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USA Today: "Liberals owe Justice Barrett an apology"
What do conservatives owe Justice Barrett's supporters?
The USA Today published an essay titled "Liberals owe Justice Barrett an apology. She's clearly not in Trump's pocket." The subtitle is "Trump's most 'controversial' Supreme Court nominees – Barrett and Kavanaugh – are among the most independent of the conservative majority. Democrats would be better served by understanding that."
Here are some excerpts:
Barrett, who cast the surprise deciding vote against Trump, has been criticized by Democrats, yet she continues to rule independently of the conservative majority. In this case, her decision should dispel the myth that she is somehow beholden to Trump. . . .
As it turns out, she has proved to be one of the most willing of the court's conservatives to deviate from the supposed extreme MAGA court, particularly in matters related to Trump. . . .
Even beyond this, Barrett has repeatedly demonstrated she is not beholden to the man who appointed her to the court. She has frequently departed from the pack of the conservative majority to rule against Trump.
Democrats can criticize Barrett's form of jurisprudence all they want, but the attacks on her character during her nomination were way over the line.
Her decisions since then have proved a commitment to the law. . . .
Both of Trump's most "controversial" Supreme Court nominees ‒ Barrett and Kavanaugh ‒ are among the most independent of the conservative majority. Democrats would be better served by understanding that.
While Democrats are free to disagree with her jurisprudence, Justice Barrett is as favorable to the liberals on the court as Democrats could wish for. Democrats should regret how they treated her during her confirmation.
And it's not just Trump cases. Justice Barrett, and to a lesser extent Justice Kavanaugh, have ruled against Trump, and conservative positions more broadly, in contrast with Justices Thomas, Alito, and Gorsuch. I've made this point in more writings than I can recall.
In 2018, as the left was trying to destroy nominee Kavanaugh (now "Kavanaugh" is a verb akin to "Bork") I wondered if they really wanted someone else. Had Kavanaugh dropped out, Trump almost certainly would have nominated someone to Kavanaugh's right, who would have been confirmed far more easily.
With Justice Barrett's super-fast nomination, there was not nearly enough time to destroy her. Indeed, her scanty record probably made it harder to manufacture any sort of scandal. Yet the left savaged her as a Christian nationalist who would force all women to be handmaidens, or something like that. But again, I thought to myself, if it were not Barrett, it would be someone to Barrett's right. (It is true enough that a replacement could not have been confirmed before the election, but there was plenty of time between election day and January 3.)
With the benefit of hindsight, liberals absolutely owe an apology to Justice Barrett and Justice Kavanaugh. As I've said many times on the stump, liberals should be grateful Trump picked those two jurists. And if any members of Indian tribes ever spoke out against Justice Gorsuch, they too should apologize. And while we're on the topic, every Democrat who opposed John Roberts's nomination in 2005 should make a formal apology. Where's John Kerry?! George W. Bush's most enduring decision was almost an accident of history. Had Rehnquist held on a few more months, we very likely may have had a Chief Justice Alito.
Finally, if liberals owe Justice Barrett an apology, what do conservatives owe Justice Barrett's supporters? How do we respond to those boosters who assured conservatives that Justice Barrett was "solid"? Or those who told us she would become the next Justice Scalia? If President Trump was told that Justice Barrett would be a free-thinking independent who practiced restraint, would he still have picked her? Did any of Barrett's backers recognize that Ruth Marcus could call Barrett a "pleasant surprise"?
I, for one, am surprised by very little that the Trump appointees have done. And I hope those lessons are learned for all future vacancies at the Supreme Court, and on the courts of appeals.
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… with a link containing 0 uses of “Kavanaugh” as a verb.
Kavanaugh deserved the scrutiny he got. This was the man who formulated the gratuitous questions about a President's penis, etc. which were put to a terrified young woman in 1998. Yet he couldn't take the heat himself.
In fact he did take the "heat" of bogus claims and is now a Justice of the Supreme Court.
That's the stupidest thing I've seen all week. Congrats.
The week ain't over yet.
There's plenty of stupid left over.
That pearl clutching, shrinking violet of a terrified young woman who gave blowjobs in the oval office and let a man shove a cigar in her vagina.
Yeah, I am sure describing Clinton's penis was just too much for her. Poor, poor victimized girl.
Like everything else about him, Clinton's penis was crooked -- it was bent to the left. 🙂
On a serious note, there were rumors of Peyronie's Disease.
"If you didn't want to get raped, why did you wear such a short dress?"
Well there is this verb, although not what Blackman meant:
Kavanaugh
To get belligerently drunk, sexually assault someone and vehemently deny it all after the fact.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Kavanaugh
Did he do it on a bed of broken glass, too, while we're telling left-wing sexual fantasies?
she owes an apology to the white race for adopting a little porch monkey. 14:88
Not to go full Arthur Kirkland, but does it give the writers here any pause at all that this seems to happen kind of a lot?
It's a troll. What do you what the proprietors to do about it? (Other than ban the accounts — which they seem to do, but the trolls just create new ones.)
This particular species of troll seems to be disproportionately common on this site. I’m not suggesting that anything in particular be down about it-—I’m not even sure there is anything that can be done about it—so I’m really just genuinely asking if they do have any thoughts.
A few trolls with multiple accounts? Lots of the language sounds the same.
There is a provision to flag comments. Have you ever done so?
I'm not sure how they are handled but if enough people did so rather than muting it might have some effect.
For a chuckle, go to your comment history and search for "awaiting moderation." I have one from 5 years ago.
Here the silence from Clarence Thomas's bootlickers speaks loudly.
Frankly, this particular one (brand-new to my memory) feels like a Jussie-Smollett-worthy caricature. We'll see if it sticks around.
I guess this is a reference to Barrett adopting two kids from Haiti.
Dace Potas is an columnist with USA Today Opinion. He is also the President of Lone Conservative, the largest conservative student-publication in America.
https://www.usatoday.com/staff/12105439002/dace-potas/
Well, if this guy AND Blackman have an opinion about what liberals owe, it's gotta be legit!
And if any members of Indian tribes ever spoke out against Justice Gorsuch, they too should apologize.
Good outcome = don't speak against.
I guess this explains why Blackman gets the law wrong all the time - his legal theory appears to be more transactional than anything else.
“Appears to be”? He’s pretty much explicitly admitted it!
I don’t think it’s transactional. I think he has a consistent long-term approach. His legal theory is, i.e. exists, to get himself a better job and more fame in conservative circles by writing what they want to hear about legal issues. He’s done that consistently, and over a long term.
Is that distinguishable from... oh, I don't know, actually believing it himself?
"...writing what they want to hear" may indicate belief in something about himself, but that seems easily distinguishable from what you're thinking of.
Dace Potas...a real name? Or an obscure non-canon Star Wars character?
Ah, young padawan Dace Potas, so you purport to lead the largest conservative student publication in America? Perhaps that depends on how you define "largest," "lead," and "publication." I suppose that's similar to the young Professor Blackman's idiosyncratic definitions of words like "conservative," "influence," and "fact" when describing the purported influence of of his own blogging efforts and something he calls the Harlan Institute.
Worst Stars Wars prequel ever.
Off topic but open thread is almost dead;
RIP
Actor, writer director David Lynch at age 78.
Also, Mr Baseball Bob Uecker at age 90.
RIP to both of 'em. Many more contributions to our society than Josh B. can even fantasize and wank about.
Remember when Blackman apologized to Ginsburg because conservatives called her a communist, Russian/Chinese/Israeli asset, Soros puppet, Marxist, kike, Jewish supremacist, and bitch? Neither do I. And she voted with the conservatives far more frequently than Barrett has gone with the liberals.
Well to be fair she served longer than Barrett has.
Communist, maybe not, but she certainly was an arrogant, leftist blowhard with no conception of a judge's job.
"conservatives called her a communist, Russian/Chinese/Israeli asset, Soros puppet, Marxist, kike, Jewish supremacist, and bitch"
You forgot baby killer!
Seriously, name one semi-prominent conservative who actually called her any of those things. No nutpicking.
Rush Limbaugh, David Duke, and Ed Whelan off the top of my head.
Ginsburg was confirmed 96-3, Barrett was confirmed 52-48.
Tell me that Ginsburg was treated worse by the other side...
There are two separate issues here, general social conservativism and being especially favorable to Mr. Trump.
Republicans at this point see a huge difference between the two. Although Liz Cheney was on the conservative side of the Repunlican party by standards of only a decade or so ago, she might as well be a ccommunist so far as Republicans or concerned.
But for many Democrats, it’s still impossible to see any difference between her and Trump. Trump is a mysogynist. Cheney’s positions on abortion make her a mysogonist. There’s no difference between the two. They both might as well be Nazis as far as many Democrats are concerned.
I think the same is true of Kavanaugh and Cheney. They are both simply off of many Democrat’s radar screen, to the right of the part of the ideological spectrum many Democrats see as potentially speakable. They thus simply can’t differentiate them from Trump. Indeed, whether or not one is in Trump’s pocket may make no difference to them. They are simply two sects of fascism, indistinguishable so far as what’s important is concerned.
My issue isn't Barrett's supposed disloyalty to Trump. It's the fact that I don't believe she's a conservative. If she was, she'd be summarily reversing many of the blue state gun laws, for example.
it's SuperJustice!
Would she bother waiting for a cert petition? Or just show up in the state capitals with a magic wand?
You're an idiot. You know what I mean.
We don’t know what you mean, because you didn’t tell us. If there’s a specific cases or cases where you think Barrett has shown she’s not a conservative, go ahead and make your pitch. Just vaguely gesturing towards “not striking down enough gun laws” isn’t really very informative for people who can’t read your mind.
Look at the Maryland AWB case they denied cert on.
The one that’s scheduled for the conference list tomorrow? What exactly would a true conservative do differently?
You mean not summarily striking down enough gun laws.
I have to respectfully disagree with you here ... and then ask "what the heck are you smoking, and can I have some?"
I disagree with Ms. Cheney on abortion policy, and simultaneously respect her for not getting on her knees to kiss Trump's ... ring, like most of the craven GOP. Saying there's "no difference between the two" is not a realistic take on things.
I’m trying to explain someone else’s position, not giving my own. One has to go somewhat out on the left wing of the Democratic Party to see this position. But it’s there.
Democrats, who used to be the Populist Party, fail to see the distinction between populism and both neoconservatives and big business conservationism.
Cheney is a good example of the latter -- she was a war hawk in the State Department during Bush 43.
But what about Trump, you ask.
Well, Franklin Delano Roosevelt came from money. "His parents, who were sixth cousins, came from wealthy, established New York families—the Roosevelts, the Aspinwalls and the Delanos, respectively—and resided at Springwood, a large estate south of Hyde Park's historic center."
Trump is another Roosevelt.
The Supreme Court should have put a stop to this nonsense. It didn't because two justices wanted to stay above the fray. This proceeding makes a kangaroo court look good. That Trump's rights were/are impacted by this trial is an abomination.
What is this in reference to?
From context, it's obviously SCOTUS's decision not to grant a stay to Trump of the NY sentencing proceeding.
They can't all be another Antonin Scalia, but Barrett was clearly an error. That much was apparent during her confirmation and over the top comments about the death of George Floyd and racism in America.
I think a substantion portion of Trump’s supporters - not all of them but a substantial proportion of those who voted for him, and a more-than-substantial portion of those advising him on selecting judicial nominees - simply wanted someone willing to overturn Roe. And that they certainly got.
I have fond memories of Barrett and Kavanaugh voting to retain Roe, and deciding against Trump in the immunity case...
"Had Rehnquist held on a few more months, we very likely may have had a Chief Justice Alito."
I assume you're saying that Roberts's confirmation as an Associate Justice would have precluded GWB from nominating him for Chief Justice shortly thereafter. But I really don't see why. He was pretty close to confirmation when Rehnquist did die.
Yes. Roberts was the logical choice. Alito surely is not.
Also kind of stupid considering that Alito was sn afterthought when the GOP Senate balked at Harriett Miers nomination. If Bush thoght so highly of Alito, he hardly would have been Miers backup.
But I will forgive Josh for the error, in 2005 he was in his early 20's, and wasn't even in law school yet.
Uh-huh.
I'm a liberal-leaning sort. I feel no need to apologize, realizing Barrett is not a total stereotype. She voted in the majority (most of the way) in the Trump immunity case. She voted to overturn Roe. She has supported the conservative position regularly.
Speaking for myself, I thought Barrett was a decent choice of the likely options when Kennedy retired. They went another way. Didn't go well in my view. Maybe that comment doesn't do Barrett any favors for conservatives but her votes still have been rather conservative. Her not being Alito doesn't change that.
My problem with Barrett's nomination was that I thought it was hypocritical given the blockage of Garland. But, Republicans had the raw power. So it goes. Also, I thought she was a tad Trump-friendly when nominated including one photo op in particular.
I was never as negative on her as some including the whole so-called weird religious beliefs. That was laid on a bit too thick.
Anthony Kennedy retired when he did in order to pave the way for Trump to nominate his former law clerk to succeed him. Amy Coney Bear It had then been on the bench for just a few months.
She is on the bench because Mitch McConnell played Calvinball with the Ginsburg vacancy vis-a-vis the earlier Scalia vacancy.
Barrett voted with the majority in Trump v. United States, the most blatantly "Donnie can do no wrong" decision of them all, hiding behind a concurring opinion, when she didn't even "need" to vote Trump's way, an act, in my opinion, of pure judicial cowardice. Also, it's "interesting" that professor Black implicitly endorses the proposition that Kavanaugh, Alito, Thomas, and Gorsuch are in Trump's pocket. And Josh should know, because he's in there for sure.
How can we be sure? It’s not like we can actually see him. He never comes out.
I hear occasionally he xan be seen in the gallary at the Supreme Court, or in line, and he was at Judge Cannon's court arguing Jack Smith should be disqualified.
He's certainly trying to get into Trump's pocket but I doubt Trump knows of his existence.