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Emory University Senate Open Expression Committee Opinion on "Termination of Professor Due to Charlie Kirk-Related Speech"
From the opinion released Oct. 21, 2025:
In the wake of the assassination of Charlie Kirk, an Emory professor posted certain comments about the assassination on social media—first writing "Good riddance," and then writing that they "[didn't] feel bad" about the assassination and that Kirk "seem[ed] like a disgusting individual." The Emory administration, characterizing these comments as celebrating and inciting violence, terminated the professor.
The Committee for Open Expression finds that most of the reasons given by Emory for the termination are inconsistent with Emory's Open Expression Policy (Policy 8.14).
- Inconsistency with Emory's values cannot itself be a reason for termination.
- People's mere distress that an Emory professor can make such statements cannot itself be a reason for termination.
- The Open Expression Policy cannot justify bowing to outsiders' efforts to put pressure on Emory to fire the professor by making threats to other members of the Emory Community.
- Patients' and parents'/students' distrust cannot justify termination when it is not based on actual patient care or the content of teaching.
- Violation of Emory's Social Media Guidelines cannot be the basis for termination, because these guidelines do not present themselves as being mandatory; and if they did, a termination cannot be based on the failure to provide a disclaimer in a context like this one, where a disclaimer would serve no useful purpose.
- The relevant unit of the University seems to have not considered Open Expression rights during the disciplinary process, which violates the Policy's requirement that Open Expression rights be given substantial consideration before any discipline occurs.
The only potentially valid reason is the professor's initial denial of having made the first of the two statements; but this seems unlikely to have been a deliberate lie, and so it seems unlikely to have violated the policy mandating cooperation with investigations. The Committee therefore concludes that the professor's termination violated the Open Expression Policy….
For more details, see the whole opinion. Note that our own Sasha Volokh (who of course is a law professor at Emory) is the Chair of the Open Expression Committee.
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first writing "Good riddance," and then writing that they "[didn't] feel bad" about the assassination and that Kirk "seem[ed] like a disgusting individual." The Emory administration, characterizing these comments as celebrating and inciting violence, terminated the professor.
This is the world you built, some of the dear readers. And you are shocked. Shocked! that it's being turned against you.
When "harrassment" as censorship of political tweets arguments started taking it on the chin, you theory shifted to "dangerous" speech. You hacks wanted the cachet of incitement to imminent lawlessness, but of course bloatedly applied to tweets of political opponents.
And here we are! They play your game now!
This is your world, the world you motivated hacks built. Have I said thanks?
Yeah I had quite a few laughs with the recent narrative that the speech censorship and cancel culture infrastructure has been built up entirely within the last few months after Trump was reelected.
Patients' and parents'/students' distrust cannot justify termination when it is not based on actual patient care or the content of teaching.
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Maybe I'm just being weird here but I sure as f&** wouldn't want a doctor or surgeon treating me who thought it would be just peachy to kill me based on my political beliefs.
To be fair, did he actually say he would be happy to kill someone in person, or just that he would be happy for someone else to get their hands dirty?
While you're right to criticize AmosArch's characterization of the case, I'm not sure that it makes that much difference to his point. "Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest" is morally not that much different from doing the priest in yourself. Transporting that into a medical scenario, does it really matter whether it's the surgeon who "accidentally" nicks an artery of someone he disapproves of or the scrub nurse who does it to curry the doctor's favor?
OK, so change it to "...it would be just peachy for someone else to kill me...". Would you feel comfortable having that surgeon operate on you?
Guys ... /sarc
C'mon!
"opinion"!
Like a court issued it! At best its a "position paper" or "memorandum".
Only law faculty or law student here is your brother. Two reps from the medical school though, always look to doctors for legal opinions..
Yeah, I didn't see any attempt to deal with "so what?" in the post or the opinion, but did find a quote from Sasha in this article:
From the last sentence, it sounds like Emory may actually be working to institute some minimal expectations of civility and professionalism for its faculty. Seems not terrible.
Also fairly interesting that 3 of the 4 staff representatives "abstained"* compared to the lockstep "aye" votes of the faculty and student reps. Seems like a rather sharp division between the salt of the earth and the academic/idealistic.
* A bit curious that the gatekeepers of the Open Expression Policy seem to have an issue with folks within their ranks openly expressing dissent.
Members of the Committee for Open Expression are allowed to dissent, and Emory's Open Expression Policy anticipates that they might dissent in any given case. Not sure why you inferred — from the fact that some members abstained — that they were prohibited from dissenting. Members of Congress sometimes abstain too (could be on the merits, could be because they just happened to be absent), even though they're allowed to vote no.
Seems reasonable. I assume anyone accusing Emory’s Open Expression Committee of liberal hypocrisy has extensive experience with prior Open Expression Committee rulings, would love to hear their insights.
Presumably Prof. Volokh the Younger has correctly interpreted his own university's free-expression policy.
I wonder, based on comments above, whether the Open Expression Policy, or its interpretation by Prof. Volokh the Younger and his colleagues, are actually binding at Emory.
The real question is, suppose a professor were to say the same things about the assassination of Martin Luther King, or the Charleston church shooting, and were fired for it, would the committee come to the same conclusion? I don't know what it would do, but it's a crucial question.
Milhouse — The point of expressive freedom is not to disparage any notion of moral difference in speech content. The point is merely to deny governments a power to decide which expressive content is worthy of Constitutional protection, and which expressive content is unworthy. To do that ought always to be off limits for governments.
Others not subject to constraints which apply to governments should be allowed to come to their own conclusions about the comparative moral quality of different utterances. For instance, crazy people might suggest a moral equivalence between the utterances of Martin Luther King, and the utterances of Charlie Kirk. Thus, a notion that someone can justly be fired from a private university faculty for not acting like a crazy person seems incoherent.
Please understand that I am not trying to say that reasoning applies in the case under discussion here. Only that it applies to your reasoning about the case.
Nobody disputes that private parties can place a greater or lesser value on particular speech. I don't see where that is relevant.
However, the true test of a commitment to free speech is tolerating speech that you don't like. So in the prior poster's example, if the committee would say it is okay to fire someone for celebrating the Charleston shooting but say it is NOT okay to fire someone for celebrating Charlie Kirk's death, then the committee is doing nothing but tolerating speech that it already has a tolerance for.
However, the true test of a commitment to free speech is tolerating speech that you don't like.
wvattorney13 — I hear that all the time, but always disagree. I was disagreeing above, in fact.
I would put it differently: The true test of a commitment to free speech is not permitting governments to do content-based speech censorship. That is as far as the toleration should go, lest the toleration itself become paradoxical. Criticism of speech you do not like is, after all, still speech worthy of protection.
Yes, of course the Emory Open Expression Policy would apply the same whether it were about Charlie Kirk or MLK (assuming the facts of the cases were otherwise comparable), and (though I don't speak for any members of the Committee other than myself) I trust the Emory Committee for Open Expression would come to the same conclusion in either case.
Interviewed for Enema Universities Med School just to humor my Mom (she did some of her Nursing and all of ejecting me out of her Uterus at the old Crawford Wong (Famous Chinese Anesthetist) Hospital)
They did take 1/2 of their students from Georgia, and you got to apply to 5 or 6 schools on your application although I only realistically had a chance at the Alabama Screw-els.
They did it "Love Connection" Style, interviewing 3 Applicants at once, and going back and forth, my 2 opponents were both from Duke, and every much the Creeps you can imagine an early 80's Duke Pre-med student to be (has it changed? except now they're all Asian)
Both of them had done all sorts of "Volunteer" work, humanitarian missions to Haiti, "Rape Crisis" Counselors (where they got their dates), and already recognized on several published papers in major medical Journals.
I'd played my Electric Guitar at an "Old Folks Home" Christmas Party....("Oh Holy Night" my Jimmy Hendrix version didn't go over well)
Anyway I didn't get in, got the obligatory "We regret to inform you....."
Until Late August, when miraculously, a spot had "become available"
Unfortunately by then, I had to regret to inform them I was "no longer available"
I wasn't, already put down a $100 deposit on my dorm room in Mobile (that was real money in 1984)
Frank