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Surrender to Huckabee!
Rock 'em
sock 'em populist
Democrat David Sirota is worried about Mike Huckabee's presidential
campaign. While the rest of the GOP are running as archetypical
pro-business CEOs, Huckabee is running as an economic populist:
More of a populist than frontrunning Democrat Hillary Clinton,
even.
Huckabee... is differentiating himself not because he’s funny, as lazy Washington reporters would have us believe, but because he sounds like a mainstream American on economic issues. (Sidenote: The only national beat reporter covering the ‘08 race that has actually done any real reporting on the substance of Huckabee’s campaign is M.E. Sprengelmeyer at the Rocky Mountain News who astutely notes that Huckabee tells audiences he is not a “wholly owned subsidiary” of Wall Street, and uses “a populist pitch” revolving around talk about how “the Republican Party being in danger of being kept out of power for a generation if it’s viewed as fighting for corporate interests, not the interests of real people.”)
Unlike other leading Republican candidates who say more regressive tax cuts can fix bridges or who say Corporate America needs even more and bigger tax breaks, Huckabee is actually talking about the issues of corporate power and inequality that most people in the country understand is central to the challenges America faces.
Sirota is right, and I've seen Huckabee win over skeptical rooms
from Mitt Romney (and I've heard friends talk of him doing the same
to Fred Thompson) with his populism. The frontrunning candidate
will make some noise about tax cuts and bash Hillary: Huckabee will
talk about "main street" and "family-friendly" tax reform. Voters are
irrational, after all.
The laissez faire side of the GOP is definitely worried
about Huckabee. Some evidence: This Club for Growth
ad running against him.
As much as I like the Club, the paradox is that Huckabee's policies
are more popular than their policies. It's easier to imagine a
backslapping, economically squishy Huckabee/Tim Pawlenty ticket
holding the presidency for the GOP than is to imagine a win by
Romney, who's absorbing all the Bush administration's aloofness and
unpopular policies.
(Headline explained here.)
|8.15.07 @ 12:33PM|#
I finally realized why I dislike Mitt Romney so much - he looks
almost exactly like Tony Snow.
Huckabee is a crowd-pleaser. He uses a lot of alliteration in his
speeches, and is genuinely a nice guy.
x,y|8.15.07 @ 12:50PM|#
Huckabee is actually talking about the issues of corporate
power and inequality that most people in the country understand is
central to the challenges America faces.
Change "understand" to "incorrectly believe."
|8.15.07 @ 12:58PM|#
Trying hard now.
It's so hard now.
Trying hard now.
Getting strong now.
Won't be long now.
Getting strong now.
Gonna fly now!
Flying high now!
Gonna fly, fly, fly. . . .
|8.15.07 @ 1:08PM|#
Interesting, but his spin job strikes me as off the mark.
If anything, the GOP has done a brilliant job of pretending it
*isn't* interested in corporate America, and instead fooling all
the Johnny Punchclocks out there into actually believing it gives a
shit about supporting them, promoting their favorite religion, and
the wrongfulness of abortion, immigrants and the gays.
|8.15.07 @ 1:13PM|#
The most populist anti-buisness people in my area[Belpre,Ohio] work for Shell,G.E. and DuPont.All making high wages and all with stock 401K's.
Eric Dondero|8.15.07 @ 1:15PM|#
Or, perhaps the solution is to combine both: the laissez faire free market Wall Street candidate from the Northeast Rudy Giuliani, with the economic Southern populist Mike Huckabee?
Ramsey|8.15.07 @ 1:18PM|#
x,y, there are some problems with the current state of corporate
oversight in the US. In many instances, corporations are over
regulated in areas that require little oversight, i.e. financial
reporting to investors (the market will rapidly sort out which
corporations are lying swindlers), and under regulating them in
areas where oversight is necessary (protection from externalities
like pollution that the market does not). I think it is a valid
point that there are some "issues of corporate power and
inequality" that are fairly central to American challenges.
If corporations were a little less inclined to lobby the government
for favorable legislation there would likely be much less cronyism
and corruption. That is a problem that we are currently facing with
the burgeoning military industrial industries and the current
administration. This is directly a problem of corporate
power.
Now, I do not think that it is the governments roll to limit how
much an executive is paid, that is distinctly a role for the
market. The minute a mining company (W.R. Grace and Co), turns an
entire town (Libby MT)into a superfund site, leaves the country and
declares bankruptcy, and returns later so they avoid lawsuits, that
is a case for increased governmental involvement. Taxpayers are now
paying to clean that mess up.
|8.15.07 @ 1:22PM|#
When you watch a phenomenon enough, you learn to recognize
patterns.
When someone calls for government intervention on behalf of the
little guy, there are a million comments about how the government
has made large corporations more powerful.
When someone complains about how powerful large corporations are,
there are a million comments like x,y's, about how the perception
of corporate power is delusional.
Dr. Decent|8.15.07 @ 1:45PM|#
Huckabee rose his hand as someone who doesn't believe in evolution. So, I guess he is funny.
|8.15.07 @ 1:55PM|#
Why does he continue to lose weight? Doesn't he know that God DESIGNED him to be fat?!?
|8.15.07 @ 1:56PM|#
Or, perhaps the solution is to combine both: the laissez
faire free market Wall Street candidate from the Northeast Rudy
Giuliani, with the economic Southern populist Mike
Huckabee?
Is this the real Dondero or another spoof. It sounds like a spoof.
If Rudy actually were laissez faire free market, this would be his
only redeeming quality. Why water it down with dumbass economic
populism ala Mike Dobbs, or Lou Huckabee, or whatever his name
is?
Derrick|8.15.07 @ 1:57PM|#
x,y, there are some problems with the current state of
corporate oversight in the US. In many instances, corporations are
over regulated in areas that require little oversight, i.e.
financial reporting to investors (the market will rapidly sort out
which corporations are lying swindlers), and under regulating them
in areas where oversight is necessary (protection from
externalities like pollution that the market does not). I think it
is a valid point that there are some "issues of corporate power and
inequality" that are fairly central to American
challenges.
Absolutely. There is a problem with the balance of power between
corporations and regular folk in the U.S., and I wish libertarians
would not ignore it so often. Companies with political connections
benefit handsomely from a steady stream of subsidies, protectionist
legislation, government contracts, etc. at the expense of the
little guy aka taxpayer. That shit's not cool, and we ought to be
working *with* the liberals to stop it, instead of poo-pooing their
concerns.
I think it's safe to say that most libertarians prefer to solve it
by taking away legislators' ability to grant favors, rather than
adding additional layers of regulation like the liberals. But, I
don't hear many libertarians articulating that view. Instead, most
of what I hear is pro-corporation talk.
|8.15.07 @ 2:04PM|#
Derrick,
When liberals call attention to those problems, the corporatists
yell at them for being anti-corporate, socialist class
warriors.
You know who complains about corporate welfare? That Women's
Studies professor who gave you a C on your paper about how
oppressed white males are, that's who! Which side are you on,
anyway?
|8.15.07 @ 2:10PM|#
Other than his fundamentalism, what makes this guy a Republican? Its a sad day indeed if Republican crowds are receptive to crap like populism. Not to mention the health mandates this guy would likely propose.
|8.15.07 @ 2:15PM|#
I think it's safe to say that most libertarians prefer to
solve it by taking away legislators' ability to grant favors,
rather than adding additional layers of regulation like the
liberals. But, I don't hear many libertarians articulating that
view.
That view is articulated all day long by multiple commenters on
H&R. Articulated in the media? No, but then libertarians don't
get much "shelf space" in the media.
|8.15.07 @ 2:16PM|#
Huckabee is a crowd-pleaser. He uses a lot of alliteration
in his speeches, and is genuinely a nice guy.
I worked for seven years in a legislature full of "genuinely nice
guys" who smiled at you while picking your pocket and passing
anti-business regulations. I'll take an openly mean bastard who
wants government to leave us alone over a smiling, glad-handing
kleptocrat any day.
|8.15.07 @ 2:43PM|#
yeah, I know i doesn't make him a good person to have power. I was just saying, from the public's perspective, he's a nice dude.
|8.15.07 @ 2:50PM|#
"It's easier to imagine a backslapping, economically squishy
Huckabee/Tim Pawlenty ticket holding the presidency for the GOP
than is to imagine a win by Romney, who's absorbing all the Bush
administration's aloofness and unpopular policies."
My ass squirts blood.
|8.15.07 @ 4:11PM|#
I believe in a place called Hope.
I believe that with a couple battalions of Marines, some rock salt,
and a combine, we could eliminate the threat entirely, for us and
our grandchildren.
I believe that children are the future. Except the ones from Hope,
Arkansas.
We just can't take the chance.
Ramsey|8.15.07 @ 5:01PM|#
joe, once again you fail to show sufficient dedication.
We need to nuke them from space, it's the only way to be sure.
|8.15.07 @ 10:52PM|#
As much as I like the Club, the paradox is that Huckabee's
policies are more popular than their policies.
Yeah cuz we all know tax cuts are unpopular.
Plus i like how aloof bush allowed Woodward into the white house.
Don't recall any president before him ever giving that kind of
access.
|8.16.07 @ 2:38PM|#
"Democrats now poll 10 points higher than Republicans on
taxes."
How dumb are the public that they would choose the Democrats over
the Republicans on taxes?
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