Radley Balko | June 17, 2008
A federal judge gives the White House cover in hiding how it lost millions of emails:
A federal judge ruled Monday that a White House office that has records about millions of possibly missing e-mails does not have to make them public.
U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly says the Office of Administration is not subject to the Freedom of Information Act, enabling the White House to maintain the secrecy of a lengthy internal paper trail about its problem-plagued e-mail system.
The decision came in a lawsuit filed against the administration by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, a private group that has been trying to find out the extent of the White House's e- mail problems for more than a year.
The functions of the Office of Administration "are strictly administrative," Kollar-Kotelly ruled.
Kollar-Kotelly said the Office of Administration has no authority over others in the executive branch and that the office is exclusively dedicated to providing services to the Executive Office of the President. Since its creation in 1978, the Office of Administration has responded to FOIA requests. But the Bush White House reversed that policy in August 2007 in the lawsuit filed by CREW.
Just so we're clear, here: The purpose of FOIA is to make the federal government more accountable and transparent. For 30 years, the Office of Administration has been subject to FOIA. But once they discovered that the Office of Administration may have paperwork showing how or why the Bush administration was able to dispose of millions of possibly incriminating emails, the White House conveniently decided the office was no longer subject to FOIA.
And a federal judge has now agreed, ruling that because the office is "strictly administrative" in function it can ignore FOIA requests, even if it has information that could show wrongdoing on the part of officials in the executive.
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Is anyone really surprised at this point?
The judiciary has become but a puppet.
There's not really much point in gathering more evidence of this
administration's corruption and incompetence. There's already
enough publicly known to have Bush and Cheney impeached and removed
with extreme prejudice.
What's lacking isn't information, but will, both on the part of
pusilanimous Dem leadership and GOP "dead-enders" who no evidence
could convince.
Just to make it a little more clear, this applies to the Office
of Administration no matter who the Executive is and should have
applied the whole time.
Administrators in years past, who released information due to FOIA
requests may have been advising their elected and appointed
officials incorrectly if they indicated that they must
comply.
That said, it is highly unlikely that any past Administration
Office will be heald accountable for their errors.
The judiciary has become but a puppet.
Yea, we saw that with the Habeas Corpus ruling on Guantanimo Bay,
right?
Just so we're clear, here: The purpose of FOIA is to make
the federal government more accountable and transparent. For 30
years, the Office of Administration has been subject to
FOIA.
The purpose and the actual text of the law may not be the same
thing. If the text restricts the scope of the law such that it does
not apply to administrative agencies, then the ruling is correct,
even if we would like the text to apply to this agency.
As for the argument that they'd done it for 30 years, so they
should keep on doing it, that doesn't follow. It's possible that
they were doing more than was required by law.
For example, if I refrain from making a right turn on red for the
first 30 years of my driving career, and then decide I'm going to
start turning right on red, a cop can't pull me over and write me a
ticket because I changed my policy.
avocado diaboli,
Very good points.
The Executive is free to remove all classifications and release any
information that they like. FOIA only tells the Executive that they
must release certain information, whether they like it or not. They
can always release more.
Of course the dont, the Federal Judge is in someones back
pocket, bought and paid for. Everything nicely swept under the rug
and the American shheple hand fed a line of BS. ANother day in
Bushes Regime.
JT
http://www.FireMe.To/udi
From the definitions section and excerpt from the U.S.
Code.
"(1) "agency" means each authority of the Government of the United
States, whether or not it is within or subject to review by another
agency, but does not include-
(A) the Congress;
(B) the courts of the United States;
(C) the governments of the territories or possessions of the United
States;
(D) the government of the District of Columbia;"
"(3)
(A) Except with respect to the records made available under
paragraphs (1) and (2) of this subsection, and except as provided
in subparagraph (E), each agency, upon any request for records
which
(i) reasonably describes such records and
(ii) is made in accordance with published rules stating the time,
place, fees (if any), and procedures to be followed, shall make the
records promptly available to any person."
Discuss.
appending_doom,
Seems the court was using the odds and ends that you left out from
your post.
Need more information, but will be glad to look it up myself
later.
Guy,
The Habeas Corpus ruling is really pointless. As the tyrant's best
friend Scalia pointed out it just means we'll never know about any
future "prisoners". It just "sounds good" but the effect will do
nothing for liberty or justice.
Another reason to vote for a Democrat this year.* Hey Mr
Straight Talk, what's your take on this?
* I despise a whole lot most of the Democratic party
platform. I despise Chavez/Putin style governance even more.
As the tyrant's best friend Scalia pointed out it just means
we'll never know about any future "prisoners". It just "sounds
good" but the effect will do nothing for liberty or
justice.
I think that's certainly a likely outcome, but it may have more to
do with the nature of warfare against illegal combatants than with
the overweening eevil of the Bushbots and the homicidal psychopaths
in the military.
Guy,
What few informative accounts I've read this morning do suggest the
decision hinged on whether the OA is an "agency" as defined in the
act. As
ars technica points out, for example, White House house-keepers
are not subject to FOIA. The argument was that OA just provided
clerical services but did not make any sort of policy, hence it is
closer to house-keeping than, say, to the DEA.
Anon
So yeah, like I said it was just PR.
Net real world effect = zero (or worse).
Court's opinion is here:
https://ecf.dcd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?2007cv0964-54
Big money stuff comes at page 17 and from thereon.
Seems like a straight-foward application of law and not more
evidence that federal judges are allowing Bush to destroy
civilization as we know it.
As for the OA complying with FOIA for 30 years, they had a history
of telling requesters that they complied out of discretion and not
because they were required to do so.
Another reason to vote for a Democrat this year.*
Yes,because FBI files really belong in the First ladie's
office.
Anon,
Good point. Did not notice that angle from the information
given.
This is a victory for democracy, and for the people. It shows that the Ministry for Administrative Affairs is doing the work of the people, and that those who do wrongdoing must be held accountable. However, those who do the legitimate day-to-day business of making this a better place for the ordinary people of this great country.
avocado diaboli-
I also agree, good points.
But, the case for them continuing a policy that has been in effect
for 30 years is:
1) Why wait until 2007 to all of a sudden change policy? If this
was some core principle, shouldn't they have held to this since the
beggining?
2) Yes, the law says they don't have to do it. But this is
obviously a decision to reduce transparency. There is no excusing
this decision on a political level; they have made a conscious
choice toward obscurity.
"They have made a conscious choice toward obscurity."
LOL.
Where you been the last seven years Mr. Webster? It's more than
obscurity, it's deliberate obfuscation of the truth and it's been
the SOP of the current executive the whole time.
Still not as bad as the claim that the VP isn't in the Executive
Branch and so isn't subject to Executive Branch rules.
Can we just toss these fuckers onto a plane and ship them to the
Hague already? Or Nuremberg? Or, well, just about any damn court at
all? I want some orange jumpsuits for these thugs.
R C-
Just so we're clear: Anybody handed over to the US by an Afghan
mercenary with tribal grudges is presumed to be an "illegal
combatant," but officials who lie their asses off to invade a
country that posed no threat are perfectly lawful?
Remember when discussing this case with Guy Montag that the
actual legal details of the matter are irrelevant to him.
All that really matters to Guy is that the Bush administration be
protected from any evidence of criminal wrongdoing on their part
being released. That's it.
Nothing matters to Guy outside of having the delicious taste of W's
cock down his throat as much as possible. This is because Guy is a
fucking cunt.
You lost me there, thoreau.
As far as my original comment goes, only in a war against illegal
combatants would we have any interest in somebody handed over by
some Afghan "mercenary" with tribal grudges.
What the habeas corpus case has to do with US officials lying us
into war, I couldn't say. Although, on that point, you have heard
of the Rockefeller report, right? The one that says the
administration's case for war was largely supported by
intelligence?
As usual, every time I bother to read a Fluffy post it is full
of his emotional bias and ignores the written word.
Back to the usual method.
Can we just toss these fuckers onto a plane and ship them to
the Hague already? Or Nuremberg? Or, well, just about any damn
court at all? I want some orange jumpsuits for these
thugs.
I hope Guantanamo gets cleared out when the next administration
takes office, but I want it kept open for the sake of two new
prisoners.
You have two guesses.
But, it seems that the judge's decision is the correct one. The
law would seem to exclude bodies that have no authority.
And as I hinted before, it won't matter anyway. Short of Bush or
Cheney getting caught holding a pistol with the body of a
handcuffed US citizen with a gunshot wound to the head in front of
him, nothing's going to happen to those guys.
But, it seems that the judge's decision is the correct
one.
Only if you care about what the law actually says.
If all mentation stops with the utterance "BUSH BAD!", you're
likely to get a different result.
I hope Guantanamo gets cleared out when the next administration
takes office, but I want it kept open for the sake of two new
prisoners.
Criminalizing policy differences in excellent way to wreck what's
left of our civil and political culture.
Again, I encourage anyone who wants to argue "Bush lied" to read
the Rockefeller report. You could key-word search for the phrase
"substantiated by intelligence", but you'd still be there all
day.
Did the intelligence suck? You know it did. Did Bush lie about it?
Not much, no. Would you have made different
decisions, with the same information in hand that Bush had? Maybe.
But that's a policy difference, and is not, and should not be, a
crime.
Look, God knows Bush has given us plenty to bitch about, on
domestic and foreign policy. I just think our bitching will
generally have more credibility if it isn't contradicted by reports
from his sworn political enemies.
"As far as my original comment goes, only in a war against
illegal combatants would we have any interest in somebody handed
over by some Afghan "mercenary" with tribal grudges."
How about people picked up in Bosnia, far away from Iraq or
Afghanistan?
OK, I am unclear on a few points:
1) Since when does the White House perform no "true" functions and
only act as an administrative branch? Isn't the White House part of
the "Executive Branch", as in "execute", as in "to perform or do"
or (in our current case) "to murder; assassinate"? There is no
portion of our gov't which allows for more power for a small group
of people to perform more actions than in the White House. How is
this JUST an administrative branch??!?
2) Why is no one recognizing the "strange coincidence" that the
information requested via FOIA EXACTLY matches with the times the
white house was accused of lying about Iraq details and the Valerie
Plame issue. Come on!! When Enron pulled evil shit a decade ago,
the laws CHANGED to ensure that no further evil could be performed.
Then they were still accused based upon INTENT. When all the music
labels complained about internet theft, Kazaa et al. were shut down
& laws were CHANGED to address new circumstances. Yet here,
even if the lie regarding "administrative office" holds, they are
clearly hiding lies UPON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!! Come on!! Where are
all the "president cannot commit perjury" folks who were ready to
kick Clinton out of office!! His lies, at worst, messed up a few
emotions of a few folks. These lies had us attack an entire
COUNTRY!! WTF!!! What the FOIA explicitly states is, to some
degree, moot; its intentions were clear: to prevent the government
from hiding information from and abusing the people whom it
represents. Lying about evidence to start a war & send our kids
out to die (and kill myriads of others)... that is as severe an
abuse of my trust as it can get!
mike,
The argument is that not the entire Executive Branch, but just the
Office of Administration, is not properly an authority and thus not
an "agency" for the purposes of FOIA. If this is so, they don't
have to release the documents by FOIA.
As for this administration lying and covering up and getting away
with it, that's old news. No one who can do anything about it is
willing to. The Dems don't want to jeopardize the all-but-certain
Dem landslide in November by doing anything to energize the utterly
demoralized GOP base.
It's interesting to note, especially to the Gingrich-era GOP
bashers out there, that the House Republicans (such as Bob Barr)
proceeded with the impeachment of Clinton despite the fact it was
unpopular at the time, and even after they lost seats in the 1998
elections. Now you can dispute whether those were impeachable
offenses, but you can't claim they were acting out of craven
political concerns.
You can't say the same for Pelosi and Reid, who've been sitting on
a mountain of evidence far more damning than that against Clinton,
but fail to possess the courage and, dare I say, patriotism of the
pre-Bush Republicans.
RC Dean,
"The intelligence" was hardly unanimous in the run-up to war. The
UN inspectors, Hans Blix, and Mohammed el-Bardei all disputed such
assertions.
And before you launch into ad hominems against the UN, you may wish
to pause to consider the fact that THEY WERE RIGHT. As much as it
pains me to say it, I wish we had listened to the UN, France,
Germany, and Russia on this topic back in 2002. And if you don't
wish that too, well, I don't know what's wrong with you.
Chris-
The latest theory I've heard is that some of the cooked
intelligence was coming from people with ties to Iran's
intelligence service.
I guess it makes a certain amount of sense. Look at their current
situation:
-Hostile dictator that they fought a long war against: Gone.
-Sympathetic elements of neighboring population: Now in
power.
-Hostile superpower: Too bogged down to do a damn thing. Surrounded
by militias and guerrillas sympathetic to Iran.
I don't know if Iranian intelligence officers actually had anything
to do with it, but if I were an Iranian intelligence officer I'd at
least forge some documents claiming credit for it and show those at
my next annual performance review. "What do you mean
'unproductive'? Look at the shit that I tricked Uncle Sam into
doing!"
thoreau,
That seems a bit too conspiracy theory-ish to me. Such a plan could
have backfired easily. Though it was clear beforehand, for those
who were willing to see, that us invading Iraq would help Iran out
in the long run (that too, RC).
And when you add in the administration's completely getting played
by Ahmed Chalabi, it does make one wonder.
Chris,
I don't think that it was done entirely at the behest of Iran, but
it wouldn't shock me if, upon realizing that this was likely to
happen, Iran had some people go and start putting out feelers to
try to monitor the situation, while also feeding some
misinformation here and there to try to influence events.
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