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Fourth Circuit (2-1) Upholds Ban on Teaching Any Person How to Make or Use Explosives While "Knowing" Such Person's Bad Intentions
From today's Fourth Circuit opinion in U.S. v. Arthur by Fourth Circuit Judge Steven Agee, joined by District Judge Roderick Young (E.D. Va.), the facts (though defendant's main challenge relates to the facial coverage of the statute):
Arthur [through his company, Tackleberry Solutions, offered] … "training," with the goal of "help[ing] the average person to be able to defend themselves" against "a tyrannical government of our own or an invading tyrannical government." He published videos and sold manuals online with titles including "Fatal Funnels, Wartime Tactics, Repelling the Assault," and "Quick Reaction Force, Modern Day Minutemen, Improvised Explosives." …
The FBI began investigating Arthur following a fatal incident in June 2020 involving one of his customers, Joshua Blessed. While searching Blessed's home in Richmond, Virginia, the FBI found fourteen live pipe bombs that were identical to those described in Arthur's manuals, as well as six manuals that he wrote.
Shortly thereafter, the FBI had a confidential informant—"Buckshot"—contact Arthur for training…. Eventually, Arthur invited Buckshot to join him for in-person training, for which Buckshot would be charged a fee. Buckshot accepted his invitation and, upon his arrival, explained to Arthur that "[the] ATF's been to my house…. [T]hey're probably coming back…. [W]hen they do, I want to be ready." … Arthur spent the next three hours teaching him how to fortify his residence against the returning federal agents.
[Among other things, Arthur] suggested mounting cans of Tannerite {a commercially available explosive, commonly used to make exploding targets for marksmanship purposes} around the property that could be detonated with a rifle shot. In addition to this "perimeter defense," Arthur suggested that it "wouldn't be a bad idea" for Buckshot to "put[ ] some [improvised explosive devices (IEDs)] right up around the doors [of the house]." He noted that he kept such an IED on his front porch.
Arthur also suggested "a setup called the Spiderweb," which he described as "a freaking death box." The "Spiderweb" involved blocking most entrances to Buckshot's house and then placing remotely operated explosives near the remaining entrances, along with a "sentry gun" that could be remotely fired. Arthur even went so far as to offer to "help [Buckshot] design [and] build it," and later showed Buckshot how to use a lightbulb to make a detonator ….Buckshot paid Arthur for the training, and the two agreed to stay in contact.
The majority concluded that the speech banned by the statute "fall[s] largely within one of the 'well-defined and narrowly limited classes of [unprotected] speech': speech integral to criminal conduct," because it was tantamount to aiding and abetting crime (rather than being protected "abstract advocacy" of crime "contemplated in [cases such as] Brandenburg v. Ohio):
[O]ne who teaches another how to make "explosive[s]," "destructive device[s]," or "weapon[s] of mass destruction," while knowing that the recipient of that information intends to use it to commit a federal crime of violence, has effectively facilitated the commission of the other's crime. That is, but for the proscribed communications, the other person would lack the means to commit their intended crime. Those communications are therefore necessary—or "integral"—to the other person's intended crime.
The facts in this case illustrate that general point: Buckshot told Arthur he wanted to kill ATF agents who were bothering him, but he needed Arthur's guidance to make that a reality. Arthur, in turn, provided Buckshot with all the information he needed to accomplish that objective. Arthur's actions were thus integral to Buckshot's intended crime.In effect, but for Arthur's instruction, Buckshot could not commit his intended crime….
Suppose that, rather than seek out guidance on how to make explosives, Buckshot went to Arthur in search of the explosives themselves. Suppose also that Buckshot relayed his nefarious intent to murder federal agents to Arthur, and that Arthur provided Buckshot with the explosives he needed to carry out his plot. Under those circumstances, Arthur's provision of the explosives would certainly be deemed integral to Buckshot's intended crime. After all, he needed explosives to commit the crime, and Arthur provided them.
The facts here—and under § 842(p)(2)(B) more generally—are functionally no different. Arthur taught Buckshot everything he needed to know to create the explosives he desired, and he did so knowing that Buckshot intended to use those explosives to commit a federal crime of violence. Arthur's teachings were thus integral to Buckshot's intended crime….
Instead, the statute's prohibitions are much more akin to the type of "aiding and abetting of criminal conduct" that this Court has held may be limited without running afoul of the First Amendment. In fact, the only real difference between aiding and abetting, on the one hand, and the conduct proscribed by § 842(p)(2)(B), on the other, is that the former requires the abettor to share the same criminal intent as the principal perpetrator. Section 842(p)(2)(B), by contrast, requires knowledge that the recipient of the bombmaking information intends to commit a crime. But for purposes of the First Amendment, this is a distinction without a difference. That's because, practically speaking, someone violating § 842(p)(2)(B) is aiding—i.e., facilitating—the underlying crime by intentionally sharing the specified information with someone that they know intends to use it to commit a proscribed crime. And because that sort of facilitation is undoubtedly "integral" to the underlying crime, it is unprotected speech….
It is correct that many of the examples of speech integral to criminal conduct include some sort of specific intent to commit an underlying crime…. [But] neither the Supreme Court nor this Court has ever limited this exception to only apply where the defendant possesses a specific intent to commit an underlying crime…. The main limiting principle for this exception is in its substance—that is, whether the speech was truly integral to the criminal conduct in question. And for the reasons already discussed, that requirement is plainly met with § 842(p)(2)(B)….
The court rejected the argument that guilty knowledge was too easy for the government to prove, reasoning that,
If guilty knowledge was so easy to prove in this context, it seems likely this issue would have arisen previously in the [subsection's 26-year history. But as counsel acknowledged at argument, this appears to be one of the first ever prosecutions under § 842(p)(2)(B).
The court also noted that the statute apparently doesn't cover a situation where a "speaker taught or otherwise disseminated bombmaking information to a broad audience" but "at some point after dissemination … became aware of at least one individual who intended to use that information to commit a crime." … "[B]ecause § 842(p)(2)(B) requires that knowledge to exist at the time of the proscribed teaching or distribution, a prosecution would not be successful under such circumstances." And it added:
Briefly, the Government argues that § 824(p)(2)(B)'s statutory counterpart—§ 842(p)(2)(A)—is the more applicable provision for [such] broad dissemination …. While we need not reach the issue, the Government raises a good point.
Section 842(p)(2)(A) broadly prohibits "any person" from "teach[ing] or demonstrat[ing] the making or use of an explosive, a destructive device, or a weapon of mass destruction, or to distribute by any means information pertaining to … the manufacture or use of an explosive, destructive device, or weapon of mass destruction, with the intent that the teaching, demonstration, or information be used for, or in furtherance of," a federal crime of violence.
By contrast, § 842(p)(2)(B) prohibits "any person" from "teach[ing] or demonstrating to any person" the making or use of those same weapons, and "distribut[ing] to any person, by any means, information pertaining to … the manufacture or use" of those weapons, while "knowing that such person intends to use the teaching, demonstration, or information for, or in furtherance of," a federal crime of violence.
Even setting aside the obvious distinction between the two statutes—the differing mens rea requirements—there is another crucial difference: § 842(p)(2)(B) requires that the teaching, demonstration, or dissemination of information be "to any person," with the knowledge that "such person" will use it improperly. This suggests that the conduct proscribed by § 842(p)(2)(B) must be directed toward some specified person(s), rather than just sent out into the ether. Section 842(p)(2)(A) contains no such limiter, and thus more naturally reads as being aimed at the sort of broad dissemination Arthur posits in his hypotheticals.
Judge Roger Gregory dissented, largely arguing that the statute is unconstitutional because it requires mere knowledge that a recipient would use the information to commit a crime rather than purpose that this happen; an excerpt from the long opinion:
Knowledge is too readily proven during prosecution to sufficiently winnow this broad statute. To show knowledge, the prosecution generally must present evidence that the speaker is "aware" that a recipient intends to use the information in furtherance of a federal crime of violence. But adjudicators may "impute the element of knowledge" when "the evidence supports an inference of deliberate ignorance." Criminal defendants can satisfy a knowledge requirement for failure to investigate suspicious circumstances, as with a pharmacist purchasing medication at below-market rate, or a recipient of funds from illegal activities who failed to inquire about the source of suspicious deposits….
Consider, for instance, [a] university professor … who is scheduled to give a lecture on the physics of combustion, or even simply on the topic of potential energy, which surely constitutes a "part" of information about explosives. If the professor had reason to believe a listener would weaponize this information—perhaps a potential attendee sent a letter outlining malicious intentions, or an audience member wore a t-shirt suggesting an affinity for violence—then the professor could conceivably be prosecuted under Section 842(p)(2)(B) for providing restricted information knowing that an audience member intended to use that information for nefarious purposes.
The same could be said for a publisher of an instructional manual for safe use of explosives in construction and demolition. If the publisher received prior notice of a potential reader's inclination to weaponize the manual's information, the publisher would be at risk of prosecution under Section 842(p)(2)(B). In both examples, protected and socially valuable speech is stifled because of the possibility that a rogue audience member would misuse the information provided, even if the speaker did not intend such misuse….
[While I believe these examples] would satisfy the knowledge requirement to permit liability under Section 842(p)(2)(B) … they [in any event] constitute speech that might be chilled under this statute, especially "given the ordinary citizen's predictable tendency to steer wide of the unlawful zone." If ordinary citizens become aware that they can be punished for providing information they anticipate will aid a crime, they will surely hesitate to provide information when they believe there is some small chance of criminal activity….
At its core, this statute brings the First Amendment into new territory, where speech is prohibited not because of the intent of the speaker, but because of the intent of the listener. When a criminal statute requires the speaker to have a criminal intent, First Amendment concerns are lessened. U.S. v. Hansen (2023) [upholding punishment of criminal solicitation -EV]. The chilling effect of a criminal statute premised upon the intent of the speaker has minimal chilling effect, because the speaker will always know whether they have the requisite intent. When the speech is criminalized as a result of the listener's intent, however, the speaker is in a far more precarious position.
As a result, the prudent speaker who is unsure about the motivations of an audience will refrain from speech. An "important tool to prevent that outcome—to stop people from steering wide of the unlawful zone—is to condition liability on the [government]'s showing of a culpable mental state." For this statute, the knowledge requirement insufficiently establishes culpability.
I do not doubt that this statute restricts some legitimately proscribable speech; the circumstances of Arthur's case demonstrate that this statute has at least some constitutional applications. But the reduced mens rea requirement, in combination with the broad language of the statute, creates an unacceptably high risk of chilling protected expression….
And for the same reason, the dissent argued that the speech didn't fall within the "speech integral to criminal conduct" exception:
While the restricted speech may facilitate the Federal crime of violence, it is stretching the category beyond its historical limits to claim that the speech is "tantamount to" a federal crime of violence, or "simply a means" of committing a federal crime of violence…. [A]ll other speech integral to criminal conduct is penalized only when the speaker has the specific intent to commit the crime. Criminal solicitation, conspiracy, extortion, and perjury each require the speaker intend to carry out the underlying criminal act. The Supreme Court has defended the "speech integral to unlawful conduct" category by noting that "[s]peech intended to bring about a particular unlawful act has no social value; therefore, it is unprotected." U.S. v. Hansen (2023).
And the dissent also argued that § 842(p)(2)(B) impermissibly restricted "sharing publicly available and socially valuable information":
As the U.S. Department of Justice acknowledged in its 1997 report on bomb manufacturing, "anyone interested in manufacturing a bomb, dangerous weapon, or a weapon of mass destruction can easily obtain detailed instructions from readily accessible sources such as legitimate reference books, the so-called underground press, and the Internet." The report further recognized that any statute attempting to quell the dissemination of this information would need to leave untouched "the wholly legitimate publication and teaching of such information, or otherwise violate the First Amendment."
The First Amendment provides strong protection for the provision of publicly available facts, such as those restricted by Section 842(p)(2)(B). The Supreme Court has long hesitated to punish speakers whose only misdeed was providing truthful information through a new avenue. See Florida Star v. B.J.F. (1989). When the state criminalizes sharing information that exists in the public domain, it places a burden on the speaker to refrain from speech but does not prevent the listener from accessing that information through other, legal channels. Absent an intent to facilitate the commission of a crime, "it is a limited set of cases indeed where, despite the accessibility of the public to certain information, a meaningful public interest is served by restricting its further release by other entities."
The dissent concluded:
As Justice Hugo Black wrote, "My view is, without deviation, without exception, without any ifs, buts, or whereases, that freedom of speech means that you shall not do something to people either for the views they have, or the views they express, or the words they speak or write." While there are no doubt benefits to restricting certain categories of speech, "[t]he First Amendment itself reflects a judgment by the American people that the benefits of its restrictions on the Government outweigh the costs. Our Constitution forecloses any attempt to revise that judgment simply on the basis that some speech is not worth it." I believe the shocking breadth of the statutory language, combined with the ease of proving knowledge and the substantial danger of chilling protected speech, justify imposing the "strong medicine" of facial invalidation for overbreadth.
For more on my general thoughts on the subject, see my Crime-Facilitating Speech article and my The "Speech Integral to Criminal Conduct" Exception article.
Sue J. Bai and Gavan W. Duffy Gideon represent the government.
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Eugene, looks like you inadvertently forgot a link to the decision itself.
Whoops, fixed, thanks!
Welp, without reading the decision, I'm gonna guess that this "very fine person" is a total patriot who just needs to pay the right grifter to whisper "he was treated badly by Biden" in Trump's ear ... problem solved!
I think the dissent has a point. Under the facts of this case, I think a jury might well have concluded that the defendent intended that what he taught his client to do would happen. But I think he is entilted to have the jury decide the point.
But I also find myself disinclined to apply the overbreadth doctrine to matters outside the First Amendment’s scope where violent crime is involved. I would be inclined to construe the statute as having an implied scienter element necessary to render it constitutional, vacate the conviction, and send the case back for a new trial before a properly instructed jury.
I agree with the opinion. IMHO, the dissent illustrates the problem with the overbreadth doctrine. It is easy for lawyers to sit around and come up with wild hypotheticals about how a law could be abused. When it is not being abused and there is no real chance of it being abused, we are letting perfection get in the way of progress.
Call me up when physics professors start getting arrested. Until then the law targets guys like this defendant who are the ones in need of punishment.
Yep. This seems pretty on-point:
Because invalidation for overbreadth inevitably “destroys some good along with the bad,” it is a “strong medicine” that should not be “casually employed.” Id. (cleaned up). “To justify facial invalidation, a law’s unconstitutional applications must be realistic, not fanciful, and their number must be substantially disproportionate to the statute’s lawful sweep.” Id.; see N.Y. State Club Ass’n v. City of New York, 487 U.S. 1, 14 (1988); see Miselis, 972 F.3d at 531. In the absence of such a lopsided ratio, courts must handle unconstitutional applications in the typical manner—case-by-case. Hansen, 599 U.S. at 769.(emphasis added). This seems like an unremarkable position for a facial challenge.
ope, messed up the blockquote in editing. Apologies, but I hope the usage here is clear.
The problem is that the "wild hypotheticals about how a law could be abused" far too often become routine prosecution tactics once the precedent has been established. The overbreadth doctrine can be the only thing that stops us from even setting foot onto that slippery slope.
If you wait until physics professors are getting arrested, it's far too late to change things.
But there is no universe that we live in in which physics professors will get arrested under this law.
I take your point that sometimes laws do run away with themselves. The better way that it gets challenged, IMHO, is IF a physics professor gets arrested, then he is the proper party to challenge the law because now we have a concrete case where the law is actually harming someone.
Doing it this way you just let all sorts of people that we agree should be punished get away with it on the speculative chance that the law will be applied erratically.
IOW, if it is challenged by the physics professor, it is not "far too late" to challenge the law, it is just the right time.
No because by then the case against the professor is a slam-dunk "by long-established precedents".
I get that you're trying to say that the world is full of grays and that trying to apply the law in a strictly black-and-white fashion will allow some bad people (dark grays) to go free. What you're missing is that when you fudge the law to sweep up those dark grays, it's precedent to fudge the law again to sweep up the medium grays, then the light grays and pretty soon even the off-whites (and we're all a little off-white) are at risk. You're throwing away Blackstone's Ratio for mere expedience.
I take an intermediate position. I agree with the dissent on the merits. But I would not apply the overbreadth doctrine here. Instead, I would construe the law as having an implied intent requirement, as is commonly done in matters outside the First Amendment. I would tend to agree that applying the overbreadth doctrine here illustrates its problems. But I would not use this case to strike down the overbreadth doctrine as a whole. Instead, I would carve out a narrow exception and say that intent and scienter requirements can be construed into laws that focus on crime-facilitating speech, just as is routinely done for laws involving the underlying crimes.
In this particular case, I think it’s very likely that a properly instructed jury would find that the defendant intended what he instructed his client on how to do would occur and would return a guilty verdict. But I think’s it’s possible a jury could find reasonable doubt on the point. I don’t see the possibility of it occurring in this specific case as so unlikely that I would consider it fanciful. And this is a real case, not a hypothetical.
I would neither uphold the conviction nor strike down the law. Instead, I would give the law a narrowing construction (an implied intent requirement) to render it constitutional, and send the case back for retrial before a properly instructed jury.
I was in the Navy in the mid 80's. I was a Search and Rescue helicopter crewman. We were still in the Cold War and I received specialized training in the destruction of downed aircraft including the use of explosives. When I went to College in 2003 for Engineering the College told me that because of the classes listed in my military record, I would not be permitted to take Chemistry. They used an alternative lesson plan. Yes several of my military classes started with EOD. My Advisor (a flaming Liberal) literally told me that they didn't want me around the chemicals in the Class because I might have PTSD and blow the place up. He wasn't too thrilled when I said that if I wanted to do that, I'd just go to Walmart.
Two questions :
1. Shortly thereafter, the FBI had a confidential informant—"Buckshot"—contact Arthur for training….
What would the FBI have to do to make this sort of thing "entrapment" - or does it not matter if it is or not ?
2. Who decides these "sitting by designation" things ? Some committee ? CJ Roberts ? The Chief Judge of the 4th Circuit ?
For something to be entrapment, the government must (to put it in layman's terms) coerce or significantly induce someone to do something he would otherwise be unwilling to do. It is not entrapment for the government to (a) merely ask someone to do something illegal; (b) provide the means for someone to do something illegal; or (c) pay someone to do something illegal.
"something he would otherwise be unwilling to do. "
And if he does it, that is treated as nearly conclusive proof that he was inclined to do it anyways. Jacobsen v. United States was an outlier and had facts that will likely be never repeated again. Nonetheless that case always comes up in this context.
How is payment _not_ "significantly inducing"?
28 U.S.C. §292:
Entrapment as a matter of law might not be officially dead, but it is surely gasping and there are no paramedics anywhere around.
The law has it in a choke hold, and isn't letting go until it stops struggling.
25 years in prison for illegal teaching. USA! USA!
The idea that Arthur had had “knowledge” that Buckshot intended to use the information gained for an unlawful purpose is a bizarre assertion when Buckshot was lying about having such an unlawful purpose.
If someone lies to you without you realizing it, you don’t gain knowledge from the lie.
In fact, Arthur did not have knowledge of Buckshots unlawful purpose and could not have such knowledge since no such purpose actually existed. I presume that “knowledge” here is being used in a way different than its ordinary meaning. If so, I don’t approve unless clearly defined in the statute and even then, I think it is weird. Ambiguity in criminal statutes is supposed to interpreted against the government under lenity principles.
An ordinary person who was lied to would not consider themselves to have gained knowledge about the subject of the lie.
On some moral level, it doesn’t matter because the bad intent is the same. However, despite having the same bad intent, we still distinguish between murder and attempted murder.
I probably have to read EV’s law review article…
Everyone with working ears gains knowledge everytime anyone around them speaks on any subject for any reason.
Most of it is pretty useless knowledge, like "he has a bad cough, she has an accent, they must be lying to me, we clearly are all idiots..."
But it's all still knowledge. Knowledge also includes the subsets of true knowledge and false knowledge.
At this time, I have "Knowledge" that you may or may not have the true legal name of David Welker. I really have no way of knowing if that's true knowledge or false knowledge, but you do appear to be someone who uses the name "David Welker" on the internet, and hey, the odds of that being pretty close to your legal name are probably greater than 51%, as far as I know.
If you gave your name as "Osama Bin Ladin", (prior to his death), and then I taught you how to make creative explosive deathtraps, which, by the way, would also absolutely violate the various routine state laws about not building no-human-in-the-loop deathtraps...
It seems like it's perfectly defensible to claim that, yeah, I 'knew', or at least very strongly suspected, or at least displayed obviously clear negligence in not checking up on, that you were Osama Bin Ladin who was asking for helping constructing illegal explosive deathtraps.
If you WEREN'T really Osama Bin Ladin, and WEREN'T actually going to construct illegal deathtraps, then I merely 'mistakenly' knew that you were.
Note that the question of entrapment is an entirely different line of questions. I'm not touching those: Someone else can worry about it.
The idea of 100% perfectly true and utterly verified knowledge is a myth. Virtually everything we 'know' is only actually 'known' with something like 99.999% level of certainty, at best. and lots of things are 'known' with way less certainty than that.
But it's all still knowledge. Knowledge also includes the subsets of true knowledge and false knowledge.
Nope.
At this time, I have "Knowledge" that you may or may not have the true legal name of David Welker. I really have no way of knowing if that's true knowledge or false knowledge,
You're veering far from the path of logic. It is true that you know that the person posting as David Welker may or may not have the true legal name of David Welker. If it turns out that that person really is called David Welker then you do indeed know the poster's name. But if it turns out that that poster has the real name of Brendan McGillicuddy then you only know that the poster is presenting himself as David Welker. You do not have "false knowledge" that the poster is David Welker, what you have is a false belief. Belief and knowledge are different things. And as for knowledge, it sometimes matters precisely what you know. Such as when the law is interested in what you know.
So returning to Mr Welker's point (or perhaps Mr McGillicuddy's) - he correctly points out that Arthur did not have the requisite knowledge to fall within the terms of the law, which we are advised of thus :
Section 842(p)(2)(B), by contrast, requires knowledge that the recipient of the bombmaking information intends to commit a crime
Since the recipient had not the smallest intention of committing a crime, Arthur could not have had knowledge that the recipient intended to commit a crime. At best he could have had a belief that the recipient intended to commit a crime, and as it turns out, a false belief.
Without in any way wishing to disparage Mr Welker and his point, this is so obvious that the prosecutor, defense and judge must all have been aware of it. From which I deduce that either there is a separate part of the law that deems a false belief of an intention to commit a crime to be "knowledge" for the purposes of the law; or some legal precedent stating that a false belief constitutes "knowledge" of the item the believer falsely imagines he knows .
Criminal law doesn’t work this way, but I think it’s a legitimate point. Knowledge implies the existence of facts. Given that the informant did not actually imtend to carry out the mission, knowledge of the informant’s intentions means knowing that the informant did not intend to carry out the mission. So if the defendant had knowledge of the informant’s intentions, he ought to be found not guilty.
What the government appears to have proved is that the defendant BELIEVED the informant was going to carry out the mission. But knowledge is not belief, and in cases where informants aren’t involved, the law makes a clear distinction between the two. And the statute says knowledge, not intent, not belief.
Perhaps the proper outcome of this case would have been to reverse the conviction and say that if Congress had wanted to say that the defendant BELIEVED or INTENDED that the act would actually be performed, it knew how to say so.
That is, in this case, knowledge may actually require a higher standard of proof than intent. Intent allows cases where confidential informants set up stings with no actual intent to carry the plan out, since it’s what the defendant subjectively intends, not what is the case in the real world, that matters. But unlike intent, knowledge is not subjective. There have to be facts in the real world for the defendant to know. If those facts do not exist, there is no knowledge of them. There can be no “knowledge” of make-believe cover stories like the ones informants have.
In this case there would be no need to opine about any distinction between intent and belief, but I would agree with the dissent that intent is required, not just belief.
After further reflection, I tend to agree with David Welker above and now think the defense lawyers made a fundamental strategic mistake. The appeal raIsed only a facial overbreadth argument, arguing that the First Amendment requires intent, not “just” knowledge. This argument assumes intent is a stronger requirement than knowledge.
What the lawyers missed, and I initially did as well is that in this case, knowledge may actually be a stronger requirement than intent. The defense ahould have challenged the sufficiency of the evidence accepting the statute as is.
Intent is a subjective state of mind. It can exist with no reference to anything in the outside world, and based on entirely mistaken beliefs about the outside world.
But knowledge is something objective. It requires the existence of a fact in the outside world. Without the existence of a fact, there can be no knowledge of it.
In this case, the evidence clearly showed that the prosecuting witness “Buckshot” was not actually going to carry out the mission he described to the defendant. The witness was a confidential informant working for the government. The story he presented to the defendant about what he was supposedly going to do was entirely fictional.
Thus, if the witness is believed, the defendant could not possibly have had knowledge that the defendant was planning to commit a murder. The fact was the defendant was NOT planning to commit a murder. If the defendant possessed knowledge of the facts, he would know this. And if he mistakenly believed that the witness was actually going to commit a murder, that would be the case only because he did not have knowledge -he did not know the true facts.
So the evidence here clearly showed the defendant did not possess knowledge about the existence of any murder scheme, because no murder scheme existed to know about. Thus, the evidence clearly showed the defendant was not guilty of the crime charged.
If Congress had wanted a conviction to be upheld possible in a sting-type case involving fictional schemes fabricated by government agents, it would have needed to use a lesser, purely subjective term like “intent” that refers only to the defendant’s subjective state of mind without regard to facts in the outside world.
Instead, Congress imposed the stronger, objective term “knowledge.” This imposes a much higher evidentiary quantum, requiring the existence of a real scheme in the outside world that defendant is ACCURATELY cognizant of. It completely rules out conviction when the “scheme” is a pure fiction with no actual existence. Fiction can be believed in. It can be intended. But it cannot be known.
The defense lawyers here were foolish not to have raised a sufficiency-of-the-evidence argument and focused on interpreting “knowledge” in a manner favorable to their client rather than challenging it as unconstitutional. It was their client’s best hope. If their client has been tried on a statute that required only intent, he would probably have been found guilty.
If the appeal had been over jury instructions rather than elements of the crime, would the difference between knowledge and intent be harmless beyond a reasonable doubt?
There was no actual murder scheme to know. What the informant told him was false, a completely fabricated story. So while the defendant may well have believed there was a murder scheme, may have intended a murder scheme, he had no knowledge of one.
So if I dig up a copy of "The Anarchist's Cookbook" and use the information in it to commit a crime, they can go back and arrest the Author?
The author has no knowledge of your crime.
Naive question. This doesn't fall under entrapment?
The informant offered money for a legal service. Only after the service had begun, did the informant start revealing information about potentially illegal use of the training.
"upon his arrival, explained to Arthur that "[the] ATF's been to my house…. [T]hey're probably coming back…. [W]hen they do, I want to be ready.""
This seems different than if he had advertised a course in violently resisting ATF searches.
Heh. "Tackleberry Solutions." Must be an 80's kid.