's property, killed it, and ate it.
They killed and ate someone else's dog? That's fucked up. Screw
watching the dog. I'd chain his ass in the front yard as bait and
make sure at least 15 magazines were full. It'd be a fucking
tongain turkey shoot.
That's just fucked up. Steal a pet and eat it.
Kolohe|8.19.09 @ 4:56AM|#
Yeah, there was a case in Hawaii last year where two immigrants
from micronesian (or maybe the PI?) were convicted for stealing an
8 yr old german shepard and eating it. Interestingly enough, as
part of the plea deal (and I believe with the consent and input of
the dog's owner) the thedft charges were dropped and the sentence
is being served solely for animal cruelty.
http://www.kitv.com/news/20054492/detail.html
Abdul|8.19.09 @ 8:54AM|#
Like J sub D, I ate dog in Korea on a couple of occassions.
There's no illusions when you eat it. Dog restaurants advertise
their specialty by hanging a haunch of dog on a hook outside the
door. (Some pork restaurants do the same with pig's heads).
It's not the best tasting meat, which probably explains why it's
not more widely raised as livestock. But still, it's an animal like
any other.
|8.19.09 @ 1:59PM|#
Even koreans and chinese and other asians who eat dog don't actually eat their PETS.
proud tamasi\'i slc,ut.|8.20.09 @ 2:21PM|#
Proud Tamasi'I[slc-USA]
I don't know why the big fuss about eating dog meat.People in many
parts of the world eat lizards,snakes,insects,cat,dog and any thing
that taste good and consider a good meal. We are living in a very
hungry world and,with the annual balooning of it's population,many
countries have a hard time feeding and taking care of it's
people.The future doesn't looks good either,.So if some individuals
,people,or cultures find new ways and mean to solve hunger and
starvation to live another day,by all mean let them be.Lets stop
the hyprocacy.Leave the Tongan family alone or those of you who
strongly oppose buy some beef or lamp chops and give the
family.[But I know you won't do that] .Now if the family kill their
pet dog in a very humane way and cook it,that's OK.If they kill the
neighbour's pet dog and cook it,that is not OK,and that is
stealing.Throughout human history,human admitted canibalism as a
way to preserve life when the choice was to eat and live or not to
eat and die.I ate dog meat when I was eight .I ate frog when I was
twenty two,eventhough frog is not consider food in my country and
culture.Meat is meat. Here in The US they use all kind of meat
beside the common one we all accustom
to[beef,pork,lamp,chicken,etc].A story in the 70's or80's of an
airplane that crashed on the ANDES MOUNTAINS South America carrying
a Rugby team for a tournament in Argentina,and the very few that
survive did it by eating some of the bodies of their fellow
comrades[cannibalism save them].So you see ,this is not a common
practice but it sure help at the time.So I 'm sure that the Tongan
family have other meat for food,beside the dog.I also know that
this is not a common practice.Thing like this happen sometimes.All
I'm saying is just because I don't eat certain meat or food,why
should enforce on others.Let's be open minded because we are living
in a very diverse society,and let us also be mindful of each other
for the is the unknown,especially on what to eat to continue
surviving........[remember FOOD IS A PERSONAL CHOICE and not a
CIVIL or JUDICIALCHOICE .]
proud tamasi\'i, slc.ut. (corr|8.20.09 @ 2:33PM|#
Proud Tamasi'I[slc-USA]
I don't know why the big fuss about eating dog meat.People in many
parts of the world eat lizards,snakes,insects,cat,dog and any thing
that taste good and consider a good meal. We are living in a very
hungry world and,with the annual balooning of it's population,many
countries have a hard time feeding and taking care of it's
people.The future doesn't looks good either,.So if some individuals
,people,or cultures find new ways and mean to solve hunger and
starvation to live another day,by all mean let them be.Lets stop
the hypocracy.Leave the Tongan family alone or those of you who
strongly oppose buy some beef or lamp chops and give the
family.[But I know you won't do that] .Now if the family kill their
pet dog in a very humane way and cook it,that's OK.If they kill the
neighbour's pet dog and cook it,that is not OK,and that is
stealing.Throughout human history,human admitted canibalism as a
way to preserve life when the choice was to eat and live or not to
eat and die.I ate dog meat when I was eight .I ate frog when I was
twenty two,eventhough frog is not consider food in my country and
culture.Meat is meat. Here in The US they use all kind of meat
beside the common one we all accustom
to[beef,pork,lamp,chicken,etc].A story in the 70's or80's of an
airplane that crashed on the ANDES MOUNTAINS South America carrying
a Rugby team for a tournament in Argentina,and the very few that
survive did it by eating some of the bodies of their fellow
comrades[cannibalism save them].So you see ,this is not a common
practice but it sure help at the time.So I 'm sure that the Tongan
family have other meat for food,beside the dog.I also know that
this is not a common practice.Thing like this happen sometimes.All
I'm saying is just because I don't eat certain meat or food,why
should enforce on others.Let's be open minded because we are living
in a very diverse society,and let us also be mindful of each other
for the future is the unknown,especially on what to eat to continue
surviving........[remember FOOD IS A PERSONAL CHOICE and not a
CIVIL or JUDICIALCHOICE .]
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