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The Coming aPaulcalypse
Suzanne Gamboa previews the Ron Paul Rally for the Republic with details on how Paul will be treated at the RNC (guess) and how Paul diehards are getting to the event.
Paul has no speaking role at the GOP convention. He said his staff made overtures to the party, but nothing came of its efforts.
Republican Party spokeswoman Joanna Burgos said she had to research whether Paul was invited to speak when asked about a convention role for Paul.
"Our focus is really on this side of the river," Burgos said. "We think there's enough excitement and energy on this side." McCain's campaign spokesman did not return a phone message.
Rally attendees can pay extra to attend an electoral boot camp. To save money, some are bunking outside the city.
Paul backers who aren't staying at the Minneapolis hotel or a budget motel planned to bunk in group cabins at Camp Ihduhapi on Lake Independence, park RVs or pitch tents at campgrounds or head to a Goodhue, Minn., dairy farm for Ronstock '08, an imitation of the 1960s Woodstock counterculture festival. Organizers there say a neighbor of the farm's owner is donating a cow to feed the flock.
Here's some of the combative final promotional material for the event (ostensibly written by the man, the doctor, the rEVOLutionary himself):
The situation our country faces is as dangerous as ever. A certain Democratic senator, recently passed over for the Republican vice-presidential nod, is likely to be our next secretary of state. Both major parties remain committed to militarism and reckless spending - and inflationism to fund it all.
At their convention the Democrats uttered barely a peep about the surveillance state, the police state, and the Bush administration's disastrous foreign policy. Needless to say, there was not a word about the Fed and what it's done to our economy. We can only imagine what the GOP Convention will have in store for us.
The Rally for the Republic is the first step in alerting our countrymen to these dangers, and holding out the message of freedom as the only remedy. We must resist the false choices the two major parties are giving us.
Here's the schedule:
12:30 - Intro: Tucker Carlson
12:40 - National Anthem: Matt Colvin
12:50 - Invocation: Barb Davis White
12:55 - Howard Phillips
1:10 - Doug Wead
1:30 - Tom Woods
1:50 - Grover Norquist
2:10 - Lew Rockwell
2:30 - Bill Kauffman
2:50 - Special Guest
3:10 - Bruce Fein
3:35 - Gov. Jesse Ventura
4:05 - John Tate‚ Campaign for Liberty Presentation
4:25 - Gov. Gary Johnson
5:00 - Aimee Allen
6:00 - Break
7:00 - Intro: Barry Goldwater Jr.
7:05 - Ron Paul
8:05 - Sara Evans
9:30 - End of Program
9:30 - Jimmie Vaughan After Party
Yes, Grover Norquist will share a green room with Lew Rockwell. The balance between the more nationalist, paleo Paul backers (Phillips, Woods) and the more media-friendly ones (Ventura, Johnson) is more or less 50-50. I'm not sure what I think about a whole hour of Aimee Allen. Also: If I read this correctly, Paul is speaking the same time that Rudy "Ask Me How Many Delegates I Won!" Giuliani will be grunting about 9/11 at the Xcel Center.
Fluffy|8.30.08 @ 11:56AM|#
If I was 15 years younger and single I would have gone to this
to try to mobilize Paulistinians for a raid on the main
convention.
The mainstream media will not even mention this event unless it
turns into Chicago 68.
Travis|8.30.08 @ 12:03PM|#
Fluffy,
You could call you republican insurgent group the PLF.
Paulistinian Liberation Front.
|8.30.08 @ 12:07PM|#
You could call you republican insurgent group the PLF.
Paulistinian Liberation Front.
But then it would splinter, with the new Paulistinian Liberation
Alliance and the Paulistinian Liberation League shouting
"splitters" and possibly yelling "In the name of Paul", etc. It's
not worth it.
Travis|8.30.08 @ 12:12PM|#
"But then it would splinter, with the new Paulistinian
Liberation Alliance and the Paulistinian Liberation League shouting
"splitters" and possibly yelling "In the name of Paul", etc. It's
not worth it."
Yeah, the PLF are a bunch of sell outs. I'm backing the
PLO(Paulistinian Liberation Organization).
tim|8.30.08 @ 12:29PM|#
Its bad enough we are hosting the RNC but now we have the Ron Paul nut cases. Wonder if its too late to book a trip out of here next week....
|8.30.08 @ 12:37PM|#
See, you can't force an Operation Chaos. You can't scheme to make it happen. It just has to come about organically.
|8.30.08 @ 12:42PM|#
If your gathering can't attract a Fred Phelps protest, you need
to pack it in.
Heck, Westboro Baptist once picked my city's high school graduation
ceremony.
|8.30.08 @ 12:48PM|#
oh goody...neo-Confederates like Tom Woods and Llewellyn are just who we need to prove how pro-liberty we are.
|8.30.08 @ 12:49PM|#
where's the speaking slot for the "biologist" who told Paul that blacks are incredibly fleet of foot?
BDB|8.30.08 @ 12:52PM|#
"Heck, Westboro Baptist once picked my city's high school
graduation ceremony."
Wow. What did your high school do to draw his ire? Did it have a
Gay-Straight Alliance or something?
BDB|8.30.08 @ 1:00PM|#
Now that I've had time to think on it, the only state Palin can really put out of play is Montana.
|8.30.08 @ 1:05PM|#
BDB,
Gay-straight alliances. They picketed Lexington and Lowell. In both
places, they were met with big counter-protests.
|8.30.08 @ 1:25PM|#
Slightly off-topic, is it time to declare the Barr campaign a failure in its stated mission to give the LP more visibility? The last 5 people to whom I suggested I would vote for him gave the same response: "Who?" (All were reasonably politically-aware people.)
|8.30.08 @ 1:33PM|#
So, the Howard Phillips who wrote this:
"Homosexuality and perversion have come out of the closet, and,
instead of such corrupt conduct being officially condemned, it is
instead being celebrated morning, noon, and night - on television
screens and in living rooms all over America - pursuant to
broadcast licenses granted by the FCC - with the approval and under
the authority of the U.S. Congress.
advocating that the FCC needs to regulate "homosexual and
perverted" content, is some kind of friend of liberty?
Here's the link on this crank: Speech to
CWA.
Oh, and the same Tom Woods whose book ("The Politically Incorrect
Guide to American History") was criticized by Ron Radosh, Cathy
Young and Max Boot?
Being a confederate apologist is supposed to somehow help?
Throw the bums out. I don't want them near me anymore.
Slightly off-topic, is it time to declare the Barr campaign a
failure in its stated mission to give the LP more
visibility?
So, your very scientific survey leads you to declare Barr's
campaign a failure...two and half months before the vote?
|8.30.08 @ 1:38PM|#
BDB - initially, perhaps, but all it is going to take is a few
anti-conservative remarks to come out of her mouth before the
economic-conservatives and "friends to libertarian" ones walk away
again.
I wish McCain had picked Lieberman. Watching the Republican party
tear itself to shreds would've been a blast.
BDB|8.30.08 @ 1:49PM|#
He wanted Lieberman, but he bended over for his Party and did what they wanted him to do--chose a lightweight who is all image and has a womb.
The Wine Commonsewer|8.30.08 @ 2:03PM|#
It is so cool to have Sara Evans and Jimmy Vaughn on the same
bill with Ron Paul.
In case nobody noticed, Sara Evans is totally hot.
The Wine Commonsewer|8.30.08 @ 2:06PM|#
What about Westboro Baptist?
Dude, that's got dam harsh.
Got a friend in Tn that volunteers with her shotgun to help keep
those bastards away from funerals. She'd take that comment of yours
pretty personal.
BDB|8.30.08 @ 2:08PM|#
TWC-
I didn't mean they would be a part of the Paul convention. I meant
would they be protesting.
TWC (still Shilling for No Sta|8.30.08 @ 2:11PM|#
Just talked to No Star and he is on his way to that biker BBQ
downtown in Moses Lake Wa.
He can actually walk and claims he'll be able to eat a
cheeseburger.
He's got a leg brace to keep his knee straight and help heal the
break but he can get about with a cane.
Click my name if you want to send him a couple bucks to help out
with the bills.
Franklin Harris|8.30.08 @ 2:12PM|#
It is so cool to have Sara Evans and Jimmy Vaughn on the same bill with Ron Paul.
Evans married a former U. of Alabama quarterback. That brands her
forever as mediocre.
TWC|8.30.08 @ 2:13PM|#
BDB, I'm very sorry, my mistake. I just read it wrong.
Let me buy you a drink. :-)
|8.30.08 @ 2:13PM|#
where's the speaking slot for the "biologist" who told Paul
that blacks are incredibly fleet of foot?
Of course we all know that blacks are not any faster than whites.
Watching professional and Olympic sports confirms that they are
equal to a tee in this regard.
BDB|8.30.08 @ 2:15PM|#
It's alright TWC. I just find fringe protesters to be one of the
more fascinating/entertaining spectacles of these political
conventions, since everything inside the hall is scripted.
Obviously, it's not cool when they do it at private funerals.
|8.30.08 @ 2:19PM|#
along comes pinky, right on cue.
did it ever occur to pinky that there are vast reasons why black
athletes dominate certain sports, but don't fare so well in other
ones? Other than some nebulous "it's gotta be that extra muscle"
bullshit?
Thought not.
BDB|8.30.08 @ 2:20PM|#
This is like people who say basketball is a "black" sport, while forgetting that African countries are terrible at basketball while lily-white Argentina, Spain, and Lithuania are some of the best teams in the world.
|8.30.08 @ 2:33PM|#
BDB - I'd say the even bigger error that the racists that latch on to Paul make is thinking that "black" and "white" are somehow significant biological or physiological groups.
Dan|8.30.08 @ 2:40PM|#
This Paul thing is supposedly getting C-Span coverage.
Hopefully that damn hurricane will not distract from the Rally for
the Republic. Should be a great day.
|8.30.08 @ 2:44PM|#
The rally isn't the story here, Paul finally announcing what his long-term plans are (i.e., what the hell the "Campaign for Liberty" will actually do) is the story. That's what I'm waiting to hear.
Rick Barton\'s award winning n|8.30.08 @ 2:51PM|#
Ron Paul not allowed to speak at the GOP convention!? WTF!? With
all the votes he received (twice as many votes as Guiliani, who is
gonna deliver the keynote.....?!)-And the energy and willingness of
Paul's backers to contribute their money to the cause-And Paul was
the most solidly free-market, limit=ed government candidate among
them.
Contact your state GOP headquarters, the national GOP
headquarters, and influential GOP candidates and tell them that
Paul must be slated to speak at the convention.
(Disclosure-I'm a Republican who is active on behalf of certain GOP
candidates running here in Colorado)
Waterhouse|8.30.08 @ 3:04PM|#
What's with the weird Lieberman callout at the front of an otherwise very general statement of why "the situation out country faces is as dangerous as ever"? Is it because he's a
Orange Line Special|8.30.08 @ 3:32PM|#
Go fly a blimp.
As much will come of the RP event as this, and the
solution to both is the same: get a brain and start going negative.
Of course, in the case of libruhtarians they're going to have to
put away the DnD and stop sewing their costumes first.
Rick Barton\'s award winning n|8.30.08 @ 3:44PM|#
Waterhouse,
Of course not. It's cuz Lieberman is a big government liberal and a
hyper-interventionist war hawk who it seems sees no end in the
amount of money and lives that we should sacrifice on behalf of
what he believes is good for the Israeli government-He's a
politician with nary a redeeming quality.
|8.30.08 @ 4:22PM|#
Lieberman is somehow special in this regard? Where does that put Biden? And why not call out McCain for the same reason?
Anti-Globalism|8.30.08 @ 4:34PM|#
They should call Kucinich. He agrees with them more than he disagrees.
JMR|8.30.08 @ 4:41PM|#
Barr's giving Libertarians plenty of "great" publicity. For
example, now folks think it's libertarian to sue a feel-good
preacher for not-inviting you to a private event held on private
property. More power to lawyers! Let's solve all problems by
lawsuit!! Go Barr!!! (sigh...)
JMR
|8.30.08 @ 5:02PM|#
JMR - there's so much to criticize the two parties about, and
you make that kind of stretch?
Please. You would leap at the chance for a Barr Presidency (at
least, I'd hope you would)...so why the need for
self-flagellation?
Rick Barton\'s award winning n|8.30.08 @ 5:10PM|#
The Angry Optimist,
Biden isn't close to being as pro-foreign intervention as Lieberman
is. McCain is certainly assailable on that account.
But to his credit, McCain is far more fiscally conservative when it
comes to the total government spending voted for. Lieberman is
anything but a fiscal conservative.
McCain:
http://www.ntu.org/main/components/ratescongress/details_all_years.php3?senate_id=11
Lieberman:
http://www.ntu.org/main/components/ratescongress/details_all_years.php3?senate_id=21
Rick Barton\'s award winning n|8.30.08 @ 5:15PM|#
Anti-Globalism :
They should call Kucinich. He agrees with them more than he
disagrees.
But a huge difference on economic liberty. That's critical.
JMR|8.30.08 @ 5:16PM|#
It's not a stretch to mock an exceptionally stupid (and campaign
time/money/reputation wasting) lawsuit. It's my typical behavior,
in fact.
And I no more owe Barr my vote than any other politician. Chuck
Baldwin & that new Boston Tea Party party both have NOT funded
stupid lawsuits, and if I'm casting another "the message is: fuck
you" vote this time I might just vote for one of THEIR candidates
instead of Barr, who keeps diluting that message with unlibertarian
behaviors.
JMR
|8.30.08 @ 6:09PM|#
JMR - define "libertarian" for me.
And I would say the odds are resolutely against you being able to
vote for the BTP. They're on like, ten state ballots.
B|8.30.08 @ 6:20PM|#
Lew Rockwell? You gotta be fucking joking me. So now we have a guy, Ron Paul, who wrote extremely bigoted newsletters and the guy who claims he wrote the bigoted newsletters to cover Paul's ass participating in the same event. Are they gonna kick it off with the ceremonial burning of a cross?
B|8.30.08 @ 6:21PM|#
"He wanted Lieberman, but he bended over for his Party and did
what they wanted him to do--chose a lightweight who is all image
and has a womb"
At least she can give birth to children. Obama doesn't even have
that going for him.
|8.30.08 @ 7:05PM|#
I'm a huge Ron Paul supporter, but he has one serious flaw. He
can't tell people to shove off. So he gets surrounded by nuts and
wackos many of whom are deliberately destroying his
reputation.
If it was just Ron Paul speaking (and Jimmy Vaughan playing), I
might just go. But half of these people would have be walking out
in disgust.
voxpo|8.30.08 @ 8:05PM|#
Good Lord. How about we drown them in bile? The last thing we need is more libertarian activism, especially by imperfect people. Pretty deliciously sad.
sftd|8.30.08 @ 8:36PM|#
Oh no, Rockwell is going to be there. He is a neoconfederate, right? Wants to bring back slavery?
Fluffy|8.30.08 @ 8:58PM|#
Yeah, right. Rockwell wants to bring back slavery. Exactly.
That's exactly right.
Rockwell can be a huge asshole, but how fucking stupid are some of
you people?
|8.30.08 @ 10:01PM|#
That's a somewhat wacked out lineup. But then the Ron Paul folk
have always been a bit wacked out. Jesse Ventura? Do we really need
to be giving space to 9/11 Troofers?
I long for a libertarian movement within the Republican party that
is based on reason, rather than crazy conspiracy theories.
It's as if we're trying to peel the lunatic fringe away from the
Democratic party. Good luck with that.
Boudreaux |8.30.08 @ 10:37PM|#
Dems loving a hurricane. Sick bastards.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrBus8ORR78&eurl=http://www.powerlineblog.com/
Dems Love Death|8.30.08 @ 10:41PM|#
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrBus8ORR78&eurl=http://www.powerlineblog.com/
The Bearded Hobbit|8.30.08 @ 10:42PM|#
.. glad to see that Gary Johnson will be there .. what a dream
VP pick he would have been!!
.. Hobbit
TWC-Shilling for NoStar (still|8.30.08 @ 11:29PM|#
Irrespective of all that, Sara Evans is still hot and has a
couple of good tunes.
Jimmy Vaughn is not hot, and has lots of good tunes.
I'm with Fluff, I was a few years younger I'd be on a bus to
Minnesota.
I know this chick in Fla who told me her old man is going. I didn't
ask her why she wasn't.
It's a good weekend.
Rick Barton\'s award winning n|8.30.08 @ 11:50PM|#
B
So now we have a guy, Ron Paul, who wrote extremely bigoted
newsletters and the guy who claims he wrote the bigoted newsletters
to cover Paul's ass. .
It's already been established that Ron Paul didn't write the
questionable passages. If Lew Rockwell did write them, shame on him
(BTW, I know for sure that Rockwell has seemed to make pretext for
police brutality in a previous writing), but it doesn't follow that
all his subsequent writings should be discounted-far from it. Much
of his analysis is cogent.
Jim Treacher|8.31.08 @ 2:10AM|#
It's already been established asserted that Ron
Paul didn't write the questionable passages.
Fixed that for you.
j|8.31.08 @ 5:13AM|#
Where's my girl Karen Kwiatkowski?
Where's Bacevich?
Where's dat li'l ho Pat Buchanan?
Where's batshit Paul Craig Roberts?
etc., etc.,
If we want to oppose the War from the Right, we got to, you know,
get on the donkey (as the song says)
Cosmoterian|8.31.08 @ 7:23AM|#
What a hefty group of assholes in that list. I know my week
wouldn't be complete without some douchebag saying "Two Planes
don't bring down three buildings!"
I'm 21, so I'm at the age a lot of you older folks seemed you'd
have to be to go, but I'll give you the main reasons why I'm
not.
1. Sausage fest.
2. Near the RNC sausage fest (except for the GOP VP
pick...hot.)
3. I don't get drunk off of other drunk people yelling about steel
frame buildings.
4. I'm in an interracial relationship. OH NOES!
5. They'll be checking my weight against a duck when I don't drink
from their punch bowl.
6. I can easily simulate the event at my local Ron Paul meetup
group by yelling "CFR! Bilderberg! Federal Reserve!"
I would have totally been for Ron this election if he had thrown
Rockwell under the bus for writing that stuff on par with Coulter
saying women shouldn't vote because their vote swings democrat. If
he doesn't endorse somebody I'll be pissed. All that energy from
his campaign will be severely diminish if no one takes the banner
on the national stage.
|8.31.08 @ 10:28AM|#
This is like people who say basketball is a "black" sport,
while forgetting that African countries are terrible at basketball
while lily-white Argentina, Spain, and Lithuania are some of the
best teams in the world.
For years, basketball was a predominately Jewish sport. Think of
Red Aurbach coming straight outta Brooklyn. I've seen references to
articles people wrote explaining the biological traits that made
"the Hebrew race" better basketball players.
Rick Barton\'s award winning n|8.31.08 @ 11:54AM|#
Jim Treacher:
Fixed that for you.
You appear to be months behind the information curve.
Rick Barton\'s award winning n|8.31.08 @ 12:11PM|#
Cosmoterian:
What a hefty group of assholes in that list.
To the contrary-Although I'm not familiar with a few of them,
they're mostly scholars and honest enquirers after the truth-As are
most certainly, Karen Kwiatkowski, Bacevich, Pat Buchanan, and Paul
Craig Roberts.
just another \"racist\"|8.31.08 @ 1:32PM|#
BDB - I'd say the even bigger error that the racists that latch on to Paul make is thinking that "black" and "white" are somehow significant biological or physiological groups.
A good forensic pathologist (coroner) can tell from a skeleton
whether someone was a negro or a caucasian...or a mongol. Seems
pretty "physiologically significant" to me.
|8.31.08 @ 2:32PM|#
Give me a break, people. I'm sorry I wandered over here. I was captured by the tagline... Reason: Free minds and free markets? Judging by the comments of readers on here I think they should change the name of this publication to better fit the audience. How about: Irrationalism: Loyalist Jingoist Fascists and Mercantalism? Or maybe: Unreason: Closed Minds and World Socialism? Or even: Give me a Reason: Brainwashed Corporate Media Kool-Aid Drinkers and Corporatist Cartel Monopolies. Go ahead and wrap yourselves right in that flag after you're done wiping your asses with it.
|8.31.08 @ 4:16PM|#
It's whatever. This thing will probably be a blast, as in, you can get high as fuck and listen to a bunch of awesome shit. Most likely kick it with some really cool people. If I lived within a state away there's no question about being there.
|8.31.08 @ 4:16PM|#
A good forensic pathologist (coroner) can tell from a
skeleton whether someone was a negro or a caucasian...or a
mongol
Show me a forensic anthropologist who uses this extremely outdated
classification system and I'll show you a crank.
The fact that you just used the old "three races" classification
system screams ignorance and stupidity.
BakedPenguin|8.31.08 @ 4:51PM|#
TAO - What do you mean? I have it on good authority that the former pathologist for the state of Mississippi used that exact system!
just another |8.31.08 @ 6:21PM|#
A good forensic pathologist (coroner) can tell from a skeleton whether someone was a negro or a caucasian...or a mongol
Show me a forensic anthropologist who uses this extremely
outdated classification system and I'll show you a crank.
The fact that you just used the old "three races" classification
system screams ignorance and stupidity.
The only screaming that's going on around here is your hysterical
name-calling. If you can calm your emotions for a moment, your
reading comprehension might improve enough that you will notice I
said pathologist and not anthropologist. If you don't know
the difference, I suggest that possibly it is you, yourself who is
"ignorant."
Furthermore, the fact that a classification system is an older one
does not necessarily mean that it is an invalid one - it is more
likely one that is not sufficient to a particular purpose.
|8.31.08 @ 6:43PM|#
he's hypershrill, blindingly obsessed with RP. he should just go to the convention, smoke a monster spliff, and enjoy himself for once in his life.
|8.31.08 @ 6:44PM|#
uh, I know the difference, idiot. I was correcting your
improper use of terms.
I'm no more in the mood to argue science with someone as
intellectually deficient as yourself than I would be to wrestle
with a pig.
Jim Treacher|8.31.08 @ 7:15PM|#
You appear to be months behind the information
curve desperate attempts to salvage an already futile
campaign.
Fixed that for you again.
Rick Barton\'s award winning n|8.31.08 @ 11:22PM|#
Jim Treacher,
That one didn't quite work cuz it wouldn't be me saying that but
that's ok. Anyway, it's the evidence that matters here and that
evidence solidly indicates Dr Paul didn't write the questionable
passages.
Here, enloy this fine vid from the Thompson Twins that I picked out
spesh for you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZU2yzp3xnk
Jim Treacher|9.1.08 @ 1:27AM|#
Anyway, it's the evidence that matters here and that
evidence solidly indicates Dr Paul didn't write the
questionable passages.
cosmoterian|9.1.08 @ 2:20AM|#
Oh no! Someone called me a fascist! How did they know that's my only weakness! I'm melllllltiiiiiiing.
|9.1.08 @ 2:24AM|#
For me the question would be, are the Ron Paul "nut cases" worse
than the regular Republicans who advocate.. hmm.. warfare in
foreign countries?
Sorry, at least, the Paulistans are relatively peaceful and don't
tend to start violence all over the place... In this, their body
count is probably lower than McCains...
Junter Klops|9.1.08 @ 3:40AM|#
A good forensic pathologist (coroner) can tell from a
skeleton whether someone was a negro or a caucasian...or a
mongol
This is actually true. They can take a DNA sample.
Even without the DNA, there are plenty of clues a skeleton can have
about the identity of its owner. There could be evidence that the
person was stunted, had an expensive surgery, etc... Because
certain "races" tend to have different access to healthcare and
food, you can make a guess. Like a stunted skeleton would be more
likely to come from a black person than a white one.
The chemical composition of the skeleton might also give clues as
to where the person lived. I know that some scientists found a way
to tell where someone is from by looking at their hair. It had
something to do with the differences in the drinking water across
regions. And of course, race strongly correlates with
location.
So am I now a TAO-certified intellectually deficient racist?
Also, I'm not Just Another Racist.
Rick Barton\'s award winning n|9.1.08 @ 3:47AM|#
Jim Treacher,
Nice one! You deserve to enloy this-just cuz she's so cute and it's
a nice tune as well...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rz1RiIp-9mU
Jim Treacher|9.1.08 @ 4:01AM|#
Jim Treacher, on
Nicee! You deserve to enloy
this-just cuz she's so cute
and it's a nice tune
as well...
Nemo|9.1.08 @ 4:14AM|#
Rob, that was almost as funny as [T]reason magazine.
Which reminds me. The Rockwellians LOVE to call it treason, and yet
they claim to hate the state. Treason is treated as a crime of
betrayal to the state however. Whoops, I guess being anti-state
only applies if you are a part of the cult of personality.
There is no god but Paul, and Rockwell is his prophet.
just another |9.1.08 @ 5:09AM|#
uh, I know the difference, idiot. I was correcting your improper use of terms.
I'm no more in the mood to argue science with someone as intellectually deficient as yourself than I would be to wrestle with a pig.
Uh, apparently you don't know. A forensic pathologist is someone
who deals with human
remains to identify the cause of death and to determine that they
are in fact human.
Naturally he is also called upon to determine what sort of
human the remains
are from. Yes, there is such a discipline as forensic
"anthropology" and yes, that,
too, deals with the study of skeletal remains, although that field
is more properly known as forensic osteology, I believe. The term
anthropologist is more often used to refer to the broader field of
anthropology, which largely is one of the social sciences.
But rather than quibble over terminology, why don't you address the
point that I made above? Namely that there is enough
"biological" or "physiological"
difference among the "races" (your word) to determine from morbid
remains (skeletal) to which race an individual belonged. Contrary
to what you aver, I'd say that constitutes "significance."
But of course, you'd rather not address the issue, because you
aren't "in the mood."
You'd much rather make general statements and hope like hell that
no one calls you
on them. Or if someone does, you just hurl a few insults and hope
no one notices
that you skinned out of it all. Yet you call me intellectually
deficient? Well I guess I wouldn't want to argue science
either,
if I couldn't offer anything more substantive than personal
attacks. Hope you are
better at wrestling pigs.
BTW, the word "idiot" by which you addressed me? I believe that's a
term from one
of those "outdated classification systems" you mentioned -
psychologists no longer use that word.
I don't think your intellectual dishonesty, personal dishonor, and
general disrespect
merit any further response from me - except maybe just to simply
say "fuck you."
just another racist|9.1.08 @ 5:30AM|#
Junter Klops,
Nice, cogent response, dude - though you may have wasted your
time.
Also, I'm not Just Another Racist.
In my use of that "handle" I was using the term racist
ironicly. I'm no more a racist than anyone else around here.
|9.1.08 @ 10:51AM|#
Just another...Junter actually smacked down your outdated tripe
with a real answer.
and "fuck you" too...I'm not the racist classifying people as
Negroid, Mongoloid and Caucasiod. Go dog-whistle that shit
elsewhere.
|9.1.08 @ 11:00AM|#
although that field is more properly known as forensic
osteology, I believe.
given google a workout, are ya kid? Or am I to believe that you
just "read that somewhere" and knew it? Was the little aside of ",I
believe" supposed to make that little spectacle more
believable?
|9.1.08 @ 3:40PM|#
did it ever occur to pinky that there are vast reasons why
black athletes dominate certain sports, but don't fare so well in
other ones?
Yes, it did. Black athletes tend to dominate in sports - and in
positions within those sports - which require speed and jumping
ability. I know it's considered unspeakably racist to say this, but
it's pretty obvious to anyone with common sense. Why are there no
white cornerbacks in the NFL but many white linemen? Because whites
don't generally possess the speed of blacks but they do okay on
bulkiness. Why are almost all running backs black?
Why do whites still dominate the quarterback position - while
almost all black quarterbacks are, gulp, running quarterbacks?
|9.2.08 @ 2:13AM|#
I see that Ron Paul may have another "ghostwriter issue" according to todays Washington post that claims Tom Woods wrote his best seller.
dead thread Fred|9.2.08 @ 3:27AM|#
Hm. This thread brings to mind something that Robert Simmons once wrote: "Ridicule is the first and last argument of fools." Seems especially fitting here. ;-)
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