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15-Year-Old Arrested, Jailed for Nude Cell Phone Photos of Herself
What a dumb waste of resources.
The judge has some discretion, here, but by the letter of the law, she could be forced to register as a sex offender for 20 years.
|10.10.08 @ 10:37AM|#
We need more criminals. Felony offender, likely to plead out,
will lose right to vote, right to guns, opportunities, and will
wear the scarlet letter S for sexual criminal.
goddam idiots but not the first or last times.
|10.10.08 @ 10:41AM|#
Cell phones shold be illegal. If she didn't have access to a celly, she never would have become a pedo.
anarch|10.10.08 @ 10:43AM|#
During assemblies, [Prosecutor] Oswalt talked about the dangers, both in personal embarrassment
Which he's just helped her narrowly to escape, thank
goodness.
possession of criminal tools
A description better applied to certain government agents.
New World Dan|10.10.08 @ 10:45AM|#
It seems there have been quite a few of these stories in the last few weeks. This is a funny way of protecting teenagers from themselves. When I was 15, if you wanted to see a girl's tits, you had to get her drunk first. (git off my lawn)
ed|10.10.08 @ 10:48AM|#
If she masturbates, can they arrest her for child
molestation?
Girl: Hold it! Next man makes a move, the slut
gets it!
Prosecutor: Hold it, men. She's not
bluffing.
Defense attorney: Listen to him, men, she's just
crazy enough to do it!
Girl: Drop it! Or I swear I'll blow this slut's
head all over this town!
|10.10.08 @ 10:48AM|#
NWD, get her drunk? Thats disgusting. I found it much easier just to say, "I love you."
|10.10.08 @ 10:50AM|#
"State Rep. Jay Hottinger, R-Newark, wrote the state's
Megan's Law bill, the predecessor of the Adam Walsh Act, and said
this case was not something the legislature envisioned."
Funny how when you write over-broad and ill conceived legislation
"for the children", it tends to get applied where you didn't
intend.
|10.10.08 @ 10:52AM|#
NWD, get her drunk? Thats disgusting. I found it much easier
just to say, "I love you."
You could always do both. Might get you farther than 2nd base.
|10.10.08 @ 10:52AM|#
Not going after New World Dan, but...
There does seem to be a buried streak of "Damn kids have it too
easy these days" about a lot of these stories. Just because your
girlfriend in 10th grade didn't email you dirty pictures is not a
reason to criminalize it now.
The kid did something stupid and it's public. Her sufficient
punishment is the certain knowledge that one or two mouth-breathing
cops whacked it in the station to a blurry pic of her breasts.
|10.10.08 @ 10:56AM|#
There does seem to be a buried streak of "Damn kids have it
too easy these days" about a lot of these stories
100% agreement. Adults always seem to think the latest generation
is having rainbow parties and orgies on the bus, and many seem to
be pissed about it, because they feel like they missed out or
something. And then they take it out on anyone who gives them an
opportunity.
Sexual frustration can be an ugly thing.
|10.10.08 @ 11:02AM|#
This just goes to show you can be a complete fucking idiot and
still make through law school, get vetted by the character and
fitness.
What if she does have to register?
Did I say how fucking stupid this is?
The real fucking perverts are the prosecutors. Plus when they show
the pictures to the jury, they are going to distribute MORE of
these pictures. Bet those fucking pigs and prosecutors keep a
couple copies for themselves.
Fucking pigs.
Bingo|10.10.08 @ 11:04AM|#
Before technology and internets, everything was like in the old black and white sitcoms. It's this darn technology thats corrupting our youth!
|10.10.08 @ 11:05AM|#
This girl is in jail for exposing bullshit not her tits. The jihad against child porn is based on the idea that every child is irreparably victimized if someone sees them naked and thinks lustful thoughts. Here we have a minor who not only isn't damaged but also seems to enjoy it. She is also 15 which is a really uncomfortable age for our society. There is not just the bullshit that any picture of a naked child is automatically the worst thing ever, there is also the bullshit that a 15 year old is just like a 10 year old sexually. None of this can be true. She make the mistake of exposing a whole lot of bullshit that has been flying around over the last 40 years in this country. She must be punished for it.
|10.10.08 @ 11:06AM|#
If she masturbates, can they arrest her for child
molestation? Rape?
Please, Do not give this particularly heinous species of idiot
called the Juris Doctor any ideas, please.
|10.10.08 @ 11:10AM|#
Thank goodness! The "financial meltdown" is apparently over, and we can go back to worrying about partially developed titties and missing PartayGurlz.
|10.10.08 @ 11:11AM|#
Cell phones are "criminal tools"? Who elects the morons that
enact nonsense laws like this?* If a 15 year old paints a nude self
portrait, are the brushes "criminal tools"?
Photocopying her butt, the Xerox machine?
*I know, I know. The American citizens.
*sigh*
|10.10.08 @ 11:14AM|#
J sub, I would say that the prosecutor and cops in this case are criminal tools.
|10.10.08 @ 11:18AM|#
If I call my broker and short General Motors, does that make my
cellphone a criminal tool?
*Actually, I think Rick Wagoner is a "criminal tool". And I do not
even own shares in GM.
|10.10.08 @ 11:21AM|#
Epi,
You can't go soft on child nudity. It's a crime! There's always an
election coming up.
I'll wager the D.A.was elected. 50/50 says he'll win if he runs
again.
|10.10.08 @ 11:23AM|#
"What we're aiming at was a growing problem that we were seeing amongst juveniles and that was they were committing some very serious adult-like crimes," [Hottinger] said.
Having sexual feelings: an adult-like crime.
Kolohe|10.10.08 @ 11:28AM|#
Before technology and internets, everything was like in the
old black and white sitcoms. It's this darn technology thats
corrupting our youth!
To be fair, if you you back far enough,
the world was in black and white. Didn't turn color until
sometime in the 30's.
|10.10.08 @ 11:31AM|#
My officemate has a naked picture of his newborn baby on his desk RIGHT NOW. Is there a hotline I can call?
Kolohe|10.10.08 @ 11:31AM|#
Oh, and the article is useless without pics.
(oh, so *that's* what brimstone smells like)
|10.10.08 @ 11:34AM|#
A guy a work with has a two year old who occasionally runs through the house naked when company is there. Exposing yourself and having a minor run around naked in public is a serous adult crime. They clearly need to lock the kid up.
|10.10.08 @ 11:39AM|#
You can't go soft on child nudity. It's a crime! There's
always an election coming up.
Props to J sub D for a nice pair of double entendres!
Ska|10.10.08 @ 11:51AM|#
damn, a pervert beat me to it.
Lucky bastard, I had to beat myself to the last pic of a topless 15
year old I had.
bud-dum-cha
ktc2|10.10.08 @ 11:51AM|#
Have to agree with John @ 11:05.
These cases are about preserving the lies at all costs.
|10.10.08 @ 11:56AM|#
Man, Ohio is making me proud every time I turn around.
I'm starting to hate this state...does anybody live in Vegas?
*asks dreamily*: What's it like?
|10.10.08 @ 11:59AM|#
Atabrat, I seem to recall a case from 10-15 years ago about a bodybuilder being prosecuted for a pic of him shirtless, holding his naked baby son.
|10.10.08 @ 12:01PM|#
I'm starting to hate this state...does anybody live in
Vegas? *asks dreamily*: What's it like?
I have a decent shot at a non-gambling related job in Vegas with an
old boss of mine. The missus will probably put the kibosh on it
though. :::sigh:::
|10.10.08 @ 12:07PM|#
Well that's odd. Yesterday on the radio I heard about a girl who
sent a nude photo of herself to a boy, and that *he* was in trouble
for possessing child porn while *she* was off the hook.
Different stories? Radio host got it wrong?
Hm. Well it was AM 840, which is Fox I think.
Curious
Gorgeous Gus the Wonder Dog|10.10.08 @ 12:36PM|#
"To be fair, if you you back far enough, the world was in black
and white. Didn't turn color until sometime in the 30's."
Wasn't there a movie about that? Pleasantville, I think or
something like that. Did they steal the idea from Calvin and
Hobbs?
Mark A Tarnowski|10.10.08 @ 12:41PM|#
"After spending the weekend incarcerated"
Incarcerated? That's just wrong. It's not as if she were a threat
to society.
bill|10.10.08 @ 12:44PM|#
I thought the federal courts had decided a few years ago that just nude photos of children aren't pornography. They have to have some sexually suggestive component to make them illegal. Some parents had gotten in trouble for taking pictures of their 3 year old in the tub or some shit like that.
|10.10.08 @ 12:45PM|#
What's the statute of limitations on sexual deviancy?
I showed my female cousin my dick when I was 8.
If she turns state's, I'm fucked.
|10.10.08 @ 1:05PM|#
The quote I posted earlier is still bothering me. Is Hottinger
saying that taking nude photos of oneself as an adult constitutes a
crime?
"Adult-like crimes." What does that even mean? Is he trying to say
"crimes involving sexual abuse perpetrated on teenagers and
children" without saying it? Because, even if that is what he
means, and even if you add "such crimes being perpetrated by other
teenagers," the definition of "crime" has to be expanded to include
the willful photography by oneself of oneself in the nude, with the
intent to do harm to oneself, or intent otherwise criminal.
I'm going to guess that Hottinger doesn't even know what he meant
by what he said, and couldn't explain it if pressed, and that this
boils down to a case of abuse the children to save the children-
abuse, in this instance, what I call running a scared and
humiliated teenage girl through the meat grinder of Ohio's legal
system.
hmmm|10.10.08 @ 1:09PM|#
Here is a link to the story Bronwyn mentioned.
www.khou.com/news/state/stories/khou081008_ar_porntext.f31234e3.html
While utterly ridiculous, at least in the reason linked case the
girl did not get the Standard Female Responsibility Discount, i.e.
a pussy pass.
Reformed Republican|10.10.08 @ 1:18PM|#
In Pleasantville, they go into a TV sitcom from the black and
white era. It is a similar idea, but not exactly the same as going
back in time.
I thought it was a good movie, though.
|10.10.08 @ 1:27PM|#
Her punishment for using electronic devices to widely distribute
her photo and thus wreck her reputation is to have her photo widely
distributed using electronic devices, thus wrecking her
reputation?
Whisky Tango Foxtrot?
|10.10.08 @ 1:30PM|#
While utterly ridiculous, at least in the reason linked case
the girl did not get the Standard Female Responsibility Discount,
i.e. a pussy pass.
Yeah, it's good to keep our priorities in order and celebrate the
fact that at least the story gives us the opportunity to remind
each other that men are always the ones who get screwed in this
society. Let the girl rot in jail--every cloud has a silver
lining!
hmmm|10.10.08 @ 1:38PM|#
Parse, in theory you thinking is correct but in pratice it is
unhelpful.
The fact is that if you want to fix this kind of crap for everyone
then the punishment must apply to girls as well as boys. If it is
allowed to be a male only problem then the draconian standards will
reign.
MAX HATS|10.10.08 @ 1:52PM|#
Poor kid.
This is evil. Making this arrest and choosing to prosecute on this
are acts of evil. No two ways about it.
|10.10.08 @ 1:56PM|#
Her punishment for using electronic devices to widely
distribute her photo and thus wreck her reputation is to have her
photo widely distributed using electronic devices, thus wrecking
her reputation?
Talk about having the punishment fit the "crime".
|10.10.08 @ 1:57PM|#
The fact is that if you want to fix this kind of crap for
everyone then the punishment must apply to girls as well as boys.
If it is allowed to be a male only problem then the draconian
standards will reign.
Yes, because men are always the ones who get screwed in this
society. I'm glad you reminded us of that.
TallDave|10.10.08 @ 2:49PM|#
Her punishment for using electronic devices to widely
distribute her photo and thus wreck her reputation
Heh. Teens today are growing up in the age of widely available
Internet porn. These days, being seen naked only ruins a girl's
reputation if she lives in Saudi Arabia.
Let's be realistic: this is purely puritan prudery, and has nothing
to do with protecting anyone.
Andrea S.|10.10.08 @ 4:01PM|#
Amusingly, Amarok chose to play Depeche Mode's "Little 15" at the precise moment I read this.
|10.10.08 @ 7:34PM|#
Stevo Darkly's on her Fave Five I bet. ;-)
What the --! Here I'm off minding my own business, until I just
happen to stop by and check out this particular thread,
and I find myself personally misaligned! I've been
misconstruedeled!
I deny all allegations, and what's more, I intend to prosecute the
allegators.
Also, however comely a female might become upon her 18th birthday,
prior to that date I find them all visually repulsive. I'll have
you know.
miche|10.10.08 @ 7:59PM|#
does anybody live in Vegas?
Nobody goes there anymore; it's too crowded.
Not right now. I was there Mon-Wed and it was dead. As far as
living there goes, my friend said it's all hookers and blow.
|10.11.08 @ 12:45PM|#
Wait a second...
I know it's a little late to contribute to the discussion, but I
just remembered that, according to the Ohio Supreme Court, the
young lady could legally walk around topless in public. How can
that be legal, but these pictures not be?
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