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Should Charlie Lynch Spend the Rest of His Life in Jail, Or Even a Single Day, For Operating a Legal Medical Marijuana Dispensary?
Above: Watch "Raiding California," Reason.tv's Drew Carey Project video about the Lynch case. Go here for iPod and HD versions and more.
Charlie Lynch is a California resident who owned and operated a medical marijuana dispensary that was fully legal under a Golden State law.
In 2007, federal agents and San Luis Obispo sheriffs raided his home and dispensary and in 2008 he was found guilty in federal court of five counts of distributing drugs.
Because he was tried in a federal court, Lynch's defense team was not allowed to argue that its client was fully complying with state law.
On Thursday, April 23, 2009, Lynch is scheduled to be sentenced. He faces a mandatory minimum sentence of five years and, despite some positive statements from the Obama administration's Justice Department about respecting state laws regarding medical marijuana, Lynch's future is darker than midnight. Indeed, the simple letter of the law dictates he go to prison.
The polite term for Lynch's predicament is Kafkaesque. He is a guiltless man who genuinely helped the sick in his community and is being punished for caring. Now he faces at least five years—and potentially much more—in one of the most sickening and barbaric displays of how the drug war is carpet-bombing huge swaths of American life. Indeed, to call Lynch's plight Kafkaesque is to hide the brutality of America's longest-running and most-destructive war behind an aesthetically comforting phrase.
Charlie Lynch's life has been destroyed by policies and priorities so idiotic and corrosive that they create or exacerbate every negative outcome they purport to address. It is the logic of bombing the village in order to save it raised to an exponential degree and all Americans who believe in the smallest doses of freedom, compassion, rule of law, personal autonomy, and federalism should bear witness to the horror of what has already happened and will likely be made still worse on April 23.
Reason has been following Lynch's story since it began. Below is a chronology and selected bibliography of our print and video coverage of Lynch and the monsters who have prosecuted him like some warped Inspector Javert.
We will be reporting live here on April 23, as soon as the Lynch verdict is announced.
Charles Lynch Chronology
April 1, 2006 ... In accordance with state and local law, Charlie Lynch opens Central Coast Compassionate Caregivers medical marijuana dispensary in Morro Bay, California.
March 29, 2007 ... Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) agents and San Luis Obispo County Sheriff deputies raid Lynch's home and dispensary.
April 7, 2007 ... Lynch reopens his dispensary with the blessing of the City of Morro Bay.
April 14, 2007 ... The DEA threatens Lynch's landlord with forfeiture unless he evicts the dispensary.
July 17, 2007 ... Federal agents arrest Charlie Lynch, and charge him with violating federal drug laws. Lynch spends three nights in a federal detention center before being released on $400,000 bail. Lynch is confined to home detention and monitored by federal agents.
June 10, 2008 ... Reason.tv exposes a national audience to the Lynch saga with the documentary short Raiding California: Medical Marijuana and Minors.
July 28, 2008 ... Reason covers day one of U.S. vs. Charles C. Lynch: Entrapment? Lynch Trial Update
July 29, 2008 ... Silencing Owen: Lynch Trial Video Update
"Jesse Baldridge": Lynch Trial Update
July 30, 2008 ... Earthquake in the Courtroom: Lynch Trial Update
July 31, 2008 ... Charlie Takes the Stand: Lynch Trial Update
August 1, 2008 ... Lynch Checked with DEA Before Opening Dispensary: Lynch Trial Update
August 2, 2008 ... The Penultimate Day: Lynch Trial Update
August 4, 2008 ... Waiting for the Jury: Lynch Trial Video Update
Charlie's Fate in Jury's Hands: Lynch Trial Update
August 5, 2008 ... GUILTY: Lynch Trial Video Update (includes exclusive interview with jury foreperson)
Charlie Lynch Found Guilty in Gross Miscarriage of Justice
October 6, 2008 ... Free Charlie Lynch Rally: Video Update
November 2008 ... Medical marijuana makes conservatives forget federalism
March 23, 2009 ... Fate on Hold: Will Charlie Lynch Spend Decades in Jail? (Video Update)
March 25, 2009 ... Will the Justice Department's new medical marijuana policy save Charlie Lynch?
April 20, 2009 ... Obama's DOJ Won't Intervene in Charlie Lynch Case
|4.21.09 @ 4:46PM|#
It blows me away that the government can tell you what your
defense can and can't be. I have never seen that as one of the
enumerated powers of any branch of government. That you can't
probably goes to show what cowards prosecutors are and how
intellectually and morally vapid the law is. It the law is so
certain of its own credibility, what does it have to fear? Oh yeah,
that we might learn how totally fucking full of shit modern day
jurisprudence is.
Right now we are bitching because Iran and North Korea have
journalist. But, like Scott said, we have our own political
prisoners.
|4.21.09 @ 4:48PM|#
This is one of the most disgusting things i have ever read. This is a violation of the constitution and the will of the people both in that state and throughout the country. To have this done in the name of justice is a travesty.
IceTrey|4.21.09 @ 4:48PM|#
Meanwhile, Oaksterdam is alive and thriving. Talk about your selective prosecution.
SpongePaul|4.21.09 @ 4:49PM|#
HE WAS OPERATING A LEGAL BUISNESS!!! HE SHOULD SPEND NO TIME IN
JAIL> THE DEA SHOULD BE IN JAIL!!!!!!!!!
If Cali had any balls, the next time the fed tried to raid, the
Sheriffs should blockade the DEA, and then arrest the DEA if they
try to go into a building. that would send a ripple, after all, the
shops are operating lawfully under state law, the law the sheriffs
must uphold. Therfore the DEA is Breaking and eneting and commiting
armed robbery while kidnapping the owners.
kinnath|4.21.09 @ 4:51PM|#
Thread jack sort of:
Early news reports indicate the conservatives on SCOTUS are going
for strip searching 13 year olds girls cause drugs is bad . .
.
We is so fucked . . . .
Anonymous|4.21.09 @ 4:51PM|#
Central Coast Compassionate Caregivers
To be fair, I have heard that C4 is explosive.
SpongePaul|4.21.09 @ 5:07PM|#
Early news reports indicate the conservatives on SCOTUS are
going for strip searching 13 year olds girls cause drugs is bad . .
.
________________________________________
OLD PERVS!
|4.21.09 @ 5:13PM|#
It's my understanding that Judge Wu asked for a copy of the "new Policy" in writing. Judges don't normally like to let the prosecutors interpret the law for them and since it appears Judge Wu did not get his request filled, he may still hold off and demand his request be filled. If AG Holder is not willing to put the so-called "new policy" in writing then it means we are in fact living under a secret law. That would be Unconstitutional. Judge Wu followed the SCOTUS ruling to the letter, fair or not, when he banned discussion of medical use as irrelevant. Being that hardnosed of a Jurist might just serve in Charles favor, but no one should get their hopes up.
|4.21.09 @ 5:16PM|#
Like I kept on telling people, you vote democrat or republican, you get nonsense like this. Where is the humanity? What happened to compassion? And since when did a Sheriff decide that what is good for the county? I guess when you have a county seat at stake, nothing else matters but your job.
|4.21.09 @ 5:27PM|#
No. Charlie Lynch should not be in prison for running a
marijuana dispensary.
If Cali had any balls, the next time the fed tried to raid...
Have there been any raids since Holder declared them to be
off-limits?
And states rarely have balls. (Sorry, North Carolina.) It's all
about one or two individuals with (metaphorical) balls, like
Lynch.
Brett Stevens|4.21.09 @ 5:27PM|#
Why not legalize all drugs in California, and let the drug
maniacs go there?
We're spending too much on enforcement. Most people don't want
their kids near the stuff, because outside of a handful of
examples, the people who use drugs are screwups.
Orange Line Special|4.21.09 @ 5:31PM|#
I definitely feel some sympathy, but shouldn't someone who's opening a pot dispensing outfit check with a lawyer first vis-a-vis the issues outlined above actually coming to pass? Wasn't he openly defying the feds and they lawfully albeit perhaps malignly decided to make an example of him? Shouldn't you try to change the law rather than whining afterwards about the impacts of defying it?
SpongePaul|4.21.09 @ 5:36PM|#
I definitely feel some sympathy, but shouldn't someone who's
opening a pot dispensing outfit check with a lawyer first vis-a-vis
the issues outlined above actually coming to pass?
__________________________________________
He did. He consulted the sheriff and the mayor, and had support
from law enforcment and the city
bob Dohmeyer|4.21.09 @ 5:46PM|#
The Constitution was made a mockery of in Gonzales v. Raich which allowed this travesty (the feds trumping state law for even home grown personally consumed medicinal marijuana under the commerce clause, (seriously). Check the case out on wiki....Thomas' descent was a thing of beauty.
|4.21.09 @ 5:46PM|#
I'm sure one of the links has the nice picture of Lynch posing with the mayor and (I believe) members of the local C of C. He wasn't some stealth outfit.
|4.21.09 @ 5:50PM|#
Why not legalize all drugs in California, and let the drug
maniacs go there?
We're spending too much on enforcement. Most people don't want
their kids near the stuff, because outside of a handful of
examples, the people who use drugs are screwups.
---
4/10. You need some more caps and misspellings. Plus the first
sentence was too over the top. Good effort though.
John|4.21.09 @ 5:57PM|#
The law's the law. He choose to break it now he has to suffer the consequences.
|4.21.09 @ 6:11PM|#
Andrew: Good call. I would go one further and say that I would gladly allow my taxes to pay for every herion addict to get as much free dope as they want in luxurious state-run facilities if it meant we could drop the war on drugs now and forever. It would not only be cheaper, but it would be far less intrusive to the lives of ordinary citizens.
|4.21.09 @ 6:11PM|#
Have there been any raids since Holder declared them to be
off-limits?
Yes. The Holder statement that the DEA would not raid as long as
there was no violation of state law was shown up as a sham when the
DEA subsequently raided a dispensary based on allegations that
their sales taxes weren't in order.
No, I am not making that up.
|4.21.09 @ 6:13PM|#
The Constitution was made a mockery of in Gonzales v.
Raich Wickard v. Filburn which allowed this
travesty (the feds trumping state law for even home grown
personally consumed medicinal marijuana
wheat under the commerce clause,
(seriously).
It always goes back to FDR, doesn't it?
|4.21.09 @ 6:14PM|#
Most people don't want their kids near the stuff, because
outside of a handful of examples, the people who use drugs are
screwups.
That would include half of the adult population. More if you
correctly include alcohol.
|4.21.09 @ 6:16PM|#
Forgive me for I am about to sin.
I definitely feel some sympathy, but shouldn't someone who's opening a pot dispensing outfit check with a lawyer first vis-a-vis the issues outlined above actually coming to pass? Wasn't he openly defying the feds and they lawfully albeit perhaps malignly decided to make an example of him? Shouldn't you try to change the law rather than whining afterwards about the impacts of defying it?
Tell it to the suffragettes, underground railroad conductors and
Rosa Parks.
Libertarian|4.21.09 @ 6:36PM|#
The federal government is illegitimate. And if adults started acting as if they knew that, perhaps we'd see a bit more freedom in this country. That is, instead of acting like sheeple and applying for a permit in order to hold a "revolutionary" tea party. Ugh.
|4.21.09 @ 6:44PM|#
Scott's right. Lynch is a political prisoner, and Amnesty
International should be taking up his cause.
-jcr
|4.21.09 @ 6:47PM|#
The law's the law.
You can always gauge someone's stupidity and/or vapidity if they
trot out a fucking tautology as an argument. Let's hope the law is
the law else language as a means of communications would be fucking
useless.
By the way, he was obeying "the law."
|4.21.09 @ 6:51PM|#
It blows me away that the government can tell you what your
defense can and can't be.
I have a friend who got fucked over by the scientologists that way.
Google for Keith Henson for the details. Charlie Lynch is just one
of many defendants who've been prevented from presenting a
defense.
-jcr
Bud Hasherdashery|4.21.09 @ 7:05PM|#
This case is just another in a long and disturbing line of such
cases...didn't the governor and ALL law enforcement officers take
an oath to PROTECT THEIR CITIZENS. IF Medical Marijuana is LEGAL IN
CALIFORNIA, where is the Governor in using the State Police and the
California National Guard in forciably evicting the DEA...yes,
eviction. If they will not respect California's STATE RIGHTS, and
California's LAW, then the governor needs to REMOVE them from the
state.
I would go so far as to suggest that the governor also has a duty
to chain shut the Federal Courthouse until this State's Right issue
surrounding Medical Marijuana in California is settled...since I
already know that Arnold is a Ball Less twit, a man that signed the
law, but will not stand up for, I would STRONGLY encourage every
420 Friendly Fold in California to stage a peaceful sit in at said
oourthouse, make it impossible for the sentencing to go on. It's
called CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE FOLKS, and like it or not, if you want to
end the war on drugs, it is going to take more than sitting around
toking and discussing the issue....we need PROTESTS, just like back
during the days of the Vietnam War.
|4.21.09 @ 7:07PM|#
jcr and troy-
IMO, there can be no rule of law if the state gets to change the
rules, bend the constitution and immunize itself from liability for
actions that would be actionable against private actors.
That is why the rule of law is a joke.
|4.21.09 @ 7:12PM|#
Arnold has turned out to be one huge disappointment. What a fucking fraud and what a phony. Nobody would have ever heard of him if it was not for his relentless use of steroids. Of course, I have no problem with anybody juicing-but let us not forget reality. Arnold never would have won any contests and would not have appeared on the cover of any muscle mags without dianabol.
BakedPenguin|4.21.09 @ 7:30PM|#
J sub D - Lonewacko was actually 1) asking a real question, 2)
without being insulting, 3) didn't flog his blog and 4) without any
of his usual bullshit.
Oh, and BTW Lonewacko, he called either the DEA or the DOJ (I
forget which) prior to opening the dispensary. They told
him if he followed state laws, he would not be prosecuted.
|4.21.09 @ 8:05PM|#
This man is a saint! To all you self-righteous asses out there who are going to try to deny the value of medicinal marijuana I give you a hearty SCREW YOU! I have seen what it does to help people with MS. MY WIFE HAS MS! Don't sit and tell me all the usual BS about how it doesn't work and it is bad for you. Once you are wracked with spasms that knock you out of your wheelchair and are faced with the prospect of becoming a human doorstop then you can comment, until then I don't want to hear you worthless opinion! FU! Oh, and to all of you who would advise me to use legal drugs, I look forward to your $3500 a MONTH for my wife's medication that our insurance company won't cover because it is prescribed by a doctor, but not on their list for drugs used for MS. Charlie Lynch is a saint! FREE CHARLIE!
|4.21.09 @ 8:07PM|#
Wasn't he openly defying the feds and they lawfully albeit
perhaps malignly decided to make an example of him?
He was trying to help people who needed what he was selling. There
is no constitutional authority for the war on drugs; Charlie Lynch
is in compliance with the law, the DEA is not.
-jcr
Libertarian|4.21.09 @ 8:31PM|#
Hey, Haberdashery........ that's a bit like what I was thinking. One would think that in California, of all places, it would be relatively easy to get 5000, 10,000, or even 50,000 people to mill around the courthouse and demand justice.
jtuf|4.21.09 @ 8:33PM|#
According to www.icasualties.org, we lost 4,274 American lives in Iraq since 2003 and 1,133 American lives in Afghanistan since 2001. According to the last estimate I read in the Wall Street Journal, the War on Drugs kills 2,000 Americans each year. That's around 10,000 in the five years since we started in Iraq. We are doing more damage to ourselves than even the most bitter jihadist ever could.
jtuf|4.21.09 @ 8:44PM|#
By the fed's estimates about 90 million American's have tried marijuana and are not currently in prison for it. If each past/present marijuana user made an annual phone call to congress supporting legalization, then Capital Hill would get around 200,000 of these calls a day, 7 days a week indefinitely. I know I'm probably preaching to the choir, but darn it, why aren't congressional phones ringing off the hook?
|4.21.09 @ 9:43PM|#
Oh, come on. Political prisoner? I think the marijuana laws are silly too but the guy was clearly in knowing violation; it's hard to work up a whole lot of sympathy for him. It doesn't matter that what he was doing was legal under state law-- plenty of federal crimes lack state parallels (indeed there wouldn't be much point to federal criminal law of it was fully coextensive with state law). Yes, the law against dispensing marijuana, medical or otherwise, is stupid, but it's equally stupid to think you can ignore it with impunity.
ab390|4.21.09 @ 9:54PM|#
If you support legalizing marijuana for adults in California,
please support Assembly Bill 390 by visiting
yes390.org
|4.21.09 @ 11:00PM|#
SpongePaul sez If Cali had any balls, the next time the fed
tried to raid, the Sheriffs should blockade the DEA, and then
arrest the DEA if they try to go into a building
What? And risk their share of the next property seizure or block
grant?
jcr sez Charlie Lynch is in compliance with the law, the DEA is
not.
A-fucking-men!
James|4.21.09 @ 11:44PM|#
It is unconscionable that this man is facing such politically
sanctioned injustice at the hands of our government - or any other
government, for that matter.
It's a frakkin' weed, nature's gift to us all. Jimboland Jots feels
420 is Code for Happiness and Health! Check it out @
http://tinyurl.com/d46lvz
There is clearly national momentum building in several areas
indicating that the American people are ready to move beyond the
lies, misinformation, and propaganda that has so badly distorted
common folk knowledge about the use of marijuana, for either
responsible recreational or medicinal use.
|4.22.09 @ 2:51AM|#
The CA Constitution directs the constitutional officers to
uphold the State Constitution and laws, even against Federal law,
up to the point that any state-federal conflicts are resolved in
court. Gonzales v. Raich was, IIRC, an extremely important decision
because, prior to that, CA citizens could hector their elected
officials to resist the feds and fight for States' Rights, at least
in the matter of medical MJ. After Raich, unfortunately, the locals
had to fall in line with the Federales.
As hard as it may sound to do, either we have to get Congress to
repeal Prohibition II, or we have to get the Supremes to reverse
Wickard v. Filburn, and then Raich.
If we fire all the incumbents, we might have a shot at getting a
legislative solution. Otherwise, fat chance, imho.
John|4.22.09 @ 9:37AM|#
HE WAS OPERATING A LEGAL BUISNESS!!! HE SHOULD SPEND NO TIME
IN JAIL> THE DEA SHOULD BE IN JAIL!!!!!!!!!
Nope, in case you didn't know, merijuana is currently illegal and
involves severe penalties.
There is no constitutional authority for the war on drugs;
Charlie Lynch is in compliance with the law, the DEA is
not.
Nope, the CSA is constitutional because of the commerce clause. The
Feds can regulate interstate commerce, because it cannot be proven
that drugs have crossed state lines, in the CSA it is assumed that
they have.
To all you self-righteous asses out there who are going to try
to deny the value of medicinal marijuana I give you a hearty SCREW
YOU!
Sorry about your wife. Marijuana was declared by the CSA in 1971 to
have no currently accepted medical value and a high potential for
abuse. We don't approve drugs by referendum. Assuming that
marijuana is proven by the FDA to be safe and effective, it could
be available by prescription. In the meantime, no one has the right
to use drugs that are not approved by the FDA.
|4.22.09 @ 9:44AM|#
Wow! Is this the freedom hating, liberty loathing government I risked it all for? It's a good thing I'm dead or these modern day tyrants would be hosing me too.
|4.22.09 @ 10:27AM|#
In general I am against drugs of any kind that are not dispensed by a licensed doctor.I am also against legalising drugs from a moral standpoint but I believe the only reason drugs like these are not legal is because too many people are making money off of them. As long as Congress can steal they really dont care. They fail to pay their taxes,reward their family and friends with our tax dollars and hide all their illegal activities while controlling the rest of us and dictating. It is time to leaglise and control these drugs and that is from a common sense standpoint whether I like it or not. Keep the dollars at home legally.
|4.22.09 @ 11:23AM|#
@Elfego: I am also against legalising drugs from a moral
standpoint
And what moral standpoint might that be? Certainly not one that
says things like freedom and autonomy are virtues.
The War on Drugs is not merely ineffective and expensive. It is an
attack on liberty and man's natural right to live as he pleases, so
long as he doesn't hurt others.
|4.22.09 @ 11:46AM|#
John- What a freakin ego you have. To sit there and tell me that MM has no effect!? You, sir are a moron. I HAVE SEEN WHAT IT DOES. I don't quote some BS orginization, I HAVE SEEN THE DIFFERENCE. Tell that to my wife. Tell her how after she smokes her spasms don't go away. Tell her how after she smokes she no longer falls out of her wheelchair. Make the arguement that you don't care if you like, because quite honestly we don't care if you like it or support it or not. But to sit there and tell me what it does or doesn't do is reprehensible. Quote who you like, I will believe my own eyes. Pray you don't end up with an uncurable, completely undeserved (you are born with MS) disease and get to listen to morons like yourself tell you that MM does nothing. If you or anyone would like to contact me and discuss this further feel free to email me at jpocali@yahoo.com, but do me a favor... have some REAL experience or an open mind, not just some facts from some light reading you did whilst sitting on your couch.
|4.22.09 @ 11:50AM|#
BTW, here is a list from your FDA with drugs they deemed safe
and effective....
http://www.consumerjusticegroup.com/drugrecall/drugrecalls.html
jpocali|4.22.09 @ 12:20PM|#
Not to mention that placebos, which have NO medicinal
properties, are not only legal, but are routinely used by
doctors.
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1700079,00.html
If they have no known medicinal properties why are they
sanctioned?
Also, in 1971 the government said IUD's were a great way to prevent
pregnancy.... my how things have changed.
wayne|4.22.09 @ 1:24PM|#
March 29, 2007 ... Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) agents and San Luis Obispo County Sheriff deputies raid Lynch's home and dispensary.
Given that Lynch was not violating state law, why was the SLO
county sheriff involved in the raid?
|4.22.09 @ 1:38PM|#
You know, while I believe that drugs should be legal, I also
think that drug dealers, knowing they're breaking the law,
knowingly run a risk of getting caught/convicted/jailed and that's
got to be a price they're willing to pay.
But this wasn't the case with Lynch. The man obeyed the law. He was
doing nothing illegal under California state law. The mayor was at
the ribbon cutting ceremony for goodness sake.
I think that just as important as the raid on Lynch is the fact
that the Governor appears to have no real problem with what is
happening in his state, on his watch.
I honestly don't understand why there isn't more of an uproar.
|4.22.09 @ 1:38PM|#
@wayne: Given that Lynch was not violating state law, why
was the SLO county sheriff involved in the raid?
Because the SLO Sheriff is a reactionary tool bag who knew he could
circumvent his own department's laws by involving the feds. The
decisions in cases like this, which say that federal laws supersede
local ones, give the green light to rogue cops who have a grudge
against the local laws.
|4.22.09 @ 1:44PM|#
I would like to know how much it cost the government for one person being busted with medical marijuana. Starting from the investigation to the search warrant to the search and siezure to the arrest the stay in jail to the prosecuting attorneys time to public defenders or personal lawyers time. From the very beginning to the end of time served? Let the white house know how much it cost on one case of medical marijuana. I asure you it is in the millions.
|4.22.09 @ 7:01PM|#
The one thing i was genuienly hopeful about in an Obama administration was that a smidgen of sanity would come into drug law.
|4.22.09 @ 7:15PM|#
this abuse of power is sicking. The goverment needs to fallow local law or our system is a failed one.
|4.22.09 @ 7:35PM|#
Did they prove that he was moving stuff across the state border? Otherwise I don't see what they have on him. Ridiculous either way. Feds need to pull their heads out.
|4.22.09 @ 7:40PM|#
To be honest I don't even think ANY Drug should be illegal, but ignoring that, we are looking at a man being sent to prison (till he dies) because he gave medicine to a needing patient. Did the drug work? YES. was the patient happy? YES. Should he go to jail for helping someone? NO! For Christ's sake, this is the perfect example of governments ABUSING human rights. ANY adult has the RIGHT to put ANYTHING in there body, as long as it does net lead to someone one else's harm. END OF.
|4.22.09 @ 7:40PM|#
This is beyond an abuse of governmental powers. This is more
disturbing than words can describe.
A man who helps his community is jailed, yet my mother's doctor
won't administer the necessary testing and monitoring for her
diabetes.
Where is justice when the saviors of the sick are prosecuted and
the worst of the medical practitioners can't be held liable for
their real crimes?
No Justice! No Peace!
|4.22.09 @ 7:49PM|#
While I don't care for the video, and I don't like the emotional manipulation with the opening sob story, I am outraged at the possible sentencing over medical-marijuana.
|4.22.09 @ 7:55PM|#
Let the man sell pot in peace! It was legal & it was helping people, what a huge crimminal this Lynch guy must be!
|4.22.09 @ 7:57PM|#
USA has demonized marijuana for far too long.
The Lynch case is an example of the absurd extremes this paranoia
meme has caused in our culture. It's time to take back reason and
rationality on this matter.
|4.22.09 @ 7:59PM|#
Just another example of our oppressive federal government doing
it's best to show the American people "who's boss".
This is why I vote Libertarian.
Brian Menzies|4.22.09 @ 8:00PM|#
Oh wow, the question only remains how can we help stop this
atrocity.
What is the deal with this war on drugs. If it's hurting more
people than it's helping surely it's an unworkable system.
|4.22.09 @ 8:05PM|#
This is the 21st Century. We have gotten off to a horrendously
quick start. Yet, we are still forever chasing people for legally
providing a service.
Marijuana is still a Class 1 Narcotic which modern science has
rendered mute. It could be said that it may be a mildly narcotic.
But to the extent that nicotine and tobacco are highly addictive
and has caused recorded deaths in the millions. Marijuana has not
caused one death since science started recording narcotic
potency.
Marijuana distributors go to prison while Tobacco Executives get
penalized with taxes. But hey, as long as their product has MADE IN
AMERICA stamped on it... They really couldn't give a damn.
|4.22.09 @ 8:09PM|#
I can't believe that things like this can happen in the United States. I hope this can be overturned and some degree of common sense shown.
|4.22.09 @ 8:18PM|#
I am not American... but I think it would be disgracefull if Charlie Lynch serves a single day in prison. What he has been put through so far is utterly appaling and he should be given a public apology dfrom the DEA and the Justice Department of the United States.
|4.22.09 @ 8:47PM|#
What a disgusting turn of events. So much for his precious
'rights'.
Ya'know, some time ago I had the briefest case of insanity by
wanting to visit the USA. I got better.
|4.22.09 @ 8:54PM|#
We need to put the DEA agents behind bars they are the real criminals they have killed many more people than marijuana. Charlie Lynch is a hero he should be treated as one. dose the majority of the population really agree with this course of action? this is an outrage!
|4.22.09 @ 8:59PM|#
I AM NOT SORRY TO SAY THIS. BUT I HOPE TERRORISTS BLOW UP ALL
FEDERAL AND STATE BUILDINGS IN THE USA.
THE USA IS A BUCKET OF SHIT AND DESERVES TO NOT EXIST ON THE MAP OF
THE WORLD WHEN IT COMMITS CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY.
I HOPE IRAN AND N. KOREA DEVELOP NUCLEAR WEAPONS!!!!!
|4.22.09 @ 9:03PM|#
It is far better to let ten guilty men go free than to convict one innocent man. To convict the innocent is to spit in the eyes of justice.
|4.22.09 @ 9:04PM|#
A sad day for America indeed. To think that such a thing can
happen is a disgrace, and people act like we are so much better
than everyone else.
I really hope Obama does a little better, but the way things are
going, it would seem that Obama is just your average democrat,
nothing special really.
Oh, also, fuck Ron Paul. He can lick ass crack.
Jim|4.22.09 @ 9:08PM|#
injustice does not begin to describe this. Yet another example of the millions of the government abusing their power
ElectricityNow|4.22.09 @ 9:12PM|#
This is just ridiculous, this War on Drugs is unbelievable stupid.
Vodan|4.22.09 @ 9:19PM|#
yes it*s a shame but quite common for your country.
FYI: The total number of marijuana arrests far exceeds the total
number of arrests for all violent crimes combined, including
murder, manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery and aggravated
assault.
(source: http://skeptically.org/recdrugs/id8.html )
|4.22.09 @ 9:27PM|#
A monumental misuse of government power. A horrible draconian law. I could puke! Free Charlie!!!
Mark|4.22.09 @ 9:42PM|#
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING! IS THIS STILL THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA????????
|4.22.09 @ 10:02PM|#
This makes me want to cry. We are all disgusted and disappointed with Mr. Obama, who has turned his back on this very important subject and for not pardoning Dr. Lynch. Charles Lynch you are on all of our mind and in our hearts. You are not a criminal, but an American Hero.
|4.22.09 @ 10:30PM|#
Here is a website that you can go to to actually help this
man.
http://www.friendsofccl.com/
I emailed Mr. Lynch this afternoon to give my support to him and he
actually returned it within the hour. Remember this man is being
sentenced tomorrow!
|4.22.09 @ 10:44PM|#
This is disgusting. There needs to be some drastic, and I mean DRASTIC, retaliation against this kind of abuse.
danny tanner|4.22.09 @ 10:47PM|#
marijuana is not a drug, i used to suck dick for coke
have you ever had to suck dick for some marijuana
|4.22.09 @ 10:48PM|#
I used to think California was a forward looking state. Wrong. Come join the rest of the world California. Grow up!
|4.22.09 @ 10:52PM|#
It is depressing to know that someone can be punished for life when the person broke no laws. The American people have taken a lot of crap from the government, but hopefully enough people come together and stop this BS from happening and stop most of it, if not all BS that the government may have stirring up for the future.
|4.22.09 @ 11:17PM|#
It's things like this that make me ashamed to call myself an American. This is sickening.
periodic table|4.22.09 @ 11:24PM|#
I find it ironic that the government spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to shut this man down and send him to trial for a legitimate business when the government has used illegal drug sales to finance covert operations in the past.
|4.22.09 @ 11:27PM|#
The FDA know what they have done is wrong. But they don't want
to admit it and hence pull tricks in the courtroom. Telling someone
what their defense cannot be.
Disgusting and in a first world.
I mean who was the moron in the FDA that even approved this. And
the sheriffs office that participated should be ashamed of
themselves themselves.
|4.22.09 @ 11:29PM|#
This is a very obvious example of the tyranny that has become
the hallmark of former president bush's style of running the
government. it is easy to see why so many countries hold us in such
low regard.
i hope president obama can help fix this mess and i wish to see a
full pardon from the president himself on this matter. to punish a
person for reaching out to help those suffering from diseases such
as cancer and aids is nothing to be punished, let alone with this
severity. we need to get our priorities strait and commend people
such as charles lynch for thier humanitarian efforts.
|4.22.09 @ 11:45PM|#
It comes down to this (mostly). The federal government isn't makinng money off medical marijuana. I'm sick of the politicians in this country. They should all be killed and replaced with compassionate human beings.
Peter S.|4.22.09 @ 11:45PM|#
Please, America. Do not fail me, do not preform such an injustice on my dollar.
|4.23.09 @ 12:21AM|#
Can they actually WITHHOLD EVIDENCE!?!?!?!?
This is just sickening to think of the resources wasted on
apprehending someone OBEYING THE LAW!!!
Mr Smith|4.23.09 @ 12:26AM|#
how strange to first alow one to set up a shop, let them go
through ALL the trouble of establishing a working distribution of
pain relief... and then assault it with the law when it is decided,
without warning, to outlaw it.
how very very political... if you live in a country where the laws
don't work in the cervice of the people, then the law needs to be
changed. how about it? send an inocent doctor to jail for 85 years?
or get some laws that actually work?
|4.23.09 @ 12:29AM|#
Who will watch the watchmen? A chilling example of corruption of the system to be sure. Sombody deserves to go to prison, but not Lynch. Whoever decided to abuse the power they were lent by the American people should be behind bars. We need to send a message to law enforcement and politicians that their authority is what we say it is... not what they want it to be.
|4.23.09 @ 1:09AM|#
Please lets move into the next timeline with respect and undersatanding for our earth and its plants. cannabis saved my life. nobody would say that about METH!
WineisyourFriend|4.23.09 @ 1:48AM|#
Why is there still no room for common sense in court? Why must
we continue to suffer the BS of misapplied technicalities and
political bias when the fate of an honest, well-meaning citizen is
on the line?
MJ is far less dangerous or addictive than codeine or morphine, yet
nobody goes to prison for selling those drugs to people with
prescriptions for them. How embarrassing.
|4.23.09 @ 2:30AM|#
This Country has been on the down hill slide for years.I don't think Marijuana should have been made against the law in the first place.When a man can go to prison for selling marijauna longer than a Murderer I have lost faith in our judicial system.They are no longer credible.Charlie is a hero not a criminal. The great crime is what the government is doing to him.May they that are responsible rot in Hell!All those booze guzzlin cops that make their living off of busting people that smoke Marijauna should be ass raped with a cactus.Marijuana is natural, thus it is not a drug.Americans need to stand up and fight for their rights! This is a shameful time for America when we have so many other REAL problems. Come on get real Marijuana ain't no Goddamn drug.The shit that you get prescribed has more side effects and is more detrimental to your health but it is perfectly legal? Oh the drug companies lobby the politicians and put money in their pockets Hmmmmmmmmmm I guess that makes it okay. What a pitiful petty unjust Country we have become. Free Lynch! He dosen't deserve to spend one minute behind bars.Period!
|4.23.09 @ 2:42AM|#
It is a shame that a travesty of justice such as this can happen. I was raised to think that the law should punish people according to the severity of the crime. What has he done to merit this treatment? Oh yeah, he helped ease the pain of some people and did it legally. We really need to make some major changes to our system!
|4.23.09 @ 2:52AM|#
As a medical practitioner, I am appalled at this miscarriage of justice by the DEA. I urge California to take charge of it's state's rights and free this man immediately, and take his case to the supreme court. The constitution makes no mention of marijuana, and this is left to the state to decide. I'm not a lawyer and my reading of the founders' words are fairly clear to me. Law Enforcement Against Prohibition must also get involved, and we should urge our new president, who by the way HAS a brain, to pardon this man from federal charges.
|4.23.09 @ 3:26AM|#
Its crap like this that makes me HATE the world more and more. This is just ludicrous. He should be free, given an apology, and reimbursed for everything he lost. To quote a great man "the problem with america is that there are to many lawyers" -Frank Zappa, and this just proves it.
BudhagRizzo|4.23.09 @ 5:26AM|#
America needs to finally put this issue to rest. There are so many stories concerning marijuana and the Federal Government's religious hatred for it. The Feds abuse their power concerning this issue, waste billions of taxpayer dollars on it, and send peaceful people to jail because of it. Whether you've used marijuana or not, you got to be sick of the stupidity of the Federal Government's actions concerning it. Legalize it already and save us some money and headache!
US Citizen Living in Europe|4.23.09 @ 6:08AM|#
Doesn't the government have bigger fish to fry then this wast of time and money? Obama should pardon him and get this out of the courts (and look into all other similar cases) Make room for the real criminals so they must serve their entire sentence rather then get early release.
Mike|4.23.09 @ 8:03AM|#
Charles Lynch should be freed immediately and have his business
reinstated and the DEA agents that arrested him should be4 on trial
for kidnapping and assault.
Perhaps its time for dispensaries such as this to hire (or get
voluntary) armed guards to prevent this kind of assault by the
government.
Forget the Republican usurped, Koch-funded Tea Party nonsense, take
some real action.
|4.23.09 @ 9:06AM|#
We in India look up to USA to aim at high senses and good decorum. But cases like these make me thank so much that I have been borned in a place where atleast the corruption dosen't favour wrong people to such a degree. I am sick of thinking that USA is governed by the most ignorant people who misuse their power and harm those who want to help.
|4.23.09 @ 9:14AM|#
The arrogance of many of our American leaders is something to be abhorred. They need to chuck their ridiculous fantasy based beliefs and leave people alone. They are a major hindrance to the progression of the intelligent, peaceful human spirit. There are far too many asses in high places. Let's take them down a rung or two or better yet, remove them from places of power, NOW! The DEA should be dissolved immediately. My fear is that it (the DEA) has become such a huge business that it will take an act of congress to put a stop to this terrorism from within. Write your representatives and tell them NO MORE TERROR FROM THE DEA! STOP THEM NOW!
|4.23.09 @ 10:34AM|#
WTF has said it all!
Might I add that government has no right to dictate medical
treatment, especially where extreme conditions, which include
intense chronic pain, are concerned.
It's time Marijuana stops being a political football. The people
against it can just keep on getting drunk and smoke their lungs out
legally. No laws against that!
|4.23.09 @ 10:59AM|#
Only in America... I think that only know are we starting to see the real damage bush infllicted on USA.
|4.23.09 @ 11:45AM|#
You know I have so much outrage over this travesty of justice that I feel like spitting nails. The Feds, Wall Street, CIA, pharmaceutical companies, you name it must not want marijuana legalized, because then it would be taxed and have to be accounted for where they are probably making lots of money and deals keeping it illegal. Think of it when did you ever hear of a man smoking a joint going home and beating his wife, or a car accident involving just marijuana, or fights starting when people have smoked. Could it be the government would lose a lot of money with fines? Now that there is indisputable proof that marijuana has a medical purpose and they still will not legalize it if for only that purpose. Why is it that all substances God made are illegal and the one man made booze is not? Maybe they just don't want us finding out the truth.
|4.23.09 @ 12:33PM|#
When the state of California issued Mr. Lynch permits to
manufacture medical marijuana, that act assumes legal protection.
What is Cal. doing to help this man.
--
Michael
Rick|4.23.09 @ 12:59PM|#
What can be done to stop this? My intuition is a change in the zeitgeist toward most people wanting cannabis legal. Isn't that what effected civil rights legislation, and more importantly, a general shift in consciousness that made people act in a different way? Presently, what kind of legal avenues and pressures of the public could allow for a pardon of Dr. Lynch? What about a Presidential pardon?
Will|4.23.09 @ 1:03PM|#
California should send state police to Charlies home and stop
the Feds from coming to get him. This whole thing is bogus. If the
Feds have stated that they aren't going to prosecute anyone unless
they violate federal AND state law, then why is there even going to
be a sentencing? How can you sentence someone for something that
has just been declared NOT a crime by the people who arrested him
in the first place?
Good luck Dr Lynch.
|4.23.09 @ 1:53PM|#
This is horrible. This a misuse of authority and now an innocent man is going to suffer for it just for trying to help people.
travman67|4.23.09 @ 3:40PM|#
Heartbreaking. I apologize to Manas. Some are fond of saying "Not all are like that." The contemptable seem drawn to authority- though not all with authority are abusive. Hopefully it is a symptom from a bygone affliction and the youth will save us. If there is hell, then that sherriff has a spot- see Dante for the specific location.
|4.23.09 @ 4:27PM|#
Why is it so difficult for you people to understand that
something can be a federal crime even if it is not a state crime?
This is not a difficult concept, folks. If you break a federal law,
you should expect to be prosecuted in federal court by the federal
authorities. The fact that there may have been no criminal
prohibition on your conduct under state law is entirely
irrelevant.
Have any of you heard of the Supremacy Clause in Article VI of the
Constitution? A quick refresher:
"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall
be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall
be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the
supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be
bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State
to the contrary notwithstanding."
In other words, the fact that California declares something legal
means jack sh!t to the federal government, and anyone who thinks he
can get away with blatantly violating federal law because
California says it's okay is an idiot.
jpocali|4.23.09 @ 4:41PM|#
JRD- That is true, but court records show the Mr. Lynch called the DEA four times to verify that what he was about to do was, in fact, legal and was informed by the DEA's office that it would be up to the county and city he lived in. This is misleading at best and entrapment at worst.
|4.23.09 @ 5:27PM|#
This is such a shameful thing to have to experience as a citizen of this country. I really had high hopes we'd be somewhere better by now. Charlie Lynch is possibly facing more years in prison than a person found guilty for murder in the first? I don't know it just seems a little scary and a lot wrong.
VocalCitizen|4.23.09 @ 5:42PM|#
So... it's better to murder someone than to give marijuana to
sick and dying people....
... uh ...
o.k.
|4.23.09 @ 7:03PM|#
So, I was watching The Wire yesterday (S3 - Amsterdam), at the same time thinking about Charlie Lynch and the ridiculous drug laws. And it suddenly hit me that without these stupid nanny laws there would be no Soprano's, no Wire, the police force would easily be cut in half, the various agencies committed to the war on drugs, prostitution, gambling, etc., would pretty much go away. Clearly this isn't rocket science and this is an obvious fact, but it just became, I don't know, so much realer to me. The Lynch thing makes, at least to me, tangible the ridiculousness of these laws and how easily all this crime could go away if the government would just stop trying to "protect us from ourselves." It makes me absolutely crazy. I just, I don't get it. The man did everything he was supposed to do and is being subjected to a witch hunt. It's Kafka at its best/worst.
|4.23.09 @ 7:49PM|#
This is utterly ridiculous; California should step in and oppose
the federal government in this case. It's a horrible case of Jus
Malus coming about from differing legislation. The feds obviously
have a hard time dealing with the real criminals who are covert and
quite happy to kill, so they target someone who's out in the open
and not a murderer and who happens to be doing things legitimately.
Yeah, the feds are saving your kids from ... oh, wait, Charlie
Lynch never sold drugs to just anyone.
This is a great example of the feds abuse of power; folks, kick
those bastards in the nuts and put them in their place because if
you don't, we're becoming a police state run by high school
flunkees. The federal government needs to get its act together,
listen to what the medical community has been saying for over 40
years, and set Charlie free. I don't know if a pardon would be
enough; the guy never committed a crime (except in the eyes of some
rabid morons).
The feds really have a bug up their ass about marijuana; meanwhile
hospitals can stock cocaine. morphine, and hordes of other potent
drugs. It's simply a matter of regulation, and Charlie was
following the state regulations.
|4.23.09 @ 10:25PM|#
What a disgusting abuse of Federal power. To do this in spite of State laws making it legal really shows the contempt for the people that some of the worst actors in the Federal government have.
|4.23.09 @ 10:28PM|#
And just what the heck is Obama's State Department doing about it? Do these jackasses give a damn about gross injustice?! How do we end up with such heartless callous scum running our institutions?
|4.24.09 @ 1:59AM|#
For shame! This is not the America that I want. It's reached the point I'm embarrassed to tell people I visit in foreign countries where I am from. It is my fervent hope that logic and reason will prevail in this case. My thoughts and hope go out to Mr. Lynch and his family. How in the world do we as citizens rollback the corrupt and bloated Federal Government?
|4.24.09 @ 11:46AM|#
It's incredible, how shameful is this? He was operating LEGALLY, what's wrong with these people? FREE this man!
|4.24.09 @ 7:33PM|#
This is a disgrace.
I see no reason why medicinal marajuana shouldn't be added to the
list of world's leading painkilling drugs.
Everyone knows antidepressants don't work and they're dispensed
like candy.
Medicine and the world's governments needs to wake up and smell the
coffee.
|4.25.09 @ 7:25AM|#
It seems the government does not have important things to focus
on.
This is beyond stupidity.
I am pretty sure that the Pharmaceutical companies are behind
this.
Miked|4.26.09 @ 9:11AM|#
Was Lynch distributing beyond the state border as well as
minors? I just don't know what holds more weight: State Law or
Federal Law? If a parent says their child can have a cheese
sandwich in their house and sends the child to school with a cheese
sandwich, where such meals are prohibited, who has jurisdiction
over the child's lunch: the fascist school or the kids'
parents?
The State claims Lynch was operating legally, so Feds: Fuck
Off.
The Fed seems to enjoy creating criminals at the taxpayers' expense
for privately owned prisons for profit. Good luck.
|4.26.09 @ 10:51AM|#
If Lynch goes to prison for this That is Some Bullsh*t!! The government wants to pump out all these drugs to minors for depression & being hyper & run this country like a herd of sheep. Why don't they wise up, pot has been proven over & over to be a positive more than a negative for thousands of years. What a happy country this would be if the government could get their priorities straight!!
|4.26.09 @ 10:54AM|#
I am amazed that your great nation can make such an embarrassing blunder. What's worse is that noone is stepping up to the plate to rectify it.
Jeremy|4.27.09 @ 1:53AM|#
R.J Reynolds and other tobacco companies + Anheiser Bush and others are the ones funding this I think. Why don't they just make it legal, tax it, and let's all get stoned?
|4.27.09 @ 2:25AM|#
i think it is a bunch of crap. i think it should be legal as long as it is mediclly necessary.and i think the sheriff is nothing but a trouble maker! what if it was his child in pain and everything and that was the only thing to help the child not suffer.and both state and federal laws should be the same without conflict. it just seems anymore you can't do this or that or you get in trouble.
|4.27.09 @ 2:49AM|#
What a shame...Legally done...We voted on it...We are the people...This is BS...We need to do something...God Bless You Owen....Anything you can do plz don't hesitate to ask. Does our vote count for anything. Eric Holder said the DEA has not right to continue this assault...
Brent Sigman (Prince of Pot in|4.27.09 @ 6:16PM|#
Well as an average Joe that is not a dumb ass plumber but a Army Veteran I think this man should be released along with the other hundreds of thousands serving sentences for something that grows. Its no differnt than the the hops and barley in all you drunks drinks... You can drink for fun but we can't take medicine thats real fucking american! Glad I could serve ya..
|4.27.09 @ 7:01PM|#
When Federal law and State law differ, the stricter of the two
laws is the enforceable one. In this particular case, Federal law
prohibits growing, consumption, possession and distribution of of
marijuana. Lynch's situation is unfortunate. He was doing something
that is legal in the state he was operating in, but it is still
illegal on the Federal level. Federal law enforcement agencies such
as the DEA are still responsible for enforcing the Federal law
throughout the entire country. This means that the DEA can (and
obviously has shown they will) arrest people that are distributing
drugs even if the person is acting legally in the state they are
distributing in.
Lynch's defense team was not able to argue that Lynch was operating
within California law because the California law was not the one
that Lynch is accused of breaking. He is accused of breaking
Federal laws regarding the distribution of illegal drugs.
I feel sorry for Lynch. He was trying to help people and he got
screwed by a system that allows states to enact laws that are
useless.
|4.29.09 @ 4:08AM|#
He should not spend a day in jail. And should in fact be entitled to some form of reparations to cover his legal fees and the trouble the feds have caused him. His business was completely legal. If anyone is being persecuted no one is free.
|4.29.09 @ 4:34AM|#
What!??!!?
What!??!
This is almost the absolute lowest quality of criminal
"justice".
Walabio|5.1.09 @ 3:14AM|#
¡This is outrageous! If the jury would have invoked jurynullification, this would not have happened. Judges should have to inform all juries that they have the right to invoke jurynullification.
Cho|5.2.09 @ 1:36AM|#
This is in every way wrong!
Charles does not deserve to be treated in this way.
|5.3.09 @ 9:23PM|#
Charlie Lynch deserves praise for his good work!
Let us all hope that he will be set free.
|5.4.09 @ 2:03PM|#
This is horrible sick and wrong. This man has no place in jail. He only wanted to help people. This is corrupt. I feel sick just to be a citizen. I hope there is reason. This man put in jail would not just be a injustice it would be a atrocity.
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