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McDonald's Iced Tea Party
Do you know what today is? It's tax
day! It's McDonald's franchise
birthday! So if you have time, go to the nearest McDonald's and
grab your favorite item from the Dollar Menu. In fact, go crazy and
get a shake, too!
If after the cheeseburger, you're still feeling sore about the whole tax thing, head to the nearest tea party protest, all of which are displayed in the fun Google map below:
For the closest McDonald's location, go here.
Check out what Reason saw at a March tea party protest in Washington D.C. Cast a vigilant eye on "rightwing extremists" here. All things "Tea Party" here. In 2008, Contributing Editor Greg Beato explained how McDonald's keeps the masses thin. Senior Editor Jacob Sullum wrote about Morgan Spurlock's Super Size Me, here and here. Contributor Soso Whaley took the Spurlock challenge in 2004.
High Five: small dead animals
Anonymous|4.15.09 @ 12:04PM|#
I'm all for low taxes and such, but the blatant astroturfery and cognitive dissonance going on with these "tea parties" and their cheerleaders makes me nauseous. I went to one of these in Texas and found nothing but a lot of Lipstick Libertarians who were happy to defend Bush's economic record (after all, there was a war on!) and didn't find a Barr/Baldwin/Paul supporter (or principled non-voter) in the lot. Most seemed to equate a Sarah Palin run in 2012 with the Second Coming of Christ.
Naga Sadow|4.15.09 @ 12:08PM|#
SugarFree,
That looks revolting! Shame on you for even posting knowledge of
this catastrophe!
|4.15.09 @ 12:10PM|#
The problem is, if we sit and do nothing, Obama and Congress will take that as consent or even support of what they're doing. A vocal and high-profile public opposition may scare them enough to limit their next round of abuses. Even if that opposition isn't unified on what the best course of action is. At this point, just agreeing on "stop" is enough.
|4.15.09 @ 12:11PM|#
I think the difference in scale between these protests and the
anti-war protests is absolutely astonishing.
And the inverted coverage provided to the two types of protests
perfectly illuminates the fact that the legacy media is driven by a
mission to promote a very limited narrative.
Naga Sadow|4.15.09 @ 12:13PM|#
Pro Lib,
Until you get labeled as a "militia" member. Then the feds are
gonna keep bugging you to saw off a shotgun for them to your
ruin.
|4.15.09 @ 12:20PM|#
I think the difference in scale between these protests and
the anti-war protests is absolutely astonishing.
Just to clarify, you're talking about the unprecedentedly huge
protests all over the world to protest Bush and his war, which went
practically unnoticed on mainstream news media? And the ridiculous
hype of the teabagging parties that we've been experiencing for
weeks?
|4.15.09 @ 12:20PM|#
Naga,
That whole business is so bad that I'm surprised even our jaded,
biased media isn't disturbed by it. Of course, if it's okay this
time, I suppose it's okay when the next Republican government
decides to track leftists in the same manner.
|4.15.09 @ 12:25PM|#
Not an anti-war libertarian in the bunch? Well, if you're
anywhere near City Hall Park in Manhattan tonight between 7 and
9... you'll find at least one.
I'm torn between two signs: "Free Love, Free Markets" and "What
would Ragnar do?"
I'm a little worried the Ragnar one will land me on a watch list of
some sort, though.
|4.15.09 @ 12:26PM|#
That looks revolting! Shame on you for even posting
knowledge of this catastrophe!
Your nausea is my pleasure. Mu-ha-ha.
|4.15.09 @ 12:28PM|#
Yeah, I'm screwed. I have a Culpeper flag on the front of my
car, and my cognomen comes from the Wallace clan crest, which
includes an arm holding a sword. And I comment on a known radical
blog and blog for a "a widely-read [radical] culture site."
Of course, the fact that I'm not in a militia or even inclined that
way is irrelevant, because my thinking remains unmutual.
|4.15.09 @ 12:32PM|#
Of course, the fact that I'm not in a militia or even
inclined that way is irrelevant, because my thinking remains
unmutual.
Right. Who cares about the Non-aggression principle? You hate the
government! You need to be stopped!
JP|4.15.09 @ 12:33PM|#
I celebrated Easter by having a Quarter Pounder Extra Value
Meal(tm) at the McDonald's inside our local Wal-Mart.
As for the Tea Bag protest, I'm hoping to get out of the office
early enough today to pop in on the local one.
|4.15.09 @ 12:40PM|#
I'm a known proponent of limited government, too. What could be
more un-American?
Forgive me, Obama, for I have sinned.
|4.15.09 @ 12:43PM|#
Forgive me, Obama, for I have sinned.
Alright, 12 Our Fathers. And no more of this "I have a right to
myself" baloney. You're forgiven. For now...
|4.15.09 @ 12:52PM|#
According to Paul Begala April 15 is Patriot's Day. If you protest you're insulting veterans and promoting cancer.
Naga Sadow|4.15.09 @ 12:56PM|#
SugarFree,
You gott get loose my friend. Expand your horizons. Don't knock it
till you try it.
|4.15.09 @ 1:01PM|#
"known radical blog"
Awww, Jeez!
C'mon, Terry; you know I was just funnin' don't you.
Don't you?
*looks nervously out window*
|4.15.09 @ 1:09PM|#
I might consider buzzing up to the Statehouse, in Helena, to
have my picture taken by the fuzz this afternoon, but it has been
snowing for the past thirty-six hours; if not for the fact that the
temp was hovering around 40 most of yesterday, there'd be a couple
of feet of snow on the ground, instead of a measly six or eight
inches.
I just don't feel like leaving the house.
Until the bar opens, anyway.
|4.15.09 @ 1:10PM|#
"I think the difference in scale between these protests and the
anti-war protests is absolutely astonishing."
Well if you are going to protest taxes, you better protest the wars
that are adding to them. So I'd expect more people at war protests
than tax protests. The war protests will also have leftists,
whereas the tax protests will just have all the non-leftists that
were also at the war protests.
PETE|4.15.09 @ 1:11PM|#
Prolib
"suppose it's okay when the next Republican government decides to
track leftists in the same manner."
1) That report was commissioned and completed under the last admin.
That it was released now, you might have an argument about that if
not for
2) 2001 Report: Left-Wing Extremism, The Current Threat.
http://www.osti.gov/bridge/purl.cover.jsp;jsessionid=F19A08F3BAA926E390E3F69D23A9DEC8?purl=/780410-SHVVvq/native/
The GOPers on this site are too damn easy.
JP|4.15.09 @ 1:11PM|#
If I weren't already planning to attend my local Tea Party, I definitely would after reading that load of self-righteous please-Sir-can-I-have-another load of crap from Begala.
|4.15.09 @ 1:14PM|#
Just to clarify, you're talking about the unprecedentedly
huge protests all over the world to protest Bush and his war, which
went practically unnoticed on mainstream news media? And the
ridiculous hype of the teabagging parties that we've been
experiencing for weeks?
I don't give a shit about the rest of the world.
Here in the U.S., seems like every war protest got national
coverage even if only 12 people showed up.
As I understand it, liberals are planning to infiltrate the tea
parties and hold up racist signs and/or stupid signs (misspellings,
stupid wordings, etc.), so the news media will seek them out and
make that the face of the tea party participants.
|4.15.09 @ 1:16PM|#
I love the heads I win tails you lose coverage of these things. On the one hand, they should be ignored because they are disorganized. When you respond that well they are disorganized because they are put on by pissed off amateurs instead of professional political assholes like ANSWER and that they are really widespread and well attened, the response is that they are some well organized evil plot by Republicans and Rush Limbaugh. Republicans only wish these things were partisan.
|4.15.09 @ 1:18PM|#
"As I understand it, liberals are planning to infiltrate the tea
parties and hold up racist signs and/or stupid signs (misspellings,
stupid wordings, etc.), so the news media will seek them out and
make that the face of the tea party participants."
If that is true, that is some real fascist shit. That is exactly
what the brownshirts used to do. No kidding.
PETE|4.15.09 @ 1:22PM|#
I like how Reason linked to the Washington Times' editorial
about the DHS report as opposed to the report.
Here's what the report says:
"Rightwing extremism in the United States can be broadly divided
into those groups, movements, and adherents that are primarily
hate-oriented (based on hatred of particular religious, racial or
ethnic groups) [i.e. the Klan, Neo Nazis], and those that are
mainly antigovernment, rejecting federal authority in favor of
state or local authority, or rejecting government authority
entirely [i.e. militias]. It may include groups and individuals
that are dedicated to a single issue, such as opposition to
abortion or immigration. [i.e. people who blow up abortion clinics.
The immigration one you've got me on. Maybe minutemen? Getting
loose here, admittedly]"
Nowhere in the the report does it say anything about ALL
anti-government people being terrorists.
Stop being butt-hurt.
eric mack|4.15.09 @ 1:26PM|#
The funniest, smartest response so far, especially to the
schlock-chocked 'Tea Party Anthem:'
http://tr.im/iTjn
|4.15.09 @ 1:26PM|#
Stop trying to highjack the thread Pete. You fucking troll. We had that thread yesterday. If you want to know the truth go read it. No one cares enough about your opinion to educate your dumb ass.
PETE|4.15.09 @ 1:27PM|#
"As I understand it, liberals are planning to infiltrate the tea
parties and hold up racist signs and/or stupid signs (misspellings,
stupid wordings, etc.), so the news media will seek them out and
make that the face of the tea party participants."
That is fucking hilarious. You are hilarious, man. This is based on
what, exactly? A crazy Malkin post based on an anonymous message
board post prompted by a paranoid chain email?
I'm surprised you didn't mention the Soros/ACORN axis as
well.
Or maybe you took this seriously:
http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/19772.html
|4.15.09 @ 1:29PM|#
PETE,
So, some report that got no press coverage and apparently had
little to do with policy compares with the current situation? And
I'm a GOP shill? I think one of us is shilling, and I know it ain't
me.
I'm trying to remember where I said the last administration or
Congress were the good guys. Oh, wait--I never did.
|4.15.09 @ 1:31PM|#
What I find fascinating are people who come here to discredit we
"right wingers" (ha!) while simultaneously carrying the left-wing
flag. How biased we are! How fascistic for being libertarians, and
ipso facto on the right! What religious fanatics we must be!
Down with deregulation!
|4.15.09 @ 1:33PM|#
Hey Pete,
Dumbass that report you link to came out in April of 2001. Bush
didn't take office until January 2001. It was done by a consultant
at Oak Ridge National Laboratory. It is very unlikly that it was
concieved and written entirely between January and April of 2001.
The chances are overwelming that the report was commissioned and
started before January 2001, which means it was commissioned by the
Clinton Administration.
PETE|4.15.09 @ 1:34PM|#
I'm not a troll. YOU'RE a troll. WAhhhhh!!!! Waahhhh!!! :(
:(
For such a genius non-troll truth-knower, your retorts and comments
are surprisingly substance free. Your intellect must be as
tremendous as Rush Limbaugh's!
Also, to Pro Lib, I say again:
2001 Report: Left-Wing Extremism, The Current Threat.
http://www.osti.gov/bridge/purl.cover.jsp;jsessionid=F19A08F3BAA926E390E3F69D23A9DEC8?purl=/780410-SHVVvq/native/
Respond to the substance, please.
|4.15.09 @ 1:37PM|#
Read the date on the report dumbass. Chances are very high that that report was started under the Clinton Administration and finished under Bush.
|4.15.09 @ 1:38PM|#
PETE,
Okay, since the report was commissioned during the Clinton
administration and wasn't connected to the equivalent of DHS at the
time, how on earth is it (1) relevant and (2) indicative of any
right-wing equivalent to the current stupidity? Let's recall that
there was no apparent activity directed at leftists during the Bush
years, though I imagine they did take some sort of action with
environmental extremists (i.e., those who used force) and maybe
some of the anti-war protesters. Perhaps they would've done more of
that without 9/11, but the fact remains that this is far more
troubling.
|4.15.09 @ 1:40PM|#
In less than two hours from now here in Sacramento, Neil
Cavuto's lips will make contact with Michelle Malkin's hairy,
shriveled sack.
Wolverines!
|4.15.09 @ 1:44PM|#
Just to clarify, you're talking about the unprecedentedly
huge protests all over the world to protest Bush and his war, which
went practically unnoticed on mainstream news media? And the
ridiculous hype of the teabagging parties that we've been
experiencing for weeks?
Tony, I don't give a fuck about what a bunch of foreigners
think.
I do know that, in this country, it was the anti-war protests that
were ridiculously overhyped, and that be comparison there has been
a virtual news blackout on the Tea Parties.
So I'd expect more people at war protests than tax
protests.
Yet, oddly, the opposite is true.
Now, I'd expect more press coverage of war protests than tax
protests, because anti-Bushwar protests fit the Standard Narrative,
but anti-Obamaspending protests do not.
Although I will admit coverage has been ramping up a little, but is
still orders of magnitude below where it would be if the media was
covering protests based on their scope, and not their agenda.
|4.15.09 @ 1:44PM|#
Also, since the paper was commissioned by Energy, it's likely
that the concern was with so-called environmental terrorism. Or
perhaps with the Chinese espionage concerns that characterized the
late 90s.
Interesting that Kos tried to make hay out of this report. Of
course, when you parrot facts from a partisan blog, you tend to
ignore things like relevance. Anything to defend your
guy's abuse of power. Maybe it would be smarter to oppose
all abuses of power, whether they come from Democrats,
Republicans, or, God forbid, libertarians.
max hats|4.15.09 @ 1:46PM|#
Read the date on the report dumbass. Chances are very high that that report was started under the Clinton Administration and finished under Bush.
Uh, the Homeland Security Department did not exist under
Clinton.
|4.15.09 @ 1:47PM|#
Hey PETE, maybe you should attack someone other than ProL, because you're not going to get much "right wing shill" traction with him. Still, you are entertaining, so keep going.
|4.15.09 @ 1:50PM|#
"Uh, the Homeland Security Department did not exist under
Clinton."
It wasn't done by DHS. It was done by the Department of Energy.
Read the damned report before posting. Are you people retarded?
|4.15.09 @ 1:50PM|#
I will admit that I bicycled to my nearest McD's for breakfast.
[2 biscuits w/egg, cheese & bacon for $3.]
Mmmmmmmmmmm.....
Bacon!
Kevin
max hats|4.15.09 @ 1:52PM|#
Are we talking about the right wing group report or the left wing group report? I'm losing track over which one you are being outraged about. The right wing report was most definitely DHS.
|4.15.09 @ 1:54PM|#
I'll put this little tidbit on this thread, too- since the other
one is pretty dead...
----
The Presidential Suit has declared war on Congress!
"It will take time to undo the damage of years of carve-outs
and loopholes," Obama said. "But I want every American to know that
we will rewrite the tax code so that it puts your interests over
any special interest."
This should be fun.
|4.15.09 @ 1:54PM|#
Episiarch,
At last, I can reveal to the world my true identity: I am Dick
Cheney!
max hats,
He was responding to Pete's red herring report commission by DoE in
early 2001. It dealt with left-wing threats.
|4.15.09 @ 1:56PM|#
Max Hats,
The right wing report was done last week by DHS. The left wing one
was done in April of 2001 by DOE. Since both of them came out near
the start of the respective administrations, it is entirely
possible that they were commissioned under the previous
administration, although the DHS report is a routine report that
DHS I&A puts out and could very well have been done in less
than a month while the DOE report is not routine and was likely
commissioned under Clinton. We don't know for sure on either
one.
JP|4.15.09 @ 1:59PM|#
The Presidential Suit has declared war on
Congress!
To borrow from Apollo Creed's trainer in Rocky, "He
doesn't think it's a damn fight! He thinks it's a damn show!"
|4.15.09 @ 2:00PM|#
At last, I can reveal to the world my true identity: I am
Dick Cheney!
I knew you were a Dick!
|4.15.09 @ 2:01PM|#
It's not difficult for me to believe DHS, under the George W Peron administration, would see any group advocating limits on government power as radical extremists who need to be kept under careful scrutiny.
|4.15.09 @ 2:06PM|#
Is there a pithy psychiatric term for people who can only
understand the world in zero-sum black and white, lacking any
notion of nuance in belief systems? (And try not to be boring and
say "libertarianism, hur hur.")
If not, I would like to suggest: Manichaeiosis.
|4.15.09 @ 2:09PM|#
Episiarch,
Don't force me to shoot you by accident on our next hunting trip.
Cheneys are known to do that.
P Brooks,
Indeed. Nothing unifies Democrats and Republicans like their shared
hatred for libertarians.
JP|4.15.09 @ 2:10PM|#
Is there a pithy psychiatric term for people who can only
understand the world in zero-sum black and white, lacking any
notion of nuance in belief systems?
Engineers? ;-)
|4.15.09 @ 2:13PM|#
Is there a pithy psychiatric term for people who can only
understand the world in zero-sum black and white, lacking any
notion of nuance in belief systems?
"Partisans"
You can thank me later.
|4.15.09 @ 2:15PM|#
Okay, if only DHS reports are allowed:
How about Jan 2009: http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/leftwing.pdf
"Leftwing Extremists Likely to Increase Use of Cyber Attacks over
the Coming Decade."
OH DEAR! I take personal offense at the DHS issuing reports about
the "left wing"! Such an abuse of power to try and keeps tabs on
domestic groups! [monocle falls off face, shatters on Italian
marble floor]
But okay, for serious, I will go back and read that other thread to
try and get an idea as to why exactly some of you think that
creating such a report was "troubling."
You aren't saying DHS shouldn't be keeping tabs on extremists of
the militia/White Nationalist variety, right? They should just be
more careful in their wording and focused in their targets?
|4.15.09 @ 2:17PM|#
Collectively, the Nasitrap. Too bad partisan isn't spelled with a "z", because that would've been perfect.
Forty-Two|4.15.09 @ 2:20PM|#
PETE's use of sarcasm is devastating.
Abandon hope, all ye who would cross him
|4.15.09 @ 2:22PM|#
PETE is a thermoplastic polymer resin of the polyester family and is used in synthetic fibers; beverage, food and other liquid containers; thermoforming applications; and engineering resins often in combination with glass fiber.
ed|4.15.09 @ 2:22PM|#
What amuses me is that, at this very moment, when most of us appear to be drinking alcoholic beverages in our underwear, MSNBC interns are busily compiling data for Keith Olbermann's and Rachel Maddow's primetime yukfests, proving conclusively that the FOX News-inspired "tea-bag parties" have proved to be a colossal flop. Rachel just might cream her jeans tonight. Stay tuned.
PETE|4.15.09 @ 2:23PM|#
Hey! I don't hate libertarians! I agree with them on lots of
things!
Hopefully, some day soon, we can all meet on one of the "Drug War
is Shitty" or "Criminal Justice System is Shitty" threads and all
sing campfire songs and lament about the wasteful, corrupt engines
behind these respective miscarriages!
Libertarians right now are sort of like White Sox fans before they
won it all in 2005. Try to say you were "a White Sox fan" before
August 05 or "against government waste and excessive taxation"
before Jan 09 and you're met with lots of "Ohhhh SURE you were"s,
which must be frustrating. I feel for you. Honest.
|4.15.09 @ 2:28PM|#
PETE,
Just to be fair, let me just say that I don't doubt that either
party tends to see the other party's extremists as more threatening
than their own. However, the latest report was disturbing,
especially given its emphasis on political position, as opposed to
association, say, with the Shining Path. A lot of the previous
reports were focused on associations with international or foreign
organizations (or with other countries).
I think this sort of thing is sad, regardless of which party is
doing it. It makes a mockery of the freedoms of speech and
association. If people are out training to take Congress hostage,
then they're engaging in a conspiracy and can be arrested, tried,
and convicted. But people who support limited government and don't
have any love for what our government is today? Not enough to draw
even a watchful eye. Not in a free society, anyway.
Taken with the blatant power grabs of this administration (like the
games with the Census and trying to foist policies and programs on
us by taking advantage of the "crisis"), I find this a little extra
disturbing. Make no mistake--all of this wouldn't have been
possible without the hard work of the Bush administration.
JP|4.15.09 @ 2:49PM|#
PETE should be one of the first to be teabagged when the
Revolution comes.
I'm confused. I thought being teabagged was good. I though being to
one who's forced to teabag (the "teabagger," if you will)
was bad. ???
|4.15.09 @ 2:54PM|#
JP, are you a chick or something? Dudes doing the gay stuff to other dudes aren't gay, but receiving the gay action is gay. Jesus, this is Infantile Guy Stuff 101. If you're gay, then you have an excuse...sort of.
Prehensile|4.15.09 @ 2:56PM|#
"It wasn't done by DHS. It was done by the Department of Energy.
Read the damned report before posting. Are you people
retarded?"
Well she is a bigot, so, yeah.
JP|4.15.09 @ 2:59PM|#
JP, are you a chick or something? Dudes doing the gay stuff
to other dudes aren't gay, but receiving the gay action is gay.
Jesus, this is Infantile Guy Stuff 101. If you're gay, then you
have an excuse...sort of.
I'm not a chick or gay. But I am rather old. And
apparently I don't know what people mean by "teabagging heh heh." I
looked it up on Google but must've been misled.
|4.15.09 @ 3:02PM|#
Hey! I don't hate libertarians! I agree with them on lots of
things!
That would be a neat trick, since you obviously don't know what one
is.
|4.15.09 @ 3:04PM|#
JP,
Just don't get it mixed up with wafing and you'll do fine.
Wafe
To place ones testicle or testicles inside the anus or vagina of his sexual partner. Similar terms include "bathing the dog" "the vagina fly trap". Variations include the "lego lock"; where one places one testicle in the rectum while simultaneously placing the other free testicle in the vagina. Or the "bubble bath" where the both testicles are placed into the vagina or ass and queefed or farted on.
|4.15.09 @ 3:09PM|#
Also, for the Always Sunny connection, gorilla mask
(definition 4).
Reading the other definitions, I'm clearly not hanging out with
enough of the right type of low-life scumbags. WTF?
|4.15.09 @ 3:15PM|#
JW, if you think that's bad, try donkey punch (note the Aqua Teen connection), strawberry shortcake, or spacedock.
Jeff P|4.15.09 @ 3:24PM|#
Just want to state that Jennifer and I do not require kinky
preparation for coitus. Our foreplay is exciting. She plucks my
hairs from that spot I can't reach and I swab her back with witch
hazel.
Our sex tape will be leaked shortly.
Alligator Fuckhouse |4.15.09 @ 3:40PM|#
"JW, if you think that's bad, try donkey punch (note the Aqua
Teen connection), strawberry shortcake, or spacedock."
Child's play.
|4.15.09 @ 4:05PM|#
I just got back from the Boston teaparty on my long lunch break.
There were over 1000 people there. To make gross generalizations,
it seemed there were about 25% Rothbardians, 35% Infowarriors
(although many were mixed)...and 40% other. Lots of "End the Fed
signs" and "Congress is a toxic asset". Cody Willard showed up with
a Fox News camera. We interrupted one of his interviews with a 10
person "End the Fed" chants. Nice to meet some likeminded people
who work int he same neighborhood.
Almost everyone was aware that Bush sux about as bad as
Obama.
The funniest moment for me was when 6 people were discussing
different Rothbard books when a guy came up to hand out "flat tax"
pamphlets. The sales pitch did not go well.
|4.15.09 @ 4:21PM|#
Tony, I don't give a fuck about what a bunch of foreigners
think.
Yeah that attitude has done wonders for our country.
I do know that, in this country, it was the anti-war protests
that were ridiculously overhyped, and that be comparison there has
been a virtual news blackout on the Tea Parties.
Here
is a list of the protests of the Iraq War.
All I can see on TV today is teabagging. Teabagging everywhere. FOX
news has been promoting teabagging for weeks on end. And in the end
it's just a bunch of fringe people who don't even seem to know what
exactly they're protesting. The scale of the Iraq War protests was
in many cases unprecedented. And I watched the news. They were not
covered adequately by any stretch of the imagination.
|4.15.09 @ 4:27PM|#
"And in the end it's just a bunch of fringe people who don't
even seem to know what exactly they're protesting."
dude, we are protesting the government. You would have to have the
attention span of a gnat to miss that.
|4.15.09 @ 4:30PM|#
dude, we are protesting the government. You would have to
have the attention span of a gnat to miss that.
*headsmack*
|4.15.09 @ 4:30PM|#
I might have met joe boyle at the teaparty. Two guys were carrying Obama Biden posters. When I asked if they were in favor of wiretapping, they said no and they weren't either just "that national security was a valid reason to not allow it to go to court". When I asked about their view on bombing pakistanis they denied it happened and started accusing me of being in favor of the war last year...
|4.15.09 @ 4:33PM|#
You people do know that a sizable majority in this country
approves of Obama and the actions he's taking?
You guys act as if Joe is the only Obama supporter in the
world.
|4.15.09 @ 4:39PM|#
You people do know that a sizable majority in this country
approves of Obama and the actions he's taking?
I blame the NEA.
T|4.15.09 @ 4:44PM|#
You guys act as if Joe is the only Obama supporter in the
world.
Well, now there's you, so we're up to 2 that come around here.
|4.15.09 @ 4:46PM|#
You people do know that a sizable majority in this country
approves of Obama and the actions he's taking?
Bush had 90% approval ratings after 9/11.
A sizable majority approved of the iraq war.
|4.15.09 @ 5:43PM|#
Bush had 90% approval ratings after 9/11.
A sizable majority approved of the iraq war.
What's your point? That majorities are always wrong?
|4.15.09 @ 5:44PM|#
Most people who support Obama are just average public school
"product".
About 20% of the US population are functionally illiterate; for
some subsets(obama supporters) of our population, that rises to
40%.
Source
Nearly 50% of the Americans surveyed cannot read well enough to
find a single piece of information in a short publication, nor can
they make low level inferences based on what they read.
Now Joe is definitely in the top 50% and he displayed a good solid
understanding of many of the bad things Republicans did the last 8
years.
Tony and Joe are two of the only people I have communicated with
who can understand that Bush was bad yet show an amazing ability to
not see anything wrong with what Obama does.
highnumber|4.15.09 @ 6:23PM|#
Most people who support Obama are just average public school
"product".
I'd bet that the majority of _______'s supporters are, too.
Frankly, I don't care if I'm standing with a sea of C students who
can't read a TV guide, if they're right.
SIV|4.15.09 @ 6:52PM|#
GOVERNOR SAYS TEXAS CAN LEAVE THE UNION IF IT WANTS
I'm already whistling Dixie !
|4.15.09 @ 7:21PM|#
Most people who support Obama are just average public school
"product".
And Republican supporters are all fuckin Isaac Newtons.
Tony and Joe are two of the only people I have communicated
with who can understand that Bush was bad yet show an amazing
ability to not see anything wrong with what Obama does.
Perhaps you missed the discussion where I explained my opposition
to some Obama policies and linked to mainstream liberal sites that
universally oppose some of them.
But just because we aren't crying "tyranny! socialism!" at his
economic policies doesn't make us hypocrites. We're liberals. We
believe in his general approach to the economy (with lots of
caveats on the specifics).
|4.15.09 @ 8:37PM|#
Tony, when the anti-war crowd was a small minority of the
country (much smaller than the anti-tax crowd is today, btw), how
did they react to "The majority of the country disagrees with you,
and supports Pres. Bush, so STFU! You're all idiots!"?
Isn't a bit hypocritical for you now to be saying the EXACT SAME
THING?
You protest things you disagree with ESPECIALLY when you're a
minority. When your a majority, you don't NEED to protest.
Only popular ideas can be dangerous. Hence the need to not
critically accept whatever the majorty support.
KyleG|4.15.09 @ 9:35PM|#
I stopped by the Denver tea party for about an hour or so. The "Teabag Pelosi" sign was pretty awesome.
JB|4.16.09 @ 1:07AM|#
For PETE and all the other retarded liberals, there were
actually retarded liberals that showed up to the DC protest in
tuxes and complained that 'we billionaires don't want any more
taxes'.
I shouted them down with chants of 'limousine liberals' and kept
asking them when Teddy Kennedy and his limo were going to pick them
up.
Bunch of retarded twats. They can write a check to the US Treasury
for whatever they want to pay in taxes. But that isn't the issue.
They want to stick a gun to my head and take my property from me by
force. Well, fuck them and they better pray every day when they
wake up that isn't the day I decide to take that gun from them,
pistol whip them with it, then proceed to torture them before
killing them slowly.
Anyone who thinks they can point a gun at me and get away with it
deserves to be tortured to death.
Mike in PA|4.16.09 @ 12:05PM|#
Just to get back on track here...
Does it piss off anyone else to see Republicans cozying up to these
protests?
Reminds me of the "nobles" in that Braveheart movie pretending like
they were supporting the rebellion.
|4.16.09 @ 1:32PM|#
We're liberals.* We believe in his general approach to the economy (with lots of caveats on the specifics). - Tony
* Italics are mine.
No, Tony, you aren't. At best you are a "social democrat", in
European parlance. Liberal is a term that has become all
but meaningless, as the Progressives, New Dealers, Great Society
types and the identity-politics crowd have leeched the root of the
word - liberty - from it.
We libertarians had to adopt a different term for ourselves, since,
if we rightly called ourselves liberals, we always had to qualify
that we were the "classical" kind. Liberal =/ statist, and folks
who back policies like the ones Obama is pushing are in favor of
greater state power. Mind you, I'd put both Bushes and even Reagan
down as statists, and it isn't impossible that, on balance, Barack
will be less statist than W. We shall see. But don't try to march
under the flag of liberalism. That won't fly.
Kevin
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