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Reason.tv at Slamdance: The Porno-Terror Nexus
Porn funds terror?
That's the justification the Department of Homeland Security used to invoke the Patriot Act and target the hardcore bondage site Insex.com.
The documentary GRAPHIC SEXUAL HORROR, which premiered at the Slamdance Film Festival in Park City, Utah, explains how the government shut down the site in the name of fighting terror.
Reason.tv's Ted Balaker spoke with the film's directors, as well as a former insex.com model.
|1.30.09 @ 4:37PM|#
Porn funds terror?
That's the justification the Department of Homeland Security used
to invoke the Patriot Act and target the hardcore bondage site
Insex.com.
That's what they'd like you to think. But really they were just
acting on behalf of their puppet masters over at Kink.com
OO===D|1.30.09 @ 4:47PM|#
"f this is what it takes, whatever, good riddance."
But you told me you loved me, Juanita.
Elemenope|1.30.09 @ 4:49PM|#
But you told me you loved me, Juanita.
She only loves you when you're on top.
mark|1.30.09 @ 4:51PM|#
Hahaha
I knew the people who first started and modelled at insex and
unless they changed dramatically, they were about making money to
make a living and get ahead in life. Of course this was back in 97
or 98.
Of course there are porn sites and places that are money laundering
operations, however that's because drugs are illegal, prostitution
is illegal and other things that enable organized crime to make a
killing, (literal and figuratively) if you legalized most of this
stuff and taxed the hell out of it, you'd most likely have an
amazing amount of revenue coming in for the government and lower
all the other taxes out there.
Of course, that would imply that we have rational discussion about
Drugs and *gasp* sex. which we know... isn't going to happen
|1.30.09 @ 4:57PM|#
insex.com you say...?
Why are my banner ads so unexciting? Let's get Reason banned at
work!
Elemenope|1.30.09 @ 4:59PM|#
What I've always found odd is that if you pay someone to have
sex with you, that's a crime, but if you pay a person to have sex
with you and then put a video camera in the room, it's perfectly
fine.
That being the case, why don't more prostitutes buy video cameras?
The unspoken agreement with the john/jane could be that the
recording would be destroyed immediately after the session (you
could even have *them* do it), and the cover would be that the
"take" wasn't good enough for the "film" you were "producing".
|1.30.09 @ 5:03PM|#
You don't even need to destroy the video. Just give it to the john^H^H^H^Hproducer.
|1.30.09 @ 5:03PM|#
Porn site operators.
Funding terrorist groups.
Do you think the people making that accusation actually believe
it?
something to put in this field|1.30.09 @ 5:05PM|#
can't view the video currently, but based on what i know of the site, when insex pulled all their material back in around '04 or so and sold the domain to some european or so, they said then they made the move on the 'fear' that the us govt would do something. they never said that dhs or anyone actually shut them down. and about a year ago they have brought some stuff back in limited release and the dude that ran the site is part of another outfit that appears to be the biggest competitor to kink.com (they have kinda of east coast west coast thing going on to)
|1.30.09 @ 5:06PM|#
Back in 2001, Ashcroft took FBI agents off of terrorism cases to
free up labor for obscenity prosecutions.
And now this.
Elemenope|1.30.09 @ 5:07PM|#
Do you think the people making that accusation actually
believe it?
Violent pornography: tool of the devil
Islam: tool of the devil
Srsly, think about who you're talking about for a second. To some
very special people, evil is an active entity with a single root
and merely several earthly manifestations. It's like playing
spiritual whack-a-mole with the universe.
|1.30.09 @ 5:11PM|#
Srsly, think about who you're talking about for a
second.
People who thought that Iraqi Baathists, then Iranian Shiites, were
allies of al Qaeda.
You've got a point.
To some very special people, evil is an active entity with a
single root and merely several earthly manifestations. You
know who produced Woodstock? The communists.
.|1.30.09 @ 5:15PM|#
Casa Blago: An Apocryphal Farewell
The scene: Early morning, in the living room of a house on the
North Side of Chicago, the day after former governor ROD
BLAGOJEVICH was removed from office. Outside, a limousine waits to
take ROD BLAGOJEVICH's wife, Patty, to the airport.
ROD BLAGOJEVICH: Last night we said a lot of s---. You said I was
gonna do the thinking for both of us. Well, I've done a lot of it
since then, and it all adds up to one thing, and it's f---ing
golden: You're getting on that plane where you belong.
Patti: But, Milorad, no, I, I--
ROD BLAGOJEVICH: Now, you've got to f---ing listen to me! You have
any idea what s--- you have to look forward to if you stay here?
Nine chances out of 10, we'd both wind up in f---ing prison. Isn't
that true, [Deputy Governor A]?
Deputy Governor A: I'm afraid Patrick Fitzgerald would
insist.
Patti: Tell him to hold up that f---ing s---. F--- them.
ROD BLAGOJEVICH: It's f---ing true. If that plane leaves the ground
and you're not on it, you'll regret it. Maybe not today. Maybe not
tomorrow, but f---ing soon and for the rest of your f---ing
life.
Patti: But what about us?
ROD BLAGOJEVICH: We'll always have Burris. We didn't have, we'd
lost it until you came to Casa Blago. We got it back last night,
when those m-----f---ers impeached my a--.
Patti: And I said I would never leave you.
ROD BLAGOJEVICH: And you never will. But I've got a f---ing job to
do, too. Where I'm going, you can't follow. What I've got to do,
you can't be any f---ing part of. Patti, I'm no f---ing good at
being noble, but it doesn't take much to see that the problems of
three little m-----f---ers don't amount to a sack of s--- in this
f---ed-up world. Someday you'll understand that. Now, now--here's
looking at you, b----.
Randall|1.30.09 @ 5:18PM|#
"Of course there are porn sites and places that are money
laundering operations, however that's because drugs are illegal,
prostitution is illegal and other things that enable organized
crime to make a killing, (literal and figuratively) if you
legalized most of this stuff and taxed the hell out of it, you'd
most likely have an amazing amount of revenue coming in for the
government and lower all the other taxes out there."
You Libertarians make this point all the time, but if this really
happened, a huge number of criminals would be out of work:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-01-29-ms13_N.htm
|1.30.09 @ 5:18PM|#
Porn site operators.
Funding terrorist groups.
Do you think the people making that accusation actually believe
it?
No. They think the public (and the jury) will believe it. They may
be right. Americans are too stupid for self government.
|1.30.09 @ 5:19PM|#
There's something wrong with this country if Blago doesn't get his own talk show. Called Blago!
Elemenope|1.30.09 @ 5:22PM|#
No. They think the public (and the jury) will believe it.
They may be right. Americans are too stupid for self
government.
J sub, I think you are underselling the subtlety of mental elision
that led many of our fine Bush-era officers to blend "all bad
things" into a giant, massive, undifferentiated pile. To, you know,
burn.
Something they learned at that fine liberal arts institution,
Liberty University.
SpongePaul|1.30.09 @ 5:24PM|#
At This point, Would it not be easier for our lord and master the fed to tell us what does not contribute to terrosim. seems like our vices which he/christian right/ etc is the problem. Strange how drugs porn etc fund terroisim is it not. HMMM! Just another attack on freedoms is all it is, another way to steal rights under the guise of protecting us
MNG|1.30.09 @ 5:58PM|#
Shouldn't SIV show up to demonstrate how the DemocRATs were
behind all this?
Or at the least a RINO...
|1.30.09 @ 6:02PM|#
"Called Blago!"
Or "The F---ing Golden Hour, with Blago!"
Or, more in line with the topic of the thread, "The F---ing Golden
Shower, with Blago!"
affenkopf|1.30.09 @ 6:31PM|#
Related: Max Hardcore just got sentenced to 4 yeats in prsion: http://boingboing.net/2008/10/07/adult-film-director.html
SIV|1.30.09 @ 7:03PM|#
Despite the elaborate equipment,interesting settings,obvious
skill and attractive female models, Insex made a lot of very boring
BDSM porn. I do like bits and pieces such as the girl in bondage
getting shot in the ass by paintballs.
Their clips have more educational than erotic value IMHO.
Elemenope|1.30.09 @ 8:28PM|#
I do like bits and pieces such as the girl in bondage
getting shot in the ass by paintballs.
Huh.
|1.30.09 @ 9:18PM|#
joe | January 30, 2009, 5:03pm | #
Porn site operators.
Funding terrorist groups.
Do you think the people making that accusation actually believe it?
Sadly, I do.
Even sadder: They have power to act on that belief.
Anna|1.30.09 @ 10:33PM|#
'what i know of the site, when insex pulled all their material
back in around '04 or so and sold the domain to some european or
so, they said then they made the move on the 'fear' that the us
govt would do something. they never said that dhs or anyone
actually shut them down.'
That was because of the gag order on the patriot act, it seemed
like a better alternative than going to jail for talking about
it.
Paul|1.30.09 @ 11:41PM|#
Do you think the people making that accusation actually
believe it?
It doesn't matter. Laws like the PATRIOT act are routinely used to
limit other activities having nothing to do with the initial
intention of said act. Remember, in the end, a law is just a
tool.
Atanarjuat|1.31.09 @ 12:08AM|#
Something about the chick who was a cast member reminds me of my
friend's younger sister*.
*yes, she is over 18.
BT6|1.31.09 @ 12:24AM|#
"if you legalized most of this stuff and taxed the hell out of
it, you'd most likely have an amazing amount of revenue coming in
for the government and lower all the other taxes out there."
Perhaps so, but as long as the government plans to mess with out
minds and screw us, they don't want the competition.
|1.31.09 @ 3:52AM|#
"if you legalized most of this stuff and taxed the hell out of
it, you'd most likely have an amazing amount of revenue coming in
for the government and lower all the other taxes out there."
But if you go nuts and truly "tax the hell out of it," you risk
driving it back underground. Money's always an object. If cig.
taxes go up enough, I may wind up casting my morals aside and
purchasing mail-order smokes with Cyrillic on them, even though it
would probably finance the Russian mob or Chechen rebels. Ah, the
combination of addiction and limited funding...
Also, nobody on the supply side is just going to take a pay cut and
bop merrily along because they're on the good side of the fence
now.
|1.31.09 @ 12:14PM|#
Do you think you could fill in some details about exactly how the patriot act was invoked. I don't understand exactly, something about credit cards?
|1.31.09 @ 1:15PM|#
The USA PATRIOT Act authorizes the feds to demand all sorts of
information from banks - without warrants, of course - about
customers/clients that the feds decide they want to look at closer
as part of a terrorism investigation.
No bank wants to be buried under mountains of reporting
requirements. Nor do they want to get on the feds' bad side by
pushing back.
So it's pretty easy for the feds to get a bank to stop servicing a
client.
|1.31.09 @ 8:29PM|#
Those must be some pretty freewheeling Islamic fundamentalist extremists, but what do they have against porn that isn't hardcore bondage?
|2.1.09 @ 7:10AM|#
Hmmm..."freewheeling Islamic fundamentalist extremists"..."porn" and "hardcore bondage" in one sentence. Best sentence ever?
Wicks Cherrycoke|2.1.09 @ 9:01AM|#
Did anyone actually see this letter from Homeland Security? After hearing the closing speech from the producer, my spider senses make me wonder if we are getting a straight story here.
Anna|2.1.09 @ 1:28PM|#
The founder of Insex.com saw the letter:
http://se.youtube.com/watch?v=GL4rUYOTvYg
JB|2.2.09 @ 4:46AM|#
Hell, let's close down the Oral Office.
We know Slick Willy used that place to ignore Osama while getting
head from an intern.
recorded|2.2.09 @ 4:10PM|#
Nick Gillespie, wearing not but his leather jacket, sits on a
metal folding chair and masturbates to the bondage
pornography.
Did any of you people even google this outfit? Sounds quite
unhinged.
http://arkansas.indymedia.org/newswire/display/19165/index.php
http://santacruz.indymedia.org/newswire/display/18775/index.php
Reason, if not for Radley Balko, I would not read your website. I
just realized that today.
What's that? Balko has his own site, theagitator.com?
Looks like this is goodbye Reason. I guess nothing lasts forever,
but I thought I would be reading you for quite a long time.
The sad thing is, I never even got to read that copy of The
Fountainhead that you got me for our anniversary. In fact, I'm
going to go burn it right now.
This comment may have been recorded for political control
purposes.
|2.3.09 @ 6:00AM|#
I'm glad the government is cracking down on this pretend-torture. It makes me feel a lot better about the real torture the government has been doing.
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