Would Obama-As-The-Penguin Posters Have Been OK?

Vandalism is likely to be the charge in the case of the Clermont, Florida Joker posters. An unnamed individual has been questioned by local police in connection with placement of signs around town showing the familiar image of President Obama as Heath Ledger's edgy, reinvented Joker in 2008's rebooted, dark, edgy Batman 2.0 reimagining The Dark Knight. I just spoke with Clermont Police Capt. Eric Jensen about the circumstances of the interview and the case-building process described by the Orlando Sentinel here:

City officials, meanwhile, are trying to determine what local crimes might be associated with the posting of the images on public and private properties. They've also been busy ripping down the sticky signs because they're a violation of city ordinance regarding illegal signs.

Jensen said he doesn't have a good count on the number of posters put up because, he said, "People are going out and tearing them down."

In a press release put out late today, Jensen said the suspect "also asked if he could video tape the encounter with the officers." Clermont Police declined that request.

Asked how the police had veto power over the videotaping of a voluntary and cooperative interview with a non-arrested person of interest, Capt. Jensen said that the police would have refused to conduct the interview if the suspect had insisted on filming it. He chose not to elaborate. He did not know whether the interview had been conducted at the police station or the suspect's home.

Explaining the difference betweeen how the police treat standard political campaign signage and how they're treating the Joker posters, Jensen said: "In those cases usually the signs are mounted on a stick in the ground. These signs were glued to private, city, state and federal property. They have to be scraped off, all the glue has to be removed, and the property has to be washed off. So there's a difference."

No charges have been filed. Jensen said the police are still building a case, which they will then present to the local state attorney.

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  • <strike>strike through</strike||

    How long before they start going after the printers of these posters? Don't think it can't happen.

  • ||

    "Building a case". More like playing w their puds. Here's hoping more go up all over.

  • ||

    Dude should've said "Fuck you, arrest me!". Volunteering to be interviewed by the fuzz is never smart.

  • Xeones||

    Seanbaby did a Cheney-as-the-Penguin comic a while back and it wasn't even a little bit controversial. There's a double standard, though, when you go after the left's guy. Obama SHOULD be hit just as hard as Bush, and as often, and for pretty much all the same reasons.

    Maybe it's not terribly germane, but i wanted an excuse to post that comic.

  • Barry-O the ASL Ape (transcrib||

    BARRY-O NO SMILE MAN NO PENGUIN MAN

    BARRY-O YES YES G-R-O-D-D

  • ||

    This sounds perfectly reasonable from a libertarian/property rights perspective. You have the right to free speech, but not in my living room.

  • hmm||

    Hmm looks like maybe something to do to kill sometime this weekend.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    OMG, if you can't see how terrifying an altered picture of the president is, you all need to adjust the eyeholes in your white hoods.

    Also, I wouldn't want the guy taping me questioning him either. He probably just would have altered the footage to make the officers look like Mr. Freeze or something.

  • hmm||

    My hood is red. I get to be the grand puhbah.

  • <strike>strike through</strike||

    BELMONT, CALIFORNIA AUTHORITIES BUST OBAMA JOKER PRINTER UNDER HATE CRIME STATUTE

    I kid, I kid.

  • Elemenope||

    In a press release put out late today, Jensen said the suspect "also asked if he could video tape the encounter with the officers." Clermont Police declined that request.

    Why on Earth would you *ask for permission* to do such a thing? Video tape first, apologize later. Better than asking for permission and getting the inevitable "fuck yourself".

  • Not Radley||

    Why on Earth would you *ask for permission* to do such a thing?

    He likes his dog?

  • ||

    Geez, just strike a deal with him to do some anti-vandalism work, or pick up litter from the side of the road. The notion that they are spending taxpayer money to figure out the best charge for him is foolish.

  • ||

    What's the big deal? Obviously, the charge is treason.

  • *||

    It's obviously a hate crime.

  • ||

    I used to see anti-Bush shit plastered on walls all the time. Nobody went after the people who did that, and rightly so. This is fucking ridiculous. It's some paper stuck to a wall. Yes, it's a violation of private property, but it's so minor as to be almost negligible, and normally the police couldn't give less of a shit. It's repulsive how political this has gotten.

  • *||

    Yes, it's a violation of private property

    Public property.

  • ||

    Hate-mongering traitor.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Public property.

    That postmaster was practically in tears having to scrape those two Obama/Joker posters off his building.

    (...until FedEx and UPS workers showed up and showed him how to remove them more efficiently.)

  • The Libertarian Guy||

    Someone's gonna get a surprise IRS audit...

  • Elemenope||

    I used to see anti-Bush shit plastered on walls all the time. Nobody went after the people who did that, and rightly so. This is fucking ridiculous. It's some paper stuck to a wall. Yes, it's a violation of private property, but it's so minor as to be almost negligible, and normally the police couldn't give less of a shit. It's repulsive how political this has gotten.

    When people perceive the stakes to be very high, they begin to act like idiots of uncommon caliber.

    If you think they're gonna off grandma, and the other guy thinks you are a plague-bearing asshole for saying you think they're gonna off grandma, shit gets real fast.

  • Joseph H||

    Here are some alternative Obama Batman villain posters: http://optoons.blogspot.com/2009/08/less-obscure-obama-batman-villain.html

  • Tricky Prickears ||

    So many things wrong here.


    First, I would vote for The Joker over Obama any day.

    Second, always, always always always always always always always have a lawyer present when being questioned by police. Admit nothing. Deny everything. At least until there's a representative from the DA's office present who is authorized to make a deal.

    3. The Hitler-Obama posters are much closer to the truth.

    4. A while back, I had my license suspended for 6 months. I had a car, parked in the street in front of my apartment. Living in NJ, I made damn sure that it was current, regarding registration, insurance an inspection. But for some reason the cops slapped a big red "Abandoned Vehicle" sticker on it. I went to the police station and showed the cops the paper work and they said, "OK. We'll make a note of it. You can take the sticker off." Oh really? I can take the sticker off. I spent 1/2 hour trying to get all that nasty glue off the fucking window. So, let the Clermont Police go out and remove the signs. Better yet, use some Federal Stimulus money to hire someone to go out and remove all the damned signs.

  • Pink Cosmotarian||

  • Elemenope||

    First, I would vote for The Joker over Obama any day.

    If you are being at all serious, that makes you, with all due respect, sort of a moron. One guy has policy proposals you may not like while the other *kills people for fun*.

  • Tricky Prickears ||

    ...the other *kills people for fun*.

    No. The other guy creates Anarchy. Big difference.

  • ||

    Elemenope,

    Let's think this through. If the Joker were elected, most likely, he'd never serve. He'd just slaughter a bunch of people at the inauguration--mostly members of Congress, then go to Joker prison.

    I kid, I kid.

  • ||

    If you are being at all serious, that makes you, with all due respect, sort of a moron. One guy has policy proposals you may not like while the other *kills people for fun*.

    No, no, he meant the Caesar Romero Joker. I'd vote for anyone who can beat Batman in a surfing competition.

  • ||

    Episiarch,

    Absolutely. Let's face it, his was the coolest Joker.

  • hmm||

    An artist needs to do a famous villain portfolio of Obamas. Joker, Borg, dr. evil, goldfinger, penguin, bluto, cruella, magneto, dastardly, skeletor, mummra, megatron, cobra commander, gargamell, shredder, kaa, captain hook, scar, montgomery burns, cylon, the evil guys from stargate omg too many...

    It could be a campbells soup Wharhol type work.

  • Paul||

    The cover of The Advocate magazine has the Hope! image of Obama with the caption "Nope!"

    Priceless.

  • ||

    And Frank Gorshin was the coolest Riddler.

  • ||

    It was never rational to expect that an inexperienced, untested, unproven cipher would provide us hope of anything more than the Democratic machine humming along. And that's bad even if you vote that way.

  • perilisk||

    "If you are being at all serious, that makes you, with all due respect, sort of a moron. One guy has policy proposals you may not like while the other *kills people for fun*."

    Hey, our last vice-president shot someone in the face. We're not lowering our standards that much here.

  • ||

    Absolutely. In fact, they should've retired the character in his honor.

  • Elemenope||

    No, no, he meant the Caesar Romero Joker. I'd vote for anyone who can beat Batman in a surfing competition.

    That was one of the only episodes of the original show that I've seen.

  • Elemenope||

    Hey, our last vice-president shot someone in the face. We're not lowering our standards that much here.

    And then got the guy who was shot to apologize for the incident. So, yeah, point.

  • Tim Cavanaugh||

    Fist of Etiquette wins thread not only for the joke but for a link where the honorific "Known radio talk show host and internet personality Alex Jones" is spoken.

  • KyleG||

    I'm liking that poster more and more. The dead eyes and fucked up smile really come together to form the perfect Washington bureaucrat. I don't even think a caption is needed.

  • ||

    Those were infowars.com posters. They should be torn down. Keep the socialist versions up, but tear down the nutjob troofer crap.

  • Geotpf||

    Charges of vandalism or illegal posting of signs on public property (or private property, if the owner of said property did not consent) are completely appropiate in this case.

  • Elemenope||

    Charges of vandalism or illegal posting of signs on public property (or private property, if the owner of said property did not consent) are completely appropiate in this case.

    Probably. But there is the question of uneven enforcement someone mentioned above. If it is not normal practice to take such postings seriously, then neither should this one be. Police discretion is, roughly, an invitation to bullshit.

  • ||

    ugh, alex jones and his infowars minions. these guys make birthers look sane.

  • Franklin Harris||

    This is crazy. Clearly, Obama is Ra's ah Ghul.

  • hmm||

    I don't mind the infonuts doing it. They are just as annoying and out of touch with reality as most other interest groups. At least they are doing it for something other than taking my income, or forcing more legislation.

    Plus I mean seriously who is more fun to talk to? Angry upset vegan progressive guy in baggy clothes and reeking of curry or whacked out semi stoned infowars guy in hoodie carrying a backpack full of all kinds of weird shit and mask.

  • anonymous||

    "Better yet, use some Federal Stimulus money to hire someone to go out and remove all the damned signs."

    You know, you're right. The guy that put this up is a hero for creating jobs in the city. He damn well deserves a medal.

  • Joe||

    I'd like to see an Obama-as-Red-Skull poster. The media would have a field day with that one.

  • ||

    hmmm - you have a point. i was at a friend's artshow recently and the hippy organic artsy douches were quite annoying. i spent two hours talking to an infonut about the joys of Slayer and thrash in general.

  • hmm||

    Could hire some to put them up and then hire some to tear them down.

    You just doubled the effect. Someone call Krugman we have a multiplier!

  • hmm||

    LoL Red Skull. The best of Nazi and then communist. The ever changing face of what America, or American government (Captain America) saw as evil. How poignant. Good call. Obscure reference, but good call.

  • The Libertarian Guy||

    Joe, you raise an interesting point: The Red Skull is a shade that doesn't actually appear in the human color palette.

    How, then, could whiny liberal douchebags call it "a racist portrayal of our beloved, infallible dear leader" (said, perhaps, by Keith Olbermann)?

  • Elemenope||

    How, then, could whiny liberal douchebags call it "a racist portrayal of our beloved, infallible dear leader" (said, perhaps, by Keith Olbermann)?

    If we judged every ideology by its whiners, we would all be nihilists.

    Until we watched The Big Lebowski. Then we couldn't even believe in nothing.

  • The Libertarian Guy||

    Oh, c'mon, El... you gotta admit, Olbermann's a whiny douchebag who would, if Obama were to light a kitten on fire, say "well, it must be part of His Divine Will".

  • hmm||

    Olberman is still just bitter stain on television. Dumped by ESPN, dumped by Fox, and finally picked up by the bottom of the network news food chain. Oddly the networks that got rid of him have managed have all gone on to do quite well while his flagship has consistently tanked. He even managed to tank when his rhetoric was at its most popular and Bush was fucking the pooch.

    I can't stand any of them, but he really cheeses me off as a craptastic shrill shitstain of a political hack.

  • hmm||

    holy fuck I dislike him so much I forgot how to type.

  • ||

    the dude abides.

  • Elemenope||

    holy fuck I dislike him so much I forgot how to type.

    LOL!

    Olbermann, Hannity, and Beck are my kryptonite. I can't listen to any of those three without wanting to destroy all my sensory organs with sharp objects.

  • jeffy||

    history:

    http://henryjenkins.org/2009/08/unmasking_the_joker.html

  • ||

    "Olbermann, Hannity, and Beck are my kryptonite. I can't listen to any of those three without wanting to destroy all my sensory organs with sharp objects."

    I can't stand Olberman, Hannity or Mike Huckabee but I like Beck. Beck has been getting better and better lately. I like him when he is being philosophical more than political. He is being more and more philosophical.

  • hmm||

    Hannity and Olberman are pretty much the same for me. I give Hannity some credit for not managing to get tossed off two networks for being a douche.

    Beck is just a clown. I watch him from time to time. He is all about the showmanship.

    I don't listen to talk radio unless there is a baseball game on.

  • ||

    I can go along with the Hannity and Olberman hate. Beck IMO, is quite good when he leaves out the shtick. His serious verbal essayage is very tolerable and on point.

  • ||

    "His [Beck's] serious verbal essayage"

    His verbal essays can be quite brilliant. I also like that he sometimes digs in depth into connections no one else is. Like the connections between ACORN and other organizations.

  • ||

    The dancing in lederhosen(sp?) bit? Utter garbage.

  • Elemenope||

    His serious verbal essayage is very tolerable and on point.

    I can't take a guy seriously when his opinion swings from "America's health care system is a murderous disaster!" to "America's healthcare system is second-to-none and a precious national resource!" in the space of six months when it is ideologically convenient.

  • ||

    "I don't listen to talk radio unless there is a baseball game on."

    I am actually a Glenn Beck insider. I subscribe to his site so I can download MP3s of his show and listen while I am exercising. I work for a living so I can't listen to his show live.

  • Plant Immigration Rights Suppo||

    "I can't take a guy seriously when his opinion swings from "America's health care system is a murderous disaster!" to "America's healthcare system is second-to-none and a precious national resource!" in the space of six months when it is ideologically convenient."

    Have you heard of comparrisons? For example, if I told you that you had to spend the rest of your life in jail and you could pick any jail on the planet would you pick a jail in North Korea or in California? Even the best jail in the world [from the inmates' point of view] is still a jail.

  • ||

    lmnop, he does have to tow the lion a bit.

    but seriously. I catch him once in awhile. I haven't watched or listened regularly enough to notice self contradiction.

  • Elemenope||

    PIRS:

    Yeah, that is so not what he meant. He was waxing poetic about how limitlessly awesome it is. Nice try though; a good college try.

  • ||

    Then again, I still think O'Reilly is generally thoughtful and wise. (other than his habit of interupting his guests)

  • ||

    "Yeah, that is so not what he meant. He was waxing poetic about how limitlessly awesome it is. Nice try though; a good college try."

    I have heard him complain about the healthcare system. When he does so, he points to government regulation as the major problem. Also, and this may be what you are referring to, he had a personal experience in which he felt he did not get the best of care. There is a difference between saying "I had a horrible meal at Restaurant X, don't go to Restaurant X" and complaining about all American restaurants in general.

  • Elemenope||

    There is a difference between saying "I had a horrible meal at Restaurant X, don't go to Restaurant X" and complaining about all American restaurants in general.

    That is true only if you don't go on to argue that your one experience is representative of the general experience. Which is exactly what he did.

  • Elemenope||

    Then again, I still think O'Reilly is generally thoughtful and wise. (other than his habit of interrupting his guests)

    Honestly, if that guy just smoked a joint before each interview, he might not be half-bad.

  • ||

    "That is true only if you don't go on to argue that your one experience is representative of the general experience. Which is exactly what he did."

    I have never heard him do that. I may have missed one or two episodes but I never heard him do that.

  • ||

    BTW, whenever I try to italicize or underline text it comes out plane vanilla when I post. What is your secret?

  • hmm||

    It's HTML

    blockquote

    and so on

  • hmm||

    I actually got to meet him [O'Reilly] once. 1) He is a fellow giant, so we automatically bonded. 2) He was actually a pretty nice guy, at least he was to me and everyone I saw him working with. My wife worked with him and his staff for a bit, and she said they were all nice. Even when things were going wrong at one point.

  • hmm||

    I don't agree with his police and abortion positions, but those topics are generally touchy for a lot of people.

    I look at all of them as entertainers first, which I guess helps my views of them. Except Olberman, he's just a fullstop pretentious fucktard.

  • ||

    Thanks!
    thanks!
    tag!


  • PIRS||

    is this scratched out?

  • ||

    Thanks hmm,

    Who ever said comment threads were not educational?

  • ||

    # Franklin Harris | August 14, 2009, 6:58pm | #
    # This is crazy. Clearly, Obama is Ra's ah Ghul.

    And Al Franken is the joker. Damn straight.

  • Elemenope||

    And Al Franken is the joker. Damn straight.

    It's a least a mite more sensible than Obama as the Joker.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Fist of Etiquette wins thread...

    Personally, I don't know I should be able to win a thread by setting up my own joke, but I'll take it.

  • Libertard||

    It sucks that infowars decided to change "socialism" to "new world order" and "infowars.com". Shameless, in fact.

  • ||

    Obummer is less trustworthy than the Joker! Nothing he says can be be trusted.

    Watch this video. You'll see obama lie like a dog in his very own words.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3JKDTBOYKg

    People need to wake up and see this lying fraud for who he is, an America hating, Saudi King bowing, dictator loving, former cocaine addict, racist Kenyan usurper dirt-bag Chicago thug!

  • The Libertarian Guy||

    To the "Olbermann, Hannity, and Beck are my kryptonite" and variations thereof:

    I feel the same way about Limbaugh and Ed Schultz, though I can't figure out which one of them is the "mirror-universe" evil one, because neither has a goatee.

    Ten points for non-Trek nerds who get the reference.


    This is why I listen to Derry Brownfield, Rollye James, and Free Talk Live. Those folks, compared to the cretins like Michael Savage and his mirror-image universe doppelganger, Rachel Maddow, are much more palatable... and they're not insane, which is always a plus.

  • The Libertarian Guy||

    "Then again, I still think O'Reilly is generally thoughtful and wise. (other than his habit of interrupting his guests)"

    Hannity wins that hands-down.

    Back when I could choke down five minutes of him and Chinless Colmes, they had some fuck from the New Black Panther Party on, and Hannity interrupted said fuck, prompting this response:

    "You don't interrupt a black man. That's racist."

    It was the only time I've *ever* felt sorry for Sean Hannity, though if he'd keep a dictionary on his desk, he could easily have refuted the fuck from the NBPP.

  • hmm||

    I feel the same way about Limbaugh and Ed Schultz...

    I don't even consider them.

  • The Libertarian Guy||

    For kicks, I'll listen to five minutes of Limbaugh, and five minutes of Schultz, and try to decide which one should be fed toes-first into a wood chipper.

    I keep coming up "simultaneously", but it would have to be a large-capacity chipper.

    Guilty pleasures, however:

    1. I love the Paul Shanklin bits. Justice Brothers rule!
    2. I will listen all three hours - or as much as possible - if Walter E. Williams is subbing for Limbaugh.

  • The Libertarian Guy||

    Shit on a stick, the link won't work. And here I went to the Limbaugh site hoping for a freebie. Now I gotta pour bleach on the hard drive.

  • hmm||

    "You don't interrupt a black man. That's racist."



    The proper response is you don't interrupt the host, that's stupid. Pull his mic, and roll commercial. Then kindly tell him he has 30 seconds to get the fuck off my sound stage before I beat his ass for being a complete fucktard.

  • The Libertarian Guy||

    You'd say that to a New Black Panther?

    Damn, dude, that's balls. Just asking for a lawsuit, a boycott, and death threats... and that's before said fuck gets off the soundstage, they're that quick with the cell phones.

    Would be fun to watch, though. Then again, watching a folding-chair fight between a militant, chip-bearing anti-Jew black dude and the piece of shit Hannity, would be even more fun.

  • Elemenope||

    Would be fun to watch, though. Then again, watching a folding-chair fight between a militant, chip-bearing anti-Jew black dude and the piece of shit Hannity, would be even more fun.

    There is only one right place that can go.

    Cage match.

  • BakedPenguin||

    It would be win-win, like Geraldo fighting a skinhead. You're just hoping for a lot of contusions.

  • hmm||

    You'd say that to a New Black Panther?

    What's he going to do? The minute you tell him to leave and he doesn't he's trespassing? If they wanted to get violent I think Vinny Gambini said it best,

    "Oh, a counter-offer. That's what we lawyers - I'm a lawyer - we lawyers call that a counter-offer. This is a tough decision here. Get my ass kicked or collect $200. Let me think... I could use a good ass-kickin', I'll be very honest with you... nah, I think I'll just go with the two hundred...So, here are my options. Option A: I get my ass kicked or Option B: I kick your ass and collect the 200. I think I'm gonna go with Option B: Kickin' your ass and collecting $200."



    Who's scared of thugs, they bleed like everyone else. No sense in living scared.

    As far as Hannity goes, he would be thinking of ratings the whole time he was getting his ass kicked while in the fetal position.

  • jester||

    Expert texpert choking smoker,

    Don't you think the joker laughs at you?

    He does. Just in case you were wondering. He laughs heartily, I'll have you know.

  • jester||

    ...and now jester considers which species of penguin Pres. Obama would be.

    Emperor? No.

    King? No way.

    Chinstrap? Neither.

    Jackass? Looking better.

    Macaroni? That's it.

  • jester||

    Stuck a finger in his...

    and called it Macaroni.

  • Goodman Green||

    I don't really feel that Obama is a comic book villain, he's more in line with real villains from history.

    http://wp.me/pxm2a-2j

  • ||

    "I don't really feel that Obama is a comic book villain, he's more in line with real villains from history."

    I agree. But I do think that it is wonderful that more people are willing to ridicule the A$$hole in Chief. People who oppose tyranny need to learn and impliment the lessons that Obama himself has used to get where he is.

    For example, Alinsky's Rules for Radicals:
    http://www.geocities.com/WallStreet/8925/alinsky.htm

  • ||

    Butlers wear penguin suits. It would be racist b/c it would insinuate that Obama is a butler.

  • ||

    Re: Obama as the Penguin, I can't believe no one's linked to the infamous McPenguin video.

  • ||

    Hey, our last vice-president shot someone in the face. We're not lowering our standards that much here.

    And then got the guy who was shot to apologize for the incident. So, yeah, point.



    Not a very good point, though, sort of on the same lines as the hyperbole "I'd vote for the Joker over Obama." Bird hunting accidents and inappropriate hunting safety are unfortunately far too common. The idea that Cheney meant to shoot the guy in the face is exactly as ridiculous as saying that Obama wants old people to die (as opposed to wanting savings in Medicare that will probably mean that some old people will die a few months earlier rather than getting a very expensive operation that lengthens life by only a short time.)

    Anyway, the Dark Knight version of Harvey Dent/Two-Face is better for Obama posters anyway, obviously.

  • ||

    Anyway, the Dark Knight version of Harvey Dent/Two-Face is better for Obama posters anyway, obviously. - John Thacker



    Because BHO is a cross between Tommy Lee Jones and Billy Dee Williams?

    Kevin

  • ||

    It's not Hate mongering . . .
    It's EEEEvil-mongering!!!!!!!!!!

  • ||

    That pic of President Stupidly as a member of the National SOCIALIST Party is just precious!

  • ||

    Last summer, Vanuty Fair had a George Bush as Joker picture that was seriously malicious. Somehow that is forgotten.

  • ||

    And Al Franken is the joker. Damn straight.



    The Joker is an evil genius. I would never call Senator Franken that.

    Evil? The jury's still out. But genius? Never.

  • Riddler||

    I live about an hour south of Clermont. I am tempted to print up a few posters and take a ride north.

  • ||

    If glue is an issue, staple the damn things on.

    I would like to see how many yard sale notices etc. are posted up all over that town.

    Ditto offers for gutter cleaning, babysitting, missing cats, etc.

    A dozen pictures, and I would have a selective (discriminatory) law enforcement case. Not to mention the first amendment issue.

  • QY||

    Or how about a poster of Obama as the Riddler with the caption, "Riddle me this bat brains: What creature is half white, half black and yet pink from head to toe?"

  • Um||

    Too long, QY. "Socialism" is succinct and provocative. Propaganda at its purest.

  • ||

    Second, always, always always always always always always always have a lawyer present when being questioned by police. Admit nothing. Deny everything.

    Do not deny anything. Even that can be used against you. Do not say anything whatsoever other than "Am I free to go?" or "Am I under arrest?" or "I want to speak to my lawyer."

    Do not talk to law enforcement.

  • ||

    Don't trust law enforcement -- or the courts.

  • ||

    Most cities deal with signs improperly posted on public property with a citation that gives X days to remove the sign before any penalties are incurred. It's just not a wise use of taxpayer resources to prosecute such a non-crime.

  • ||

    I disagree that it's a non-crime. Maintaining a public nuisance has always been punishable. Is it a wise use of taxpayer resources to employ crews to clean up all the graffiti and illegal posters?

    I love those posters, but post them on your own property, vehicles, whatever.

  • ||

    As far as the radio talk hosts are concerned, my fav is Michael Savage. Hannity is an overbearing ass, Beck copied Savage's stance with even more histrionics, Boortz takes forever to get to a point. Rush is getting a little to high and mighty but his production values and parodies are the best out there. The lefties are all douchbags. I like Dennis Miller too.

  • ||

    The policeman said:

    "They have to be scraped off, all the glue has to be removed, and the property has to be washed off."

    Hmm, let's see if I have this right. So the crime was SPREADING GLUE ON A PUBLIC SURFACE?

    The police are rightly obsessed with such a glutinous outrage. Do you think the crime will stick?

  • hmm||

    ...and try to decide which one should be fed toes-first into a wood chipper.

    Just for your future reference, people would most likely clog the ever loving crap out of a medium to small chipper. You will want something like the top of the line Bandit 1990XP. The increase drum size will make sure the goop that is generated will be thinly distributed up and out the chute. So you don't clog up the chute with heavy soggy goopy person parts.

    *Not that I've ever chipped anyone.

  • ||

    I don't understand why they're calling Obama "the Joker." He's not very funny.

  • ||

    Re: Fist of Etiquette

    "you all" is improper use of ya'll.

  • hmm||

    Re: Fist of Etiquette

    "you all" is improper use of ya'll.



    Actually ya'll is still not correct since he is referring to more than one. The plural of ya'll is "all ya'll."

  • ||

    Let's say you have an activity - defacing private property by means of sticky posters that cost time and money to remove - that's clearly a violation of the law (if only a misdemeanor.) Let's say, further, that this activity is ONLY prosecuted within a given jurisdiction when the posters offend the political sensibilities of the community or the police.

    Is there a 1st Amendment or Equal Protection violation here?

  • Bruce Majors||

    I am flyering DC today and tomorrow (mainly Dupont Circle,downtown, and Georgetown) with my collection of flyers opposing our flop-eared, idiot FOTUS (fascist of the United States).

    Here are my posters:

    http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=4426&id=1721944137

  • ||

    Elemenope | August 14, 2009, 9:08pm | #

    His serious verbal essayage is very tolerable and on point.

    I can't take a guy seriously when his opinion swings from "America's health care system is a murderous disaster!" to "America's healthcare system is second-to-none and a precious national resource!" in the space of six months when it is ideologically convenient.

    Dude, you are getting your news from the daily show. Actually there is nothing inconsistent Between Beck's statements. Saying that our health care system could be a lot better and saying that it is the best in the world are not a contradiction, for the simple reason that the rest of the world's health car systems really suck bad - as will our's if Obama get's his way.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    "you all" is improper use of ya'll.

    Here in Pittsburgh it's actually "yinz", so I should get points for sparing you that.

  • d||

    ...the other *kills people for fun*.



    Sounds kind of like Clinton's bombing of a pharmaceuticals factory to take the heat off of him during his congressional impeachment hearings. And does anyone remember Serbia? So, by this logic, you are a moron if you voted for Clinton. Even if his 8-year reign was vastly better than GW's in terms of economic freedom and prosperity (shit, even on welfare reform). [Caveat: This may have had something to do with the glorious gridlock we had then, causing only sensible bills to make it all the way through the gauntlet of Congress and the President's desk.]

    All presidents (justly or unjustly) are responsible for deaths. Obama will cause more death than any other -- indirectly, through the inefficiencies that will result from his socialist agenda, as well as through the economy- and liberty-killing pro-union policies he seems to be beholden to -- if he is allowed to have his way.

  • Medic001||

    "They've gone much too far. This is what I would call an extreme," he said.

    Extreme? Right... maybe if it was a poster of him bent over a choir boy.

    So what if he sticks it to public property, thats job security for the clean up crew.

    Get over yourselves.

  • ||

    Killing people (babies, no less) for "convenience" isn't much different than "killing people for fun," yet the former is among the "values" that Obama advocates.

    I agree with the other poster. Voting for the real Joker would have been less damaging to the US.

    ================================
    Elemenope|8.14.09 @ 5:43PM|# said:

    If you are being at all serious, that makes you, with all due respect, sort of a moron. One guy has policy proposals you may not like while the other *kills people for fun*.

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