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Sure, Al. A Couple Hundred Tortured Detainees, 100,000+ Iraqi Citizens, the U.S. Constitution, and You.
Former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales actually made John Ashcroft look like the Bush administration's resident civil libertarian. By the time he left office, his zeal for executive power coupled with political ineptitude and general incompetence managed to win him contempt from both the left and the right.
Now Gonzales can't find a publisher for his book, and no one has yet offered him the cushy, high-paying job at a D.C. law firm that high-ranking public officials seem to think they're entitled to upon stepping down.
According to Gonzales, Gonzales is a victim. Check out this quote from his interview with the Wall Street Journal this week:
"What is it that I did that is so fundamentally wrong, that deserves this kind of response to my service?
. . . for some reason, I am portrayed as the one who is evil in formulating policies that people disagree with. I consider myself a casualty, one of the many casualties of the war on terror."
KT|1.2.09 @ 10:40AM|#
Man. Republicans are really on some next-level shit as far as shameless denial of reality. They are just on their A game there. Remember when they made fun of Baghdad Bob? Now they are Baghdad Bob.
|1.2.09 @ 10:44AM|#
What a tool. A man should know his own limits, and Alberto
Gonzales should have known that the AG position was beyond his
capabilities.
I know if I were offered the job, I'd turn it down in a
heartbeat.
|1.2.09 @ 10:46AM|#
Not me. I'd take it, then I'd pronounce virtually everything unconstitutional. If the president ignored me, I'd go whine to Congress. I figure I'd make it two months before I got fired. Then I'd do the talk show circuit as the mavericky former AG.
|1.2.09 @ 10:47AM|#
Sadly, RC, the job of the Attorney General as envisioned by Bush and Cheney was not beyond the capabilities of Alberto Gonzales.
|1.2.09 @ 10:49AM|#
AGs almost always suck and do little more than rubber stamp
executive actions. Bah.
When I get the Censor in place, the average tenure of an AG will be
six weeks.
|1.2.09 @ 10:55AM|#
Me, Censor? Not necessary. I'd prefer some cranky, Cato-like
fellows or fellowettes with a zero tolerance policy for
unconstitutional and/or unethical behavior. Buh-bye!
Sic semper tyrannis is kind of the idea, by the way, just
with less literal death.
|1.2.09 @ 10:55AM|#
In a just world, Gonzales' whining would be conducted via notes to his public defender passed through the mesh of his dog-run at Guantanamo.
|1.2.09 @ 11:00AM|#
I'm onto you, ProL. You're "refusing" the position just like
Caesar "refused" dictator a few times.
I thrice presented him a kingly crown, which he did thrice refuse:
was this ambition?
|1.2.09 @ 11:09AM|#
As a long time and vocal critic of Gonzlaes in these here
environs, I'm sure no one will confuse me with a defender of
Gonzales or the "War on Terror", but when he said he was a
"casualty", I took it to mean he was a political casualty. ...that
he was speaking metaphorically.
Also, I find it kind of funny* to see that he's more or less
blaming this on his subordinates and/or others down the totem pole.
I guess it's a bit of a running joke that anytime someone commits a
war crime, they always seem to claim they were just following
orders. Interesting twist to see Mr. Gonzales claim he was just
giving orders...
I'd be interested to see Gonzales comment on the Schlesinger Report
directly, which seemed to be quite clear about what his role
was--it names him directly by title--in the formulation of the
changes in interrogation policy.
While it's true that the policy changes he established and signed
off on--according to the Schlesinger Report--were supposed to be
used solely on illegal combatants in Guantanamo, and that people
below him and out of the White House or Justice Department allowed
them to be implemented on POWs in Iraq, that hardly excuses his
role in establishing and implementing that policy...
Indeed, expecting those interrogation methods not to migrate is a
bit like expecting the bank bailout not to creep over into the auto
industry and anywhere else the wind blows. I mean, seriously, if he
didn't see the likelihood of that happening, then he shouldn't have
had a place at the policy making table. ...why he was elevated to
Attorney General, again, after all this came out, shows how
incompetent President Bush was. ...just in case any of you needed
further evidence of that.
One last thing, even if what Gonzales is saying were true about the
implementation side of the policy he crafted and signed off on,
even if he were only guilty of what the Schlesinger Report said he
did, that wouldn't excuse the moral depravity the interrogation
policies he helped craft and signed off on were based on.
*I used "funny" sort of like Gonzales used "casualty". Please don't
hate on me for speaking metaphorically. We should still hate
Gonzales--just for the things he did, though, rather than for his
metaphors.
|1.2.09 @ 11:12AM|#
"What is it that I did that is so fundamentally wrong, that
deserves this kind of response to my service?
That brought a tear to my reading that.
No, wait, dust mote in my eye. False alarm.
|1.2.09 @ 11:18AM|#
Does that make you Marcus Antonius?
Well, I am banging Cleopatra.
""Jupiter alone is king of Rome."
|1.2.09 @ 11:19AM|#
That brought a tear to my reading that.
Bingo! If Gonzales can't find a publisher for his book, perhaps he
would find an audience for his angsty musings in the emo community.
Hide the black eyeliner and sharp objects.
EJM|1.2.09 @ 11:21AM|#
I'm onto you, ProL. You're "refusing" the position just like
Caesar "refused" dictator a few times.
Maybe he just didn't want to be referred to as "Mr. Tater".
(Reference explained here: part 1; part 2.)
|1.2.09 @ 11:22AM|#
Well, I am banging Cleopatra.
You say that like you were the first. . .or the 300th.
People ask me, "Why are you always on about the Censor, Dr.
Libertate?" It's because people like Alberto and young George can
behave so dramatically outside of the Constitution without any
serious repercussions. The remnants of our checks and balances
aren't working any more, and there's little chance of hitting the
reset button. So the next best option is to add a new check, one
with some real, personally painful teeth. And, as an added bonus,
it offends Episiarch.
|1.2.09 @ 11:26AM|#
For thousands of years, theorists of government have been faced
with an unanswerable question: who watches the watchers?
At last, thanks to Pro Libertate, we finally have our answer: the
Censor watches the Watchers.
That was easy.
Now, onto the next question: who watches the Gatormenschen?
|1.2.09 @ 11:30AM|#
If Gonzales can't find a publisher for his book, perhaps he
would find an audience for his angsty musings in the emo
community.
Don't give him any ideas. Though, him cutting himself would have
karmic benefits.
So the next best option is to add a new check, one with some
real, personally painful teeth. And, as an added bonus, it offends
Episiarch.
It's your tone that offends me. Why are you so snotty?
Now, onto the next question: who watches the
Gatormenschen?
An Eidechse-Beobachter, of course.
|1.2.09 @ 11:32AM|#
I though HBO's Rome series captured the real
Cleopatra's essence--Greek slut.
joe et al.,
If I could come up with a good way of appointing the Censors (gotta
be a panel or group, of course), I'd seriously propose the new
branch. My law review article would be entitled, The Censor, or
I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this
anymore!.
|1.2.09 @ 11:48AM|#
Pro Lib,
I'd make all the Inspectors General throughout the federal
government agents of the Censor, rather than the executive
branch.
|1.2.09 @ 11:49AM|#
I though HBO's Rome series captured the real Cleopatra's essence--Greek slut.
I rather liked the twist about who the real father of Caesar's kid
was. But then I found Pullo the only remotely likeable character in
the whole thing. He might have been a mean, murderous motherfucker,
but except for his slave's fiance he only killed folks that needed
it.
And, damn you, you beat me to the Cleopatra joke.
Oh, and as for Gonzales. Remember his name was seriously floated as
a replacement Supreme.
And lots of folks across the spectrum were saying nice things about
him what with him being potentially the first hispanic justice and
all.
Think about that for a minute, kiddies.
|1.2.09 @ 11:59AM|#
And lots of folks across the spectrum were saying nice
things about him what with him being potentially the first hispanic
justice and all.
Yet another reason to despise the multi-culti affirmative action
reflex.
thoreau|1.2.09 @ 12:28PM|#
If Gonzales or any of the other senior Bush administration officials had an ounce of honor, they would commit ritual suicide, and donate their estates to tortured detainees and Iraq War orphans.
|1.2.09 @ 1:13PM|#
As much as i agree with all that has been said... how can your own military dead be left out of the headline/story body?
cunnivore|1.2.09 @ 1:27PM|#
Ken Schultz, I can see Rod Marinelli describing himself as a
casualty of the Lions' 0-16 season in metaphorical terms, because
no one was killed or wounded by that season.
But describing yourself as a casualty of a war that really has
killed and wounded people, just because you can't find a job? That
requires an incredible degree of self-absorption -- but we've come
to expect nothing less from Bush&Co, I suppose.
Franklin Harris|1.2.09 @ 1:32PM|#
"What is it that I did that is so fundamentally wrong, that deserves this kind of response to my service?"
This is like a dog who keeps going on the carpet no matter how many
times you rub his nose in it.
Franklin Harris|1.2.09 @ 1:33PM|#
Greek slut.
Isn't that redundant?
(Nor for modern Greeks. Just the Classical ones. And maybe
Yanni.)
cunnivore|1.2.09 @ 1:50PM|#
Franklin, that's an awful thing to say about Marina
Sirtis.
Ugh. Seeing a woman you jerked off to God-knows-how-many-times get
older is a seriously depressing reminder of mortality and the rule
of decay. Thanks for reminding me.
Ska|1.2.09 @ 2:05PM|#
I once saw a Skinemax flick featuring Beverly D'Angelo, about 10
- 15 years ago. She's got some huge tits.
Also a Skinemax flick with the chick from Jag. That was a pleasant
surprise.
cunnivore|1.2.09 @ 2:22PM|#
I thought you were into Beverly Crusher, not Deanna
Troi.
You have a good memory. Either that or the mere mention of a crush
on Crusher causes severe trauma, I'm not sure.
But in truth, I was very promiscuous in my stroke-objectification.
Well, I never rubbed one out to Dr Pulaski, but I did think about
it. If she was good enough for that omnipotent fish head in space
guy (Nagilum), she should be good enough for me, no?
Fluffy|1.2.09 @ 2:35PM|#
We can have the office of censor pretty easily if we bring back
the Special Prosecutor law and simply use a triple mechanism for
the appointment of special prosecutors:
1. Either the House or Senate may by a simple majority vote appoint
a special prosecutor to investigate any activity by the executive
branch or any federal judge. The Senate's votes on this subject can
be offered on the floor by any Senator and are not subject to
cloture votes.
2. The Attorney General may appoint a special prosecutor to
investigate any activity by a Congressman, a congressional staffer,
or any federal judge.
3. Any appeals court may by a simple majority of its members
appoint a special prosecutor to investigate any activity by a
Congressman, a congressional staffer, or any member of the
executive branch.
Voila. Censors as far as the eye can see.
|1.2.09 @ 2:42PM|#
You have a good memory. Either that or the mere mention of a
crush on Crusher causes severe trauma, I'm not sure.
Both.
Well, I never rubbed one out to Dr Pulaski, but I did think
about it. If she was good enough for that omnipotent fish head in
space guy (Nagilum), she should be good enough for me,
no?
In her case, there is in truth no beauty.
|1.2.09 @ 3:21PM|#
Hmm, I'm not a Diana Muldaur fan, Fluffy. But somebody must have liked her because she got to do two episodes as two separate characters.
Dr. Helen Noel|1.2.09 @ 3:31PM|#
I was the hottest guest star on Star Trek. Diana was on twice because she was shagging Gene.
|1.2.09 @ 4:07PM|#
I was the hottest guest star on Star Trek.
Sorry, Barbara Babcock (also on twice - in TOS) and Joan Collins
have beaten severely. And Angelique Pettyjohn will pin you down and
abuse you whilst I watch amused.
"I'd buy that for a Quatloo!"
|1.2.09 @ 4:21PM|#
Denied, Pulaski! Richard Dysart was right to let you walk into that open elevator shaft.
|1.2.09 @ 4:27PM|#
Marianna Hill? Get serious. JW is totally right.
"These would stop Joan Collins herself!"
|1.2.09 @ 4:28PM|#
Damn you Dr. Noel! Now I have to go and punish myself for getting my TOS guest stars confused.
Dr. Helen Noel|1.2.09 @ 4:33PM|#
Even now, JW is thinking about my womanliness as he "punishes"
himself.
Joan Collins is a man.
Dr. Helen Noel|1.2.09 @ 4:40PM|#
Episiarch. There is something Glenn Danzig never told you. I am your mother.
Dr. Helen Noel|1.2.09 @ 4:47PM|#
She had a nice outfit, that's for sure. I did her in a four-way with Shatner and Ted Cassidy.
Fresno Bob|1.2.09 @ 6:25PM|#
I did her in a four-way with Shatner and Ted
Cassidy.
You must have been pretty wasted that night. It was Conrad Bain and
Jerry Mathers, not Shatner & Cassidy.
cunnivore|1.2.09 @ 6:30PM|#
Still, TNG had way moe hot guest stars...Ashley Judd, Teri Hatcher, Olivia d'Abo, Famke Jansen...
|1.2.09 @ 10:40PM|#
Pro Libertate | January 2, 2009, 10:46am | #
Not me. I'd take it, then I'd pronounce virtually everything
unconstitutional. If the president ignored me, I'd go whine to
Congress. I figure I'd make it two months before I got fired. Then
I'd do the talk show circuit as the mavericky former
AG.
Amen
|1.2.09 @ 11:10PM|#
Former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales actually made John Ashcroft look like the Bush administration's resident civil libertarian.
Well, sure. Ashcroft was pretty good on civil liberties as a
Senator, and as a host of books have pointed out, he was one of the
better ones on civil liberties in the Bush Administration. Granted,
he wasn't great on pornography (though the juvenile bit about AP
reporters insisting on framing him with a nude statue did no one
any favors.)
However, since too many people on the Left (and libertarians as
well) were scared of him for being not only religious, but a
Pentacostal, we got the incompetent Gonzalez instead, along with a
lot of ridiculous attacks demonizing one of the few standing
against the worst proposed abuses. And those attacks probably
worsened civil liberties in this country.
The absurdity of making Ashcroft into a hate figure is one of the
low points of supposed defenders of civil liberties in this
country. At least Reason belatedly realizes that Gonzalez
was worse-- that he was going to be was obvious at the time, for
anyone who paid attention to policy, instead of identity.
Mad Max|1.2.09 @ 11:55PM|#
"I rather liked the twist about who the real father of Caesar's
kid was."
No - not Darth Vader!
|1.3.09 @ 10:40AM|#
However, since too many people on the Left (and libertarians
as well) were scared of him for being not only religious, but a
Pentacostal, we got the incompetent Gonzalez instead.
Uh, yeah...it was the awesome power of the Left (and libertarians
as well) during George Bush's first term that led to John Ashcroft
leaving office. You know that Bush/Cheney administration - always
getting pushed around by the Left (and libertarians as well).
Um...what?
The Gonzalinator|1.5.09 @ 7:46AM|#
If anyone ever deserved to eat a big bag of human shit, it's ol' Alberto.
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