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Colbert Campaign: Watch Out, Ron Paul
Joshua Green at the Atlantic takes seriously Stephen Colbert's announced joke run for president in both major party primaries in South Carolina, and finds that Ron Paul
should be sweating....Paul’s supporters are among the most passionate and committed this cycle. But their profile is similar to that of the voters Colbert might attract. (“Pot smokers,” a Republican consultant called them.) Anonymous presidential advisor: “If Colbert wants to do it he’s got to convert every young, semi-liberal Ron Paul supporter to the Colbert cause. If a young white male is going to vote, watches Comedy Central, and is internet savvy, chances are he’s a Ron Paul supporter.”
That's a great insight into what mainstream GOP consultants think of the Paul phenomenon, by the way.
GinSlinger|10.24.07 @ 1:05PM|#
No worries, Colbert might have to report to
federal-pound-me-in-the-ass prison.
http://www.viceland.com/int/dos.php?country=us
|10.24.07 @ 1:19PM|#
does anyone else find this whole colbert for president thing to be remarkably stupid?
|10.24.07 @ 1:20PM|#
I can see Colbert catching legal trouble by some prosecutors with no sense of irony and an enviable ability to rationalize being a horrible knee-jerk prick.
Hello|10.24.07 @ 1:30PM|#
If a young white male is going to vote, watches Comedy Central,
and is internet savvy, chances are he's a Ron Paul
supporter."
Well,
I am a young white male that is going to vote, loves comedy
central, and I am a computer science major.
I think that a lot of the things Ron Paul supports are absolutely
insane and would never even consider voting for the guy.
Minion of URKOBOLD|10.24.07 @ 1:39PM|#
AND EDWARD IS UNINTENTIONALLY A FANTABULOUS LOOKER.
WHO KNEW THAT TIGHTY WHITEYS ON THE OUTSIDE OF HIS DUNGAREES WOULD
EMPHASIZE THE SPACE WHERE HIS PACKAGE IS SUPPOSED TO BE!
Episiarch|10.24.07 @ 1:40PM|#
Solution:
Edward/Paul cage match.
That rage has to be good for something, right
EDWAARRDDDDDDOOOO?
But Paul would have to be worried that you would say you wouldn't
show, but then you would, folding chair in hand.
thoreau|10.24.07 @ 1:42PM|#
Edward is here. Where's DONDEROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO???
|10.24.07 @ 1:42PM|#
A conspiracy theorist might theorize that someone at Viacom is very afraid of not only a Paul presidency, but the very message he brings. Colbert will no doubt get votes, diminishing Paul's overall returns. With fewer votes his message of freedom is much easier to ignore.
|10.24.07 @ 1:44PM|#
Speaking of folks who might have a bit of a skid mark about Paul, here's a prime example.
Edward|10.24.07 @ 1:46PM|#
Yeah, go ahead and pile on when you know damn well I'm
right.
I'm through with you fucking moonbats. This is my last post here.
Delete me, I don't give a shit.
And fuck you, Urkobolds. Keep fucking with me and I'll crash your
pathetic little website.
Max|10.24.07 @ 1:47PM|#
Uhhh...isn't Colbert breaking some FEC laws or something?
My intuition is that this Colbert stunt is going to actually help
the likes of Ron Paul and hurt neocons.
Colbert is a political ninja -- which "side" is he on?
fyodor|10.24.07 @ 1:51PM|#
If all the pot smokers voted for the same candidate, he'd probably win that primary.
|10.24.07 @ 1:52PM|#
Yeah, Colbert is breaking appearance rules because of his
show.
Thompson is breaking the same rules because of reruns of Law and
Order on USA
thoreau|10.24.07 @ 1:58PM|#
fyodor-
Dude, they'd like, totally, you know, space out and forget to show
up and vote.
|10.24.07 @ 1:58PM|#
Keep fucking with me and I'll crash your pathetic little website.
It always makes me laugh when Edward refers to something as
"pathetic." Funny stuff!
Matt Tievsky|10.24.07 @ 2:01PM|#
Edward's a bot isn't he? He keeps saying the same thing over and
over again.
Except for that threat to crash a web site. I guess the bot's gone
rampant.
|10.24.07 @ 2:01PM|#
Not sure if that was the real Edward or not, but it would be
hilarious watching him try to crash Blogger.
And Hello, way to rip the first two words from a sentence to almost
completely change its meaning.
|10.24.07 @ 2:04PM|#
I don't think this necesarily hurts Ron Paul. Oh, I'm sure it
might deny Ron Paul some number of votes, perhaps a even a
significant number. However, looking at things realistically, it
does not hurt Ron Paul's message on iota.
Ron Paul's theses is that "Freedom is best for the country" and
"freedom is popular". He is an economics wonk: his whole reason for
entering politics was concern over Nixon's love of price controls
and abandonment of the gold standard, and the lack of organized
political opposition to these ideas. He has clearly and repeatedly
stated that if some other Republican was to adopt his policies,
that Ron Paul would support that guy's candidacy. Whil I believe he
is making a dtermined effort to win the presidency, he is also
trying to influence others to adopt his policies by offering a
block of voters as a prize. Thus, in the likely even that he does
not get the nomination, he could still change government policy by
encouraging the guy who won the nomination to woo his supporters by
adopting his policies.
So he propounds his policy ideas and attracts a following. Most of
his followers agree with o0ne aspect of the package of policies he
proposes. Many of them feel that he is the only acceptable
candidate because they disagree so strongly wiht the others.
The only people who are going to vote for Colbert come from this
disaffected pool.
Every vote that Ron Paul and Colbert earn will be seen as evidence
of a set of voters who are up for grabs by 'electable' candidates.
If the combined protest vote is large enough some group of anointed
politicians will attempt to acquire them as supporters.
Thus, while Colbert can hurt Paul's chances of winning the
nomination (which are pretty remote to begin with), they are not
injurious to Paul's cause, which is to raise the profile of limited
government.
Minion of URKOBOLD|10.24.07 @ 2:12PM|#
EDDIE IS JUST A LITTLE MAD, BECAUSE THE WEIBSKOBOLD CRASHED HIS BRISS.
dhex|10.24.07 @ 2:12PM|#
If a young white male is going to vote, watches Comedy
Central, and is internet savvy, chances are he's a Ron Paul
supporter."
uh that describes everyone in new york that i know, and very few of
them are ron paul supporters.
|10.24.07 @ 2:12PM|#
If all the pot smokers voted for the same candidate, he'd
probably win that primary.
If all the pot smokers... in VERMONT.. voted for the same
candidate, he'd probably win the primary
I'm not so sure about South Carolina
|10.24.07 @ 2:15PM|#
Lawd, I've only been reading/posting here a month or two, and
I've seen Edward rip up his membership three times already.
It's like Memento.
Edward, you need to tattoo, "Don't post at Hit and Run", backwards
on your chest, along with "Fear URKOBOLD!" You might see it more if
you had it inked on your taint, but that spot may be seriously
withered by the time you are done here, if my intuition is
correct...
Handmaiden of WEIBSKOBOLD|10.24.07 @ 2:16PM|#
YES. EDDIE'S BRISS WAS MORE OF A TWEEZER CEREMONY. THERE WASN'T ENOUGH OF HIS TROUSER SAUSAGE TURTLENECK TO MAKE A DECENT PINKY RING.
|10.24.07 @ 2:18PM|#
See also:
How Ron Paul Could Win the Presidency - Lew Rockwell
http://www.digg.com/2008_us_elections/How_Ron_Paul_Could_Win_the_Presidency
What if the Ron Paul Fans Became SEO Savvy?
http://www.digg.com/2008_us_elections/What_if_the_Ron_Paul_Fans_Became_SEO_Savvy_2
39 Ron Paul Videos With Over 100,000 Views Apiece!
http://www.digg.com/2008_us_elections/39_Ron_Paul_Videos_With_Over_100_000_Views_Apiece
The Feds|10.24.07 @ 2:21PM|#
Denial of service attacks are a crime. The punishment? Ten year, hard taint-withering.
VM|10.24.07 @ 2:23PM|#
don't forget the mandatory lessons of pleasuring the
WEIBSKOBOLD's moon bat. EDDIE will be particularly interested in
that.
*bats eyes at EDDIE.
URKOBOLD\'s personal trainer|10.24.07 @ 2:31PM|#
EDWARD IS A WHITE BELT (HIGHEST CLASSIFICATION) IN
DONDER-KWAN-DOOOOO!
AND HE IS OFFENDED BY THE OFFENSE TAKEN BY OFFENSE.
HIS SEETHING RAGE IS SIMILAR TO DUNCAN'S AS HE HAS TO GO OUT AND...
AND... AND... MACRAME!
or something.
|10.24.07 @ 2:32PM|#
Uhhh...isn't Colbert breaking some FEC laws or
something?
Not if he isn't an actual candidate, because he hasn't filed any
papers. You don't become a presidential candidate because you
announce you're going to run on a comedy show, and pretend to fill
out the papers, and say you are going to mail them in ... and then
don't. Hint: do you really think someone is allowed to run on both
the Democratic and Republican tickets in the same election?
A fake newscaster who pretends to be a conservative pundit
pretending to run for office so he can make jokes about it ...
naah, that couldn't be. He HAS to be running. He SAID he
would.
Did someone's irony detector get accidentally turned off, or
what?
|10.24.07 @ 2:35PM|#
If all the pot smokers... in VERMONT.. voted for the same
candidate, he'd probably win the primary
I'm not so sure about South Carolina
Ummm ... what do you think is growing in the hidden understory of
some of those tobacco fields in South Carolina?
Minion of URKOBOLD|10.24.07 @ 2:38PM|#
OKAY.
*USES FEATHER TO TICKLE THAT "SPECIAL SPOT" THAT EDDIE LIKES OH SO
WELL*
GinSlinger|10.24.07 @ 2:40PM|#
Actually, prolefeed, according to the article I posteed in the first post on this thread, announcing his canidacy + raising $5000 = canidate according to the FEC. Also, the problem is not the TV appearances per se, but the fact that technically Comedy Central is sponsoring his bid, and the fact that Colbert acts as producer for the show. (Not to mention the fact that Comedy Central, for a short time, actually hosted his presidential bid website.)
|10.24.07 @ 2:43PM|#
OOOH! I'm starting to want the Edward Treatment! It looks like fun so far! Tickling, flattery, what else could a guy ask for?
T|10.24.07 @ 2:44PM|#
prolefeed,
Nothing! Nothing at all! Seriously! It works better in corn
fields.
Or so I hear. I was always more on the retail end than the
production end of that business.
|10.24.07 @ 2:46PM|#
Speaking of Colbert...Conservative T-shirt Girl is BAAACK!! I hadn't seen her all week and thought she was gone for good...
Edward|10.24.07 @ 2:52PM|#
Hey Urkobolds, how about keeping your schtick confined to your own unfunny, racist website and keep it off of here. Thank you.
|10.24.07 @ 2:56PM|#
..unfunny, racist website..
Is Edward referring to the Award-winning Monkey Tuesday's? Or the
very deserving but still un-lauded Sulu Fridays?
|10.24.07 @ 2:56PM|#
POT smokers?
Ohnoes!
Reasonoids, the Republican Committee for the Defense of Tighter
Asses doesn't think you and your good-time-charlie antics are
funny. At all.
Minion of URKOBOLD|10.24.07 @ 3:00PM|#
SCHTICK.
WOW THAT'S IMPRESSIVE. HIER I THOUGHT WE HAD BANTER, MAYBE
REPARTEE, EVEN. BUT ACTUAL SCHTICK? DAMN. WE'RE GOOD.
NOW, DID YOU KNOW THAT THE HERBAL TAINT-GROWTH PRODUCT YOU
PURCHASED REALLY DOESN'T WORK?
|10.24.07 @ 3:06PM|#
And that's why he's the Ur-troll, the Uber-troll, the Troll of
Trolls.
Eddie, he is your God, and you are a worm before him. You parachute
into these threads hoping to troll, and end up getting trolled
right out of your dignity.
pwned.
I stand in awe of the Urkobold.
|10.24.07 @ 3:06PM|#
The Facebook group "1,000,000 Strong For Stephen T Colbert" currently has 723,834 members. The group got more members in five days than Barack Obama's 1,000,000 strong group (of which Giuliani's daughter Caroline used to be a member) got in nine months. In six days the group got more members than the group "Stop Hillary Clinton: (One Million Strong AGAINST Hillary)" got in eight months.
|10.24.07 @ 3:07PM|#
do you really think someone is allowed to run on both the Democratic and Republican tickets in the same election?
Apparently, in South Carolina it is. At least that's what Colbert
said in an interview i heard.
So, I guess you have to take that for what it is worth. :)
Syloson of Samos|10.24.07 @ 3:09PM|#
I might actually have a reason to vote in 2008 if Colbert sticks around.
Edward|10.24.07 @ 3:09PM|#
Keep pushing me, Urkobolds. If you want a war I'll give you one. Don't think for one second I'm joking either.
Mid level functionary to URKOB|10.24.07 @ 3:11PM|#
JOKING?
HEAVENS NO, EDDIE. YOU ARE A MAN WHO FOLLOWS UP ON HIS THREATS FOR
ACTION!!!
Fluffy|10.24.07 @ 3:12PM|#
Someone really has to start bookmarking and archiving all the
"Redstate", "Freeper", Josh Green type hatred and disdain for Ron
Paul and his supporters.
If Paul goes 3rd party or is the subject of some netroots driven
write-in campaign, and the Republican candidate loses in a close
election, I don't want to hear any whining from Republicans.
I've said all along that the secret silver lining to the Paul
campaign is that it has brought to the surface just how much
disrespect for libertarian-republicans there is among the
nationalist and evangelical wings of the party. People have to
realize that no matter what Dondero says about it, the Republican
party hates you and wants you to go away. Remember all this stuff
when mainstream Republicans try to whine that you "nadered" them,
later on.
URKOBOLD FOR COLBERT|10.24.07 @ 3:16PM|#
COLBERT SHALL TRIUMPH! LENI RIEFENSTAHL SHALL PAINSTAKINGLY DOCUMENT HIS EFFORTS!
Episiarch|10.24.07 @ 3:20PM|#
Edward is using "Urkobold" as his handle now, even though the
real URKOBOLD uses..."URKOBOLD".
Is this your war, EDDWAAARRDDOOOO? Are you French?
|10.24.07 @ 3:20PM|#
Ginslinger -- got a better link? The one you posted leads to a
pictures of kids partying.
Seriously, does the FEC not recognize a spoof when they see it? Oh,
right, government employees -- malfunctioning irony
detectors.
Be interesting to watch Comedy Central's lawyers duke it out with
the FEC if they really proceed with such a ridiculous charge.
Bathroom Attendant for URKOBOL|10.24.07 @ 3:21PM|#
THAT'S TRUE! RONPAUL (sic) KNOWS ALL OF THE FOOT TAPPING
MOVES!
HE IS ALSO A MEMBER OF THE "RIVERDANCE WANNA BE COMPANY".
YAY!
DIDJA KNOW THAT RONPAUL (sic) WAS PHOTOGRAPHED IN A THREESOME WITH
dunder(head)oooooo AND edward(ild)ooooooooooo?
Minion of URKOBOLD posting as |10.24.07 @ 3:25PM|#
OMG!OMG!OMG! I ORDERED A CHAEZBURGER. I'M CANCELING MY
SUBSCRIPTION. I'M TAKING MY BALL AND GOING HOME. WHY DOES
EVERYTHING HAVE TO DO WITH THINGS GOING IN AND OUT OF MY ASS?
IS THIS THING ON? WHAT IS THE BEST GARNISH FOR LEMON CURRY? RONPAUL
SUX. URKOBOLD IS SILLY. MY SHOES ARE TOO TIGHT, WHILE THE SOCKS ARE
TOO LOOSE.
IT'S A WAR ON WAR! DID YOU KNOW THAT I AM
EDDIE????
WHAT IS THE IN FLIGHT VELOCITY OF AN UNLADEN SWALLOW?
Edward|10.24.07 @ 3:29PM|#
Fine. You can't say I didn't warn you. I hope you hacks can finish what you started.
|10.24.07 @ 3:30PM|#
Here's a link to
a discussion of the legal issues involved in the Colbert
"campaign.
Many more articles if you
google "FEC Colbert".
|10.24.07 @ 3:34PM|#
LAST WEEK I SAW RON PAUL RECEIVING A LARGE, LUMPY, FOUL-SMELLING
ENVELOPE FROM A MINION OF URKOBOLD.
RON PAUL IS IN THE PAY OF BIG URKOBOLD!!
NOW LET ME BLOW YOUR WHISTLE!!!!
Minion of URKOBOLD|10.24.07 @ 3:35PM|#
THAT WAS ME. IT WAS THE LEFTOVER FROM THE GERMAN SCHEISSE VIDEO WE FILMED TOGETHER.
Edward|10.24.07 @ 3:38PM|#
Wow, here comes the whole clan. The World of Warcraft server down or something?
Minion of URKOBOLD|10.24.07 @ 3:42PM|#
OMG! YOU PLAY WARCRAFT, TOO? HOW COOL IS THAT?
(actually, my site, on url, isn't really mine)
|10.24.07 @ 3:43PM|#
EDWARRRRRDOOOOOOOOO!
EDWARRRRRDOOOOOOOOO!
The World of Warcraft server down or something?
The only thing that's gone down around here lately is your
mom.
EDWARRRRRDOOOOOOOOO!
Edward|10.24.07 @ 3:46PM|#
I don't play games. Keep fucking with me and you and the rest of the Urkobolds will find that out.
|10.24.07 @ 3:48PM|#
"YES. EDDIE'S BRISS WAS MORE OF A TWEEZER CEREMONY. THERE WASN'T
ENOUGH OF HIS TROUSER SAUSAGE TURTLENECK TO MAKE A DECENT PINKY
RING."
Reason, my ass.
|10.24.07 @ 3:49PM|#
See, somebody who could actually back that up says it 3, maybe 4
times.
Somebody who can't just says it over and over and over and over and
over.
|10.24.07 @ 3:49PM|#
RAID TONITE!
EVRY1 MEET @ WWW.MAINSTREAMLIBERTARIAN.COM, BUFF THE DPS'S,
THEN WITHER OUR WAY THROUGH EDWARD'S TRASH MOB!
AND BY TRASH MOB, WE MEAN TAINT!
Minion of URKOBOLD|10.24.07 @ 3:51PM|#
SILLY, SILLY, SKIP. YOUR ASS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE
CEREMONY. JUST ASK "EDDIE". AS YOU PROBABLY HAVE HEARD, HE DOES NOT
PLAY GAMES.
WHICH IS A SHAME. I HAVE A FOURTH LEVEL WICHSER HE COULD PLAY.
|10.24.07 @ 3:54PM|#
Edward,
Just so you know, they really will ban you around here if you
continue to make creepy threats. I've seen it done. Besides, you're
making VM all crazy, and it's so much trouble getting him
straightened out. He'll be posting in Danish for weeks after
this.
Just to make the peace, I think Ron Paul is a Nazi, too. A
Liber-Nazi, but that's a quibble.
|10.24.07 @ 3:58PM|#
Hey eddie...COME AND GET ME TOO! YOUR NETFU CANNOT DEFEAT MY
MONKEY TAINT SKILLS.
COME ON, EDDIE! THIS MEANS WAR, RIGHT?
RIGHT?
EDDIE?
HELLO?
Just as I thought-big mouth on a basement-dwelling little
bitch.
|10.24.07 @ 4:00PM|#
NOW I'M AN URKOBOLD, TOO, EDDIE. WILL YOU MAKE WAR ON ME
NOW?
HOW ABOUT IF I TALK ABOUT YOUR MAMMA?
YOU KNOW, YOUR FAT, ALCOHOLIC MAMMA?
EDDIE?
HELLO?
|10.24.07 @ 4:06PM|#
Did you know that an anagram of URKOBOLD is "Cum dump" (of course, it must first be translated into Farsi)?
|10.24.07 @ 4:07PM|#
EDDIE DOESN'T PLAY GAMES. THAT'S TOO BAD. I BET I COULD BEAT HIM IN TRIVIAL PURSUIT. LOSER HAS TO GET "RON PAUL IS MY LOVEGOD" TATTOOED ON HIS TAINT.
|10.24.07 @ 4:09PM|#
"Just so you know, they really will ban you around here if you
continue to make creepy threats."
And yet, some piece of backdoor poon-tang can clog the thread with
childish blather and that's considered reasonable?
|10.24.07 @ 4:11PM|#
LOSER HAS TO GET "RON PAUL IS MY LOVEGOD" TATTOOED ON HIS
TAINT.
See my 2:15 post. Ruminate.
|10.24.07 @ 4:11PM|#
And yet, some piece of backdoor poon-tang can clog the
thread with childish blather and that's considered
reasonable?
Yes.
GinSlinger|10.24.07 @ 4:14PM|#
prolefeed, et al.
Interesting, that is not the link that I typed in, and furthermore,
it's not hypertext, as it clearly was when I previewed. Well, back
to web pre-school for me.
|10.24.07 @ 4:26PM|#
And yet, some piece of backdoor poon-tang can clog the
thread with childish blather and that's considered
reasonable?
No, just entertaining.
Episiarch|10.24.07 @ 4:32PM|#
Maybe you should lighten up, Skip. Being a stiffy probably isn't much fun.
|10.24.07 @ 4:39PM|#
No, but having one is GREAT!
(apologies to Skip)
I realize that you may have been expecting a comment thread that is
only dedicated to getting to the real nitty-gritty, in-depth
dissection of Stephen Colberts run for the Presidency, and in that
case, I am sorry for my part in obfuscating serious analytical
discussion of theis really serious matter.
VM|10.24.07 @ 4:39PM|#
Danger - that was the Capitan - that was an excellent reference
at 2:15!
Kom lad os ryge den sidste sundhedsskadelige cigaret
læg dig ind til mig og fortæl alt hvad der er sket
Hey Tornerose tag og bliv lidt før du går
hvem siger jeg er her, når du kommer igen om hundrede år? Jeg
venter på dig...
VM|10.24.07 @ 4:47PM|#
no idea, either. never mind.
All of the Eddie are belong to WEIBSKOBOLD, and I'm a little faint
from the activity!
|10.24.07 @ 4:51PM|#
"I realize that you may have been expecting a comment thread
that is only dedicated to getting to the real nitty-gritty,
in-depth..."
I'm okay with a little fun, but a highjacked thread ain't it.
VM|10.24.07 @ 4:51PM|#
On topic:
the characterization of a Paul supporter as "semi-liberal" is very
strange. Paul supports or at least his ideas fall on the side of
several socially-conservative positions.
I guess ending the drug war would be "semi liberal".....
hmmmmm.
Opposition to which war would rally the social conservative ranks
against him? Or which one would dominate?
|10.24.07 @ 4:54PM|#
I think 'semi-liberal' is a coping mechanism used by conservatives who are fighting the idea that Dr. Pauls positions might actually be more conservative than theirs.
VM|10.24.07 @ 4:57PM|#
yes - and the tainting effect of the word "liberal" is enough to
get those oh-so-open socially-conservative minds to shut a little
tighter.
However, if they would open their eyes ([and] see the lies all in
front of [them]), Paul would be the ideal gateway candidate for
them along the way to libertarianism. although they'd have to get
used to the fact that they'd be confronted with issues and elements
of life they're afraid of/ dislike... it's a quandary!
|10.24.07 @ 5:01PM|#
I'm okay with a little fun, but a highjacked thread ain't
it.
Okay, people -- for Skippy's sake, let's knock off the fun and
stick to this thread's serious topic: the Colbert candidacy.
One last comment to EDWARRRDOOOO, though:
I don't play games.
Your mom does, though.
Keep fucking with me
Your mom has that covered.
Okay, that's my last insult to Edward. I'm outa this loony bin. No
more. I mean it. I'm outa here.
|10.24.07 @ 5:02PM|#
In my view, this comes down to a lack of recognition of how social and economic policies benefit us differently. Many bumper-sticker GOP voters are more inclined to believe (and are encouraged to believe) that a gay couple getting married is going to have a more deleterious effect on their life than a nanny state with high taxes. After all, we already have taxes, so it is a case of the Devil You Know. Look at the term "Culture War".
|10.24.07 @ 5:07PM|#
I think a lot of time is wasted worrying about the
liberal-conservative distinction. Paul has some characteristics of
each, but his real focus is on limited government and maximized
personal liberty. He's not pure classical liberal, of course, but
he's a whole lot closer than any other candidate.
People often say vote the issues, but most of them don't mean it.
Paul could do a lot to rein in the federal government, both on the
civil liberties and government-as-bloat fronts. Want to end the
war? Want to end the War on Drugs? Want to stop torture? Want to
slow or reverse the ever-more invasive government? Then vote
Paul.
Unfortunately, we've been so diminished by our willingness to vote
"sound bite" that people are going to be put off by single
issues--Paul's on the wrong side of the abortion issue, he's soft
on terror, he likes drug users, he's too Christian, he's too
friendly with big business he's too whatever. Bah.
|10.24.07 @ 5:13PM|#
I'm convinced! I'm dumping Paul and voting for Colbert--Wait, wait...I don't live in South Carolina.
Theodore Dawes|10.24.07 @ 5:14PM|#
If all the pot smokers... in VERMONT.. voted for the same
candidate, he'd probably win the primary
I'm not so sure about South Carolina
Dude, rednecks are some of the biggest pot smokers out there. Ever
been to a Hank Jr. concert?
|10.24.07 @ 5:24PM|#
"If all the pot smokers... in VERMONT.. voted for the same
candidate, he'd probably win the primary"
If you took all of the urinals out of all of the bus station
restrooms in America and laid them end-to-end...you wouldn't want
to be there when they did it.
- hat tip to Johnny Carson circa 1974
|10.24.07 @ 6:59PM|#
Here ya go guys.
A balanced look at the make up of the libertarian movement...
http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/3328/floating_utopias/
...adherents of "libertarianism," that peculiarly American
philosophy of venal petty-bourgeois dissidence. Libertarianism is
by no means a unified movement. As many of its advocates proudly
stress, it comprises a taxonomy of bickering branches-minarchists,
objectivists, paleo- and neolibertarians, agorists, et various
al.-just like a real social theory. Claiming a lineage with
post-Enlightenment classical liberalism, as well as in some cases
with the resoundingly portentous blatherings of Ayn Rand, all of
its variants are characterized, to differing degrees, by fervent,
even cultish, faith in what is quaintly termed the "free" market,
and extreme antipathy to that vaguely conceived bogeyman, "the
state," with its regulatory and fiscal powers. Above all, they
recast their most banal avarice-the disinclination to pay tax-as a
principled blow for political freedom.
|10.24.07 @ 8:42PM|#
But wait, I thought that Ron Paul's supporters were all
anti-Semite racist isolationist abortion clinic bombing skin-head
conspiracy nuts....
BTR
|10.24.07 @ 11:14PM|#
So was Edward actually banned for his rather cryptic threats? Or is he just in his basement masturbating gloomily while fondling his mother's underwear? Inquiring minds want to know!
Franklin Harris|10.24.07 @ 11:59PM|#
Edward, the poor silly thing, said:
I hate all of you. I really do.
So, you're like a battered wife who keeps returning to an abusive
relationship? 'Cause all I see here is you getting your ass beat.
But, really, you do have it coming.*
* Apologies in advance to all women (and men) who are in real
abusive relationships.
|10.25.07 @ 1:17AM|#
okay. i have arrived to settle this thread down.
minions and subordinates of the urkobold: go home. your work here
is over. urkobold ain't paying you overtime.
edward: sorry, man. it just wasn't your time to shine.
VM|10.25.07 @ 9:28AM|#
Edward -
certainly. In many ways. However, check out why some people hier
support him. Some are clear in their support, others are more
vague. He has some fairly strong support here in both groups.
But you certainly are correct - I do think some of his ideas are
fucking jokes. My question as a voter is: what elements of his
candidacy (ideas, presentation, behavior, etc) are fucking jokes,
and I'd check off the other candidates' fucking jokes, too.
then you prioritize which fucking jokes are acceptable, which are
not. Then you have yourself a candidate.
Or you flip a coin.
In the end, it won't matter. Soon ZOD will become president.
URKOBOLD endorses ZOD!
Bopo|10.25.07 @ 4:03PM|#
Hahahaha, I absoluely love it when people on this site act like Ron Paul has a chance in hell of becoming the president. And what is even funnier is how the people on this site think libertarians are the intellectual cream-of-the-crop. The two are mutually exclusive. If you think Ron Paul is gonna win, you are an absolute moron.
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