Jacob Sullum | August 3, 2007
Here's a new wrinkle to Georgia's draconian residence restrictions for sex offenders: If a sex offender cannot find an affordable place to live that is more than 1,000 feet from the nearest school, day care center, church, swimming pool, and school bus stop, he is guilty of failing to register as a sex offender, which requires providing an address. After a second violation, he goes to prison for life. Larry W. Moore Jr., convicted in North Carolina 13 years ago of "indecent liberty with a child," is challenging the law because it left him with no place to live in Augusta except two hotels, then imposed a life sentence when he could no longer afford them.
You may not have a lot of sympathy for Moore. Judging from the charge on which he was convicted, which in North Carolina requires a victim under 16 and a defendent at least five years older, he might be a genuine child molester (as opposed to, say, a teenager who had consensual sex with another, younger teenager, a category into which many of Georgia's "sex offenders" fall). But he has completed the punishment prescribed by law and is now supposedly a free man. It is arbitrary and unjust to impose an additional penalty after the fact, in essence making it impossible for him to live his life on the outside. (In another case cited by The New York Times, a sex offender was told he had to move out of his home and abandon his restaurant when day care centers opened near both locations.) It is especially odious to render a man homeless by legal fiat and then punish him for his homelessness.
Kerry Howley criticized Georgia's sex offender law last summer; I discussed it in the context of proliferating gun-free, drug-free, and pervert-free zones last fall.
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If you're going to go to jail anyway...
Uh, yeah, this is probably the best way to make sure these guys to
commit another crime.
Yeah, these nice knee jerk laws are certainly retarded. I'm particularly against these laws that restrict people's liberties based on what they "might" do. Gun control laws fall here as well (you "might" run out after buying this gun and kill someone so we need a wait period; you might be up to no good if you are buying a lot of guns so we need a one gun a month law, etc.). Punishment should be given for BEHAVIOR not propensities. And of course when someone has finished serving their punishment we should leave them alone until they BEHAVE badly again.
BUT THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!! Did I get that right? I'm rather new to these parts.
That's OK, once we're done establishing single-payer healthcare
the state can build sex offender-only colonies in the woods.
Or else forbid the sex offender from moving, and then ban schools
and daycare centers within 1000 yards of his house. That would work
too.
Here on Long Island we've come up with a very innovative temporary solution. We put them in portable housing and site them on County land (provided it is not within the pedophile free zone). Then we move 'em around to lessen the temptation of vigilate mobs of breaking wind or worse in their direction. 'Cause we have very astute citizenry here, and trailers sitting near the courthouse steps can only mean one thing. Anyway, all this moving around has given the folks who live in these portable houses a real sense of stability.
Here in the great state of Florida (it is, mostly) sex offenders who drive a car will soon have their driver licenses inscribed with a telltale number in the lower right corner, identifying them as fiends from hell, and presumably further ruining their lives by denying them job opportunities in addition to public ridicule and homelessness. We are, literally, one step away from physically branding their foreheads. Shame on them if they are truly guilty of heinous crimes against children, and shame on us if they are not.
Oh, I get it now. Florida is mostly sex
offenders.
I was fooled by the punctuation.
I wouldn't have nearly the problem with these policies if there was some correlation between where they live and the rate of occurence in these crimes. But these laws are showing the public that our legislators are "tough on crime".(Statistics be damned.) Fact is, you are way more likely to be molested by a family member, or friend of the family, or trusted teacher/clergy than you are to have some pedophile grab you as you wait for the schoolbus. We (parents, not agencies) should be more vigilant in keeping an eye on Uncle Ernie if we really care about keeping children safe.
The real problems with this law is that it really is intended to force offenders to leave the state. I'm sure the other states are pleased that Georgia is exporting such fine persons.
Perhaps FSP ought to recruit. Assuming, of course, that NH does not have such cruel and unusual punishments on *its* books.
Bee,
No, as tempting as it would be for FSP to recruit them, it's
probably a bad tactical move. The people who committed the least
serious offenses, and who are most able to earn a living and most
worthy of the trust of their neighbors, will probably find a way to
get by where they are. A difficult way, but a way nonetheless. FSP
recruiting of people affected by this law would probably wind up
doing more harm than good for the FSP.
I'm not defending this law, but I suspect that any attempt to
recruit the people affected by it will have some serious
consequences.
Well well ... what else are we to expect from the state that houses grandma-murderers? Southern states seems particularly egregious in their abasement of common sense and decency when it comes to the justice system. Any thoughts on why that is the case?
Now all you need is for someone to realize that all the sex offenders might get into sex offender conspiracies if they all live together -- if you forbid sex offenders from living within 1000 feet of another registered sex offenders, you could actually determine the maximum number of out-of-prison sex offenders allowed to exist at one time.
Tangentially related.
This is a one weird ass story:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070803/D8QPQSGG0.html
Apparently a couple of lawyers got a restraining order against this
guy to stay away from anyone under 18 in Cali. because he admits to
being attracted to underage girls.
This is why if you're ever accused of a sex offense involving a
child you are better off just bonding out, getting your affairs in
order and then putting a bullet through your head. Even if you're
found innocent you're forever stigmatized with the accusation which
is a s good as being guilty. If you're innocent you'll likely be
found guilty anyway and even when you've served your sentence
you'll never be able to start over. You are worse than a murderer
or serial killer or cannibal - you're a kid toucher. There is no
way to ever get a new start or leave your past behind since the
state and do-gooders will hound you forever even after you've
served your sentence and parole.
You might as well kill yourself when the accusation is made. That's
how crazed the hysterical feminized pedophile rape obsessed culture
is. Take up your innocence with your God. You won't find any
justice these days.
Hey, there's something fishy about this: if they didn't have his address, how'd they find him?
In answer to your question, Henry, we lack a Final Solution to
the problem. But pretty soon some enterprising politician will
think of one.
And anyway, if they just jump straight to the Final Solution, they
would miss out on all those chances to prove their tough on crime
credentials along the way. When you got a sure-fire winner like
this, you gotta milk it for all its worth!
In other maybe-this-isn't-such-a-free-country-after-all news,
there's this: "A furious push by the White House to broaden its
wiretapping authority appeared on the verge of victory on Friday
night after the Senate approved a measure that would temporarily
give the administration more latitude to eavesdrop without court
warrants on foreign communications that it suspects may be tied to
terrorism."
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/04/washington/04nsa.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
Despite having a majority in the Senate, only 28 Democrats voted
against this. But hey, only 21 Democrats voted against the war, so
this is progress, right?
We should never forget that "sex offender" may not mean rapist
it may not even mean anything serious. The prosecutor forced
16-year-old Matt Bandy to register as an offender (the judge threw
it out -- thank god for activist judges) because he showed a
Playboy to a fellow student. In Oregon the kids may be forced to
register as sex offenders for slapping other kids on the butt. In
Utat two young teens the same age had sex with each other and were
sex offenders for molesting each other. An 18 year old who has sex
with his girlfriend, who is two weeks short of her 18th birthday
can be registered as a sex offender for molesting children.
We have seen inflation of sex offenses. The term has come to mean
almost anything that some antisexual bigot wants it to mean. If a
man takes a pee on the side of the road and someone accidentally
sees this that could be exhibitionism and require
registration.
I suspect the goal is to just eventually register everyone for
something.
Apparently a couple of lawyers got a restraining order against this
guy to stay away from anyone under 18 in Cali. because he admits to
being attracted to underage girls.
I saw this guy on TV. He didn't just make an offhanded comment
about being attracted to people under 18, he runs a website giving
pedophiles the best places to search for children to molest. Its
apparentley not illegal to do such a thing, but I'm hoping they
lock him up for as long as possible with whatever technicality they
can find.
If these people are so dangerous they should never be let out in
the first place.
You can argue how they should be confined, what kind of facilities
and conditions, but the central point is: If they are dangerous,
they should not be walking free.
If they are not dangerous, and are safe enough to let out, these
extra punishments are wrong. They amount to bills of attainder, in
effect if not by actual definition.
But then, who ever said politics is reasonable?
"Despite having a majority in the Senate, only 28 Democrats
voted against this. But hey, only 21 Democrats voted against the
war, so this is progress, right?"
So how many Republicans voted against it? Oh snap, that's
right...EVERY SINGLE ONE.
So are we now gonna run around here, like with the Iraq way, and
try to say there is equal blame between the two parties over this?
Only 16 Dems voted for this mess. I continue to maintain that
currently the Dems, while certainly not satisfactory, are nowhere
near worthy of the blame of the GOP which is nearly monolitichally
stupid.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070804/ap_on_go_co/senate_rollcall_terrorism_1
Most sex offenses are committed by family, friends or acquaintances of the victim. So registration of a sex offender doesn't mean that other children will be protected. It just warns the parents that there is a sex offender living nearby and to be extra careful with their children.
Mr Nice Guy,
Considering that the Dems have their own issues where they're the
monolithically stupid party (increasing minimum wage, doing away
with secret ballot union elections), the fact that only half of
them vote against Republican stupidity isn't exactly endearing them
to me.
But, I'm sure joe will be along shortly to explain why half the
Dems going along with the prez on this isn't a bad thing.
There is very little differants between the two parties,they just diagree on where to spend more and who's rights to take.
Well well ... what else are we to expect from the state that
houses grandma-murderers? Southern states seems particularly
egregious in their abasement of common sense and decency when it
comes to the justice system. Any thoughts on why that is the
case?
Yeah, because a majority of the Southern population is Scots and
northern English, some of the most vile people ever to draw
breath.
"If they are not dangerous, and are safe enough to let out,
these extra punishments are wrong. They amount to bills of
attainder, in effect if not by actual definition."
Not bills of attainder, but ex post facto if they're punishments.
My understanding of the theory of these laws is that they're not
punishments, but public health or safety measures like those used
to quarantine, and in this case are based partly on the idea that
they're doing the former sex offender a favor by keeping him from
behavior that he can't resist. Under this theory it would be
permissible to confine, but not punish, the person, and that these
restrictions on such persons' residence are viewed as a less
restrictive alternative to confinement.
The punishment for violations (as for failure to satisfy a
registration requirement) is supposed to be like enforcement of any
other public health or safety law. A similar requirement with
similar threat of punishment could be laid on, say, a lessor to
register the residence of a lessee who was the subject of such
provisions, but it is thought to be more expedient to require it of
the former sex offender himself.
But I still don't understand how they found this person without an
address. Did he deliberately turn himself in to challenge the law
or ruling? Did they send a summons to a mail drop he uses?
"Pedophilic perpetrators show structural impairments of brain
regions critical for sexual development. These impairments are
not related to age, and their extent predicts how focused the scope
of sexual offenses is on uniform pedophilic activity. Subtle
defects of the right amygdala and closely related structures might
be implicated in the pathogenesis of pedophilia and might possibly
reflect developmental disturbances or environmental insults at
critical periods"
Even castration (chemical or otherwise) would be more humane than what they currently put sex offenders through after prison.
Even castration (chemical or otherwise) would be more humane than what they currently put sex offenders through after prison.
I'd have to disagree with you there. Particularly with respect to
"otherwise".
Oh, yeah, and these zoning things cause substantial injustices and
are at best only slightly effective in their stated goal of
protecting children from crimes.
I'd have to disagree with you there. Particularly with
respect to "otherwise".
It would only be true if they really, truly rapists and pedophiles
could not control their compulsions. If thats the case (as LeMur
suggested) I don't see any other alternative.
I don't think its necessarily true, but I was just responding to
the comment above.
Death should be considered before castration. I read a lot of history, and that is the only thing that manages to seriously disturbe me.
Nevermind, I forgot to think about psychiatric wards. If they can't control that compulsion, they need to be in one of those the rest of their lives.
Well; death, castration, and psychiatric confinement would each be very effective methods of preventing sex offenders from re-offending. But I'll agree with Cesar that psychiatric confinement would be the most humane and (sic) most preferable of those options.
I'm not sure, but I'm fairly sure that castration has never been
effective where it has been tried.
I think it has something to do with the fact that castration of an
adult has little or no effect on sex drive. Besides, isn't most of
what drives the pedophiliac in his brain rather than his
gonads?
Strikes me, that if your looking for effective surgery,
lobotomy might be more up your alley.
I am always suprised how easily so many men are led into seeing
only one side of this coin which is, de facto, one in which both
sexes have a part. The women's 'liberation', however, has
effectively excluded the other side.
De jure, this is handled differerntly: You can see that best in the
legal practice in US courts where a woman who rapes a ten or twelve
year old boy and get pregnant is not only allowed to keep the child
but to sue her victim and have him sentenced to pay 20 years of
child support. The child rape victim is punished - not the rapist
and pedophile!
And you talk of 'castration' and the 'death penalty' - whilst the
female side is rewarded for the crime. But is it a crime?
If this is something that happens to people - something they
obviously cannot control, we have to think of it as an illness.
Now: if someone does something out of illness, the law normally
grants "insanity", permanent or temporary, as an exemption from
punishment.
Obviously, this is done for women. See also Ms. Yates who killed
her five children: if a man had done that he would be executed -
for a woman: she is ill.
What is really needed is a permanent 'good bye' to the revenge and
sadism justice that is still prevailing in countries like Iran,
Iraq, the USA, and China. A clear differenciation between
culpability and illness. And respect for human life - all human
life! And that includes those who fall ill.
Dr. J. Boost
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