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The Transgender Athletics Cases
They were not as combative as I would have expected, and maybe even not 6-3.
I have now finished reading the 250 pages of transcript in Little v. Hecox and West Virginia v. B.P.J. My global reaction was that the Justices were surprisingly not combative. After Skrmetti and Mahmoud last term, I was expecting a much more vigorous and contentious argument. But it was just the opposite. The Justices were surprisingly restrained. I don't think the vote here is 6-3. It might be 7-2, or maybe even 8-1 in favor of the government in both cases. Title IX is different than Title VII, and the Equal Protection issue here is different than the Equal Protection issue in Obergefell.
Perhaps the defining feature was Justice Kagan having a two-hour long discussion with all five lawyers about whether a plaintiff could bring an as-applied challenge for an equal protection claim. This was such a genuine and nerdy discourse. The advocates seemed surprised, and a bit frustrated, with how much time was being devoted to it. I'll talk about this issue later.
Maybe something could be said for the sequencing of the cases. Skrmetti and Mahmoud involved very thorny issues of parental rights to obtain medical treatment and parental rights to opt out of LGBT instruction. But Hecox and B.P.J. involved far simpler Title IX and Equal Protection analyses (putting aside the as-applied stuff for now). I think people genuinely do not understand all the nuances of transgender medicine but anyone who has ever watched a sporting event gets the issues in Hecox and B.P.J. I don't even think this issue is particularly polarizing. This is what Trump would call an 80-20 issue.
If the athletics case had come to the Court before Skrmetti and Mahmoud, the arguments could have been more contentious. Indeed, what if Grimm v. Gloucester County School Board, a bathroom case, was granted before Bostock was decided?
I think of Obergefell in a similar fashion. Thirty years ago, who would have thought that the Supreme Court would find a right to same-sex marriage five years before finding that Title VII bars LGBT discrimination. Sometimes, the Court does things out of order.
Finally, I think we have to account for the changing tides with regard to transgender issues. The public sees these matters far differently than a decade ago. The somewhat sedate arguments yesterday can be traced to the path already laid down.
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"They were not as combative as I would have expected"
Of course not. As a fellow Texan (me formerly) you realize us Texans are exceedingly polite. Especially when we have the upper hand. So when we slip the knife in (like in Dobbs), we go something like Kavanaugh:
"There, there Honey. It's all for the best. Didn't mean to do this. There are other precedents protecting you we'd never overturn. Promise. Shh. Shh. It will all be over soon."
We have more abortions now than prior to Dobbs!! So your knife must have killed a baby!! Lololololololololol!!!
He only likes freedom when comes as permission from the State
I didn't realize you'd personally interacted with Kavanaugh.
I caught a 4 minute snippet of sotomayor questioning one of the states attorneys. Over the course of those 4 mnutes Sotomayor described the holding in 2 or 3 cases and which point the states attorney somewhat bluntly stated that Sotomayor stated that Sotomayor characterization of those case holdings was wrong. It wasnt surprising that Sotomayor would mischaracterize the holding in a case. It was surprising that the states attorney bluntly (though slightly tempered down) that she was wrong.
The phrase "with all due respect" implies that the amount due is close to zero.
The phrase “on the basis of sex” has nothing to do with fucking. 😉
It's nice to know the cases themselves aren't combative, given how hysterical the public discourse about it is.
Those of us in the Reality based community that understand the Science are well aware that biological sex confers inherent advantages in certain sporting events. Biological makes have significantly higher upper body strength, yielding an innate advantage in sports such as swimming.
We are also aware that biological sex isn't 'assigned'; it's observed.
No no no no no.... Didn't you listen to the arguments? The Science says that a trans woman might actually be at a disadvantage in trying to move her bigger male-sized bones with less testosterone and those smaller girl-sized muscles.
I am not making that up. It was actually argued in Little v. Hecox. It's on page 112 of the transcript, complete with a reference to The Science: https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2025/24-38_bqm2.pdf
It is funny how people invoking the Science are often doing so to discard actual scientific studies without actually reading anything but their conclusion.
perhaps its because much of the "science" is not actually science but advocacy masquerading as science.
I think Justice Thomas will volunteer to check for pee pees and wee wees before an athletic event! So worth the extra $16 trillion in deficit spending to not have one pair of hairy smelly balls in college volleyball!! 😉
You're referring to Hartnett?
A big problem the pro trans women in women sports side has is that they don’t understand competition. So female athletes are super competitive but the actual fans aren’t competitive. So Jill Biden made a huge faux pas when she invited the losing team to the White House. And the reason she did that is because the LSU women’s team refused to let her speak before the championship game because Biden picked a different team to win in his bracket challenge. I’m not joking. So the female basketball players are super competitive but the fans often just like to see a good game and aren’t rooting for a certain team especially outside of a college environment. So I think Jill Biden was offended but I also think she didn’t understand how competitive the girls in girls athletics are.
That was a humorous exchange. Trying to pretend that normal strength, height, weight hormone level differences among individuals somehow justify allowing boys to compete as girls. Might as well argued the 5'8"' 10th grader should play on the girls basketball team because he cant make the boys varsity team.
All so dumb…let the organizations determine who is eligible for competitions. Btw, all male sports are open to females. I think Serena could have been a MLB pitcher if she could have developed a knuckle ball. Pitchers don’t have to hit anymore. The issue is why would a great female athlete ever play baseball when tennis and soccer exist and are very popular with fans?? But a trans woman is free to participate in the men’s division and a woman has even participated in an SEC football game.
I recall that there were two trans "men" competing in the last Olympics, in their correct sex category, with not the slightest fuss made by anybody. At the same time as the two trans* "women" competing in the boxing were causing a real fuss.
*theologically, the boxers were not "trans" ie where the variation from standard sex characteristics is supposed to be in the mind - you have the standard primary and secondary characteristics of your actual sex, save that your "gender identity" is typical of that of the other sex.
Instead they were biological males with "intersex" conditions which presumably because of genital abnormality had led them to be brought up as girls. Which in turn led them to believe quite reasonably that they were girls, although in fact they were not.
Anyway the point is that as you say, usually nobody cares whether females compete in male events because women don't bring an unfair advantage to the party (though I believe there was a case a hundred or so years ago where the men in some sport, I forget which, didn't like an actual woman doing quite well, so they got her banned.) The objection is when it's the other way round.
lol, no. The trans boxers faux controversy was a right wing echo chamber attack on Kamala because her rollout was going so smoothly Republicans needed to start a new news cycle and so they created a #fakenews narrative. They did the same thing right before the election with Biden calling a Trump’s supporter’s rhetoric “garbage” and the right wing echo chamber said Biden was calling half the country “garbage”. The gold medal winner qualified for the 2020 Olympics with no controversy when Trump was president.
Btw, it’s so hilarious that your standard for what constitutes a female is your “opinion”…so you don’t even go by science.
Btw, it’s so hilarious that your standard for what constitutes a female is your “opinion”…so you don’t even go by science.
My "opinion" ? - I don't believe I used the word.
"science" defines female as "egg-making phenotype" - it applies to any species. There is no special meaning of "female" that applies just to humans.
In your opinion the Algerian boxer was a male.
One was trans ( asian fighter?),
The other was algerian (?) who testicles and other equipment did not drop properly at birth or prior to birth so he was thought to be female at birth. Subsequent tests showed he was male which were taken 4-5 years ago. He likely knew he as male by the time he was 14-15 or at least had speculated that he was male because the normal female development wasnt occurring, etc.
Neither were trans. Both were raised as females in traditional families that probably don’t even know what trans is. You were duped by the right wing echo chamber but you don’t care because as a member of the GOP tribe all you care about is Bush defeating the libs even if it means your buddy loses his leg in Iraq and your other buddy loses his job to China and gets hooked on opioids.
re: "He likely knew ..."
I would not be that quick to judge. Males with total androgen insensitivity syndrome (a tiny minority but they exist) will present as females. They develop boobs, have wide hips and show female-pattern hair growth. The only thing they won't show is menses. But many XX-female athletes won't at that age either. One of the triggers for onset of menstration is body fat. That captain of the women's track team with abs I can only dream about may not have her first period until her early 20s. The guy you're talking about may well have been a member of that tiny minority. If so, it's entirely plausible that he neither knew nor even speculated that he was anything but female until he was tested.
Figure skating. England's Madge Syers did far too well for the lads' comfort in 190w, and the women's competition at the World Championship level was born. Well over a century ago.
The women's division established, she won the first ladies' Olympic gold in 1908, and bronze in pairs, with her coach/husband.
You know another biological thing that confers advantages in certain sports? Height. Weight. Eyesight. The length of your arms. Lung capacity. Hell, let's just say that there are dozens and dozens of ways that your genetics can affect your capacity for sport.
Is it fair that a short person will probably never be a professional basketball player, regardless of how hard they train? No, not really. But sports has never been "fair" in that way, and probably never will be.
As regards this particular question, it is indeed of questionable fairness that the absolute minuscule number of transgender people who also want to be athletes be allowed to compete in sports leagues of the gender they transitioned to. It's not fair! If the numbers of these cases ever creep out of a dozen or so, if transwomen are entering professional sports leagues by the hundreds, we may need to have a reasoned discussion about what to do! But to focus on this issue exclusively while ignoring the much more prominent ways that sports are not fair... well, it's mostly just cover for hating trans people, isn't it?
I understand why politicians harp on about it. They have elections to win, and cynically pushing that Culture War button is a no-brainer: particularly when banning trans kids from sports requires about as much effort - and gets about as much pushback - as establishing the Bear Patrol in that one episode of the Simpsons (which is a great microcosm of this whole issue, by the way). But I don't know why anyone else with half a brain is so desperate to make a mountain out of this molehill.
But that’s why the Biden solution threaded the needle perfectly—we should want middle schoolers jogging and adding a trans girl to the girls cross country team doesn’t harm anyone and in fact it’s good for the vulnerable kid to be on a team and engaging in healthy behavior. So that’s why the blanket bans are so bad because sometimes you are just picking on the most vulnerable kid at a school!?!! WTF??
Well, yeah, it's because politicians know that people freak out about this specific issue, and also that the number of people it negatively affects is tiny. So they get to grandstand about protecting the "sanctity of women's sports" or whatever, while changing absolutely nothing for anyone, except for a few poor kids that get caught in the crossfire of this mess.
It's cynical and disgusting and heartbreaking, but it's something I basically expect at this point. Gay people used to be the punching bags in the culture wars, and now we've moved to trans people. I'm sure that when we've all calmed down about this, we'll find some other minority to punch down on.
I see both sides because women’s sports in America is something great about our society and we should want to protect this great achievement. But at the same time I 100% agree that on some level it’s just more “smear the queer” 2.0 or 3.0 or whatever. But also as someone that supported gay marriage in the 1990s I’m like, can’t we just be happy that Bessent is married to a dude with children before we move on to the next culture war battle??
As someone who is gay and very happily married, my preference is for people to accept and celebrate my identity and union! I'd like the same for my trans friends!
But at the very least, I'd like people to accept that what someone wants to call themselves, what they want to wear, the gender of the person they love, and so on. is nobody's damn business but their own. Government in particular has no business being involved with this, and the only reason I can see for it is base signalling.
Just leave them alone!
But competitive sports is by definition exclusionary. And competitive sports has been an important part of American culture for over a hundred years. Like I said. a non binary individual has already won a gold medal with no controversy because the individual had no problem showing their birth certificate to the IOC. If showing a birth certificate is so bad why did the non binary soccer player do it?? Seems like that would be the time to take a stand.
I don't disagree! This is a tricky issue, and I'm more ambivalent on it than, say, people going on about trans women using women's bathrooms (which I think is the very definition of "mountain out of molehill", and only insane people care about banning it).
I just don't want people to get hurt. And the way that your governments are handling this is hurting people. A small number of people to be sure, but they don't need to be demonised any more than they already have been.
But that’s why Biden wouldn’t allow blanket bans because of the middle school cross country example where a trans girl can be easily accommodated. But varsity and college athletics is serious business and it is exclusionary on its face and a lot of Americans that don’t watch sports don’t understand how competitive female athletes are. So Prime had a segment on the NWSL championship game and not one woman at the sports bar would pick a side and they all just said they wanted a good game.
As someone who is gay and very happily married, my preference is for people to accept and celebrate my identity and union! I'd like the same for my trans friends!
What about your proud Aryan friends ? Generally people are happy to accept and celebrate those things that they think are happy-worthy and celebrate-worthy. Which brings me to your "very least."
But at the very least, I'd like people to accept that what someone wants to call themselves, what they want to wear, the gender of the person they love, and so on. is nobody's damn business but their own.
I am inclined to agree, within limits - ie if you are extraordinarily fat and ugly and you insist on patrolling the streets in a bikini, it is my business. I'd feel a little barfy. It's not my business to the extent of it being appropriate for me to pass a law preventing you from parading in your bikini, but it is my business to the extent that I'm not going to "accept" it. I'm going to "tolerate" it, which is an entirely different thing. There will be no warm feelings of "you just do what you want, hun" coursing through my heart. Instead it'll be "good grief, has that creature no shame ?"
As to whether it's my business or not I think I share the same border as you :
Government in particular has no business being involved with this, and the only reason I can see for it is base signalling.
governments should be staying out of this area. They should not be punishing people for expressing their disapproval of gay people, or trans people, or Muslim people, as is happening, alarmingly all over Europe. They should not be legislating to prevent employers from hiring, firing and promoting and, when doing so, discriminating on any damn ground they please.
Still with me ?
I think the proud Aryans you refer to hate non-Aryans. Proud gays don't hate straights.
On the contrary, I wish you the very best! One of my best friends is straight, I'll have you know.
The contrary? I said proud gays don't hate straights.
("contrary" not meaning contrary to you, contrary to the opinion that we do hate straights)
(was attempting to reply to JoshR, but it won't let me for some reason, so I'll reply to myself instead)
The reply nesting goes only 10 deep (including the OP). After that you lose who replied to who.
Many of us support the right of any adult to live (peaceably) as they see fit, and to obtain medication and/or surgery as they choose and a doctor will prescribe/operate.
But life altering treatments for children are different, and so is leveraging a biological advantage over members of the opposite sex for trophies and scholarships one's own sex aren't eligible for.
leveraging a biological advantage over members of the opposite sex for trophies and scholarships one's own sex aren't eligible for
This seems a suitable spot to comment, negatively, on a notion that bloocow and Sam have been pushing (though tbf I find it quite hard to work out what Sam is pushing as English doesn't seem to be his native tongue.)
It's not just about trophies and scholarships. Or Olympic medals. A softball game at Palookaville High School, played by 11 year old girls, may be competitively important to them. Competition is motivational all the way down to the lowest level. "Never mind your damn silly competition, let the boy play ! It's not the Olympics !" is an insufficient - indeed an arrogant - justification.
It is true of course that sometimes sports and games are played for participation not competition. But the correct judges of when competition is the point, are the players.
You have to beat them at their own game. Like with you it is your opinion the Algerian boxer is a male. So you don’t go by science you go by your opinion.
But with the people pushing for trans women in women sports they also believe nonbinary is a real gender…so how does a nonbinary individual qualify for women’s sports??? According to them they aren’t a woman…and yet a nonbinary person won a gold medal in women’s soccer. So to beat them at their own game you explain that the nonbinary individual provided their birth certificate to prove they were a female at birth. The IOC then determined based on the birth certificate that they were eligible for the women’s division even though they aren’t a female because they were female at birth!! So that should be the standard for everyone!! Sex at birth on a birth certificate. If the Algerian family had a diabolical plan to raise a boy as a girl to win an Olympic gold medal then more power to them!!
Like with you it is your opinion the Algerian boxer is a male. So you don’t go by science you go by your opinion.
The conclusion that the Algerian boxer is a male is composed from the following syllogism :
(1) all humans with testes are male
(2) the Algerian boxer has testes
(1) is routine biology - that is the (uncontroversial) "science" bit
(2) is an inference from the reported facts
It may be that the reported facts are untrue, of course. The relevant reported facts are :
(a) the photographs showing a typically male physique (not utterly conclusive, but persuasive)
(b) the reports that the boxing association tested him as XY. The estimated frequency of XY females is about 1 in 100,000, though the number of observed cases is much much less than this. This makes it overwhelmingly probable that he's a guy.
(c) the dog that did nothing in the night. If he didn't test XY, or if he has been diagnosed as an XY female, "she" or the Algerian athletics association or both would have squished the story up front with the relevant doctors' reports. Consequently the probability that (a) and (b) are giving us a false conclusion is more or less zero.
We have of course been here before. The story that Caster Semanya was a butch looking gal and how dare you neanderthals reject her as such was repeated with demented enthusiasm for well over a decade by all the usual suspects, until eventually it was admitted that what we had all known perfectly well all along, was indeed the case. Caster is a guy. With testes. And 5α-Reductase 2 deficiency.
The public have become tired with "let's pretend."
If she’s a he…then why did Trump let her qualify for the 2020 Olympics as a female??
Is the health and well being of the trans girl at all part of the equation?
If more than 85% of psychiatrists in California were to predict that at least three 49ers fans would shoot themselves if the Seattle Seahawks beat the 49ers in the playoffs this year, I would be happy to leave it to the Seattle Seahawks to weigh the value of the predictions, and withdraw if they choose.
FWIW I would not be at all surprised if, amongst all the folk suffering from depression, each year a few are tipped over the edge by watching the TV news. And yet, I do not favor banning the TV news. Nor, if I were a TV executive, would I abandon the news because of this cost.
Also I support letting people drive, fatal though it sometimes is.
Sorry, I am not following the analogy.
I get the news and driving analogies (they were added after I replied). In both of those cases, the health and well being of those who might die is part of the equation. It's just that they don't carry much weight compared to the other side.
The question is does the health and well being of trans girls have a greater weight when the girls have not gone through male puberty (*) and the level of competition is small such as a 6th grade, girls-only softball game in gym class.
(*) Even if there is a pre-pubescent male advantage, it's not much.
bloocow2 20 minutes ago
"You know another biological thing that confers advantages in certain sports? Height. Weight. Eyesight. The length of your arms. Lung capacity. Hell, let's just say that there are dozens and dozens of ways that your genetics can affect your capacity for sport."
That is what the exchange that No consequences commented on humorous. Trying to justify all the inherent differences among humans as reasons that boys should be allowed to play on girls sports teams.
And some sports where that's particularly important actually have weight divisions. You wouldn't let a 250 pound boxer compete in welterweight just because he "identified as skinny".
correct - logic, common sense and basic knowledge is ignored in pursuit of inane agenda's
Oh, it's assigned, all right, from conception - by one's DNA.
The people advocating for men in women's sports are the modern day equivalent of the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.
Biden allowed organizations to ban males from female competitions. Btw, a non woman has already won an Olympic gold medal in women’s soccer on the Canada team. The world didn’t end. Of course the individual was born a female and the nonbinary individual had no problem showing its birth certificate to determine their eligibility. So both sides are being idiots because Biden came up with a solid compromise of no blanket bans but an organization can conclude that individuals born male have an advantage and thus can be excluded.
Btw, a non woman has already won an Olympic gold medal in women’s soccer on the Canada team.
Er no, she's a woman, not a non woman.
The world didn’t end. Of course the individual was born a female
True, and she was also a female before birth and continues to be one now. As will be demonstrated if she wants to have children (and assuming she hasn't had her pipes deconstructed.) She'll need to find a sperm maker to co-operate with, not another egg-maker.
and the nonbinary individual had no problem showing its birth certificate to determine their eligibility.
And why should there be any problem ? She's a woman, she competed in the women's event. Her birth certificate presumably correctly reflects her actual sex. Nothing to see here, move along.
Except well done for being good at soccer. For a girl. Her "nonbinaryness" - ie feeling that she'd be happier as a guy - is no more relevant to her eligibility to compete in the women's soccer tournament than her ability to chug a glass of beer faster than her Dad. In each case it's totally irrelevant.
The people pushing for trans women in women’s sports don’t see a nonbinary individual as a woman like you do. So if showing a birth certificate is fine for them then it should be fine for trans women. Because we’ve already established that women sports isn’t just for women…because a nonbinary person isn’t a woman. So how do we determine eligibility for women’s sports when it is open to more than just women?? Easy, we determine eligibility by sex at birth.
Because we’ve already established that women sports isn’t just for women…because a nonbinary person isn’t a woman.
No. You've asserted it. I refute it.....thus
(Kicks trans "woman" in the nads.)
But don’t you see that the people pushing trans women in women’s sports believe non females are currently competing in women’s sports?? So how do these non women become eligible to compete in the division?? Because according to the people that believe trans women are women…but they also believe nonbinary aren’t women.
No idea what you're trying to say. I'm doubting you do either.
Don’t worry, you also supported the Iraq War so it’s not senility. 😉
But nonbinary are fine with showing their birth certificate in order to gain eligibility…so trans woman should be fine with using their birth certificate which would prevent them from competing in women’s division…but they are free to compete in men’s division.
"sex at birth" usually accompanied by the word "assigned" is simply yet another attempted con.
Sex is observed at birth and duly recorded. These days it is usually observed long before birth - medical technology, eh ?
Very occasionally the observing and recording is erroneous - more frequently in lower tech countries, including say North Africa now, and the United States several decades ago; so that someone who is actually male is recorded as female (most usually because of undescended testicles, and maybe ambiguous external genitals.)
But because error is rare, the sex observed and recorded at birth, is a pretty good proxy for actual sex, even if very occasionally it is wrong. Which is why sports organizations have used it as a proxy measurement of sex. But things move on - medical technology, eh ? - and because of some high profile cases of folk who are obviously actually male competing in and winning women's events, there is now a demand for a better proxy. For example karyotype testing.
Karyotype is a MUCH better proxy for actual sex than sex recorded at birth - ie the error rate is much lower. But it's still a proxy.
If it's born with the DNA which produce ovaries and a uterus, it's a woman.
Except not in Lee Moore’s opinion which is what counts. 😉
Because we’ve already established that women sports isn’t just for women…
We have?
There are legions fine with trans rights, but consider this a bridge too far. Women's sports were carved out to encourage athletics by not having to feel second rate due to things they cannot control.
I've said before I don't have an elegant solution to this, but this isn't it.
You have to beat them at their own game!!! People that believe trans women are real women also believe nonbinary are not real women!!! So trans supporters currently believe non women are participating in women’s sports!!! How did these non women become eligible to compete against women?? They showed the ruling bodies their birth certificates which says they were female at birth which makes them eligible to compete in the women’s division!!! Trans women should be required to do what nonbinary have already agreed to do!!!
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Why can't there be male boys, female girls, gays, male girls, female boys leagues?
Let all the male boys compete against male boys.
Female girls against female girls.
Male girls against male girls.
Female boys against female boys.
Etc...
Easy.
Two divisions—an open division and a division for individuals born female. An SEC football game featured a female football player and so all men’s sports are open division.
I am a straight, cisgender man and generally sympathetic to LGTB plaintiffs, but I don't think that athletic participation for trans folks is a hill to die on.
Sex-based classifications are subject to intermediate scrutiny. I think the concerns for avoiding unfair competition and for privacy in the locker rooms are sufficient to satisfy intermediate scrutiny.
The counter arguments presented by the respondent who never went through male puberty are:
1) The government's interest in fairness and safety that overcomes intermediate scrutiny does not apply to this child.
2) Title IX permits sex-segregated sports, but only to further the government's interests in fairness and safety. And again, that doesn't apply to this child.
No doubt, SCOTUS will reject these arguments. But, they are not trivial.
Perhaps more importantly, SCOTUS will likely hear a case down the road that challenges federal regulations that say states which permit trans girls in girl's sports violate Title IX. I think Gorsuch hinted he might not go for that while Kavanaugh seemed gung ho about it.
The respondent's argument is based on the premise that, absent puberty, boys and girls are athletically identical. That premise is scientifically dubious at best. Several recent studies have shown increased testosterone levels in males as young as still-in-the-womb. It's not as dramatic a difference as there is after puberty but it's enough that there are measurable musculature and skeletal differences before puberty that persist even if puberty is later delayed or inhibited.
The best you can claim is that the science is still undecided on this point. Which means that legislatures are free to make their own determination - including rules contrary to the respondent's yet-unproven premise.
The challengers' argument is difficult to follow and seems like a con job. Tell me if I am reading it wrong.
1) They concede that there can be separate boys and girls sports teams. No objection there. Seems calculated to get everyone on board. Neither side disputes this.
2) #1 is justified because boys have a biological and physical advantage over girls that would make girls sports less competitive. However, this is the only justification.
3) If a particular boy (or "trans girl") can show that the justification in #2 does not apply to him or a group of boys similarly situated to him (or "her") then the state loses its justification for excluding him. The constitution requires that he be admitted to the girls team.
Am I good so far? If so, then #3 completely contradicts #1. States can then in fact not have separate boys and girls teams. The distinction must be on some type of physical size or other biological advantage, not based on sex. The argument is like a snake eating its own tail.
I think you have #1 wrong. They do not agree that either the EP Clause or Title IX permits categorically excluding boys from girl's sports. Instead, they only permit the exclusion where the state's interests in fairness and safety are satisfied (which means over 99% of boys are prohibited from girl's teams).
Thanks. So is their argument limited to transgender students?
Suppose I presented evidence that my cisgendered son was physically within the median range of strength of girls. Also assume that he is of a height and weight in the median range of girls.
Would I then have a constitutional argument that he should be permitted to play on the girls team?
If so, then it seems that they are challenging the very idea of a "girls" team and a "boys" team as a facial matter and not as an applied matter. And when you do that, you are turning intermediate scrutiny into strict scrutiny by a linguistic trick.
They counter that only boys who do not have the inherent advantages of being male cannot be excluded. That would only cover trans girls who either don't go through male puberty or suppressed testosterone (all other boys, no matter how bad they are at sports have the inherent advantages and thus with proper training and practice could impact fairness and safety). And, whether either condition is enough to erase the inherent advantage is subject to fact finding before the class could be included.
Unfortunately :
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39716906/
There are profound sex differences in human performance in athletic events determined by strength, speed, power, endurance, and body size such that males outperform females. These sex differences in athletic performance exist before puberty and increase dramatically as puberty progresses. The profound sex differences in sports performance are primarily attributable to the direct and indirect effects of sex-steroid hormones and provide a compelling framework to consider for policy decisions to safeguard fairness and inclusion in sports.
This is hardly surprising, as testosterone in males exceeds testosterone in females lifelong, as soon as the testes start pumping it out in utero. The peaks of male excess testoreone are in utero, mostly second trimester, and then during puberty, but even at the non peaks, there's a male excess :
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Lee-Ellis-3/publication/226994172/figure/fig1/AS:393640917651458@1470862716137/The-life-cycle-average-testosterone-levels-for-males-M-and-females-F-Modified-from.png
Interestingly the female peak is well after puberty.
The Biden compromise had more to do with how exclusive is the team or competition. So the least exclusive sport that also happens to be arguably the healthiest (and it’s also the most important from a military standpoint) is cross country. So nobody loses a chance to compete if another individual is added to a middle school cross country team. Plus it’s a healthy outdoor activity. Plus it is the most important physical activity with respect to enlisting in the military and earning a Ranger tab which is the most prestigious somewhat accessible distinction one can earn in the military with the first women having earned it in 2015.