Damon W. Root | May 6, 2009
In a 2007 speech before Planned Parenthood, presidential candidate Barack Obama described his ideal Supreme Court justice as somebody who has "got the heart...the empathy to recognize what it's like to be a young teenage mom, the empathy to understand what it's like to be poor or African-American or gay or disabled or old." Legal scholar Richard Epstein thinks that that's a lousy way to pick a judge:
It might be smart politics for Obama to play to his natural constituencies, but intellectually there is, I think, no worse way to go about the selection process. Empathy matters in running business, charities and churches. But judges perform different functions. They interpret laws and resolve disputes. Rather than targeting his favorite groups, Obama should follow the most time-honored image of justice: the blind goddess, Iustitia, carrying the scales of justice....
I harbor no hope that Barack Obama will appoint someone who accepts my own judicial philosophy. But he is not likely to find the right pragmatic or principled nominee if he follows the standard he announced two years ago.
It's also worth remembering the judicial criteria that Obama laid out during the John Roberts hearings. Explaining why he voted against confirming Roberts to the Court, Obama listed a number of controversial issues where "what is in the judge's heart" should matter. He listed abortion and affirmative action, of course, but he also singled out the question of "whether the Commerce Clause empowers Congress to speak on those issues of broad national concern that may be only tangentially related to what is easily defined as interstate commerce."
Obama was referring to the post-New Deal trend whereby Congress relies on its constitutional power "To regulate Commerce...among the several states" in order to pass legislation touching on every aspect of American life. As the law professor Randy Barnett has chronicled, by adopting the widest possible interpretation of interstate commerce, "courts have granted Congress a near plenary power to do anything it wills and have thus nearly destroyed the system of limited enumerated powers."
Which is precisely what the Supreme Court did in Gonzales v. Raich, the 2005 decision that struck down California's medical marijuana law in favor of federal anti-drug laws "tangentially related" to interstate commerce. That was a disastrous and deeply flawed ruling, yet it perfectly matches Obama's constitutional vision. But shouldn't he also make some room in his big heart for those folks using medical marijuana to alleviate their pain and suffering? And where's Obama's empathy for Charlie Lynch, a decent man who genuinely helped the sick by operating a perfectly legal (under California law) medical marijuana dispensary? Lynch faces spending the rest of his life in prison because Obama and others want the courts to allow Congress to have the widest possible regulatory powers. There's a word for that, but it's not empathy.
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"Which is precisely what the Supreme Court did in Gonzales v.
Raich, the 2005 decision that struck down California's medical
marijuana law in favor of federal anti-drug laws "tangentially
related" to interstate commerce. That was a disastrous and deeply
flawed ruling, yet it perfectly matches Obama's constitutional
vision."
Who'da thunk it--Scalia and Obama have the same "constitutional
vision".
What a country, huh?
Empathy just means that you do whatever the hell you want to do regardless of the law. There something to empathize with in any court case. Both sides have mothers who love them for God's sake. Even in a comercial dispute, both sides have investors and creditors who have a right to get their money back. If it were just a question of empathy, we wouldn't need laws, we could just have Oprah judge every case.
Justice are supposed to be guided by rationality, not emotion.
Obama wants judges who will use emotive arguments to get to the
right result regardless of the law.
Quelle surprise, non? As we see more and more every day, this
administration consists of bloody-knuckled Chicago machine
politicians for whom the ends justify the means, any means.
The empathy street in Obamaland only runs one way. We're
supposed to empathize with the teenage mom, but not the unborn
baby; the "poor or African-American or gay or disabled or old," but
injustice is still injustice even if it affects the rich, or Asian,
or hetero, or fully abled, or the young.
My wife ran into an oncologist at a party where a doctor from a
free clinic was hectoring him for working in a swanky hospital
instead of serving a needy community. The oncologist's reply: "Do
you think cancer hurts less when you're rich?"
Here's another excellent take on Obama's "empathy" nonsense by
Thomas Sowell:
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YjNhMWFhZGIxNWFlNjNkMjQ2MmY5ZjA5ZWI1YWQ3NjU=
This guy does not exactly enhance the value of a Harvard Law
degree.
I disagree. Harvard has a good excuse for this guy - affirmative
action. They can just wink and say, "well, you know...."
Of course judges should have empathy for the human beings
affected by their decisions - including the unborn human beings.
That's not a disqualification. A disqualification would be to have
a limited vision allowing empathy only for one side, while leaving
the other side out of the picture entirely - for instance, writing
off some people (eg, unborn) as unpersons unworthy of
concern.
Even if a judge has empathy for someone, the judge may still have
to rule against that person if that's what the law requires. But
keeping in mind *everyone* who is affected by a decision, and
feeling there-but-for-the-grace-of-God-go-I, is necessary if the
judge isn't going to become an inflexible monster looking down with
contempt on all the little people.
Of course, the judge should not regard him/herself as a philosopher
king/queen with a special to dispense compassion to lesser folk,
like a benevolent despot. That's the kind of empathy some judges
seem to have in lieu of true empathy.
Doesn't EVERY discussion about a Supreme Court pick eventually
turn into an abortion thread?
and just to prove it,
Hey Mad Max, is a judge supposed to have equal empathy for a
unimplanted multi-celled blastocyst and walking, talking, conscious
(and taxpaying) human?
Citizen Nothing,
That may be hard to avoid, when the post involves "a 2007 speech
before Planned Parenthood [by] presidential candidate Barack
Obama."
But I'll see what I can do.
Gilbert Martin,
I'm afraid that Thomas Sowell has bought into the Holmes Myth.
Holmes' positivism certainly allowed for a perverted form of
empathy. Check out his Buck v. Bell opinion, and you will see that
it exudes empathy for forcible sterilization. The sterilization law
may or may not have been constitutional, but Holmes was not acting
like someone who was reluctantly upholding a law he detested - on
the contrary, he was filled with evangelical zeal for the law.
'is a judge supposed to have equal empathy for a unimplanted
multi-celled blastocyst and walking, talking, conscious (and
taxpaying) human?'
Since that blostocyst is expected to grow up and help pay off the
national debt, including the debt incurred by paying the salaries
of federal judges, then you tell me.
Justice Holmes' opinion for the U.S. Supreme Court in Buck v. Bell,
upholding a compulsory-sterilization law:
'We have seen more than once that the public welfare may call upon
the best citizens for their lives. It would be strange if it could
not call upon those who already sap the strength of the State for
these lesser sacrifices, often not felt to be such by those
concerned, in order to prevent our being swamped with incompetence.
It is better for all the world if, instead of waiting to execute
degenerate offspring for crime or to let them starve for their
imbecility, society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from
continuing their kind.'
Does that sound to you like a judge who is reluctantly upholding a
law he detests?
And
check this out:
'Recent scholarship has shown that Carrie Buck's sterilization was
based on a false "diagnosis" and her defense lawyer conspired with
the lawyer for the Virginia Colony to guarantee that the
sterilization law would be upheld in court. Carrie's illegitimate
child was not the result of promiscuity; she had been raped by a
relative of her foster parents. School records also prove that
Vivian was not "feebleminded." Her 1st grade report card showed
that Vivian was a solid "B" student, received an "A" in deportment,
and had been on the honor roll.'
If you want to find been three generations of imbeciles, you might
have to look at Justice Holmes' family.
The word to replace empathy I choose to use is
"douchebaggery."
Used in a sentence:
Obama displays a whole 'nuther kind of douchebaggery, yet all too
familiar to the asshattery, dumbassery, and fucktardery his
predecessor so proficiently displayed on a regular basis.
Perhaps if the right people were in charge of deciding who was an imbecile, this policy would work.
SCOTUS discussions should have *zero* to do with abortion any
more. It's time to get over it. Roe and Casey are, in the words of
John Roberts, settled law.
Pro-life "zealots" need to get off the cross and use the wood to
build a bridge and get over it.
How did "old" make that list? Is he suggesting that the elderly are an underrepresented minority on the Supreme Court?
TAO,
Plessy v. Ferguson was decided by eight votes to one. It was on the
books for hald a century before being overruled.
Swift v. Tyson was decided in 1842. It wasn't overruled until 96
years later, in Erie RR v. Tomkins.
Kentucky v. Denniston was decided in 1861. It was 126 years before
that case was overruled in Puerto Rico v. Branstad.
Roe v. Wade is a spring chicken. It was decided thirty-six years
ago.
We can wait.
Maybe unimplanted multi-celled blastocysts should be tried by a jury of their peers.
The Supreme Court is just a kind of appointive senate, a third house of the legislature, if you will, where every body pretends they are determining the constitutionality of laws while in reality they are endeavoring to defend or destroy or modify those laws. We all know this, we all accept it, but we all pretend we don't, the way we all pretend Santa Claus is real when kids are around.
Mad Max - then do us a favor and wait. What led to the overturn of Plessy was a paradigm shift in morality and philosophy. Right now, most people are pretty satisfied (or phlegmatic, depending on your POV), so invent a novel philosophical argument and advance it. So far, the only I've ever seen out of the pro-life camp is that they want to narrowly draw the line and to hell with the consequences it will have on women, birth control and the safety of society. Also, mucho hypocrisy from you folks.
Mitch,
I actually heard that the Supreme Court, is like a third branch of
the federal government itself, with powers EQUAL to the power of
the two branches!!!
I think too many people are looking for code words where none
exist..
Last I checked, he didn't want empathy to be the ONLY qualification
-- just that a judge has some empathy. Which I think is a great
trait to have if you are a judge.
You're decisions aren't academic. They affect people lives. Not
just the ones in court in front of you, but also other people out
there. And having some empathy is a good thing.
The oncologist's reply: "Do you think cancer hurts less when
you're rich?"
Well probably, but just a little bit. I'd rather be wealthy and
doomed than broke and doomed. But we're all doome; I read that
somewhere on this site.
"I'm afraid that Thomas Sowell has bought into the Holmes
Myth"
I doubt it.
Sowell wasn't writing a dissertation on whether Holmes actually
believed what the law required was good or bad in every case that
came before him.
He was using Holmes stated views of what he understood his job to
be to illustrate the proper role of judges. The point is that
"empathy" is not a proper basis for applying the law to cases. It
isn't about what Holmes really did or didn't have empathy for.
a doctor from a free clinic was hectoring him for working in
a swanky hospital instead of serving a needy community
I would describe the doctor from the free clinic as a selfish
prick. There's nothing more arrogant or selfish than presuming to
command other people to do what you want them to do.
-jcr
'so invent a novel philosophical argument'
Novel?
'then do us a favor and wait. What led to the overturn of Plessy
was a paradigm shift in morality and philosophy.'
The opponents of the *Plessy* decision didn't wait for a paradigm
shift; they kept hammering at the foundations of legal segregation
until they buckled. Of course, they may have relied too much on the
courts - a useful lesson for the prolife movement.
Of course, there's not such thing as passively waiting for judges
to change their minds. Judges can't change their minds except in a
concrete case, and in the abortion context, that means a challenge
to an anti-abortion law. And there won't be any anti-abortion laws
to challenge unless the pro-life movement persuades legislatures to
pass them.
I'd agree that empathy is unimportant except that all sorts of jurisprudence requires judges to consider reasonableness and sliding scales and other things that are inherently not given to being a blind, emotionless passageway through which The Law traverses in a straight line. Common sense and empathy isn't just about abortion and environmental regulations. It is about the Fourth Amendment as well. Might the Supreme Court justices have had a little different take on school nurses strip-searching 13 year old girls if they had the slightest empathy for what was going through the girl's mind, or if they could set aside slavishness to the drug war to see how unreasonable it was for school officials to act like that in America? Might we have a different perspective on the supposed professionalism of cops if the Supreme Court justices don't see anyone convicted of a crime (even in violation of their rights) as someone undeserving of Constitional protection?
And where's Obama's empathy for Charlie Lynch, a decent man
who genuinely helped the sick by operating a perfectly legal (under
California law) medical marijuana dispensary?
A minority of one is the smallest possible minority. Very fell
people have the conviction to take a stand for a single
individual.
There needs to be a cartoon of the commerce clause and the necessary and proper clause gravestones with the epitaph "just plain tuckered out."
None of the justices has a constitutional primer only accessible
to him. Each interprets the constitution in his own way, hopefully
with some regard to reason, precedent, and the ability to read
English. What I will not accept is that because Scalia and
conservatives say they're originalists that means they understand
the constitution better. It's just a political buzzword.
So all Obama's "empathy" philosophy means is that the actual
effects of a ruling on real people should play some role in judges'
decision making. If Scalia wants to decide cases based on what
he interprets the constitution to mean, fine, but that
doesn't mean he's doing his job better than someone who has a
different interpretation; say, that the role of the government
(courts included) is to look out for the general welfare, and not
just adhere to some ivory tower philosophical construct for its own
sake.
"Hey Mad Max, is a judge supposed to have equal empathy for a
unimplanted multi-celled blastocyst and walking, talking, conscious
(and taxpaying) human?"
Can't let this pass. So, empathy depends on ability to walk? Kill
all the disabled. The ability to talk? Kill all the mute. The fact
that one pays taxes? There goes about 40% of Americans. As for
consciousness? Well, since it is purely subjective, that's not
necessarily a good criterion. Plus, that would mean as soon as you
fall asleep, I can kill you.
And, if you want to get reductionist, aren't YOU just an
unimplanted multi-celled organism? Really, we are all just clumps
of cells, right? Just amalgamations of molecules.
And it seems all you are left with is consciousness as the
criterion of when life is legally protected. If so, it seems
awfully unscientific to say that simply passing through the birth
canal causes consciousness. I don't know of any study or any
plausible neurological theory that would explain that.
But you are right in one respect. The ONLY reason abortion is legal
is that there is a lack of empathy for humans we cannot see. A
woman kills her newborn hours after birth and throws him in the
trash. The mother gets several years in prison. A woman procures an
abortion. It gets paid for by the government and she is considered
a hero for standing up to the evil social conservatives. The only
difference? We don't empathize with what we cannot see.
I'm generally what you would call "pro-choice." As a general
rule I'd let people abort blastocysts. But Roe allows more than
that.
Let's be clear about what you are supporting when you support Roe.
Would you allow someone to kill a child by hammering a chisel into
their brainstem? If so, which children should be killed in that
fashion? Should we kill foundlings in that way? If not... why
not?
Think about it- or not. And maybe I will take a chisel to you.
"So far, the only I've ever seen out of the pro-life camp is
that they want to narrowly draw the line and to hell with the
consequences it will have on women, birth control and the safety of
society. (sic)"
So far, the only thing I've ever seen out of the pro-choice camp is
that they want to have no line and to hell with the consequences it
will have on women, children and the future of society.
Hey, two can play this broad-brush game! If that, honestly, is
all you've seen then you havent had your eyes open. As
dpsc points out, the pro-choice zealots are all over the "why do
you care about blastocysts" argument but totally mum about the
reality that unrestricted abortion on demand (as RvW is commonly
construed) has a long arm that reaches deep into even the third
trimester and strongly viable fetuses. They also tend to gloss over
the fact that overturning RvW does not immediately criminalize all
abortion; it simply takes the matter out of the court and leaves it
to the States, a place from which many feel, in accordance with the
Tenth Amendment, it should never have been moved.
Richard Posner, from "How Judges Think":
Another . . . major factor in judicial decisions in the open area
[that is, where the language of the law does not prescribe a clear
answer] is "good judgment," an elusive faculty best understood as a
compound of *empathy*, modesty, maturity, a sense of proportion,
balance, a recognition of human limitations, sanity, prudence, a
sense of reality and common sense. . . . It is another of the means
that people have for maneuvering in situations of uncertainy. If
law were logical, "good judgment" would not be an admired quality
in judges - as it is even by legalists.
I don't think a judge needs specific empathy as enumerated by
what was probably a brownie points move. Just basic empathy - to
put yourself in something like their position, to understand
motivation. Mostly, just understanding the motivation of others.
And of course, the ability to reason logically.
Abortion is such a highly-contentious but badly discussed topic.
Most people do not have enough information on the normal everyday
reality of the female reproduction system, and only seem to know
about the flow-charted set of steps to successful baby production.
The reality includes a lot of spontaneous abortion, malformed
fertilized eggs, failed implantation, stress-induced cessation,
reabsorption, fetus-caused health issues, mother-caused, genetics
issues, first-birth effects, previous-birth effects, mother's
condition's affects, etc. There is no line to draw that the law can
hold without exception, or exceptions that it can enumerate fully -
until birth.
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