January 25, 2009
Did
you know that Barry Goldwater helped save taxpayer funding for
Sesame Street back in the day? Or that the yellow-skinned muppet
Bert was seen consorting with Bin Laden right after the 9/11
attacks? Or that the show's politically correct research director
in the 1990s once declared that the part of a chicken in a
make-believe play could only be played by...a make-believe
chicken?
In The Washington Post, Nick Gillespie reviews Michael Davis's Street Gang: The Complete History of Sesame Street. A snippet:
Street Gang is mired in unnecessary details, endless litanies of names and prose that is several shades more purple than the skin of Count von Count, the show's obsessive-compulsive, mathematically inclined vampire. "Jon Stone approached a typewriter in the same way that a concert pianist approached a Steinway," Davis writes in a typical flourish, describing a co-producer of the show. Elsewhere, he intones that when Cooney decided to wean her production company off federal assistance, "she had unwittingly made a kind of Sophie's Choice. Sesame Street would survive, The Electric Company would not."
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"the yellow-skinned muppet Bert was seen consorting with Bin
Laden."
Does Ernie know about this? It's sad to see Osama breaking up a
happy home.
How about "anyone under 48," Nick? Being 47, I remember rushing home to watch the show from its inception, when the episode numbers were in the single digits. And reading a preview article about the show in "Scholastic" magazine, thinking it was going to be called "See-Same Street." I'm not sure it helped my education any ... I just liked watching the not-snack-PC Cookie Monster eat those cookies.
Sesame Street was after my time but I do have nieces and nephews
so avoiding it has proven to be impossible. Some thoughts on the
show and the article -
It's a good show for kiddies.
It markets merchandise extremely well.
No contributor was more important than Jim Henson, the muppet master whose laid-back hippie persona masked a bulldog businessman who never fulfilled his dreams of succeeding with a mature audience.[italics added]
I call horsefeathers. The Muppet Show was a prime time success
story for five(?) years and was definitely aimed at adults.
This is so
classic a Sesame Street bit it had to be linked to.
Indeed, the National Assessment of Educational Progress, which has tracked students since the early '70s, reports that there has been precious little increase in reading and math test scores among the generations raised on "Sesame Street" (despite the more than doubling of inflation-adjusted expenditures per pupil over the same period).
It's difficult, if not impossible, for the social sciences to
determine the effectiveness of any individual influence on
something as complex as children's reading and math scores. IM(not
so)HO, the unintended negative consequences fron LBJ's War on
Poverty (have we won that one yet?) would likely overwhelm
any positive effects that Sesame Street had with children from low
income families.
I give the show ★★★★.
Echoing J sub D.
The Muppet Show...Pigs in Space!
I'll never forget the planet Koozebane. The first time I saw that I
laughed my ass off. Because it reminded me of Coos Bay and not only
in name. Turns out that Hensen was actually riffing on the real
Coos Bay.
The Muppet Show was a prime time success story for five(?)
years and was definitely aimed at adults.
By the standards of the network suits, I don't think it was*. And
he had to produce it overseas and syndicate it in the US. - though
which likely helped it survive the initial rough patch. Reruns, the
movies**, and 'moychen-dicin', I believe ultimately contributed to
it being a keystone of the Henson empire.
*at least per wikipedia, not at first.
**which were specifically aimed at kids, but had some 'adult humor'
esp the first one
Jon Stone approached a typewriter in the same way that a
concert pianist approached a Steinway
With a cigar and a tumbler of Black Label? That's how I do it. But
enough about me.
How about "anyone under 48," Nick?
Hell I'm 46 and remember the beginning of Sesame Street.That show
was for babies.The Electric Company was more geared for my
age group but it had this creepy socialist vibe.I much preferred
the local commercial TV kid shows that mixed hyperactive studio
mayhem with syndicated cartoons.I remember being a guest on one as
a Cub Scout and the production staff threated us with violence
because we flipped off the camera every time the red light came
on.
The Electric Company was more geared for my age group but it
had this creepy socialist vibe.
Huh, what?
Too funny not to
link.
Sesame Street DVDs Dubbed 'Not Suitable for
Children'
The reason for the warning has been put down to the fact that
children nowadays are unprepared to witness the likes of Cookie
Monster holding and eating a pipe and that Oscar the Grouch is too
miserable for today's kids.
But I was heartened to see there's
still a strong majority saying federal government should be
smaller, not larger.
For all that the trolls here try to pretend otherwise, the
minarchist ideal of libertarianism is still very mainstream. It
just isn't happening because of politicians' greed.
But I was heartened to see there's still a strong majority
saying federal government should be smaller, not larger.
For all that the trolls here try to pretend otherwise, the
minarchist ideal of libertarianism is still very mainstream. It
just isn't happening because of politicians' greed.
Depends on how you phrase the question. If you ask: "Would you like
government to be smaller?"
A majority of people would probably say yes.
If you ask: "Would you like to stop getting your goverment
cheese?"
A majority of people will say no.
It's easy to say no to big government when it's not coming out of
your pocket (tax witholding being the exception, since it never
reaches your pocket in the first place)...
Does Ernie know about this? It's sad to see Osama breaking
up a happy home.
He said consorting, not contorting. Though I hear those muppets are
pretty lithe and flexible when they want to be. ;-)
Given Reason's opinion of what the #1 libertarian issue is, I'd think they'd cut Bert some slack.
as an almost 30 somthing (just old enough to remember leaving the room when a show called that would come on...) w/ a serious monday morning problem, did anybody notice how the imperialist fraggle oppressors would just freakin eat the workerdozers shit like it was drugs, or is that akin to the whole wizard of oz as populist fable conspiracy theory?...for that matter i always thought those commie smurfs vs gold-hungry gargemele & azrael meant somthin too...
Actually, I think the Osama Bin Laden/Bert photo was taken from a interview, with Bert just coincidentally enough in the background. Though that specific photo could be from the website.
"But I was heartened to see there's still a strong majority
saying federal government should be smaller, not larger. For all
that the trolls here try to pretend otherwise, the minarchist ideal
of libertarianism is still very mainstream. It just isn't happening
because of politicians' greed."
Well, I guess I'm a troll because I don't see how saying "yes" to
smaller government is equivalent to saying "yes" to
mini-anarchism.
There is lots of room in-between where we are at and where you want
to go. Simply saying "yes" to smaller government just means less
than we have now. It doesn't necessarily mean going all the way to
mini-anarchism.
Did you miss the episode of Sesame Street where the Count went over
not reading into survey questions things that are not there?
"Jon Stone approached a typewriter in the same way that a
concert pianist approached a Steinway,"
Paging Bulwer-Lytton...
How does Gillespie conclude that the relationship between J. Edgar Hoover and Clyde Tolson was chaste?
How does Gillespie conclude that the relationship between J. Edgar Hoover and Clyde Tolson was chaste?
Hey, we don't know what Ernie and Bert do behind closed doors
either.
Public image, man, public image.
The Electric Company was extremely trippy. There can be little doubt that there were a LOT of controlled substances behind the scenes, especially in the first couple of years. The show screams early 70s counterculture (I saw this as the highest compliment).
I remember a bit with Grover talking about the importance of
fiber.
In the bit, he was building a brick wall and remarked that "Fiber
makes Grover lay good bricks!"
That, ladies and gentlemen, is comedy.
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